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Does anyone else find verses 15&16 strange concerning someone preaching the gospel of Christ to cause trouble for the Apostle Paul ?

John - sorry to not to have responded to your post of two months ago but I firmly believe that once a person truly confesses his faith in Christ and received salvation and forgiveness, he can never loose it. "I give unto my sheep eternal life and they shall NEVER persist. May God Himself richly bless you.

Carry,

It's a little off, but Hitler's end was his 1942-45 Russian campaign that lasted exactly 42 months!!!

The branches that make up anti-christ will rule all strong holds for 42 months.

Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

3.5 years the woman before she's devoured.

Who's the woman? The bride of Jesus experiencing pre-wedding turmoil?

Bob,

You have a point there, and if the plan is kept simple, it will work. I'm participating in my own experiment that started 2020-current where I avoid societies wheels completely. I've changed my hours, I sleep 8am-2pm; it's a beautiful thing. Grocery store shopping at night is awesome, working out, studying. Everything at night is free with no one around to rip me off, which will be dangerous, I carry. I taught myself many new things on the 3rd shift. I don't have to process the filth of a 9 to 5 routine. Friends, enemies, come and go, so I rely on me. I'm 26, educated, making good money in stocks, no wife to divorce, living pain free, and reading the Word on the down low.

( Revelation 18:4)

Heidi,

You have to add in vs 26 to get a feel for how primitive sounding the text is:

( Luke 14:27) And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

*Straight forward language to walk he walk with God.

( Luke 14:33) So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

*So I have to abandon my possessions to walk with God.

( Luke 14:26) If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

*Do not love others above God to walk with God. I don't hate family members, Jesus, so you got me there. I have a feeling there was more to this conversation than was published.

Heavenly Father, please find me a beautiful, perfect, obedience to God, have unwavering and unshakable faith without sight just by trusting and believing in HIM with no understanding (just like Hosea and Joshua), also walking in Holy Spirit, genuine Christian God fearing, Godly husband of your choice.

Also please remove the deception and conspiracy marriage and man, counterfeit marriage and those who have no faith in YOU , has wavering faith, double minded and ungodly man, disobedience, ambitious, temptation, rebellious against YOU and not walking in Holy Spirit but following the worldly life. NO MORE, remove them completely out of my life.

Heavenly Father, I trust and believe that your precious son Lord Jesus Christ will bring the right chosen Kingdom husband to me soon. Thank you Heavenly Father, Lord Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit because You are a good God who gives good things to those who ask from you. This is what the Bible says. I believe that You will give me a good loving Kingdom husband of Your choice. I covered every word in this prayer with Jesus blood in Jesus Christ name. Amen.

Please continue pray for me. Thank you.

Hello Derek. I can fully relate to what you're saying here & understand your anguish with all that's happening in the world. You say that you've "never seen anything like this in my lifetime". Evil men & governments have always been around us & we've always had to cope & vote according to our consciences, but to be sure, we will never see evil reduce or govts do what they are meant to do for society, until the return of the Righteous Ruler Who will bring in true godly values, government, equity & peace.

If one political party is seen to be despotic, murdering babies en masse & rewarding criminals, be assured that any other political party will not change all that, but could reduce it. If a reduction is all that one hopes for, then go for it. I remain unimpressed, because every aborted foetus is a life lost, every criminal that is freed who then murders another person has that crime heavily on the heads of the Justice Dept. as well, & every lethal vaccination given, without full & proper testing, that causes death, is also murder. That is simply how human govts work, composed of unrighteous men who have forsaken the Laws of God & ultimately in power to serve their own imaginations & desires, trying to somewhat hold society together to remain in control.

So how does the Christian cope or deal with it? Any confrontation or militant action, as has already been seen, are clearly unbiblical & not in step with the Spirit. And yet, our voices can be heard by approaches to political parties, use of the media, or at the ballot box. We can be on our knees for our countries & be a fragrance of Christ wherever we go - we may not be able to change the world but we can make a difference to someone or leave a standard for others to follow. Christ is Who the world needs & that is our responsibility & Divine task to make Him known with holy lives. When we see "men's hearts failing them for fear", then we have the Lord's Word to give as the answer & healing balm for their souls.

