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"It is the spirit which quickens ; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit and they are life". John 6:63 KJV.

The verse you quoted says nothing about discontinuing the sabbath.

"If you hold back your foot on shabbat from pursuing your own interests on my holy day; if you call shabbat a delight, Adonai's holy day, worth honoring; then honor it by not doing your usual things or pursuing your interests or speaking about them. If you do, I will make you to ride on the heights of the land and feed you with the hermit of your ancestor Jacob, for the mouth of Adonai has spoken." Isaiah 58:13-14.

Jesus criticized the Jewish leaders for laying a burden to heavy to be born. Jesus criticized man made doctrine and tradition.

He sabbath is REST from pursuing money. It is rest from life stress. Make dinner for yourself. Have friends over. Discuss God. Listen to music, take a walk, visit someone who is sick. Help your neighbor. Do a good deed.

The sabbath is a GIFT!

Where do you get such gospel that santifcstion is a life long process? It does not exist in the bible. The bible says this.

John 17:17] Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

The apostle Peter talked about once we have known the truth and turn away from it there is no more sacrifice for sin.

2nd Peter 2:20] For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

[21] For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

[22] But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Obviously Peter was writing about people who were once santified. Acts chapter 5 Annians and Saphara two holy santified people who decided to do their own thing and obey a different voice, the voice of the devil as the man of God Peter knew who deceived them in not putting their share if the offerings as thry were supposed to.

Acts 5:3] But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?

[4] Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

[5] And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.

We became sanctified instantly the moment you accept Jesus Christ and his words from the Gospel of Christ.

Col 1:28] Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

If nobody is without sin then nobody is going to heaven. Jesus told people in John 5:14 "go and sin no more." The Bible says in 1st John 3:8 "he that commith sin is of the devil..." no such verse as you sin because you are of God or Jesus. The wages of sin is hell fire and brimstone Romans 6:23. It pays to sin, it pays to serve the devil, your wage or payment is called death and not life eternal. Sinless people after the cross as Christ came to wash away sin and not make a new type of sinner called Christian sinners.

The apostle Paul just like me is an ex-sinner saved by grace Romans 6:18. If nobody can be free from sin, Jesus died for nothing. The Bible makes it clear God does not hear the prayers uttered by sinners John 9:31.

Romans 6:16] Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

[17] But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

[18] Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

Romans 5:19] For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

[20] Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:

[21] That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

The apostle Paul was free from sin after he was saved, Peter, John, James, etc. All ex-sinners as they knew that sin is deceitful and only brings death. Why sin? Why walk in sickness, darkness, and death?

1st John 1:[6] If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness ((sin)), we lie, and do not the truth:

[7] But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

oops Jema, I meant to respond to your post to Ronald concerning whether we still live after our body dies.

As to your response to Chris, the Scriptures do say that Jesus was fully human, having a human body created for Him. But He differs from all other humans in that He is the divine Son of God who took onto Himself a full human nature including a body to be our perfect human representative and sacrifice for our salvation. He is God who took a human nature for us. The person of Christ is God the Son, not a human person that took on divinity, but a divine person who took on humanity.

Even the Pharisees were going to stone Him in John 10 for saying He was the Son of God. They charged that He was claiming to be God, which He was.

But I know that you do not believe this, and I understand that you do not wish to debate. I am not intending to do so.

Hello Jema,

I hope your day has gone well. It is morning here in Washington state.

When I read your post to Chris, I immediately though of Matthew 22:23 where Jesus said, "I am the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living."

To me, Jesus is saying that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are alive.

Also, refer to 1 Samuel, 2:6 in the song Hannah sang, "The Lord killeth, and maketh alive; he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up."

Notice the order, first death, then made alive. Of course this happens fully in the resurrection, but in considering what Jesus said that He who believes in me will never die. ( john 11:26)

And, one of my favorite verses: Romans 8:37-39

"Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him that loved us.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

This clearly says that death cannot separate us from God.

