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Ps.133 "Unity of the Spirit" (2 of 2)

It is the Holy Spirit exhorts,"Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!" If God could work with us and make us sons and daughters how do we treat others? Is it not blasphemous to divide them on account of race, color or according to our own ideas? Love of God is compared to precious ointment running down to anoint mankind as well. This is how we see the light through the true Light that came down to give us eternal life. Who are we to grudge it anointing others as well as we are? ( John 3:16). "Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:"(Ep.4:13)

All blessings pour down from the Sovereign Lord to the lesser. Unity of the Spirit explains this organization of several feature of His kingdom into which every creature has use and holds a place so no part can be seen as separate. "The eyes of all wait upon thee; and thou givest them their meat in due season./The eyes of all wait upon thee; and thou givest them their meat in due season."(145:15-16).

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."(Matt.5:18) This jot is set in context of the Law. How do we explain in human relationships? "And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me./But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."(Matt.18:5-6) Do we ask further proof if the church has lost its historical connection with church set on the foundation of Christ in the face of 'abuse' covered up by Mother church?

Ps.133 "Unity of the Spirit" (1 of 2)

Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!/It is like the precious ointment upon the head, that ran down upon the beard, even Aaron's beard: that went down to the skirts of his garments;/As the dew of Hermon, and as the dew that descended upon the mountains of Zion: for there theLordcommanded the blessing, even life for evermore.

Soul is the seal of this unity so human spirit is set in context of the Spirit of Christ. When the Holy Spirit says, "Now is the day of salvation' our time must synchronize with His Time, is it not? It is for this we have a scale as well as a body which was prepared no matter in the eternal mind but Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever gives us the basis with which we are set in in context of the eternal godhead. Faith with works do not mean mere observances in the manner the nation of Israel made a travesty of it.

Moses taught Israel, " Hear, O Israel: TheLordour God is oneLord:" (De.6:4) In the creation account we have this verse,"So God created man in his own image,"(Ge.1:27) How are we as a result? Spirit Soul and Body going in three different ways or all three working as one? Unity of the Spirit thus explains Trinity as well as man. None of these was brought by our own volition. Naked we came forth and we shall also leave empty handed. period.

The Same Spirit but with seven facets holding together so the eternal Spirit holds relevance. "For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God." 1 Co.2:11). Soul is compared to a child. Thus every man receive Jesus Christ by the same faith which is also one. This unity makes Jesus as the firstborn of all creation and others as our brethren.It is the Holy Spirit exhorts,"Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!"

Ps.132 "Rest forever"

We have the words of King Solomon at the dedication of the temple referring what was in the heart of his father. "And it was in the heart of David my father to build an house for the name of theLordGod of Israel."(1 Ki.8:17) This psalm references it in vv.1-5 not in context of David but to the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, Christ who could genuinely claim, 'This is my rest forever.'

Here below we have a passage from Apostle Peter explaining the outpouring the Holy Spirit. "Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day./...He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ,/ that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption./This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses./Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear." (Ac.2;29-33)

The outpouring of the Spirit served as a place of rest so one may boldly claim his heart as a tabernacle for worshiping God in Spirit and truth. Christ thus finds home in us by faith and by no other means. St Paul's prayer also makes it clear, "That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;/That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith;/ that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God." (Ep.3:16-20).

Power working in us reconciles two natures of Father and the Son in our soul. Holiness of God the Father and obedience of the Son are two sides of the Word as a sign and sound. Soul finds rest when man has faith and works. As Christ was in the world so we shall be be. Our soul would not be left in hell. Without witnessing to soul where abiding in Christ produces fruits we trivialize faith.

Rjgil4769:

2 Chronicles 20:29

God Bless YOU!

Brother S Spencer:

Romans 6:23 The wages of "SIN" is death .....

John 1:29 ..... Behold the Lamb of God, which takes away the "SIN" of the world ..... this sin is singular .....

I agree this "SIN" is a single sin.

Then you said: This speaks of the penalty of sin.

I disagree: the Lamb takes away this single "SIN" not the penalty of this single "SIN" and if this single "SIN" is not purged out of US: the PENALTY STANDS

This is the ONLY "SIN" not covered by the Lamb's blood.

God's word tells us what this single "SIN" is.

You have quoted this in other comments.

John 16:8 And when he is come he will reprove the world of "SIN"

This is the same single "SIN" and same world of John 1:29

This is the same single "SIN" that keep the children of Israel from entering the promised land, the PENALTY: they DIED in the wilderness.

