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Considering the past, with the law of Moses , works were the way too justification. The meetings, the blood sacrifices, the crossing every tee, and doting the eye, would allow the soul to leave and feel the cleansing power of the act of sacrifice, experiencing the consecration of sin! Even so, with Abraham, with his own son, the ultimate Work of faith, an act that still emblazes all expectation! The very extreme of sacrifice! This Satan cannot stand!
The omniscience of God , He would reveal to the world, Abrahams heart. While giving Him a new way! With the evidence of these , It may be easier to comprehend the discussion that Christ had with the father before his incarnation. Why ,the Lord designed, a new and better way, the "new covenant". Removing the name of Christ will do nothing for you. Removing the Son will only cut you out, separating even your existence within His nature. Trying once again to justify yourselves , even as before, only this time you will eliminate yourselves completely. You have misplaced Him, even so He will be always before you, asking you to repent and be baptized! These are His words! Can you hear them? Be not deceived!
God is Spirit, HE can never die.
Christ was the first man CREATED, and Christ WAS GIVEN a BODY. That body can holds the PRESENCE of God.
Isaiah 63:9 In all their affliction, he was afflicted, and the angel of his (the Father's) presence SAVED THEM: in his love, and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old.
Christ emptied himself of God's (the Father's) glory and took on the BODY of SINFUL FLESH, to be (sinful flesh) DESTROYED.
Sinful flesh died on the cross not Spirit (God).
Into thy hands I commend my Spirit (there is ONLY ONE SPIRIT).
Three days later SPIRIT gave back LIFE to the BODY (the resurrected body Christ had from the BEGINNING.
This same BODY is promised to us by the SPIRIT'S work through Christ (dying as sinful flesh for us).
In two thousand fifteen God shut ever door. The land lay fallow till this year. God PUT ME IN a situation where I could DO NOTHING; and he CAUSED me to study his word. I literally had no running water, no air conditioning or heating, no bathroom. I had one chair, three light bulbs over the chair, a bed, fridge and microwave. When I awoke in the morning I would study until I went to bed that night. I literally wore out three bibles in six years. In February this year God opened the doors back again and I have the land planted in wheat. I WOULD NOT take anything for those six years and now I don't even care about physical things.
I have four children, three daughters and a son. The second daughter lives about four miles from my house. I don't have internet, and only a flip phone, so I go to her house to have access to this forum.
Thanks for your input, and you are so right regarding the need to put Pauls writings into context. Based on what we know Paul was instrumental in helping the early church's to evolve, and he was ferocious in his teachings. Paul did contribute a lot.
With me, the conflict arises when Paul's message conflicts with Jesus Christ, and his hand picked apostles. Paul may not mean to say conflicting things, they just seem to be interpreted in this way, by many. Maybe it has something to do with the way he speaks, and writes, the words he uses, or delivery of his message. We don't get these conflicting type of issues with Jesus Christ. Jesus message is true, as he speaks the words of God.
Striving to grow in Christ.
God Bless.
So, whatever happened in Moses' day, Jesus now says, "And I say unto you". And Jesus then tells them in verse 9, that any divorce & remarriage leads to adultery to one or both parties. Jesus does however tell them that divorce is permittable if fornication has taken place. Now this is where there are other opinions on the matter. It's my sense, that the fornication spoken of here, is when the wife had been sexually active prior to her marriage, & after her marriage, she has been found out. I figure that if a wife has been unfaithful in the marriage, then it would no longer be considered fornication, but adultery. Some may disagree with that view.
If we look at Matthew 1:18-20, Joseph found himself in a similar predicament. Mary was found with child when she was espoused (engaged) to Joseph. Joseph of course, thought the worst of her & was minded to terminate that engagement. But as you know, the angel of the Lord appeared to him to assure him that this babe in Mary was from the Holy Spirit. If this was any other relationship & pregnancy, Joseph would have been justified to divorce her (even in the engagement period) & still be free to marry another. So, I don't know whether this answers your question, but you may get other viewpoints to consider.
Then it hit me. The Holy Spirit was singing it.
I get in the closet under the clothes :D
It's one of my fav songs: "I Walk The Line" by Johnny Cash. First I'm thinking I missed it, made a mistake?