And Jesus said to His disciples, "Behold, I AM with you always, even to the end of the world." Matthew 28:20

And Paul encourages believers by reminding them that God said, "I will never leave You nor forsake you." Hebrews 13:5, Josh. 1:5

So, to me, always and never mean that we will always be alive, whether in this life now or after we die.

Therefore, I believe that when we die, our body dies, but we are still alive with God. Our bodies will be rejoined to our soul and spirit when we are resurrected and then we will be made complete (whole, perfected) for eternity.

Jesus wept over Jerusalem and said "Behold your house is left unto you desolate." The great privilege given to the Jews, to be priests to the world, was taken away and given to the gentile believers at the stoning of Stephen.

The geographical land of Israel has NO bearing upon the last days. WE believers are Israel. WE are scattered around the world. The Babylonian system wants to crush us. "Come out of her my people and be ye separate ". "Touch not the unclean thing and I will receive you."

The anti christ IS here and HAS BEEN here for hundreds of years. The antichrist was identified by many Protestant church fathers as the office of the Pope. The Catholic/Vatican/ Jesuit system. I am NOT calling Catholic people antichrist! I was born and raised Catholic.

Changes made by the pope:

1. The 10 commandments. Compare the Catholic 10 commandments to any Bible translation which is based upon the Textus Receptus. In English, that is the KJV.

2. The day of worship. God rested on the SEVENTH day and blessed it. NOT SUNDAY! The sabbath is Saturday.

3. The Gregorian calendar changed God's calendar. God's calendar is based on the moon, and the new year in the spring.

4. The daily clock. God said a new day begins at sunset. The pope said the new day begins at midnight.

"And he shall speak words against the most high and shall wear out the saints of the most high AND HE SHALL THINK TO CHANGE THE TIMES AND THE LAW:" emphasis mine. KJV Daniel 7:25.

The Wiseman were around to give gifts for the new king of the Jews Jesus. It is not important for salvation of what happened or became of them. The Wiseman gave Jesus gold, frankincense and mirth. Gifts for a king.

Ecc 8:4] Where the word of a king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What doest thou?

John 6:63] It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Jesus words are spirit and life, John 6:63 that is some power. Today, in Christ Jesus we are kings, we are a royal priesthood we can decree things.

1st Peter 2:9] But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

[10] Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

Rev 1:4] John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

[5] And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

[6] And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

That is some power as we are in Chrust kings and priests. The Wiseman were never spoken of again in the bible after Matthew 2.

Revelation 1:1

Revelation of JESUS Christ,which GOD gave unto Him,to shew unto His servants things which must shortly come to pass;

Three angels proclaim the righteous Judgment of GOD

Revelation 14:6-13 (Compare with Gen.18 -Three angels visited Abraham before destruction of Sodoma)

6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven,having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth,and to every nation,and kindred,and tongue,and people,

7 Saying with a loud voice,Fear GOD and give glory to Him;for the hour of His Judgment is come:and worship Him that made heaven, and earth,and the sea,and the fountains of waters.

8 And there followed another angel,saying,Babylon is fallen,is fallen, that great city,because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

9 And the third angel followed them,saying with a loud voice,If any man worship the Beast and His image,and receive his mark in his forehead,or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the WRATH of GOD,which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation;and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels,and in the presence of the Lamb:

Genesis 18:1-33&19:12-17&27-29

- First,the Lord appeared unto Abraham in the plains of Mamre:and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;And he lift up his eyes and looked,and,lo, three MEN stood by him:and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door,and bowed himself toward the ground,

- Soon after,Abraham offered the three MEN a delicious lunch,in fact a banquet,and stood by them under the tree,and they did eat.

- And they asked unto Abraham:Where is Sarah thy wife?I will certainly return unto thee according to the time of life;and,lo,Sarah thy wife shall have a son

- The Lord also said:Shall I hide from Abraham that thing which I do? they rose up from thence and looked toward Sodom:Abraham asked: Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?

