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chapter 13 and 14 are (by design and foreknowledge) narratives of what has been happening in the US for many decades and what is about to come upon the luciferian cabul that released the pandemic, locked the nations down, silenced and handcuffed the church, and looted the nation through the manipulation of the crises they created.

In 2022 look for NUREMBERG like military tribunals.

And that president #45that all you mainline-denominational-world-aligned religious' leaders hate -

yes, that president #45, is the modern day CYRUS of ch 45 and he will be back in charge before 2024 to complete the draining of the swamp.

Let's remember that a true Christian marriage far surpasses physical/sexual desire. Your spouse should be beside you in all battles, spiritual and worldly. You can (and should) share that all-transcending comradeship and mental/spiritual unity with your spouse.

But you see, back even in these days, marriages were very superficial, and divorce was a popular notion. There is absolutely nothing in scripture thay forbids/disables us from developing that kind of love with our spouse. And we should.

If you compare the genealogy in Matthew 1 with that of Luke 3, you will find there are distinct differences. It is commonly supposed that Matthew presents the kingly line through Joseph, giving Jesus rightful claim to the throne of David. Luke's account goes all the way back to Adam including the particular phrase in verse 23 "(as was supposed) the son of Joseph". This would suggest Mary's genealogy.

A child in the womb does not actually share the blood of the mother. The wondrous placenta allows for the two way transfer of needed oxygen, nourishment, antibodies etc. from the mother while returning waste products from the child, all without co-mingling of their actual blood.

Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ,

I hope all are healthy. I am interested in serving others and doing God's will on this blessed Sabbath Day!



So I will continue to address the current popular christian belief of Faith/Grace and Nothing else. I will share some scripture below that affirms that Jesus will judge us according to our works.

Revelation 2:23

"And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works."

Revelation 22:12

"And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be."

James 2:19-24

19Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. 24Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

God gives us the choice to believe and accept this scripture and act on it, or ignore it. It is our choice. It's might be easy to fool ourselves, but we can't fool God!

God Bless.

Where should I start reading the bible from.?Trying to get a better understanding.

Rapture ? If your relating to the blonde song in the 80's , yes awesome tune , but rapture in the biblical sense , is non existent,. Ezekiel chapter 13 ,.. just like Apple ,.. that too is non existent in the biblical sense , an oh , Easter ? Yup that too is non existent in the biblical sense,.. yes it's there I know acts ,.. but use your strongs concordance, the word is pascal, meaning passova, there's reading,.. then there's reading an comprehension,.. I mean no harm,.. but a good King James Bible, an a dr strongs concordance,.. will go along way,..

Who are the Elect the Chosen ? they are spirits the H.G is the Child of Promise . When Jesus mentioned the Babes and sucklings thats his Children that are gona be born in us via his seed the words of that book etc and they are Spirits that are gonna be born in us via his seed etc. Thats y John is saying in Jn 1 : 13 They are not born of flesh or blood or the will of any man but only by the will of God ( the seed of the sower etc ) which is the H.G. the Child of Promise . Whom shall he teach knowledge , whom shall he teach doctrine them that are weaned from the breasts and them that are drawn from the breasts which are baby Christ ,Thats y Jesus said outta of the mouths of babes and sucklings thou has perfected Praise simply b/c they baby Gods. Rememerber God swore by his very self when he made that Promise of Christ being multiplied as the stars of heaven. And Jesus says to whom the word came ( his seed ) it made them Gods plural as the stars of heaven And its these that are the Elect the Chosen ones . The seed of Christ the Israel of God. And that y the new birth is so important via the seed of Christ . Being bornagain of an incorruptible seed etc thus we become a joint heir with the H.G. ( THE BRIDE THE CHURCH ETC ). Whom shall he teach doctrine whom shall he make understand knowledge them that are drawn from the breasts , the babes and sucklings that are gonna be born in us via his seed. He don't refer to himself as the bridegroom for nothin he has a seed to sow in humanity. thus the babes and sucklings. our new inner man, the H.G. Gods Gransons,( Jesus is the FATHER ) the Israel of God. The Children of Promise . Whosoever receiveth one such child in my Name receiveth ME. ( the Rapture ) Unless ya receive the KINGDOM OF GOD as a lil Child, you will in no wise enter there in. The Rapture

The elect's duty is explained in mark 13 vs 9 threw 20 ,.. it is from the elect, that Jesus was loving, an shortened the time , ( also in revelation chapter 9 vs 5 -11 )

