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Did Japheth sacrifice his daughter?

In September 2020 women in Pensacola FL. admitted to branding little kids with Satans' beast mark and have been cursing the Holy Spirit of God publicly and has since gotten much worse as they lie to outsiders. Please ask God to send the Holy Ghost!

What does this particular part of scripture means: CHRIST was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel .

Oh Adam I see now!, Thanks!

1) Jesus clearly tells the people he is from God here

2) The son of man reference confuses me somewhat

3) Why did He(Jesus) use My Flesh and my Blood

i ponder on theses questions a lot

1 Thessalonians 4:17

"Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

It seems clear what it means to me. Some posting here seem upset about this verse for whatever reason.

To the smug Christians comment I've been taught people don't care how much you know until they know how much you care 1 Corinthians 13. Lets edify anybody can point finger and find fault , our adversary is the master at that.

Gertrude,

Are you asking me to answer the questions I have asked of you? If I am seeking your answer, I'm not sure how I can answer for you? As far as my level, I'm not sure what that would be. I have never thought of trying to reach any certain level, or being in competition with other believers. I can only know and understand what the Lord wants me to understand. Apart from Him, I can know nothing. I guess you can say that I am just a dumb sheep totally dependent upon the Lord for all things. I cannot have any understanding unless it comes from Him. As for the questions I had, I was simply looking for your answer. You can answer any way or level you wish. I promise to not reply back with any argument, as I'm not looking for one. Thank you!

Cedrick hopefully we are trying to live up to Gods Standard, Im just another believer endeavoring to study.

Jesse here's another one of my favorite scripture 2 Timothy 2:15 the word rightly divide is from the greek orthotomounta which means one way. I believe Gods telling us figure out what I mean not what you think I mean. Look at the context pf the scripture to leadership in the church.

Christian I have no idea the point of your comment on this websight. Either were here to encourage and inspire or it goes south from there James 3:13-17.

Smug definition according to the Merriam Webster Dictionary: Having or showing the annoying quality of people who feel very pleased or satisfied with their abilities, achievements, etc.

"I am just as learned as a Bible scholar from years of playing Bible Jeopardy. I run circles around the swift."

With all due respect sir, your statement fits the definition of a "Smug Christian." But congrats on being the Bible Jeopardy champ!

Brother Earl.

You quoted:

" Brother S Spencer, I have not found anywhere in scripture that describes the cherub as being anything other than flaming swords (the word of God) of fire and the glory of God."

End quote.

Earl it seems to me you did find a scripture!! " The one I pasted!! I never gave an interpretation on it, You did!!

All I did was copy and paste it to Chris answering hi question.

And you came along and NAILED IT!!

Here's the pasted verse I used earlier pulled out of Ezekiel 28:12-18.

( Ezekiel 28:14.""THOU ART THE ANOINTED CHERUB"" that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.)

Incase one missed it, He's called a cherub again in Ezekiel 28:16.

YOU NAILED IT!! And disbelieve your own interpretation.

Look at Ezekiel 28:12-18. With that layed out detailed description how can you not take it literal!!

You said you have not found anywhere in scripture that describes the cherub as being anything other than flaming swords (the word of God) of fire and the glory of God."

Look at Ezekiel 28:18. .......I BRING FORTH A FIRE FROM THE MIDST OF THEE, IT SHALL DEVOUR THEE, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

"" So I suppose God is going to bring fire upon ( THE WORD OF GOD ) and DEVOUR it and bring it to ashes upon the earth?

You don't believe in a literal Satan, Oseas believes Satan seduced Eve but you guys agree with one another.

Of all the Amillennialist on this site you can't find 2 that agree on anything! But most of you claim being Spirit led.

People be careful of what's being presented to you and study scripture.

God bless.

Cedrick not at all I'm not interested in one up on knowledge as Paul wrote in 1 corinthians 13 knowledge puffeth up but love edifieth or builds up. Someone said to me one time people don't care how much you know until they know how much you care. So lets build up.

Hello Dianne,

First of all, Amen. I can't help but wonder sometimes. I think most would agree that the Bible is all God's word, cover to cover. I think the problem sometimes comes from piecing scripture together that shouldn't be pieced together. I myself have been guilty of that in the past and had to learn the hard way.

I love 2 Timothy 3:16-17. The term inspiration of God is all one Greek word that means God breathed. All scripture is God breathed, and is profitable for four things: For doctrine. That's the system of the Christian faith. For reproof. This is a legal term that means to present proof to the court to bring about a conviction. For correction. This means to bring people and make them line up with the things of God. Correction is to get people back on the right track.