I want to thank everybody for praying for Shelly Bailey and Chris Johns I pray that everybody's prayers will be answered and God bless you all

United veteran he served 26 years I think he said he had stomach cancer I told him there was two places when people die he said wherever soldiers go please pray for him I know Jesus Christ knows everything he knows how it went down thank you

The Bible says to come out from among them and not stay there in 2nd Cor 6:14-18 Many people always want to stay behind to see what happens. Just like Lot's wife, she was told not to turn around to see what happens to Sodom and Gomorrah and she became a pillar of salt. Just like watching a building burn down, many people want to see what happens. Just come out and be separate. People complain about their church and still keep going. Why? Because they were never taught to come out to separate. My parents are a fine example, complain about their church but they do not want to separate.

2nd Cor 6:[14] Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

[15] And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

[16] And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

[17] Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

[18] And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

2nd Cor 7:1] Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

Rev 18:4] And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

[5] For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

Jeremiah 5:26] For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as he that setteth snares; they set a trap, they catch men.

[27] As a cage is full of birds, so are their houses full of deceit: therefore they are become great, and waxen rich.

Jesus became our Sabbath as he became our rest as we now rest in his words which are spirit and life John 6:63. The Jews could not keep the Sabbath day they always polluted it. The moment you get out of bed you pollute the Sabbath. On the Sabbath day, nobody was to get out of their bed, do cooking, or leave their house. Sabbath day keepers every week pollute and break the Sabbath the moment they get out of bed. Jesus became our Sabbath as prophesied by Isaiah. When you celebrate the Sabbath it is of no avail as Jesus our forerunner is now that rest. The Sabbath day was a day of rest, when you are resting, you are not sinning. Sabbath day keepers today pervert the Sabbath the moment they get out of bed.

Exodus 31:14] Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

[15] Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

Isaiah 56:2] Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.

Isaiah 11:10] And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

Matthew 11:28] Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

[29] Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

[30] For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Hebrews 4:8] For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.

[9] There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

[10] For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

In these last days, it is nearly impossible to find a church of sound doctrine.

1.Every church believes that when a person dies, their soul continues.No. The Bible clearly teaches that the soul falls asleep until resurrection day. Spiritism, seances, praying to Mary, praying to dead relatives "watching over you" is all doctrine of devils.

2. The sabbath is SATURDAY!

3. Protestant churches are aligning with the pope. They are no longer protesting!

4. There are sneaky things brought into churches, like "spiritual reformation " which sounds great on the face of it, but is actually anti Christ.

Be careful to not be deceived. Question everything. Is it a doctrine of man?

The Decalogue is proof that nobody is without sin. It is Gods eternal law, unchanging like Him. All the universe must abide by these laws. It is the law of heaven.

Now, no human is able to keep the law. All wrong doing is sin. I am saved, but the old man of sin must be put to death daily. I thank Jesus for saving me. I strive to keep the law NOT to be saved but BECAUSE I am saved.

The mark of the beast (catholism-the system, not the people) is a MARK of authority. The beast says worship God on Sunday.

Sunday is a MARK of authority.

Worship God on the seventh day. Saturday. It's in the Decalogue.

Sanctification is a life long process. Once saved, always saved is lie. The old man of sin must die, daily.

ALL wrong doing is sin. Unfortunately, we are soldiers in a war until we draw our last breath.

The morning commute.

There are many scriptures regarding the light. God separated light from darkness in His wisdom. The Son shines his light on that which is his and gives it glory. The Christian is a reflection of His light always giving honor and glory back to God in Christ Jesus. The Christian cannot resist this light so that darkness cannot comprehend it. God is the father of lights and we are of this light if our refection is true. His light was revealed and reflected from the Cross if we believe.

Amen and thank you Ronald . I don't want to spend all my time on here defending myself and my beliefs , I get frustrated with myself because I can't put things as clearly as you do :) . Than you again .

Hi Jema,

The immortal soul has been taught for well over a thousand years, I am with you in the understanding our soul is not immortal. Scripture says we do not put on immortality until we are resurrected, 1 Cor. 15:53-54.

