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Heavenly Father, bless all of Augesteen's family needs. For Your honor and glory. In Jesus name. Amen

Heavenly Father, I ask for You to please answer Esandoval's request. Meet their needs, heal, and bless all the family. Thank You Jesus Christ. Amen

Hello Bmccaugh58. The answers to your questions are actually found throughout the Bible (from Genesis to Revelation), because the Bible essentially shows us how far mankind has fallen away from his Creator (because of sin), the repercussions we face from living in such a sinful state, & what God has done to offer correction & help, or else, judgement. So, one merely has to read through the Bible (even in your daily devotions/readings) & will see how people, yes all of us, have done wrong towards God & man & what subsequently entails from that. Some will learn & be corrected & then restored - others will persist in their evil ways & face God's Judgement.

So, here are some passages to start you off, but in your reading of the Bible, God's Spirit will alert you to what you seek or even where some action needs to be taken in your own life.

For "Consequences", see: Genesis 2:15-17; Genesis 3:16-19; Deuteronomy 28:1,2,15; 1 Kings 11:9-11; Job 4:8,9; Isaiah 59:2; Jeremiah 17:9,10; Matthew 27:3-5; Romans 6:23; Romans 13:4; Galatians 6:7,8; 1 Timothy 5:8; James 2:10; Revelation 20:12-15.

For "Correction", see: Proverbs 22:6; Proverbs 29:15; 2 Corinthians 5:10; Galatians 6:1; Ephesians 6:4; 2 Timothy 4:2; Hebrews 12:5-11; Revelation 3:19.

These are just a very few Scriptures, reminding us that there will always be consequences for our actions, not just in our dealings with each other, but more importantly, as we stand before God. But this God of Love always gives sinful wayward man an escape route, from a life of sin to a life of holiness & love - and His Name is Jesus.

You are going through a lot of changes right now , this is what happens when you start to move away from the world and draw closer to God . Everything changes , how you see the world and everyone and everything in it . It's an enormous emotional upheaval to move from darkness into light . I lost all of my girlfriend's in my late / mid 20's when I started to read the Bible and change my behaviour and way of thinking . In one way I'm very isolated now , not much interested in the things that my family and atheist friends are , but in other ways I'm so much better off than them . I'm free from the things that they worry about and are slaves to . I know the Truth which has cheered me up more than anything in this world ever could . I feel safe and loved like I never ever felt before I knew the Truth . I know that there is an awesome future for this planet and for me :) . Regarding your dad , you are going to have to learn to be tolerant of him . There are many kinds of idols , you must come into contact with them every day ! It's his home too you know . If you are finding it hard to cope with the changes in you , imagine how he is feeling . You are changing before his eyes and he doesn't understand how or why . You need to be very patient and kind towards him , how do you think Jesus would treat him ? Remember that God loves your dad as well as He loves you and your mum . My family are all atheists , I still love and care for them , God still loves and cares for them . If you push him away from you you cannot hope to ever help to bring him to the Truth . Jesus didn't push anyone away from him by making them feel bad about themselves , he drew people to him with love . God loves your dad and God gave your dad to you , to be your dad . Of all the people who could have been your dad , God wanted him to be your dad . Don't disrespect the gifts of God . Families are given to us by God for a reason . He chooses them for us before we are even born . Love is the key .

What does the Bible teach us about consequences or correction

I have prayed for you, that the Lord will cast out the demons that your dad has been following, that your dad will give up the idols he worships, and that you will gain strong roots in the Lord.

I also want to let you know that the reason you are going through so many battles right now is because you were pulled out of Satan's grasp, and now the devil hates you and will do anything to try and take you back from God. But stand firm, keep pushing, keep praying, don't give up the fight - God died for you because He loves you very much. The battle will be worth it! Trust me, I've been a Christian woman for a long time now, I've had many struggles myself, but I have learned that as long as I stay focused on God and do His will, that everything works out for His glory. So, I just want to encourage you (anyone else who reads this) to keep going, and you'll find your needs and prayers will be answered.

Amen Lee.