Its only Christ that is his Elect his Chosen , Isaiah 42 : 1 Behold my servant ,my Elect in whom my soul delights he shall bring forth judgement to the Gentiles etc that Christ Jesus . Mankind needs to be bornagain just to be a joint heir with the H.G the Child of Promise. Jesus said behold i send the Promise of my Father upon you which was baptism of the H.G. A BIRTH OF Christ in us , That was the great Promise that Christ wd be multiplied in humanity according to his seed the words of the book of life that he wrote with is own blood. That Child of Promise is the regeneration of Christ in us via his seed the word thats y he he refers to the H.G as the Promise the H.G is the Granson a baby Christ that is spirit born in us sinners ( the Israel of God ) that is gonna be as the stars of Heaven . Remember Jacob was the GRANSON N THE Abrahamic TRINITY But Isaiah SPEAKS OF HEAVEN JACOB COMING IN THE LAST DAYS ISAIAH 49. Thus an ISRAEL OF GOD is coming Thats y God tells Moses that his name was Abraham Issac and Jacob simply b/c there is gona be an Israel of God. Remember Jesus said the good seed are the Children of the Kingdom. God wd not preordain satan ( mans adamic nature ) k lemme go

GOD is LOVE The world is trying to confuse this message with lies LOVE is what God say's it is not what the world say's.1Corithians 13:1 Love is patient,love is kind,It does not envy,it doe's not boast,it is not proud.It is not rude,it is not self seeking,it is not easily angered,it keeps no record of wrongs.Love does not delight in evil,but rejoices with the truth.

Hi Brother Dan.

quoting you: "Yes, we need to commit as Christians to walk with Christ and are instructed to in many various scripture throughout the bible." WHERE DID YOU GET THE IDEA I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT?

The portion you pulled out of my comment was the first sentence of part 2. You should have considered the 1st sentence of part 1 as well then we would be keeping the discussion in a direct orderly fashion.

Here is the opening sentence of part 1. Is our atonement forever or once Christ freed us it's up to us to Atone for ourselves? Here is part 2. Some would argue once Christ saved us it's up to us to remain saved. My question to that group is can you do that and How? The emphasis here is if Christ offered the perfect sacrifice "ONCE" and for all to atone for our sins, If one believes the atonement isn't once and for all and sins again "which we all do"

How do he re-atone himself when there is no more sacrifice? Can he offer Good works when works of the law could never cleans you. Brother Dan I posted a lot of Scripture that you seem to bypass, If those scriptures doesn't mean what I seem to believe why don't you start off with each one of them and tell us what they do mean.

you've posted 2 scriptures, I will deal with Revelation 22:12-14. first.

HERE IS THE WORK.

John 6:28-29. Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?

Jesus answered and said unto them, ( This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.)

When that's done then this happens. Philippians 1:6. Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ: And this. Philippians 2:13. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

NOW 1 JOHN 2:3-6. This is not the 10 commandments, If so consider Galatians 5:3-4. and if you are under the law you'll need the temple built to do vain sacrifices that could never save.

God bless.

Talking about the Chosen the Elect which is the H.G the Child of Promise , Which is gonna be born in us via the seed of Christ the words of that book the new covenant .We were ALL born by the will of some man its only the H.G that is born by the will of God which is that Child of Promise , Our new Innerman, OUR NEW HEART AND NEW SPIRIT, which is a baby Christ born in US . I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah NOT ACCORDING TO THE COVENANT I MADE WITH THEIR FATHERS . they shall no more teach every man and his neighbor know the LORD THEY SHALL ALL KNOW ME FROM THE LEAST TO THE GREATEST AND THEIR SINS AND INIQUITIES I WILL NO MORE REMEMBER. Romans 9 v 8 the Children of the flesh are not the Children of God ,Its the Children of Promise that are counted for the good seed which are Spirits as Jesus said that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit thats the H.G. the child of Promise , We are just a Joint heir with the H.G. THE REAL PROMISE CHILD THAT kINGDOM Child ,unless ya receive the kINGDOM as a lil child ( the H.G. ) you will in no wise enter there in.

We all know that Jesus was not born of man, but of the Holy Spirit.

We know that Joseph, the man who raised Him was from the line of Abraham.

1. Why is Mary's lineage not discussed when she actually shared her blood with Jesus. Joseph helped raise Him as His stepfather.

2. If we are all born into sin (male and female) then why was Marys' blood ok, but not Josephs'?

Hi , I believe that the 2nd represents us , Christians , the Jews being the firstborn . I believe that Saul represents the Mosaic laws given to the Jews and David represents Christianity as his sins were forgiven but Saul's weren't . I hope I've explained this enough for you , I don't like to go into too much detail because I don't want to influence you too much . I know that I much prefer to find things out for myself . These are just my thoughts , others may disagree .