And then for instruction in righteousness. The word instruction doesn't come from anything about teaching. In fact, it comes from the word discipline. It means to discipline children. So the word of God is profitable for disciplining people in righteousness. God through His word will bring conviction. And He will teach us the doctrines, especially of Paul, and of Christ.

Nick doesn't the bible say irs going to get worse and worse in this world, were not here to save the planet or powers of this world just to reconcile men to God teaching them about Jesus Christ. Remember this world is not our permanent home. Food for thought. Our home is in heaven

Hello Earl,

I see the Old Testament as history and prophecy, history of God working through and in His people (the children of Israel), and prophecy about the coming Messiah. The Hebrew OT is arranged differently than our English Bible and is broken down into three sections: The Law (Torah), which is Genesis through Deuteronomy, The Prophets (Neviim) which is Joshua through Malachi, (minus Ruth, Lamentations, and Daniel) and then the writings (Ketuvim) which is Job through 2 Chronicles (including Ruth, Lamentations & Daniel). As far as the two witnesses, these are (two) people that will be protected by God. And they will be testifying in the streets of Jerusalem for 3-1/2 years.

You are correct in saying that the scripture only speaks of two (Enoch/Elijah) that were taken before experiencing death. But as far as the possibility of a numerous number of others who were possibly translated the same, I cannot entertain that thought.

I'm increasingly concerned about the end times and noticed the US Congress has posted a bill H.R. 666. The number of the beast. It claims to be "Anti-Racism in Public Health Act of 2021" and declares "racism" a public health crisis. It gives CDC power to become law enforcement.

We have already seen the lies of the CDC from this recent 'pandemic' where they push out a high number of deaths to scare people, but quietly on their website admit that only 5% of the deaths are covid- which at last count is only 30k total deaths in the US. Meanwhile the 95% deaths are just normal deaths of normal causes which health providers relabel as covid to make more money. It's unbelievable deception and is hard to comprehend. It certainly seems like a strong delusion as the Bible describes.

To make it worse the VAERS database lists the reported deaths of the covid 'vaccine' and it's now up to 11k deaths with nearly a half million negative effects from it. Plus this is underreported since its voluntary so actual numbers could be 10 times this! But this info is being buried and hidden from the media, because its inconvenient to their power and control.

Think of the heartbroken families grieving their loved ones passing simply because they listened and believed what people on TV told them! They were fine, but now they're dead. Plus those vaccinated are getting covid just as much or more than unvaccinated. Plus, they're still forcing vaccinated to wear masks- which promotes bacterial pneumonia. Then, if vaccinated even more vaccines are pushed- like 'variants'. Pharma making billions of it. People have become human lab rats for this untested, unapproved experiment, all based on false assumptions and lies. It's horrifying and sickening!

Now this 666 bill will give CDC and people like Fauci even more power to control you. Is anyone else concerned about this path and think God is allowing satan to deceive the leaders of the US to oppress citizens and ruin this country?

Hi Earl.

I'm going to take your answer to the cherubim to another thread, Hopefully I will see you there, Because Chris who have started this thread asked:

"Was Satan a angel in the beginning and fought for God our fathers throne.

And thus there was a war between Jesus and Satan for the glory?"

We've walked all over him, It's amazing the question went unanswered for about 8 hours while you guys was pitching your views on another thread.

Hello David,

Pastors and church leadership are imperfect sinners like anyone else. Some feel threatened, feel insecure, feel they need to justify their job position to others or to themselves, and sometimes make misguided decisions, and false assumptions.

I don't know the context of the Psalms 41 mention, because in itself there's both positive verses like verse 2, but others could be potentially interpreted as negative. If I were to guess I'd say that pastors may feel pressure to grow the church and is a measure of their job performance and they may feel insecure when someone (especially someone who has been an integral member) leaves, because they may take it personally and goes against their goals.

That being said, pastors leave churches too then rationalize it at the time. Most missionaries are transient and move around to build and encourage churches- not really rooted in one place too long on average. That's what Paul did. I see leaving as a positive thing- new opportunities to serve others, meet a new community and who knows what else God can use you for. To claim that people moving somehow automatically means it's leaving God's house sounds disingenuous and manipulative to me. But I've heard all kinds of logical fallacies used in God's name used to manipulate and cause others guilt. I think this is very wrong. Pastors are in a position of influence and I've unfortunately heard them abuse their power before.

So, I would not let 1 persons opinion and possible insecure comments adversely affect you. It's hard to hear things like that instead of words of appreciation after committing so long to one church.

God bless...

Brother Jesse, everything in Old Testament was witness of the coming of Christ.

Since we call the Old Testament the law and prophets:

I BELIEVE the two witnesses represent the law and prophets, but the law and prophets are made up of dozens and dozens of saints that had they part in the Spirit's WORK.

As for Enoch and Elijah being translated. Scripture only mentions these two, but there could be innumerable, we don't know. These two are our example, as you said, we are translated the same way.

Food for thought, the Spirit reveals.

Richard Estrada

Not saying your picks are wrong some of them may be part of it. There is nothing wrong with searching for the truth. But more importantly, us being ready when Jesus comes. There are a lot of teachings out there and some are misleading. Doctrines are made by using prophecies that have been fulfilled, confusing great tribulation with the wrath of God, and more.

Have we exalted the last of the Christians more worthy to be saved from tribulation than 2000 years of Christians who were beheaded, burned alive, and more horrible deaths than we can even imagine, all of them dying in faith for Jesus' sake, they endured to the end?

Why should we be better than them? Matthew 23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

The beast comes out of the bottomless pit, a king, the angel of the bottomless pit whose name means destruction. Angels are locked in chains of darkness until the judgment of the great day? These angels defiled the entire creation before the flood and God locked them up. Also, the angels cast out in Revelation 12, we have as Jesus said as the days of Noah, a time of trouble we can not imagine.

If Babylon is a mystery will we know until it is revealed and people are called out of her?

The beast will place himself above not just God our Father, but all gods of all religions, all that is worshiped, with the magnitude of power he will show, and with the false prophet, with sorcery, and power to give life unto the image and cause those to worship the image or be killed.

Since Jesus placed His blood on the holy place in heaven, there is no material temple on earth. Jesus in us, our body is the temple, the dwelling place of God. If a third temple is built, and if God has no use of it, how can there be an abomination of desolation, are people looking for something that cannot be, or has been already?

Just a little, keep studying, let the Holy Spirit be your guide.

RLW

Cynthia M Ogwo,

I can guarantee you that both Enoch and Elijah saw death in their day. If you are not taking into account that the writers are romanticizing their stories, you are being gullible. That's like thinking the sun stood still when that is scientifically impossible. Stop thinking Biblical figures can defy all laws of nature. These prophets slept with their fathers, like David. Discernment is key to keeping fantasy doctrine at bay.

Enoch & Elijah are not the 2 witness, think bigger. Just because anti-christ causes the waters to turn to blood, and the rain is withheld, doesn't mean its the work of Enoch & Elijah. Elijah is called to duty BEFORE the day of the Lord ( Malachi 4:5). The 2 witnesses are the ones in Revelation 7.

Jesse,

Please answer the questions you asked of me, first. Then I will have a better scope of your level.

Ray,

The 1st resurrection = 144k saints from great tribulation live

The 2nd resurrection = Everyone else lives

so does Proverbs 1 24-28 mean that some will wait to long to be able to repent and not be able to find God, including some who may have repented and backslid to long knowing right from wrong and choosing wrong? The way i read this is there will be some who get into trouble and after a life of sin try to find God to get out of trouble but don't really want to repent and so they won't find God. Is this correct?

Okay, Thanks for your spontaneous feedback and you would be preferring too the two oil trees standing before the God of the earth. Amen

Osseas you say it was a man in the garden I say I don't know because the bible doesn't say and I'm not going to guess. In 2 Peter 1:20 or 21 Gods word says the bible is of no private interpretation and the word private is ones own from the word idios, all other subject matters I,ll spitball on but when it comes to Gods word no. L know however Satan presented Himself was convincing enough to hold a conversation and break the only commandment God Gave her and adam.

Hi Earl , I don't know why I think this , I've thought it for a long time and never told anyone before , I have always , from my first reading of it ,thought or felt I'm not sure , that the four awesome creatures at the begining of Ezekiel represented the four Gospels ,Matthew Mark Luke and John , it sounds a bit foolish now I say it out loud , I guess I mean that they represent the Word of God , the Gospel of the Kingdom . Also , I've always thought that when the devil showed Christ all the kingdoms of the world and their glory that Christ saw a vision of all the future kingdoms , the technological advances , the promiscuity , the materialism etc , a lot of the things that many people in this world call "fun" . I'm not saying I'm right about any of these things , they are just my musings ! Hope you didn't laugh too hard !

Just putting this out here who does the Word of God say Jesus Christ came for.