We have the best teacher in us that is the Spirit of truth! That is Christ spirit. "The Holyspirit"

as Peter said in 1 Peter 2:2 "As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

We study God's word and the Holyspirit makes it real to us!

Christ gifted his Church with teachers and Preachers and they will have the same Spirit as you that will guide you along with the word of God.

We test EVERYTHING with the light of scripture.

This teaching of his is worse than you think, He's not only saying the saved becomes God! He's saying ALL of humanity will be God's! No matter what you have done! There's No consequences for sin.

He's saying We are not saved from anything.

This suggests that what Christ did on the cross was a foolish act and unnecessary.

The love of God shown in John 3:16 was un caused for.

He's also is saying there is no punishment for unbelief.

Look at the following verses

John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

SAVED FROM WHAT, HE SAYS THERE IS NO HELL AND SATAN DON'T EXIST.

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: BUT HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT IS CONDEMNED ALREADY, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Ask him plainly, He'll tell you.

God bless.

Jordyn

Again

Here's a correction on Job 27:1 and Job 29:1 that you misquoted.

It doesn't read as you stated.

Your text for both verses;

( Moreover "God" continued his parable,...

Here's what's written;

Job 27:1 "Moreover "Job" continued his parable, and said,...

Jon 29:1 "Moreover "Job" continued his parable, and said...

You're fashioning scripture to say what you want it to say to hinder the truth.

Lee the Follower:

Do you believe that Satan works under the control of Christ? or

Does Satan have power of himself.

If you believe Satan is an instrument in God's hand, then why would you believe that Satan at times doesn't lie.

Satan is in every man, men lie sometimes, and other times they tell the truth; whichever, God through Satan, has predestinate.

Man will not believe that all his words were spoken before the foundation.

Psalms 90:9 For all our days are passed away in thy wrath, we spend our years as a TALE being TOLD.

Quite worrying about you might be deceived, because every man starts out that way, ( Revelation 12:9) and believed what God says.

Ephesians 1:4 According as HE hath CHOSEN us IN HIM before the foundation of the world .....

Hebrews 4:3 .... the WORKS were FINISHED from the foundation of the world ....

God has appointed some to believe and some not to believe; IN THIS AGE.

God is calling you, otherwise, you would not, have COME.

It's HIS WORKS, you have no say, it's his choice of when and how much you believe.

Every man has a purpose in God's scheme of salvation and coming to truth, and whether you like it or not, you WILL NOT vary outside his purpose for you.

Only ONE person was Chosen to be John the Baptist, all thought there are many that have the same spirit as John crying out in the wilderness to repent of their sin of unbelief.

This holds true for Judas, he say CHOSEN, and he did what he was chosen for.

This holds true for Satan, he is doing what he was chosen for.

God said when Christ has put ALL THINGS under his FEET, God WILL BE ALL in ALL.

Christ will not fail in what he was SENT TO DO.

God said he would set brother against brother, he has a purpose for this, all though we can't yet see it.

Brother S Spencer and I are both in God's plan, even though we seem to be brother against brother.

All things work TOGETHER for the good of those that LOVE the LORD.

God Bless YOU!

Galatians 6:7 ,14

7Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

14But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

17From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.

In God their is a way I abode and devils and demons summit and surrender to our Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Sa.24:1-4 "Wilderness of En-Gedi" (2 of 2)

Then Saul took three thousand chosen men out of all Israel, and went to seek David and his men upon the rocks of the wild goats.

Saul beginning well is now showing himself an imbecile. He chosen men cannot be wiser than he is while God in choosing Gideon's army required only those who would obey. In olden days when smallpox and polio stalked the land vaccination proved a cure and the world took it without a murmur. Why global anti-vaxx movement now, and where does it come from? Satan of course. For man who tweaks with truth to create contextual truth stones of division is a stone of stumbling to break the neck of fools.

Progress was for them the bottle imp and they cant get it back into its bottle. It is thus the world is at present all for conjuring up the Father of all lies.So we see the wicked becoming worse, deceiving and being deceived. How unreal is the Instagram look, nevertheless we see someone has given mentally fragile youth an underhand swipe.