Brother Dan,

Your thoughts are in line with my thoughts on the crucifixion time-line.

Wednesday around sundown through Saturday around sundown = 3 days.

I saw a similar post last week asking about the time of day that Jesus was baptized. No on could definitively answer.

Thanks for the post.

Bob,

The people who doubt you will pay a heavy price.

If instant karma don't get them 1st, I will.

Sacha,

You are a dear, bless your heart, may you and your lucky husband prosper in heart. The other thread was closed for fundamental vanity, so I'm posting on the main page, cause I like you in a very normal 90's way. I was the 1st one to answer your poll, and I'll add another one. God is gifting you spiritual thoughts that turn into truth goosebumps.

What's happening now has always been happening since the inception of UK/US & others, state propaganda, but now, with tech, it's too hard to hide their exploits. Poor Iran, getting bullied by Israel; I can picture the pillar of thick black smoke, as new years day draws closer. These war developments will be answered with the usual smattering of unrest, then suddenly continents go dark ( Isaiah 13:11).

I meditate, have a float tank and it is the best get away for my mind, a reset. My night visions are vivid and directly connected to scripture, no man made doctrines or theories for me. Heaven's Gate can wait, Jim Jones can roll the bones.

Albert,

1 Timothy 2:11-15 gives us instruction on the proper function of the church. In the church, a woman is not to teach men or be placed in a position of authority over the men.

Verse 12 says, But I suffer not, that is I do not allow a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man.

We've got two things here. I do not allow a woman to teach. There's one. It doesn't say anything about men. Nor, to usurp authority over the man, which is why they shouldn't teach.

The term usurp authority over the man is the word authenticate. And it means that the woman is not to take the authenticity of man, what the male was created to do.

We read in Titus that the women are to take the younger women and teach them how to keep their home and love their husband and raise their children.



We're talking about doctrinal issues in the church. A woman is not to teach, nor to take the authenticity of man, don't take over for him, but to be in silence. That's what Paul said. They are to learn in silence.

This is not to say that women are not good teachers. But God's proper order in the church does not allow for the woman to teach the men or be in a position of authority over the men in the church.

I know this is not a popular teaching in today's society but this is what the Bible teaches. I personally think there are many women who can do a far better job than some of the men in the church, but God's word simply does not allow it. How do we bypass verse 12 with a clear conscience?

dear god in heaven did you open my prayers?

Copy and save your post in your Notes folder. You need to post it again on the weekend when more people are in here.

If the Bible can point the finger at China and regions in the Mideast (NOT Israel), then there must be some truth in it.

We are the generation that the Book of Daniel speaks of in Daniel 12:3-13

Daniel 12:3 is our mandate, if we accept it.

The Holy Spirit is going to bring this prophesy to Light; to anoint servants and handmaids.

God confirms His OWN WORD.

We As a Nation are being cursed according to Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28. Our Nation has made decisions that AFFECT THE NATION OF ISRAEL; and we will suffer the curses for it. It's written, it will happen. Another thing is 3 Horsemen are released.

What do the four horsemen represent?

* The red horse of the Apocalypse represents wars.

* The black horse of the Apocalypse represents famines.

* The pale horse of the Apocalypse represents pestilence (disease epidemics and pandemics) and death.

* The white horse of the Apocalypse represents religious deception. Antichrist, Beast, False Prophet.

Luke 21:25-26 Keep your heart and mind on Jesus. Wars create famine; famine creates disease, pandemics, FEAR.

THIS ALL MEANS THAT "THE CAUGHT UP IN THE CLOUDS, is really close. Evangelize those you love now. Fear is a demon, and command it to go into outer darkness, IN JESUS NAME. Eph. 6. This Bible is more deadly than an Apache Hellfire Missile. We've got to have confidence in Gods Word to get us through this part, ok? What do sheep do when they see the enemy? The run to the Good Shepherd. He is our Source, our Commander. Read of Gideon's men. The lapped water with eyes up looking for enemies. They won!!

Evangelize like Jesus did. That deserves study in the Gospels. Pray with the Holy Spirit. Always take Him with you. Settle your spirit.