He starts singing and so do I. He was singing to me! I love him so much my heart feels about to erupt. You'd think he'd prefer Handells Messiah, but He knows what we are on the inside. I always wonder if I gross Him outbut He sings a country tune with me. Happy tears!
14 And God said, Let there be LIGHTS in the firmament of the HEAVEN to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the STARS also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
No offense, but your claims are hollow. God made all provision for mankind. Read Proverbs 8:21-36
The Bible, the ENTIRE BIBLE; is about a person: JESUS CHRIST. From Genesis to Revelation.
> IF HE HAD WANTED TO INCLUDE A CHAPTER explaining: space, what's under the oceans, land masses, and all that scientific jazz__no scientists, archaeologists, geologists, Vulcanologists, meteorologists etc would've been able to be BORN AGAIN. Science was to teach them SOMEONE MADE ALL OF THIS!!! Romans chapter 1.
In saying what you did, as Romans 1 says: You are without excuse. You've kicked the GODHEAD to the proverbial Curb.
Genesis 1:1
The Father purposes
The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)
The Spirit (Holy Spirit) Action. executes the spoken word.
You can't imagine anyone greater than you are. Worshipping stars and planets carries a death sentence. I used to be one of those people. And then Jesus appeared to me in a vision. I saw Him.
2 Timothy 3:5. I was teaching something that had no power. He's the only one who can save you from the darkness just out of our range of sight. You haven't a clue what you are missing out on: Knowing personally the Person who made all of this. Knowing his mind, his heart, his voice in your spirit. Telling you that you are LOVED.
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But if you believe that Jesus was a created Son of God & never part of the Godhead, then you would be correct.
The examples given are to a stranger & strange woman (i.e. an harlot, though some versions render this as 'stranger', as well). So, to make it easier to read, we could liberally transliterate it as follows: If a person is lacking good sense to be a guarantor to one whom he doesn't know, then take what you can from him (i.e. his garment), because of the great likelihood of the surety being lost to the stranger & the garment might be all that can be returned to him.
Similarly, the other part of the verse could be rendered: if the man who owes you monies or chattels is so morally lacking to be given over to an harlot, then take a surety (or, whatever you can get) from him, for his lifestyle will lead him into folly & penury.
Apologies for the lengthy transliteration; I think this rendering might help you understand this verse a little better.
"21 Thou shalt increase my greatness, and comfort me on every side.
22 I will also praise thee with the psaltery, even thy truth, O my God: unto thee will I sing with the harp, O thou Holy One of Israel.
23 My lips shall greatly rejoice when I sing unto thee; and my soul, which thou hast redeemed.
24 My tongue also shall talk of thy righteousness all the day long: for they are confounded, for they are brought unto shame, that seek my hurt." I must be faithful and true to plant the seed, and water it. The Lord, He will give the increase.
I praise your Holy Name. Let me not waver or be disheartened, For my Lord God King Jesus Christ is on the throne in Heaven and in my heart.
October 7, 2021. Thursday
So, if you want to see more about outer space or "the heavens" in the Bible, then T. Levis has given you many verses to work through.
Idumea is also a region, an area South-West of the Dead Sea. You may need to go on the Web & find an historical map of that region in biblical times, if you don't already have one. Some Bibles have maps enclosed - which is where I found this information.
In like manner, and of Jesus' position about Whom there is much contention & argument, God has never left His people without His Word & Witness. Whether of Israel or now of those coming in faith through the Cross, God's Word has always been clear & without interruption. As God sent out His Spirit to accomplish His Purposes in the World, so too God has sent out His Word for His people, Israel. But they despised that Word, disobeyed God & served idols. The Word they received was not "mixed with faith", even as those in Hebrews chapter 11 were commended for.
Therefore, in due time, God once again sent out His Word to His people that they might receive the message, that the Word now given flesh would be the very means for God to forgive & justify sinners through faith in Jesus, His Word. I say all this, to show that even in the giving of Jesus, God was present on Earth in His Son. And that was the great cost of our salvation, that God should lay down His Life for us, because of His Love for us - no other Sacrifice would have worked or been acceptable. And all we have to do is to have faith in that completed Work.
Therefore, both the Spirit & the Word of God (Jesus) are now & have been vital within the Godhead - without them, God wouldn't be.