The belief that our soul is immortal comes from ancient Greek philosophy, developed by Greek philosophers, Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle, it is called Platonism, attaining the highest form of knowledge, 1 Cor. 1:19-22 rebuts this. Then with Augustine, this theology and others became standard for the Church in the fourth century. The meaning of death also went from sleep in the grave to the separation of the soul from the body. This supports the teaching that when we die we go to heaven or we go to hell, and eternity is with Jesus or eternal punishment in the lake of fire (hell).

Can we find Scripture to fit this theology? Yes, but we must start with the theology or doctrine and look and find Scripture to fit the theology or doctrine. We must do the opposite, with an open mind letting the Scriptures and the Holy Spirit give us the theology and doctrine. We are the body, not the head.

God bless,

RLW

Matt.2:14-16 "Out of Egypt"

"When he (Joseph) arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt:/And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son."

Here we have quote from Prophet Hosea, "When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt."

The three wise men arrived in Jerusalem looking for the king of the Jews. Rightly so, the sign that they had seen in the sky settled the matter of his kingship.

God had commanded Moses in the case of a king who may in future have anything to do with Egypt in these words,"forasmuch as the Lord hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way." (De.17:14-16) Now Hosea's prophesy informs of his Egyptian connection. How do we resolve the apparent discrepancy of the two passages?

Moses asked Pharaoh to release Israel from their bondage, "Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my firstborn." In calling Israel they were called in his Son, who is the firstborn of all creation. As Hosea says,"When Israel was a child, then I loved him." In the v.2 we see the rupture, "As they called them, so they went from them: they sacrificed unto Baalim, and burned incense to graven images." God rejected the kings of Israel and let the temple ransacked until not a stone remained. (2 Ki.21:13)

For Egypt connection we need look elsewhere. Matt.1:1 sets Jesus Christ as the son of Abraham. Here we see his deity established. After blessing Abraham he sends him away," And there was a famine in the land: and Abram went down into Egypt to sojourn there." (Ge.12:10) Now Hosea makes a distinction between Israel and Jesus on the basis of faith.

Isaac is the heir of promise and there was a famine in his time and God forbade him,"And said, Go not down into Egypt" (Ge.26:2). Hosea makes faith as the touchstone whereby 'Out of Egypt I called him" refers Jesus Christ, the son of Abraham.

Hello brother Spencer, The Church is visible and its members can live and practice all of it's doctrines presently with Jesus as the head of the Church. I agree with your chosen verses and any other verse in the Bible. Feel free to get more specific as the website allows on doctrines of Jesus's Church here on earth. What about the Holy Kiss-doctrine?

God bless conversation.

Matt.2:7-9 "Herod's travel plans"

"Then Herod, when he had privily called the wise men, enquired of them diligently what time the star appeared./And he sent them to Bethlehem, and said, Go and search diligently for the young child; and when ye have found him, bring me word again, that I may come and worship him also./When they had heard the king, they departed; "behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt

Herod was 'diligent' to enquire what time the star had appeared. He concealed his real intentions and so the wise men were put off. His travel plans however were merely part of his statecraft signifying nothing. He was a vassal king whose policies changed sharply according to shift in power play in Rome. Yet he is called Herod the Great by historians. It is thus we have had pomp and circumstance of moral lepers given titles which in the sight of God are filthy rags. Herod was a pagan and became a Jew. So his travel plans were continuously changed unlike the quiet lives of Abraham and his sons, who "By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise/ For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God."(He.11:9-10). His travel plan was such and prepared for him by God. For he is called the friend of God. "But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city."(11:16)

Joseph who stood in place of God as a father to babe Jesus was required to make his travel plans in haste. "behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt" For Joseph his plans were made in heaven before the worlds began." His safe return also was guaranteed for this reason.

please remember my daughter Jessica and her family in your prayers please remember me in your prayers

Adam and Eve were the only two created in God's image after that man became a mom and dad creation as we have the power to create, to know good and evil, etc.

Isaiah 41:22] Let them bring them forth, and shew us what shall happen: let them shew the former things, what they be, that we may consider them, and know the latter end of them; or declare us things for to come.