Tell us in here what you want to learn. We love the brethren. Let's talk in this room.

I speak peace over you. Mishael

As a sinner if we call upon the Lord Jesus in faith he will save us from what ever it is . For salvation or other .

I have experienced this in many ways . Sometimes before I finished prayer , sometimes I needed to wait upon the Lord until the answer comes .

Always keep praying til the answer comes said George Muller of Bristol that mastered prayer . Look him up on the internet. He is way gone now but left some great testimonies.

Now we have pastors signing on with the push for their flock to be vaccinated. Have these so-called leaders even read the Bible? Even a backwoods bumpkin like myself knows where this road is going...

What can one say really . My blood runs cold . Nevertheless If the Lord through Paul had not in his great mercy given us this crucial warning for just this moment of history I truly believe hopeless chaos and unrestrained evil would have triumphed already. Imagine what the world would be without Gods word . It would be a kind of desperate hopeless thrashing in the darkness. What a miraculously small thing to be so immense. A few words in black and white but so powerful that the vast evil we now see so clearly in its full horror, encompassing the entire planet, trying to crush every life and destroy every soul is, for every believing Christian, undone by Gods word. In this chapter world encompassing evil and the machinations and plots of the insanely powerful are humbled in the presence of Gods' foreknowledge and power. It is very very bad right now and we all know its going to get a lot worse, but we read this chapter ( and others of course) and we don't have to despair. I always understood before the evil really came down hard that in this chapter Paul was speaking of things God had allowed him to know. It is that for sure but now that the rubber has well and truly hit the road doesn't the spirt of Jesus come through incredibly strongly. The minimal necessary, disclosure, is utterly enough. That's pure Jesus. I don't know if that makes senses to anyone else but to me in this present desperation I feel strongly in this chapter the mildness and the strength of our Lord that doesn't have or need missiles or laboratories or underground cities. Paul can confidently afford to put everything we need in a few paragraphs and wham bam enough said. But for all of its brevity there no minimizing the magnitude of the evil either. Jesus is gentleness mildness and some serious wrath. I have not expressed things all that well but Forgive me my sins Lord and hold America in your hand we know the deal is going down. PRAISE to the Lord God almighty.

One more thought... it's interesting that they said to ask for the church's forgiveness. No, your brother needs to ask for God's forgiveness! I do think that's fair for them to request an apology to be back in the worship band though, but I don't think a public one is needed, especially if most people didn't know it happened. Again, I'm only basing an opinion on limited info.

Hi Sheila,

That's a tough situation- sorry your family has to go through that.

I don't consider myself any legal or pastoral authority on the matter, but I'm happy to offer my opinion as a Bible believing Christian.

First, your brother made a mistake. If the police gave him a DUI then he definitely was over the legal limit. It was illegal and irresponsible what he did and that is final. People make mistakes. He should be glad he didn't hurt or kill anyone while driving. I think it's a sin to do that. People who do that and hurt others are affected their whole life with guilt and some have dramatic things occur. So, a lot of darkness is avoided by him getting a ticket and learning a lesson. If he feels he's not guilty and continues doing it, then maybe some very dark days could be ahead for him and that would be extremely sad. It would be unfair to everyone else if he did that again. For instance, to me. What did I do to deserve someone else driving impaired on the same road as me? That's very wrong. I also think it's wrong for you to defend him. He got a DUI. They don't give DUIs if someone isn't impaired. If impaired he could murder someone. Just stop defending this sin.

Drinking alcohol in moderation is ok, as Jesus turned water into wine. But God forbids drunkenness and harming your holy temple (body). And it's wrong to endanger others.

If your brother was a normal member of the church, I would say the preacher is out of line in his demand. But he's in a worship team as a leader- maybe he took an oath? or signed or agreed to certain conduct? He obviously can't do worship team anymore.

But I think asking him to publically apologize is out of line as it didn't affect them. There likely are many other sins being commited that others don't publically apologize for. The only difference is this one was published in the media and probably was embarassing for the preacher. I'd apologize to preacher, but if not loving then find a new church. Go and sin no more.

I'm asking Jesus right now to give you His peace. He is still, all God and all human like us. Trust in Him, trust in His Word (Bible).

I was just seeing what this websites search engine would fetch, a year ago. I typed in CHINA to a King James Bible. It fetched 3 scriptures: written thousands of years ago. God SEES the past and present: on earth [Alpha and Omega]. He lives outside of Time too, in Third Heaven.

Settle yourself as you read this past post I wrote.

3 PLAGUES IN THE BIBLE FROM ASIA

Revelation 16:12

The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, to prepare the way for the kings from the EAST.

[comment: formerly called the Silk Road; which has been rebuilt.

Revelation 9:14-18

The number of mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number. And this is how I saw the horses in my vision and those who rode them: they wore breastplates the COLOR of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur (national colors of China) and the heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and fire and smoke and sulfur came out of their mouths. By these THREE PLAGUES, A THIRD OF MANKIND IS KILLED by the fire and smoke and sulfur coming out of their mouths.

Matthew 24:14

And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

Isaiah 49:12

Behold, these shall come from AFAR, and behold, these from the north and from the west, and these from the land of SYENE.

[comment:

China gave us Swine FLU. SARS virus, Corona virus. I got a feeling that corona virus isn't done killing yet. It's morphing]

I don't think we need to act like this is just like past FLU episodes. We get a flu shot and feel protected for another year. Corona virus doesn't ACT like past "flu's."

If your Bible doesn't have Ancient Bible Maps WITH the Ancient Names for those regions; you can google online. "Ancient Bible Maps"

One other point I'd like to make is that all these viruses etc, do pass away on their own . That truly is the mercy of God , or we all would have died long ago from plagues and viruses.

Hi Chuck. Do you remember which Bible version that your Sunday School teacher was using at the time; or which one you & the other kids were using? I think the problem stems from how the translators view this portion of Scripture. So your teacher could have told you that all of John 3:16-21 were not Jesus' Words but John's own words - that Jesus' Words ended at verse 15. My guess is that he/she was using one of these versions: the NIV, NET or GNT Bibles; & there could be others too that could be added to that list which show that the Lord's Words ended at verse 15.

However, most translators believe & have included quotation marks all the way from John 3:10-21, believing that this was a complete discourse given to Nicodemus by Jesus only. I believe this to be correct, as the Gospels were written by these four men as they recalled Jesus' Words, travels, encounters with other people, etc., & not to give their own understanding/impressions of spiritual Truth. When we go to the Epistles (e.g. 1, 2, 3 John), then we begin to see their personal teaching to believers based on their own experiences with Jesus, what they learnt from Him & the direction of the indwelling Holy Spirit to pen these letters.

So brother, even though the KJV, & a few others, don't use quotation marks (according to their absence in the original texts), I believe that if they did, then they would include the whole passage from John 3:10-21 as Jesus' Words to Nicodemus. I hope this helps you.

Also... everyone vaccinated is still getting covid. I know two people right now who were vaccinated a month ago and just got it and are sick. The lies and deception, oppression and death are at a level I have never seen in my lifetime.

Joel 2:28-32

is a prophesy about the Last Days.

Servants and hand maids are we.

If we pray always to the Lord of the Harvest, God will arrange divine appointments. That's the first thing Jesus taught me about being an evangelist: one who carries the Good News.

All things work together for good...

I think everything should be done decently and in order, as the Bible teaches. If God calls someone to ministry, He Will make a way for it.

The Tree (Jesus) is known by its Fruit. Without the Anointing of the Holy Spirit; the way will be difficult. Prepare. Follow Jesus.

I like to deal with facts and truth. The truth is that the media and politicians have lied about this virus from the beginning. They lied about the origins- instead of saying a corona virus came from the corona virus lab they used China's PR department sound byte that it came from bats in a wet market. Then almost immediately other countries discovered HCQ was effective against it, then big pharma did fake studies where they gave lethal doses to patients who were already dying, instead of normal doses early on. Talk about dishonest, so the government then banned the one medicine found to remedy it and thousands died unnecessarily.