John 16:9 Of "SIN" because they BELIEVE NOT ......

And what purges this "SIN"

Proverbs 16:6 By TRUTH and MERCY iniquity is PURGED.

Christ is the spirit of TRUTH, and when he IS COME he will reprove the world of UNBELIEF.

Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins (plural) of many and unto them who look for him shall he appear the second time without "SIN" (singular)(unbelief) unto salvation.

God BLESS YOU!

Ps.131 "Man child"

Lord, my heart is not haughty, nor mine eyes lofty: neither do I exercise myself in great matters, or in things too high for me./Surely I have behaved and quieted myself, as a child that is weaned of his mother: my soul is even as a weaned chil

God is the creator of heaven and the earth. "But I am poor and needy; yet the Lord thinketh upon me:"(Ps.40:17). What name shall fit him, considering His infinite nature? Whatever human intellect may settle shall be inadequate since Power and Wisdom of the Being is absolute. So the HolySpirit simply says, 'Holy is his Name.'( Luke 1:49). Holiness must explain every feature of His creative mind. Thus the fall of a sparrow does not go without it knowing (Matt.10:29), neither will He let go evil unpunished. Thus restoring holiness in His sovereign kingdom,- both worlds of the flesh and the spirit in harmony belongs to God alone. "For we know him who said, "Vengeance is mine; I will repay." And again, "The Lord will judge his people."(He.10:30; De.32:35).

God is a Spirit and when we say 'His people' it must be clear that holiness must necessarily be a common factor which is natural for man to work with God. Soul of man is the article which can serve him to this purpose. The indwelling Spirit serves as a tutor so it holds a candle to his innermost recesses. In the verse below we read the psalmist directed his body to behave in such manner so as to put his soul at rest. Man child is the name wherewith man may become part of His people.

Holiness of God suffices for man since his own attempts to pass for holy is like the truncated tail of a dead lizard. You see in it works but its body of faith is dead. In his Son is the fountain of light. We need see the light through the true Light. This is the way to holiness and in our faith we allow our lives to be molded in his image.

"Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:"(Ph.2:5-11)

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Ps.128 "Happy shalt thou be"

Blessed is every one that feareth theLord; that walketh in his ways./For thou shalt eat the labour of thine hands: happy shalt thou be, and it shall be well with thee.

Fear of the Lord was when Adam hid himself from the presence of God. We shall go through the passage in order to set the fear in proper context. Adam having ate of the fruit hears the footsteps,"And theLordGod called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?/ And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself./And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked?(Ge.3:9-11) Obviously Adam's bad conscience caused fear of consequences.

What made Adam assume that he was naked? His soul of course. Sin of disobedience had exposed himself, which affected his soul equally as well. This fear is not what the psalmist here sings about. Fear of God in man is where his soul is at rest. Contrast the feeling of Adam to this verse, "I was glad when they said unto me, Let us go into the house of theLord./Our feet shall stand within thy gates, O Jerusalem."(122:1-2). His gladness was from the fear of God, where the soul exulted with every part of his being. "And thou shalt love theLordthy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might."(De.6:5)

In pedagogy fear of the Lord stands foremost. "Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom'.. This is how instruction in righteousness has set down in scriptures. "But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption."(1 Co.1:30) Without this fear of God suffusing your entire, 'with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.' ministers may speak eloquently from pulpit but it is mere 'Jesus talk.'

3Thy wife shall be as a fruitful vine by the sides of thine house: thy children like olive plants round about thy table./Behold, that thus shall the man be blessed that fear

Ps.127:3-5 "Heritage of the Lord" (2 of 2)

Thus man child is a composite term and a Christian is not allied to any other than with Jesus Christ. "Behold, I and the children whom the LORD has given me are signs and portents in Israel from the LORD of hosts, who dwells on Mount Zion."(Is,8:18-ESV;He.2:13), Christians have no business to meddle with the so-called Christian nationalism. It is what the dead minding the cause of the damned.

"As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth./Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate."

These children brought before Jesus gives us a representation of the soul of man who receives Jesus by faith. They did not come there to be blessed by Jesus by any coincidence. Nor is our salvation left to chance.( John 6:37)

In the vision of John the cavalcade of the four introduces the man in white with a bow in hand. Where are his arrows? "And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer." (Re.6:2)

We see him again but this time leading an army and the arrows are there,"And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean."(Re.19:14)

Ps.127:3-5 "Heritage of the Lord" (1 of 2)

"Lo, children are an heritage of theLord: and the fruit of the womb is his reward."

