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S Spencer I agree the apostle Paul was given the revelation or knowledge from Jesus Christ on how the body of christ should operate and Paul witness to all asia in 2 years and three months Acts 19:9+10, and yet years later according to 2 Timothy 1:15 all Asia turned away from Paul thats an unbelievable statement so not only did people change beliefs they were no longer endeavoring to walk in body by the spirit. I've seen the same in my lifetime, it says in Ephesians Endeavoring to keep unity of spirit in bond of peace. May God show all of how to get better. God Bless

I am kind of lost for words. I have tried three times now to say what I want to say but cannot find the words to do so. There is name calling, talking down to others and just not being what a God fearing person should be on here. If you do not like what someone says then just forgive them and move on. I know this will not do any good at all but I have seen this site go down hill for six months now because of all the ones that think they know all the answers to everything going on right now and the past. I would not want one of my kids to see this site now. If you cannot keep you rude comments to yourself then please stop. I have even seen several people say that the virus is not real and is a fake. You do not know and I do not know the truth about it or where it came from. Please do not ack like you know. I have seen people die from it or at least that is what they said it was? This is one of the most wonderful sites I have ever seen so please lets keep it this way. Amen and thank you Lord for everything you do and have done for me and my Family. I still have not found the words I really wanted to use.

S Spencer,

I don't see evidence supporting anyone other than the 144k firstfruits being of the first resurrection. The group in Revelation 5 that live as kings and priests, are the 144k. What the 144k do for a thousand years is symbolic ( Revelation 7:15) Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. The 144k are the church, they are the bride. They are Christ-like. They are the only group officially sealed. Revelation is peppered with them in 7 chapters, illustrated in allegory or metaphor to subtly let you know something is afoot.

I found a scripture that would bolster your belief ( Isaiah 13:15). It's for pre-tribbers, but don't tell them.

( 1 Thessalonians 4:17) Everything hinges on this description, then weighing out the billions of people who will attend. It could be that Paul, who's part of the elect 24, was describing his fellow saints rising. I understand your position, better to be a seventh trumpet riser, than the others. What other scripture supports your doctrine? I will spend some time researching this and other scriptures that lend clarity.

In summary, it all depends on how you interpret scripture, or if you're strongly committed to an ideology to alter. I have looked in the web at what others think about prophesy, scholars, and my interpretations all all to myself. I want God to grade my Bible IQ when we're face to face (2nd resurrection).

S Spencer Thats from context what I understand also.

Carlton Also look up Tishri 1 Judean Calendar at the time of Christ Birth and what else was celebrated on that date yearly very significant, in light of Jesus Christ being KIng of Kings I.E. He who was born King Of The Jews. Very inspiring read

Carry Lennert,

This by the Bible can not be confirmed, Daniel told when the Messiah would come Daniel 9:25, 483/476.4 years from the going forth to rebuild Jerusalem and the walls. They went forth around 446 BC minus 476.4 360-day years=29 AD. If you take in Luke 3 it was the 15 th year of Tiberius Caesar who came to be emperor 14 AD, which also puts it in 29 AD. Also, Pontius Pilate ruled from 26-36 A.D. The start of John the Baptist ministry.

Jesus went to 3 Passovers John 2:13, John 5:1, John 6:4 The fourth Passover He was crucified, John19:14. That would put 1080 days from the first Passover Jesus after he was baptized by John the Baptist. This leaves 180 days so, this would put the baptizing of Jesus in the month of Tehri, September- October our months. 40 days of temptation and then choosing the twelve will put them before the wedding in Cana of Galilee and the first Passover Jesus went after He was baptized by John the Baptist.

Jesus gave up the ghost at 3 PM the ninth hour on 14 th day of Nisan the 5 th day of the week. Jesus' ministry was 42 months or 1260 days. God placed Jesus at the exact day and month of the year the first Passover was done in Egypt. Jesus went into Jerusalem on the 10 th of Nisan the day the lambs were taken up and held until Passover.

Jesus was placed on the cross at 9 AM the same time the first Tamid lamb was sacrificed and put on the altar. All during that day, all the people's sin offerings were placed on the altar. Jesus gave up the ghost at 3 PM the same time the last Tamid lamb was placed on top of all the sin offerings for that day on the altar. The First and Last. Also, the time the priest started catching the blood of people's Passover lambs and pouring it on the altar.