Then an even better medicine was found ivermectin- and they did the same. Google, Facebook, Twitter even ban and block mentions of it. So, people with loved ones dying can't get the information that could save their life. c19ivermectin dot com - just look at the thousands of studies done- it's practically the cure to covid, but the media and big tech has censored this life-saving info and instead is pushing a totally experimental injection that isn't FDA approved that hasn't even been tested on lab rats, and people are dying from it by the thousands. It's like sheep lined up to be slaughtered. Meanwhile the pharma companies are so rich from billions pouring in. Political kickbacks.

How can anyone even handle this grave injustice?! The government and media has tried hard to spin the deaths so no one will talk about the vaers death count and they even reversed it recently- removing thousands of deaths with no explanation.

They also lied about the masks. Fauci said masks don't do anything, then he said we all must wear it. Then he said only the sick need to wear it, then changed his mind. Everyone knows the masks don't protect you- you can smell virtually anything through it. And the 2 things that DO work: social distancing and ventilation- virtually no one does.

The CDC has also lied about the death count. There's virtually zero flu, because they count them all as covid. 95% of covid deaths aren't from covid- straight from the CDC's own website fine print.

People are fed and are going crazy over this. I'm having a hard time controlling my anger over this huge injustice. People are dying because of lies. Jesus please help us.

Prophesy written by King David hundreds of years prior: said Judas would betray Jesus; so, As being the Word of God (on earth), Jesus knew this would happen just as it did.

"Even my own familiar friend in whom I trusted, Who ate my bread, Has lifted up his heel against me."( Psalm 41:9 NKJV)

Judas knew who Jesus was. Yet he still did it. The hour of shadows.

Hi Frandell. I'm perty tight with God. In Song of Solomon, He wrote:

I AM my beloveds!

My Beloved is MINE!

I grabbed right onto that statement with all my Texas charm lol.

He's mine and I'm not letting go!!! It just gets even sweeter and tight every single day. He shows me Bible verses that never fail to make me want to follow him around like that movie, is the name The Fawn? I forgot.

I love that scripture where Jesus tells Nicodemas, "You're not far from the Kingdom of Heaven".

He just needed to pray the prayer. Agree that we sin. (I do talk a bit about other people's driving a little :/ I'm trying to quit.

I hope you like this place. I do. Mishael

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OUTBREAK: 10 OF THE WORST PANDEMICS IN HISTORY. The CDC revealed these numbers. Go to the website to see the co-vid news.

It has the death totals for every pandemic since the 1700's. It's quite stunning.

I was born in the 50's. Every child HAD to get a polio shot. It was that or be paralyzed and live inside of an IRON LUNG, forever. Our parents prayed and we got the polio shot. Which left a little scar on our arms. That's how nasty polio was. Every child had one. Your grandparents can show you their scars.

Covid vaccines are not the mark of the Beast.

God will not allow a SNEAKY AGENDA to kill millions.

HE IS ALLOWING TIME FOR PEOPLE WAFFLING ABOUT BEING BORN AGAIN, TO PRAY FOR SALVATION.

EITHER YOU TRUST GOD OR YOU DONT.

GET YOUR NAME WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE NOW. God is patiently waiting on people to believe He is who He says he is. He's going to give us many many SIGNS, that we need to do the ONE THING, that will save our lives...eternally.

Let me testify to this act of faith. When you trust in the Living God of all people: you will know in your heart and mind, that you are sealed unto the day of redemption. He will answer your prayers if they are not harmful to you. I knew the very next day that something had changed.

If we do not pop open a Bible, New Testament; as soon as we can; it's like being in the lake without an inner tube. We have to find out what we got.

You get eternal security, eternal life, blessed coming and going; comforted every time you feel scared. Ask it. Receive it. Possess it as your most precious possession!

People faith wobbles until they get themselves plugged in. Every Television is sold with an OWNERS MANUAL. That's what this Bible is. God will not allow His precious child to be hurt by a vaccine. We can get killed crossing a parking lot.

Trust the one who can save you! Save your soul. Speak to you= do or don't do something.

Receive Him!

Can women teach in the church? men? women? children? be a helper to the pastor?