1 Sa.24:1-4 "Wilderness of En-Gedi" (1 of 2)

"And it came to pass, when Saul was returned from following the Philistines, that it was told him, saying, Behold, David is in the wilderness of Engedi(v.1)".

'And David went up from thence, and dwelt in strong holds at Engedi.'(23:29)

En-gedi means 'kid's well which is a wilderness and must be like being led by the Lord in a wilderness which is the world. Psalm 23 celebrates the still waters ('He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters'-v.2. ) as against the sea which is restless throwing up mire and dirt.

For the love-bitten bride it is the intimacy so we have seen,"My beloved is unto me as a cluster of camphire in the vineyards of Engedi (The song.1:14)". Abiding in Jesus Christ the vine we abound in bearing fruits. The place suited David in his present predicament. There were caverns that sheltered him from Saul, which served him as 'strongholds.' Literally meant geography of the terrain suited him and his band. 'En-gedi was situated near to the western coast of theDead Sea, not far from Jeshimon'. In spiritual terms it is the pavilion where our heart has laid open a royal highway to God.

'In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.( John 14:2)' The word of God is eternal and has already gone out of his mouth meaning it is the will of God that His children shall be secure under His wings. Jesus laments for Jerusalem and rightly so since their disbelief denied what was eternally open for them.(Matt.23:30) Jesus Christ the same etc.,(He.13:8) means just that. When David asked of the Lord,"saying, Shall I go and smite these Philistines? And theLordsaid unto David, Go, and smite the Philistines, and save Keilah(23:2)". The will of God is clear. There were dotted lines which had to connected and it is how faith is followed by works. David trusting in the promise wins victory of the Philistines.

1 Sa.23:27-29 (2 of 2)

Here in the text God sets the Philistines to save David from being caught. The pandemic, heat domes, wildfires tornadoes and supply chain bottlenecks, economic downturns are God's way of scattering the smile off the face of superpowers whose words and actions do not match. Either nations gather with God or scatter all that they arrogantly reserved for themselves. The stone of divisions is a warning for them.

Selahammahlekoth means the rock of divisions and king Saul looking for David went in all direction about the wilderness but with no success. If God be for us who can be against us? The Spiritual rock which was Christ is a refuge for saints redeemed from the earth, whose strivings without God is vain. In the many heresies that plague the Christian world we have similarly rock of divisions which are as Prophet Jeremiah says,"They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace(Je.6:14)".

1 Sa.23:27-29 "Stone of divisions" (1 of 2)

"But there came a messenger unto Saul, saying, Haste thee, and come; for the Philistines have invaded the land./Wherefore Saul returned from pursuing after David, and went against the Philistines: therefore they called that place Selahammahlekoth.29And David went up from thence, and dwelt in strong holds at Engedi."

As we trace the career paths of King Saul and younger David we see the truth of Jesus' words,"He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad(Matt.12:30)".Saul in his rage and hatred would stand athwart God's will, and when failed would only add to his hatred towards his rival. Unclean spirits of envy, malice and vanity merely scattered whatever standing he had in God''s sight. He whined for safety of his kingdom "That all of you have conspired against me, and there is none that sheweth me that my son hath made a league with the son of Jesse, and there is none of you that is sorry for me, or sheweth unto me that my son hath stirred up my servant against me, to lie in wait, as at this day?(22:8)" That was his 'big lie' moment and it led to the slaughter of the priests. What does Saul who was anointed,- God gave him a new Spirit, become? Now he is King Saul the whiner.

King Saul hearing that David won a victory against the Philistians at Keilah,"And Saul called all the people together to war, to go down to Keilah, to besiege David and his men." He slipped out before he could and goes to Ziph. Before he could be betrayed he runs off to yet another,-wilderness of Maon; In v.26 he is surrounded so God steps in. "And Saul went on this side of the mountain, and David and his men on that side of the mountain: and David made haste to get away for fear of Saul; for Saul and his men compassed David and his men round about to take them."

I meant altogether like us.