Thanks Brother Chris.

Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

you would think that is all one need.

God Bless

please continue to keep myself and my daughters and there families in your prayers please remember my co workers and my church in your prayers

Hello Beth. Thank you for your good question. I'll share my understanding - others may share other things.

I liken the mention of the temple in these verses to the Temple that God ordained for His people, Israel. Just as anything entering that temple had to be washed, without spot & sanctified, so too God requires His Temple now (our bodies indwelt by the Holy Spirit) to be clean. If anything unclean entered the old temple, it had to removed & the place cleansed.

Our bodies (God's Temple), likewise needs to be kept clean, as holy vessels fit for His indwelling & His use. Yes, sin & temptations come to us, but His Presence in us alerts us & helps us deal with it through repentance & removal. But what happens if we refuse God's warning & let sins remain & fester, making what should be precious & holy into something vile & disgusting? Verse 17 tells us that "God will destroy him (i.e the body)". See 1 Corinthians 5:1-5 as an example.

There can be times when a believer veers so far off God's requirements for him, that God must take severe action. If a believer fails to heed the warning & conviction but pursues in some sin, then God will act. The sins are many & varied - any sins or behaviour that is permitted to control one's life, thereby quenching any pleas by God's Spirit & making excuse for the sin to be acceptable, will incur God's action.

Let us not tempt the Lord, rather we must seek to please Him in every area of our lives, keeping short accounts with Him. When we remain in the Word & prayer, Satan's thrusts against us will be thwarted & God's Name will be honoured in our lives & we will be used by Him.

Thank you brother S. Spencer for your very worthy comments & the Scriptures you cited. Indeed, our salvation is all of Grace, only through His Blood, & we're kept secure till we see our Saviour; 1 Peter 1:5, "Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

Our obedience & faith-generating works are manifest by the indwelling, out-working Holy Spirit. Romans 8:1; Galatians 5:16, 25.

Hello Leonard. What you've shared & what that Baptist Church has declared, I believe is dependent on whose viewpoint is considered; that of God or of man. That is, both that Baptist Church & Adam's comments are correct.

If you consider 1 Peter 1:2, "Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ", we can clearly see that the Elect (i.e. God's chosen) are in that blessed position because God has selected some according to His Foreknowledge. In other words, all whom God has foreordained to be His elect, will be saved. Now this is in God's department, so to speak, & not ours.

We cannot concern ourselves with what God knows, as sinful man must be in a position to hear the Gospel, be convicted of sin, & respond. So, the one who does hear & believe, can be assumed to be part of the "elect according to God's Foreknowledge". That is, God knows beforehand who will respond to the call. Those who reject the Gospel are outside of grace & can never be saved. Our "choice in the matter" is still a conscious decision we make, but made in concert with the Holy Spirit's working. Without the Gospel & without the Holy Spirit = no salvation. Many try to come another way; they're imposters.

In hyper-calvinism, God's election is taken to an extreme; where it even becomes unnecessary to share the Gospel, as God's choosing requires no response from man. Does that Church evangelize? If it does, then it's clear that they expect the sorrowful sinner to repent, believe, & be saved. The sinner's 'choice' is already in God's Plan to save him. We could ask the opposite question: can a sorrowful sinner be rejected by God because he is not foreordained to be saved? John 6:37, "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out." There's God's Promise of election & receiving a penitent sinner.

Only the elect , can blasphemy against the holy sprit ,.. an one must know when an how that is possible

Test the spirits to serif they be of God . Be a doer not a hearer only . 1 John ch 4 v1

Do you know how to test the spirits ? Does not sound like it .

Hello, if we have no free will, what is the purpose of evangelism? If we have no free will what is the purpose of the gospel? If we have no free will, what is the purpose of following Jesus? Did you have freewill to write your question or did something force you to? Did it force you onto this website and are you a prisoner? When you brush your teeth is a force making you do that?

That's an interesting concept that we have no freewill, but it just seems to fall apart quickly with pure logic. Adam and Eve were given an choice and disobeyed God and received a punishment. Today we are given choices of whether to do good or evil and then are judged after this life according to what we have done. Romans 2:6. If there was no free will, why would anyone be judged?

I believe a movement in our society is against Christianity and they like to claim that we're only clumps of cells and that morality is only relative and that we have no choice when we do wrong. It just seems like a lazy way to rationalize committing sin and defying God. The word says to fear God who can send you to hell. Matthew 10:28. Obviously, if there was zero free will or choice then we wouldn't be continually warned to obey, avoid sin, follow Jesus. No freewill would mean everything is a charade and is meaningless. Obviously that idea is a lie and we do have freewill. I choose to respond vs not respond to this question out of my own freewill and hope to help others and help spread truth to replace lies. God bless...