[23] Shew the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that ye are gods: yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be dismayed, and behold it together.

After the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ, we are to be the image of the Son of God for us to be in God's image once again.

Romans 8:29] For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

[30] Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

If I am conformed to the image of the Son of God I sure am not going to be conformed to the image of sin to the image of the devil as all sin is of the devil period 1st John 3:8. No such verse as we sin because we are of God or Jesus. Mankind thinks we are all made in God's image. False!!! Only those who come to his Son Jesus Christ and his words of spirit and life in John 6:63 can mankind be conformed to the image of God. 100% conditional love all the way. A free gift, with conditions. We have to walk in the spirit of the words and not in the spirit of the world. The things which are seen are only temporal, however, the things not seen are eternal. The rich man in hell didn't see that coming in Luke 16. A rich and powerful person in his day and he could not spend a dime of it in hell.

We are told to come out from among them churches, to be a separate people.

2nd Cor 6:14] Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

[15] And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

[16] And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

[17] Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

[18] And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

2nd Cor 7:[1] Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

Many people want to stay behind to see what happens. Just like a burning building, many people want to stay around and watch to see what happens. Lot's wife did the same thing, she wanted to see what was going to happen when she was instructed not to. Jesus told us the same thing as well.

Luke 17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.

32 Remember Lot's wife.

[33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

We have to come out from among these churches and look for fellowship with those in the light and not in darkness with sinners. People complain about their church like my parents for example, but they will not come out as the church has them bound in their sin. The synagogue of Satan which claim thry are Christians and are not. Come out

Hello David. Be rest assured I am praying for you, for your family, and specially your daughter Jessica. May our Lord give you all the grace needed to continue walking with Him through the valley. He is with you, always.

And David spake unto the LORD the words of this song in the day that the LORD had delivered him out of the hand of all his enemies, and out of the hand of Saul: And he said, The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; The God of my rock; in him will I trust: he is my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my high tower, and my refuge, my saviour; thou savest me from violence. I will call on the LORD, who is worthy to be praised: so shall I be saved from mine enemies.

( 2Sa 22:1-4)

You're right. It's "order out of chaos". The powers that be are behind this mess.

Anyway, Jesus wept over Jerusalem and said "your house is left unto you desolate". The Israelites failed in their duty to be priests to the world. In ad 70, the job was transferred to gentiles. Spiritual Israelyou and meall who believe. We are scattered throughout the world, and waiting to be gathered.

Israel has historical real estate. But, God is no longer there.

Perfect People Part 2

Luke 6:40] The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.

John 17:23] I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

After:

Acts 3:16] And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.

Romans 12:2] And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

1st Cor 2:6] Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

1st Cor 1:10] Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

Philippians 3:15] Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

Col 1:28] Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

2nd Timothy 3:17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Hebrews 13:20] Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

[21] Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Amen, when the preacher behind the pulpit does not believe in perfection, neither will the church. The man of God has to be perfect, unlike what we hear today unbelief.

Perfect people in the bible, do they exist or is Jesus the only perfect one? We hear so much about how only Jesus is perfect from almost every Christian and yet, they can not find any scripture or any verse to back up their false claim. The apostle Paul said this:

Titus 1:16] They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

Christanity rebells when they have to be perfect thry immediately pass it on to Jesus when Jesus preached in Matthew 5:48 we (human beings) have to be perfect even as our Father which is in heaven is perfect. Why does Christanity argue agianst Jesus? Because they were never told the truth. Let's look in the bible to find more perfect people before, during and after, Jesus. Adam and Eve were in Genesis 1&2 before thry heard another gospel in Genesis 3 from Rev Serpant/Rev Devil.

Before: Genesis 6:9] These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

Genesis 17:1] And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

Deuteronomy 18:13] Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.

Job 1:1] There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.

2nd Chronicals 16:9] For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him. Herein thou hast done foolishly: therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars.

Psalm 37:37] Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace.

During Jesus:

Matthew 1:[19] Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily.

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