1 Sa.Ch..20-22 "Conclusion" (2 of 2)

"And David said unto Ahimelech the priest, The king hath commanded me a business, and hath said unto me, Let no man know any thing of the business whereabout I send thee, and what I have commanded thee: and I have appointed my servants to such and such a place(21:1-2)". This would consequently cost the lives of 85 priests including that of Ahimelech.

When Jesus was brought before Pilate,"Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice( John 18:37)".

Jesus spoke truth since he being the truth he could not have denied anymore than his Father who as the verse says"he cannot deny himself(2 Ti.2:13b)".

David was 'a man after my heart' the Scripture bears testimony but he was forbidden to build a house for God."But the word of the LORD came to me, saying, Thou hast shed blood abundantly, and hast made great wars: thou shalt not build an house unto my name, because thou hast shed much blood upon the earth in my sight(1 Chr.22:8)". Needless blood of the priests also must be included therein.

1 Sa.Ch. 20-22 "conclusion" (1 of 2)

"But if I say thus unto the young man, Behold, the arrows are beyond thee; go thy way: for theLordhath sent thee away./And as touching the matter which thou and I have spoken of, behold, theLordbe between thee and me for ever."(20:22-23).

Covenant between soul of man and God is eternal as the Word is eternal. Jesus warns,"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell(Matt.10:28). To this St Paul refers in his epistle,"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.(2 Co.5:10)" This terror is all too real for man so his fear for death is understood but not all are alike. A soul is prudent since is animated by the breath of God and a fool cares little for what he cannot handle or see for himself. "A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself; but the simple pass on, and are punished(Pr.27:12)". .Jonathan well knew what David shall become. In their covenant we have Jonathan signifies the role of a soul David is a stand-in for Jesus Christ. For this reason the Spirit narrates their pact for our spiritual edification, and when Jonathan speaks, 'Behold, theLordbe between thee and me for ever' it is a cue for us to approach it in spiritual terms.

Young David had to grow spiritually since Samuel had anointed him his every move had to be in accordance with the will of God. We do not see him consulting him as he did in the case of the Philistines. In his flight from Saul while in Nob he went to Ahimelech, the priest. "And Ahimelech was afraid at the meeting of David, and said unto him, Why art thou alone, and no man with thee?" Ahimelech's fear was a gut-feeling which shows how we have apprehension and it is how our soul primes us up. David's reply was not true.

Thank you Pnovello.

Dear Honeycomb,

Welcome and glad to hear from you. You are made new in Christ and every day the Spirit is working in You to change you for the better.

I do not know why you are feeling as you are these past few days, but I will certainly pray for you. Keep us posted on how things are going because doing so reminds us to continue to pray for you.

Dear Heavenly Father, in the name of Jesus we come before you on behalf of Honeycomb. We seek from You comfort and peace for Honeycomb in this household. Help Honeycomb to remember that idols are nothing but inventions of men backed by the demonic realm. You are more powerful and sovereign that any of the evil ones and have all authority over them. Help Honeycomb to fall onto the mercy and grace You bring to all believers who aim to follow You in Spirit and in truth. Bless Honeycomb with an uplifted heart, a strengthened faith, a determination to follow only after You through Jesus, a sure assurance of Your love and compassion, along with the salvation received already, and a discernment in her mind and thoughts concerning what is true and of You and what is false and of the evil one. Deliver Honeycomb from the evil one and help her to stay separate from all that her father practices. protect Honeycomb from the actions of evil spirits that linger in the home as a result of her father's practices. Help Honeycomb and her mother resist evil in their home, set a witness of Christ before this father every day, and keep them prayerful for their family. Amen.

i Sa.23:1-4 "Adullam Caves" (2 of 2)

Finally a distinction between soul and the inner man may be relevant here. God made Adam a living soul which signifies the truth written in inward parts is alive:as a live wire and is ready to catch divine fire. When you hear the word of God it does something to you that you cannot miss it.(Ro.10:17).