This page might have more related verses.

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Hello my dear . I myself have heard God speaking to me a few times in my life . I'd love to know what he's saying to you . Is he just randomly speaking or is he talking to you when your in trouble ? I only have heard him when I've been in trouble . I've been in trouble so many times .He usually says something short and to the point , like , It's going to be okay . Or just put one foot in front of the other . I heard his voice a mans voice like in the back or side of my head I'm sorry I don't have a website or someone specific other than God himself to help you . Have you asked him if he is God who is speaking to you ? That might be a good start . I hope you find the truth you are looking for .

Beautiful Psalm. So inspiring.

The concept of "blasphemy against the Spirit" is mentioned in Mark 3:22-30 and Matthew 12:22-32. Jesus has just performed a miracle. A demon-possessed man was brought to Jesus, and the Lord cast the demon out, healing the man of blindness and muteness. The eyewitnesses to this exorcism began to wonder if Jesus was indeed the Messiah they had been waiting for. A group of Pharisees, hearing the talk of the Messiah, quickly quashed any budding faith in the crowd: "It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons," they said ( Matthew 12:24).

Jesus rebuts the Pharisees with some logical arguments for why He is not casting out demons in the power of Satan ( Matthew 12:25-29). Then He speaks of the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit: "I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come" (verses 31-32).

The unpardonable/unforgivable sin or "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit" is mentioned in Mark 3:22-30 and Matthew 12:22-32. Jesus said, Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter ( Mark 3:28), but then He gives one exception: "Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin (verse 29)".

COMMENT: we need to be wary when accusing others of being false prophets, pastors of fleecing sheep, etc. There's a process of 2-3 witnesses, church leadership, that must be observed. LET US not be stained with hastiness. Keep it legal.

Jesus still heals people. He has healed me.

Mishael

With real life tribulations like serious injury as our family experienced this past summer, it affected our abilities to do things that we would like to have done, like eating together as a family at one table. There were many things that are right and good that we could not do. There might have been noticeable gloominess even, but even in this place of second choice, the whole family carried on with Peace in our hearts. Likely noticed by neighbors particularly of the grace upon the one who was injured. Peace is not works, it is a gift from above while living in the flesh by faith.

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My friend's Baptist church teaches that God chooses our eternal destination (Calvinism) and that we do not have any choice in that matter. I have always believed that although God's Holy Spirit draws us to himself, that we have free will and must make a decision for Christ. Which is correct and how do you prove it in a discussion, including scripture verses to back it up?

How do I name all the things Jesus Christ has done for me ... I was saved when I was falling off the back of a 100 mph motorcycle when I prayed. I was saved when I was alone at night and almost Raped. I was saved when I almost drowned in the ocean. When my dog got off his leash and ran in the street this man jumped out of a bush and walked in the street stopping a fast moving car . My dog wouldve been killed for sure . I told him thank you . He never spoke just smiled and disappeared when I turned . I had many difficulties growing up and throughout my adult life . Every single time I prayed to Jesus Christ , he heard me out of his Holy temple and he saved me every single time . I don't go to church because I can't find a true and honest one . I read the Bible daily . I believe God has saved me and on many other occasions . He is real . If I could write my entire life down , you would surely believe he's real . Even on the day he brought his Angel to save my dog , I sinned that day too and he still loved me . If you could see the things I've seen throughout my life you would be convinced too . You don't need a church . You need a King James Bible and a sincere heart . This is what God is looking for . Not like these terrible pastors on television who are loud and hypocritical . Last thing that I've realized . Ask yourself , in all Popular Hollywood movies why do they always cuss saying Jesus or Jesus Christ ? Never ever using a cuss word to Buddha or Mohammed or Shiva or to disrespect any other Gods names ? This is because Jesus Christ is the one true God and when you die you will be held accountable ! Don't be fooled . I'm a nurse and I've seen a lot of people die . There is something on the other side because I've seen it . Let's not wait until we die to find out. . Ask Jesus Christ yourself when you are alone . If your heart is sincere he will start to show you things I've seen . I pray that everyone who reads this finds the truth . In Jesus Christ name Amen !

Thinking of Works, preparations in the flesh kingdom for a future Peaceful Kingdom are not necessary if we believe by faith the Peaceful Kingdom is at hand. The finished Work of Jesus Christ at Calvary which also binds Satan, allows the Kingdom of God to dwell in man. In this Kingdom we are His purpose for His value.

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