If God caused just the things I listed to be done at the exact time. If God wanted these dates to match to the exact second, it would have been so. May you have a purpose for your question. All is possible through faith in Jesus Christ.

RLW

Peace be with you brother.

Thank you so much for the response. This virus has affected society in general and is so handicapped that even fellowship in a church is disappearing. I myself can be straight and honest with you all I know Jesus lives in me but still I lack true fellowship with believers that are on fire for God and I want that. There's one verse that has touched me and still does and that's in Revelation 21 where he says all their tears will be wiped away. My Christian life has been a struggle. My family aren't Christian and within that lies a problem in my spiritual growth hence the whole attack on spiritual forces. I've been asking the Holy Spirit to guide me into a church that is on fire and wants to go all out. But if it's one thing I'm learning is patience and waiting is something we have to do like Psalms 130 says I'll wait for you. For now we pray for each other and hope that all of us are in one sound mind and remain spotless until the return of Christ

Paul was bit by a snake, did Paul use a anti-dought for the bit, what was that?

9/11 was already called 'national emergency day' before 2001, because people dial 911 for an emergency operator in the US. While not an official national holiday, this date was on some calendars and congress also acknowledged this special date before 2001. I believe that's why the muslim terrorists chose this date, because they created a national emergency on our national emergency day.

Dianne,

John stopped baptizing around 3 pm (sun was high in sky)

If Jesus died at 3 pm that would make sense. However, sundown in Jerusalem, April 7th is 7 pm.

Jesus may have died closer to sun down, as Joseph and Nicodemus came to collect and bury Him. Before sundown the Romans broke the legs of the 2 criminals, but not Jesus, as he was already dead. Perhaps Jesus' 42 months expired, making Him succumb, prompting Him to start talking to the Father so he wasn't alone.

In contrast, anti-christ loses power when his 42 months expire, then he is consumed. This has me curious if there's an answer out there in academia, or if they are able to make such assumptions.

Hi Brother Arnold.

I can second everything you have said, And I agree with Brother Chris also. Things is just not the way it started in acts 2. The Church prophesized with leaven in it from the the very beginning. " Leviticus 23:17. " Also Paul said in

Acts 20:29-30. For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

("" Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them."")

Also Jude: Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

I believe the Church has become worldly and is spiritually wounded. But they're many like yourself that feels a nudge from the Holyspirit to not be slothful in true worship. While you are there come forward and offer help in that area, lets do our best to make a difference. I'm going through the same thing, your complaint mirrors mine!

One thing I can tell you that the coronavirus did is manifest this lack of Genuine Love between the brothern.

Their worship was always at a place and on a day. but not in truth and in spirit.

Reminds me of John 4:23-24. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Continue to keep yourself in scripture and sharing at your church and with others in the spirit of meekness, Believe me it's a struggle! but remember you are not alone.

God bless you.

I am glad I found this.I can see this much better on the computer. Having the BIBLE on the computer is a wonderful idea.

Dale absolutely Look at Gospel of John 14: 12-14, one of these days were going to believe this stuff. Think of all the works He Did, and to think all someone has to do is confess Romans 10:9+10 and believe. There was a man I think His name was star daily Great man of God, confessed Romans 10:9+10 on death row believed and don't know if it was instantaneous of over time but when they came for execution His visage Changed so much that they believed they locked up the wrong man and set Him free. Another one was a narcotics dealer in south america son of an Evangelist who mother was preaching one night and stopped to pray for her son. At the time she prayed he had a gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger and it shot but the bullet turned to power in his mouth. He new it was a miracle got born again. One more I met a lady born again that was prayed for her sickness, died was rolled down to the hospital area for autopsy and shocked the examiners because before they did anything she woke up and sat up healed. Its available

Eric When God ask solomon what do you want he didn't ask for riches or glory he ask for wisdom to Lead Gods people the Book of Ecclesiastes is his observation after having wealth honor riches and glory solomon boils life down to Ecclesiastes 12: 13 + 14.

The 9-11 date has played a significant role throughout history.

Tisha B'Av is a day of morning for Jews. It is the day Jews remember the destruction of the two Temples. Tisha B'Av happens to be on September 11th. There is a greater connection:

Our leaders study scripture, they knew 9-11-01 and the ( Revelation 9:1-11) narrative fit their offensive perfectly. So, the fifth trumpet army went out like locust to conquer the ME. The US killed Muslim's who didn't have the seal of God in their foreheads. There are no "green things" in the desert to destroy ( Revelation 9:4).

Johnathan.

The group in Revelation is not reigning on the earth. They're in heaven in the midst around the Throne! Revelation 5:6. And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

And they're not the 144 thousand seen in Revelation Ch. 7 and 14. In Revelation 7 and 14 they're 12000 out of every tribe of Israel.

Revelation 7:4. And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

In Revelation 5:9:11. It directly says they're out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

I believe this is the Church that has been raptured up.

God bless.

Hi Willie.

Perhaps you're right. I believe he was tossing it about in his mind in Ch 10.

Job 10:2. "I will say unto God," Do not condemn me; shew me wherefore thou contendest with me.

Fred First temptation he was hungry physical temptation self preservation.

Dale God designed the human body to be self healing any Honest person in the medical field will attest to that statement now to be healed By God of something from my experience and when you read if I'm reading correctly when Jesus Christ healed with Gods power you always read immediately. There's the difference between the two and since the day of pentecost absolutely available in any and all categories example and this is the mind blower Gospel of John 14:10-14 wrap your head around that one. Thats what available after Romans 10:9+10. What a Father and Saviour. God Bless

Fred Scanlan,

Jesus said 'if your dog was hungry, would you feed him a stone?"

Grace Speaking from experience also very nice God Bless

Willie Both having conversation and thinking but he never blamed God for his situation, Job 3: 25 was the cause of all of his problems, its the same in our lives, right after adam and eve sinned they Hid themselves from the God who loved them and gave them everything because they were afraid of Him. Time and time again in Gods word when God interceded for mankind we read the words Fear Not. Now when the Bible says fear God for believers its respect and awe unbelievers its terror. I have heard and read where people say God tempted Job, that contradicts James 1:12+13. Jobs fear was that his family was sinning all the time look at Job1:4+5 was on his mind all the time he sacrificed continually. Jobs remarkable that he didn't blame God although wife did and friends did instead he prayed for them, tremendous lesson. In the end God blessed him super abundantly, adversary lost again.

Matthew 3:10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

In job the 10th chapter, was he talking directly to God or was this something that was tossing about in his mind ?

If you stand fast in Christ Jesus, then i believe that the Devil is unable to touch you if you have no accusations! However, a accusation opens the door wide open for the Devil to touch your flesh! But we who believe in Christ, kno that the key is repentance! We no die bcuz we sin, we die cuz we no repent! Admit, surrender to Christ with all your heart, mind, soul and strength and Christ will always be there to protect. The devil cannot touch a strand of hair from ya! That i truly believe & i speak thru experience!

Thank you Chris for your kind words. God shows us many aspects of our life and the things we face in David's life. Gives us a look of how we can glorify the Lord and serve Him

I want you to pray for my Spiritual life.

Does the Bible talk about ufo

Tis gets interesting:

( Revelation 5:9-11) alludes to the 144k reigning on the earth.

9 And they sung a NEW SONG, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

*ten thousand times ten thousand = 100k, and thousands of thousands = 44 = 144k

( Revelation 14:2-4) confirms it's the 144k from Revelation 5.

2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3 And they sung as it were a NEW SONG before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

Now the question becomes, what are the 144k doing at the seal opening when they themselves are sealed much later, before the day of the Lord, ( Revelation 7)? I notice a lot of 'first shall be last and last shall be first' patterns in Revelation. I got a feeling that that's what's happening here, it is esoteric. A grand mystery always unfolding.

I think is in reference to "two is better than one". The New Living Translation (NLT) says it this way "A person standing alone can be attacked and defeated, but two can stand back-to back and conquer. Three are even better, for a triple-braided cord is not easily broken." I think the third person would be God, for he said in Matt. 18:20 (KJV) "Where two or three is gathered together in my name there am I in the midst of them." I hope this help. God Bless..