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I would like to attempt to refresh your question because it is All important.
To get a understanding of salvation we must recognize that we have come up short even when giving our best efforts.
We are sinners no matter who we attempt to compare ourselves with. And the wages of sin is death.
Romans 5:12. Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Romans 6:23. For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Hebrews 9:22. And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
OUR REDEMPTION.
Salvation is not getting away with sin "because we say we believe" Salvation is Christ to on the penalty of our sins and died for us, And those who truly has been regenerated was baptized into that death. and when Christ rose again they was baptized into his resurrection with newness of Everlasting life.
1 Corinthians 15:21-22. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
For as IN Adam all die, EVEN SO IN CHRIST SHALL ALL BE MADE ALIVE.
Now to attempt to answer your question.
We believe we are without hope apart from Christ, Christ took the penalty of our sins upon him and paid for them with his life. Then rose again the third day. We were IDENTIFIED/BAPTIZED into that death and resurrection by the Holyspirit. Romans 1:3-4.
Now fruit in our lives confirms our belief.
and we. If there is no fruit produced in our lives then our faith was in vain.
Because it's Christ spirit in you that performs.
Philippians 1:6. Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
Hopefully we can expand on this.
God bless.
In the "WORD OF GOD."
Jesus
Thank you Lord for your promises and your faithfulness to Your Word.
God bless everyone on this forum. August 20, 2021
God, the Father (Creator) demands that no man made attempt be made to depict Him visually. Although Isaiah's vision is obviously not a man made object, the Book of Revelation Ch 5 v6:7 appears to be differentiating visions of God The Father (seated)and God The Son (standing). This might make you think that Isaiah saw The Creator seated on His throne.
So I'm sitting on the fence, but I think the question is excellent.
:)
God bless.