Faith is what you follow up with works. Thus Abraham steps out of his comfort zone to a place God has promised to give. He believed therefore it was counted to him for righteousness. Soul of man is His presence which for saints who are led by him have Father's name in their foreheads which are different from man who is carnal. His heart is not entirely perfect before him. For those who have received Jesus Christ as their Savior has a helper, the indwelling Spirit.. When St Paul prays,'That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man(Ep.3:16)' it is of a different quality. So he warns,'And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption(Ep.4:30-32)'. Inner man of child of God has hope for the risen Christ promises,"To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receivethit(Re.2:17;Is.62:2)".

On the other hand soul of a wicked man is trash."The tongue of the just is as choice silver: the heart of the wicked is little worth(Pr.10:20)".

1 Sa.23:1-4 "Adullam Caves" (1 of 2)

"Then they told David, saying, Behold, the Philistines fight against Keilah, and they rob the threshingfloors./Therefore David enquired of theLord, saying, Shall I go and smite these Philistines? And theLordsaid unto David, Go, and smite the Philistines, and save Keilah./ And David's men said unto him, Behold, we be afraid here in Judah: how much more then if we come to Keilah against the armies of the Philistines?/Then David enquired of theLordyet again. And theLordanswered him and said, Arise, go down to Keilah; for I will deliver the Philistines into thine hand."(vv.1-4)

''Therefore David enquired of theLord,' While David was holed up in the cave of Adullam he heard the Philistines robbing Israel of their harvest. He enquired of the Lord what he ought to do. Had he enquired of the Lord before going to Ahimelech the priest in Nob it would have spared lot of bloodshed. He came a long way spiritually. From the stone Ezel to Adullam soul of man is creating its own back up system as bees store up honey in hives. This is what the Spirit wants us to know.

Earlier Jonathan brought him vital information while he was waiting for it. We shall refer the passage 20:18-22)."Then Jonathan said to David, To morrow is the new moon: and thou shalt be missed, because thy seat will be empty./And when thou hast stayed three days, then thou shalt go down quickly, and come to the place where thou didst hide thyself when the business was in hand, and shalt remain by the stone Ezel".

The message from Jonathan was clear 'The Lord hath sent thee away." David fleeing from Saul has found refuge in the cave of Adullam and the place traces the manner his soul being spiritually fortified. We covered the significance of the three arrows shot by Jonathan and while we are considering the role of the soul of man we shall mention the Psalm of David composed while he was Adullam,"Yea, in the shadow of thy wings will I make my refuge,..."

1 Sa.22:22-23 "I knew that day"

Secondly Doeg carrying the tale of David being sheltered by Ahimelech in Nob to King Saul is what man who shall resort in order to rise in career. It is what body is capable of doing.

Thirdly how David changed his behavior in front of Achish the king of Gath, whether it is reaction to lying or psychological condition is a matter left to the soul.

Thus body spirit and soul pose questions for man who would explain everything by approaching the word of God by literalism The Spirit employed the episode of Jonathan shooting arrows is clearly meant for a child of God for instruction. In all the three areas how Jesus handled we shall see in another post.

1 Sa.22:22-23 "I knew that day" (1 of 2)

"And David said unto Abiathar, I knew it that day, when Doeg the Edomite was there, that he would surely tell Saul: I have occasioned the death of all the persons of thy father's house./Abide thou with me, fear not: for he that seeketh my life seeketh thy life: but with me thou shalt be in safeguard."

David is here referring to a certain knowledge which is supplied by the soul and validated by the Holy Spirit. :And he who searches our heartsknows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedesfor God's people in accordance with the will of God(Ro.8:26-27-NIV). The Spirit shall do only in accordance with the will of God while soul signifies the presence of God in man. In the covenant confirmed by David and Jonathan we have the role of soul which for a child of God is in context of Jesus Christ Light of the knowledge is for the glory of God."For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ./But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us(2 Co.4:6-7)". Knowledge therefore has to be for the glory of God and it is in context of Jesus Christ. In the Holy Cuty of God the tabernacle ofGod is with man and Zion is its heart and it is stand-in for the soul of Christ the Head.