The Spirit is not speaking of children in the sense they are flesh and blood but of the heritage of the Lord where faith is the DNA so Jesus would phrase accordingly. "Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein."( Mark 10:15). He blessed them when they were brought to him,"But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven."(Matt.19:15) Jesus knew what was written of him in the word. As man-child He represented the man part in it. . Isaiah refers to it. "for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.(Is.66:8)" In the preceding verse Isaiah designates them "Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child."(Is.66:7)

Zion as a dwelling place is 'the rod of thine inheritance'. "Remember thy congregation,whichthou hast purchased of old; the rod of thine inheritance,whichthou hast redeemed; this mount Zion, wherein thou hast dwelt."(74:2). The Father promised the Son consequently a congregation and it is to which the quote from Matthew leads us. Before we come to it here is a verse, "All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away." So the casual incident where the disciples rebuking those who brought children before Jesus has an important lesson for us. The Bible as a document is organized by the Holy Spirit for our instruction in righteousness. Thus Synoptic gospels are not simply four gospels but the command number four has its own significance. Besides through each four gospel the Holy Spirit is giving solid meat for our perfection. Gospels of Thomas and Philip may have their uses but the Holy Spirit has not found them fit with His purpose.

Thus man child is a composite term.

Hello Rjgil4769. There are many portions in the Bible, where we find that God promises to protect His people Israel. However, Israel, in their often disobedience & idolatry suffered much under God's Hand & were punished & given into the hands of their enemies. Yet, God's harsh dealings with them were to bring them back to Him, that they would reject all other gods & cleave only to Him. But suffer they did, but how long will it take for Israel to realize that they still spurn God's Love by rejecting Him & His Messiah Who came to redeem them? For this, Israel still suffers & will continue to do so until their eyes are opened & they shall see Him come in the clouds, "they also which pierced Him" ( Revelation 1:7)

Here are some Scriptures of God's care & promise to Israel: Genesis 12:1-3; Joshua 1:1-6; Psalm 83:1-18 (noting Asaph's appeal to God against those nations confederate against Israel. That all men might know the LORD' Name is Yahweh - not Allah); Psalm 122:6,7; Isaiah 41:8-16; Ezekiel chaps 38 & 39 (still future); Zechariah 2:8,9; Zechariah 12:2-9 (still future).

And we also see God's protection over Israel even after the birth of the Jewish State in May 1948: soon after this, five Arab armies (Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon & Iraq) came against a small Israeli opposition & were resoundly defeated. 1967 (six-day war) where Egypt, Jordan, Syria & Lebanon) attacked Israel to wipe them off the map. They were not only defeated by Israel but Israel captured the Sinai, Golan Heights, Gaza & the West Bank. 1973 (on Yom-Kippur), Egyptian & Syrian forces attacked Israel on this holy day (Day of Atonement). Once again Israel was able to defeat this surprise attack against them with the help of U.S. forces. And 2016, in December, a mysterious storm cloud (of dust and rain) put a barrier between Israel and ISIS. Reports say the storm stopped on the border of Syria and ISIS was 'unable' to enter Israel's Golan Heights area. God has not forgotten Israel.

Brother S Spencer:

I'm not trying to be a nuisance, just trying to understand where you are coming from.

I know you believe we are saved by grace alone.

You said, When I came to Christ, I confessed that I am a sinner in need of a saviour.

AMEN

You said, I wasn't let of the hook when God saved me.

I don't understand that.

Does grace only go so far? and not all the way.

God Bless YOU!

Where can I find the Scriptures concerning God being against the enemies of Israel?

There is no one claiming to have the Spirit of Christ that would stand in the way of the Gospel message by promoting a message that it is ok to continue in sin.

And there is no one claiming to have the Spirit of Christ that would support such a person.

This is what happens when the True Gospel begins to offend some because of persecution.

Or we get so caught up in self glory we compromise the truth for the praise of man.

Christians, You are not Brothers with everyone that says Lord Lord.

Life in Christ is not a script you play,

It's a life you live by the power of the Holyspirit.

Keep in mind of Jude 1:3-4.

"Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Brothers, be of great courage.

God bless.

Hi Jordyn.

Those are actually very good questions.

Yo asked; Do I sin?

Then you stated the following and asked another question;

"You will say, but I confess my sins and ask for forgiveness."

Your second question;

What happen if you miss one sin, and asking forgiveness, of just one sin you might have overlooked?

Jordyn, When I came to Christ I confessed that I am a sinner and in need of a savior.

I wasn't let off the hook when God saved me.

We know there is no remission of sin without the shedding of blood. Hebrews 9:22.

The wages of sin is death.

Romans 6:23.

John 1:29 says The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the "SIN" of the world. That sin is singular. This speaks of the penalty of sin.

That takes care of the deficiency of this body of death that is waiting for redemption.

The question today is did Christ pay the redeeming price for our sins before we sinned or after.

He paid the penalty for our sin "before" we sinned, and this was ordained of him before the foundation of the world.

So, I may have missed a sin but he certainly did not.

God bless.

Glorification: Final stage

1 Corinthians 13:12 states: For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. This relates to our perception of Christ; but also of course in glory we will see other saints in their eternal bodies as well for the first time. 2 Corinthians 3:18 says: But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

For now we do get glimpses; should we take the time to discern them of the Holy Spirit uniquely working in each true saint of God.

In physical appearance we still may look the same at least to the world to our early life when we were still in the world. Our identity is in Christ if indeed we are saved; and we are being transformed by the renewing of our minds ( Romans 12:2). Glorification will give us bodies it would seem like Christ when He could go through walls or doors ( John 20:19); we will be able to eat and drink ( Rev. 19:9; compare with Luke 24:42-43; and Mark 14:25). We will also rule and reign with Christ after returning with Him at Armageddon ( Rev. 19:14; Rev. 2:26-27).

Having no more suffering as promised in Revelation 21:4 and no more death certainly is an encouraging throught. I would submit that understanding the reasons for all of our earthly struggles may be even more poignant than understanding the suffering itself. We can take heart that Christ has His church as a reward; and we also can rejoice (or should) in one another and the time on earth invested in the Body of Christ as well as helping to fulfill the Great Commission. Again; it is rewards that are the variable that we are to strive for as seen in 1 Cor. 9:24-27. I am convinved many who receieve great rewards are relatively unknown at present praying in their closet; giving secretly to missions and serving under the radar. God sees the heart (see Heb. 4:12).

Amen Carleton.

God bless.

Brother S Spencer:

I have a question about your comment.

You said: Sin separates us form God, it doesn't bring us to God.

Do you sin?

I know you will say yes I sin.

So by your comment, you are separated from God, correct.

You will say, but I confess my sins and ask for forgiveness.

What happen if you miss one sin, and asking forgiveness, of just one sin you might have overlooked?

This has always puzzled me.

God BLESS YOU!

Kosh74:

What is SIN in God's eyes, NOT man's eyes?

Why do so FEW enter the Kingdom of God?

Does SIN keep them out?

ONLY eight in Noah's time.

ONLY two in Joshua's time.

Matthew 7:14 ... FEW there be that find it ..... in our time.....

Hosea 4:14 I WILL NOT PUNISH your daughters when they commit WHOREDOM, nor you spouses when the commit ADULTERY: for themselves are SEPARATED with whores, and they sacrifice with harlots, therefore the people that doeth not understand SHALL FALL.

Proverbs 16:6 .... by TRUTH and MERCY iniquity (sin) is purged ....

What is this SIN (in God's eyes) that can be purged by TRUTH and MERCY ......that keeps the many from the Kingdom of God?

God BLESS YOU!

Hello Kosh74 and God's blessings on you today.

I can understand what is happening to your son. I have three sons who were brought up in the faith and have gone the prodigal route. Two of them deal with anxiety/depression disorder that affects their life in so many detrimental ways.

I will certainly pray for your son, Sy.

Dear Heavenly Father, today we come before with humble hearts with concerns for our children who have turned from you despite being brought up to know You. As You know them through ad through, only You can truly help them to come back to You in faith. We lift up Sy, and Brian, and Rob, and Kevin before You in the name of Jesus, who alone can save anyone. Cause their hearts to be changed and regenerated by the working of Your Holy Spirit. We ask that Your Spirit create in these sons faith to believe the gospel once again and to run back to Jesus for salvation. Oh, Father, How often have we prayed for our children. Please save them soon. We continue to trust You to do this in them. We also ask that You will cause depression and anxiety to be taken from Sy, Rob and Kevin. Heal their brains from what causes this and their spirits from the work of the evil one who takes advantage of this weakness in them. We ask that You will deliver them fully from this mental ailment and give them soundness of mind, peace in their hearts, and rest for their souls in our Lord and Savior, Jesus, Your Son. We love our children so much, but we are not able to help them in the way they truly need to become whole and well. Only You can do all that we ask and hope for them. We entrust them into Your hands once again today, knowing that You hear our pleas and care for them more than we ever can. You have the sovereignty to do all things that are good and true according to Your perfect will. And we know that You desire for all persons You have created to come to salvation in Your Son. Please, act quickly in our sons' lives and turn these prodigals back to You soon. Amen

Kosh74:

What is SIN in God's eyes, NOT man's eyes?

Why do so FEW enter the Kingdom of God?

Does SIN keep them out?

ONLY eight in Noah's time.

ONLY two in Joshua's time.

Matthew 7:14 ... FEW there be that find it ..... in our time.....

Hosea 4:14 I WILL NOT PUNISH your daughters when they commit WHOREDOM, nor you spouses when the commit ADULTERY: for themselves are SEPARATED with whores, and they sacrifice with harlots, therefore the people that doeth not understand SHALL FALL.

Proverbs 16:6 .... by TRUTH and MERCY iniquity (sin) is purged ....

What is this SIN (in God's eyes) that can be purged by TRUTH and MERCY ......that keeps the many from the Kingdom of God?

God BLESS YOU!

Yes, brother Spencer!

Psalms 131:3 "Let Israel hope in the LORD from henceforth and for ever."

Hi GIGI, We make adjustments daily with our two boys, one is 17 and the other is now 21. Our daughter (23) teaches a DS student in Mississippi and is home most holidays and summer here in Oroville, CA (No CA).

:)

Sin separates us from God, It doesn't bring us to God.

Man in his natural state loves darkness.

Beware of anyone that teaches that sin is good!

Also Beware of the snare that God saves you by his Love and compromise his righteous Judgment.

"God so loved the world, THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON,

(( God didn't excuse our sin, It cost him dearly!

Christ was judged!! He wasn't let off the hook! He prayed 3 times to let this cup pass him!

If it was any other way, God didn't answer him.))

that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Read and Study John 3:17-21. and John 16:7-14.

We've been baptized into a body of believers and led and sealed by one Spirit. And that's Christ.

Israel in the OT shows the weakness of man left alone and the absence of the indwelling Spirit of Christ. and it is a lesson for you and I.

Judges 2:8-13.

And Joshua, the son of Nun, the servant of the LORD, died, being an hundred and ten years old.

And they buried him in the border of his inheritance in Timnathheres, in the mount of Ephraim, on the north side of the hill Gaash.

And also all that generation were gathered unto their fathers: and there arose another generation after them, which knew not the LORD, nor yet the works which he had done for Israel.

And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the LORD, and served Baalim:

And they forsook the LORD God of their fathers, which brought them out of the land of Egypt, and followed other gods, of the gods of the people that were round about them, and bowed themselves unto them, and provoked the LORD to anger.

And they forsook the LORD, and served Baal and Ashtaroth.

That's why Jeremiah 31:31-34 is Prophesied.

God bless.

Thanks Carleton. Yes, we are making adjustments now that we both are home all day.

Are you in northern or southern california?

Kosh74,

Thank you so much for sharing this as it does help knowing how we are to pray for your son. Salvation is of the utmost importance, and I along with others here will definitively pray that the Lord will work in his heart and draw him to a place where he sees his need for Christ, and receives Him into his life. May the Lord's will be done.

God bless you and your family!

Bennymkje,

Good explanation. I can't wait to possess fully what Jesus has prepared for us in glory!

Thank you RicoUS

Lord Jesus please glorify yourself in our family, among our relatives and beyond. Asking for strong protection, deliverance, healing and salvation (those not saved) and a mighty outpouring of the Holy Spirit. Lord you know our specific needs, situations and circumstances we keep bringing to you. Send breakthrough Lord. Send encouragement and strength. Thank you Lord. May your name be glorified. And Lord please do what I ask for us also for all others in need including the ones praying on here. Thank you Lord that you said you never get tired or weary and that nothing is too hard for you. Amen.

Thank you and PRAISE you Father, Lord Jesus!!! Please also help Gigi's husband to make the necessary changes to his diet. Thank you that we can call on you for help. Amen

Amen!! Thank you!!!