How soul works with a child of God we shall see in specific case of David who did not exactly tell the truth to Ahimelech, the priest while in Nob(21:1-2). How it led to the slaughter of 85 priests (22:18) no man may be able to explain anymore than the manner the doctrine of Balaam corrupted Israelites without ever speaking to them. It is between the Spirit and the soul. The spirit of man communicates with spirit of another.

1 Sa.20: 18-42 "Secret Place"

How soul relates to a child of God can be explained by this verse,"He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty(Ps.91:1). The spiritual space of heart has truth correspondingly as eternal word is settled in heavens for His creation. It is brought out by the Spirit in the manner Jonathan promises David to intimate what his father's real intentions are. In vv19-20 Jonathan has a confidante, a young lad with artillery to go between them. David was to come to the appointed place,"and come to the place where thou didst hide thyself when the business was in hand, and shalt remain by the stone Ezel./And I will shoot three arrows on the side thereof, as though I shot at a mark."

The manner Jonathan directed the lad was his cue."But if I say thus unto the young man, Behold, the arrows are beyond thee; go thy way: for theLordhath sent thee away./And as touching the matter which thou and I have spoken of, behold, theLordbe between thee and me for ever(vv.22-23). Significant is the usage of 'forever'. A believer who is led by the indwelling Spirit is the son of the Most High. 'He shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty' forever.

In our times when Evangelicals think of activism they mean they are positioned to judge those whose lifestyles are different. They are like the young lad ignorant of how soul can take care of child of God, without busybodies coming between. "But the lad knew not any thing: only Jonathan and David knew the matter./And Jonathan gave his artillery unto his lad, and said unto him, Go, carry them to the city(vv.39-40).

1 Sa.20:20-21 "A Covenant"

vv.14-17

"And Jonathan caused David to swear again, because he loved him: for he loved him as he loved his own soul(v.17).

The covenant that Jonathan and David enter into concerns two houses, of Jonathan and David respectively, soul of each being knit as one. The Spirit has set them signifying the role of the soul of man which is a presence establishing truth written in his inward parts. There is no excuse the rich fool in the Parable did nothing to be rich towards God. Now Jonathan has precognition as to the role David was to play. He is also aware that his father had lost it all.'And theLordbe with thee, as he hath been with my father'.

In the min-max narrative mode every covenant a believer makes with Jesus Christ and accepting him as the Savior Lord conforms to the covenant of God made with the Son.(Ps.2:7-8). As discussed in the post titled School of Prophets a prophet is appointed by God and when he spoke of judgment it was valid for specific as well as for the Final judgment. The reason is simple: the eternal word is settled in heaven.(Ps.119:89) and it applies specifically to Jesus Christ.For thetestimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.(Re.19:10-NKJV) " For this reason prophets from Abraham ('for he is a prophet'-Ge.20:7)to John ( Luke 16:16) are like series regardless of time and place takes us to the Day of the Lord. "He shall call to the heavens from above, and to the earth, that he may judge his people./Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice(Ps.50:4-5)".

Jonathan is a stand-in for soul to which David signifies the Son. In eternity the body of Christ the church has only one Law and,- Zion is the soul of New Jerusalem; and Psalm of Asaph sings,'Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, God hath shined(Ps.50:2; Is.2:3).

I Sa. 20:1-4 "Oh my soul!"

In the Parable of the Rich Fool he addresses his soul and it is his other self, sum total of his worth in a figurative sense . This soul is different from inner man. If soul is as true with a carnal man, so with a spiritual man. His soul is the presence and it is in this sense the Spirit has built up the relationship of David and Jonathan. First from the parable,"And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided? ( Luke 12:19-20)."With death who shall collect all that he stored? Not he that is for sure. He knew how to make wealth but when his soul proved to be worthless we need understand soul of a carnal man is worthless signifying it was only as good as his body had his being. Eyes are the window of one soul which is only the sound and fury one can perceive,- but does it add up? Such was the rich fool as the Bard would say, and he told a story as long as he walked with his heavy tread of wealth, but it was a tale at the end signifying nothing.

And David fled from Naioth in Ramah, and came and said before Jonathan, What have I done? what is mine iniquity? and what is my sin before thy father, that he seeketh my life?/2And he said unto him, God forbid; thou shalt not die.".

Jonathan was certain that his father shall not do anything without first telling him. It helps us recall the words of Jesus,""Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, that the Son does likewise( John 5:19)". When we speak of Christ living in us by faith our soul is that presence and it strengthens our our inner man every time we do things in obedience to his words so our soul is his presence irradiating inner man. It is like the face of Moses (Ex.34:29).

Stewart

Thank you for your words of encouragement. It is easy for me to admit because it is truth and I feel that If I speak of a lie then I am not in Christ if that makes sense. John 8:44

Put on the whole armour of God belt of truth. Ephesians 6:14

As I explained to S Spencer I take everything to heart and often I take it literal which I know not everything is to be taken literal.

However, I do apply it to me nonetheless.

I am like Solomon where I have tasted everything from this world and it has left me with nothing but emptiness. Now I just want to lead others to the grace, glory and salvation but to do that I need to get my own house back in order and make sure I have sound doctrine.

I thank you for your thoughts, prayers, encouragement and help. I will also pray that the love, grace and mercy of God be with you always.

God bless you. Amen

S Spencer

Greetings and grace to you in Jesus name.

I sincerely hope and pray that is not what Jordyn is preaching, if so then he has only deceived himself and needs our prayers. Even I understand that was the second lie that the serpent spoke. "Ye shall be as gods" Genesis 3:5

Although I trust in and believe God's words, It's myself I have doubt with. I take everything to heart and sometimes take it as literal which I know this can be silly.

Jesus spoke of a narrow road but I feel like I am treading on a thread of a spider web, having to watch my back from false teachers and doctrines etc. I do know this though, Jesus came in the flesh to save me from my sins and now that my eyes have been opened to that truth I cannot and will not return to the old me.

I guess I will just continue to pick up my cross everyday and pray that someday God will give me understanding.

I just want to be a lighthouse on a hill shining out to the sea of people for Jesus, if you get my meaning.

I love Jesus!

I thank you for your time in contacting me.

May God bless you with peace and love to you in Jesus name.

Lee the Follower:

I totally AGREE with Brother S Spencer.

It's is God speaking and NOT Job.

I will rephrase:

Job 27:1 Moreover God continued HIS parable .....

Job 29:1 Moreover God continued HIS parable ....

God Bless YOU!

Mat.3:1-2&7

1In those days came John the Baptist,preaching in the wilderness of Judaea,

2And saying,Repent ye:for the Kingdom of heaven(3rd heaven)is at hand.(Kingdom of Heaven will be established here from now on-Re.5:10 combined with Ephesians 1:3-14 and Re.1:6&20:6.Take a look)

7When John saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism,he said unto them,O generation of vipers,who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

Mat.23:13-35

13Woe unto you,scribes and Pharisees,hypocrites!for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men:for ye neither go in yourselves,neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

15Woe unto you,scribes and Pharisees,hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte,and when he is made,ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

23Woe unto you,scribes and Pharisees,hypocrites! ...

24Ye blind guides,which strain at a gnat,and swallow a camel.

31... ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

32Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers

33Ye serpents(serpents are sons of serpent),ye generation of VIPERS,how can ye ESCAPE the DAMNATION of HELL?

34Behold,I send unto you prophets,and wise men,and scribes:and some of them ye shall kill and crucify;and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues,and persecute them from city to city:

35That UPON YOU may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth,FROM THE BLOOD of righteous Abel UNTO THE BLOOD of Zacharias,whom YE SLEW between the temple and the altar.

Lk.21:22-23:->22 these be days of VENGEANCE,that ALL THINGS WHICH ARE WRITTEN may be fulfilled.23...for there shall be great distress in the land,and WRATH upon this people.(The Word is GOD,self-executable,understand?)

2Th.1:7-9

7...the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven...8In flaming fire taking VENGEANCE on them that know not GOD,and obey not the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ:9Which shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord...