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please continue to keep myself and my daughters Deanna and Jessica and there families lifted up in prayers

Mishael,

Thank you for your inspiring words, but I am not a fanatic to believe supernatural things not promised. It can never be so, that's cheating Hebrews 9:27. 1 Thessalonians 4:17 is a shame it's written so poorly and in conflict with other scriptures. People also believe in a pre-sixth trump rapture, which is impossible. It's safe to say that both resurrections are conflated. so faith is on you.

I cherish the firstfruits, the 144k saints out of the great tribulation and symbolically featured in heaven. These are the ones Jesus has chosen as His bride. Why would Jesus sully the wedding to those not worthy? Even though there's a case for a lifting up, the #'s would require more accommodations, hence the new heaven and new earth, hence the rest can wait for the 2nd resurrection.

I have lots of questions about what happens between the seventh trumpet and thousand years.

Your last comments, Gertrude, I'm with you. Bad as it is, the USA taxpayers cannot make dreams come true with empty pockets.

There is so much happening at once, there is no way people can say Jesus is not coming for His Church...His Bride, soon.

Hang in there, praise and worship our Glorious Jesus more. He's taking Center Stage sooner than we try to calculate. If HE doesn't post it on Twitter or Facebook,

Let's be wise enough to be found doing what he told us to do. Matthew 25

God loves you and so do I

OSEAS, you will freak out over this website: WatchForTheDay dot org

He is a Jewish mathematician that teaches 20 miles a minute; with Charts. I saw one of his videos on YouTube.

I'm old so I remember many of the date things he has posted on charts. I have eidetic memory. His rapid fire speech short-circuited my brain. I mainly just want to look at his charts.

I had heard blood moons deal with Israel, and Solar Eclipses deal with Nations. Someone once said: America (like we rule earth?). So I thought wow, God has his hell-fire helicopters pointed at USA. Not!!! Prophesy is exciting and serious.

Doing a serious study of scripture takes time. The Holy Spirit leads, and I'm taking furious notes on twists and lead-Ins to additional info: ancestors, ancient country names, cities. I'm on a break, after that.

See what you think.

Ronald L Whittemore,

Don't be afraid to voice your opinion about what has not yet happened. Most of us have read it hundreds of times without knowing the answers are staring back at us. We have clews about who the beast & Babylon are, we claim these are the end times, but we can't identify these 2 end time powers? Nothing wrong with trying to understand the mystery. I will throw my hat in on what I think about daily.

The beast = Russia, China, India, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Sudan, Libya, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Egypt.

Mystery Babylon = US; Babylon merchants: Canada, UK, Europe, Israel, Japan, Australia

( Isaiah 47) ( Revelation 18) is US's fate as Mystery Babylon

( 2 Thessalonians 2:4) the beast sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

The US has fallen therefore Israel was easily invaded and taken captives. ( Luke 21:20-24)

Oseas.

Please answer the question Chris asked.

""Was Satan a angel in the beginning and fought for God our fathers throne.

And thus there was a war between Jesus and Satan for the glory?""

You disrespectfully disregarded his question!! And used the opportunity to promote your beliefs. You've had your chance and will continue to have it, Let him have his, This question may mean something to him.

God bless.

The Holy Spirit is Your TEACHER

The desire for Jesus is in you already. The Bible is the Word of God. Like these following scriptures show us: with your own spoken words, ask the Holy Spirit to make His home within your heart, To be your Teacher. Thats his ministry to you. You will know He is teaching you. Open your mouth and speak: "Holy Spirit, come alongside and teach me what this passage means?"

Begin in the Gospels and stay in there until you know who Jesus is to you; what he likes; doesn't like; listen to his replies to people. How does he love?

John 14:26

But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remem-brance, whatsoever I have said to you.

Luke 12:12

For the Holy Ghost shall TEACH you in the same hour what ye ought to say.

2 Timothy 2:24

And the servant of the Lord must NOT strive; but be GENTLE unto all men, APT TO TEACH, PATIENT,

1 Timothy 6:3-4

If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,

If we often reprove our own children; point out errors, short comings, lazy worthless etc. Their hearts will be hardened, and stolen by the Devil. Don't be that kind of teacher.

THE FRUIT OF THE HOLY SPIRT

Galatians 5: 22-23

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

1 Corinthians 13: 12-13

What Kids Want: Transparency.

NOW we see through a glass, DARKLY, but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I AM KNOWN. And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is Love.

Mishael

The seventh trumpet is synonymous with ( 1 Thessalonians 4:17) ( Revelation 11:12) and several others that mark the completion of prophesy.

Past the seventh trumpet, we have a devil in a cage that's let loose for a "little season", with a sand of the sea army, so the earth is still a shady place.

OSEAS,

There are several ways to look at this scripture. It is wrapped in mystery that's not easily meant to see. Esoteric in nature. I can only take the essence of the story and see how fits & splits between Jesus' and satan's earthly ministries. You have to think your way through it, it could take years, some you'll never know. God is going to make you work for what he previously has spelled out in allegory.

Daniel 9:27 allegory makes me envision the beast army forewarning its Babylon attack, thinking about placing the abomination that makes desolate (smart missiles) ( Joel 2:4-11) ( Isaiah 47) ( Revelation 18). This sixth trumpet, surprise event begins anti-christ's 3.5 year reign.

( Daniel 9:27) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

RICHARD CRAFT

Yes, you are right, The kingdoms of this world (this Devil's world, the same the Devil offered in the temptation) are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

And the nations will be angry, because all their structures, politic, and religious, and economic, cultural, social, among others, will be DISSOLVED, and destroyed by GOD. The Word is GOD. Is it written? Then will fulfill LITERALLY, and it will be from now on.

Be careful and get ready

Stop tripping u will give yourself a heart attack

SALLY

Meditate in this: 1 Corinthians 15:v.47 - The first man is of the earth, earthy;...

And in this: 2Peter 2:v.12 - 12 But these, as natural BRUTE BEASTS, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

And John the Baptist preached: ... He that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from above is above all. John 3:v.31

Dianne,

There are 2 resurrections:

1st resurrection: The 144k saints are out of great tribulation, from all nations and tongues. Not all saints are killed by the beast, not all saints lay dead for 3.5 days. From the way 1 Thessalonians 4:17 is phrased, you could easily believe the first resurrection is for you, but the depictions in heaven identify the 144k only. Below describes saints in heaven, not sinners:

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

2nd resurrection: After the 1,000 years the rest lived.

( Ezekiel 37:1-14)

I have written unto you because you must know that no lie is of the truth.

Isaiah 16:v. 16-22

16 Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the REFUGE OF LIES, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.

18 ... when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.

19 From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report.

20 For the bed is shorter than that a man can stretch himself on it: and the covering narrower than that he can wrap himself in it.

21 For the Lord shall rise up as in mount Perazim, he shall be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon, that he may do his work, his STRANGE work; and bring to pass his act, his STRANGE act.

22 Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth.

EARL BOWMAN

You are 100% correct when you say: "You (we, say I) are not created in God's image until you(we) are BORN AGAIN by SPIRIT. Before that you are in Satan's image (dust, flesh). EARL, what you said is PERFECT, YEAH, PERFECT. The ONLY ONE who was/is not born from Satan and in his image, THIS IS JESUS.

"The crooked serpent" (snake), in the expression or conception of the language it is a product of the earth: Genesis 1:v.24 - Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and CREEPING thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. The MYSTERY is how the Power worked in the process of production of this kind of living creatures. On the other hand, in the spiritual conceptions it is more easy to understand how they are produced among us.

You said: "and man were FORMED, not created". Yes, acccording Genesis 2:v.7 combined with Job 33:v.6. Gen.2:v.7 - 7 And the Lord God formed man of the DUST of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. That said, it seems be more easy to understand why GOD said to Satan (not to a snake): thou art CURSED above all cattle, and above every beast of the field (the field is the world); upon thy belly (womb) shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: This DUST of the earth-I mean the men- has been the serpent's food until today through the procreation in all generations, and the World of the Devil has gotten until the current time.

JESUS said: John 3:v.5-6: 5 ... Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of GOD. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

John 1:v.13 - 3 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. Amen

OASEAS IS A GOOD NAME FOR YOU, on an island to yourself with a strange Bible. These words help me from jumping out the window like a banker.

"What does the Word of GOD say? There was a multitude of angels in the Garden of Eden and there was also a ruler in Eden, a Cherub. They all rebelled against GOD - the Word is GOD - and they corrupted themselves as is wwritten in Jude 1:v.6-7: 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate(celestial/spiritual estate), but left their own habitation (they left their celestial nature), he -GOD- hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the Judgment of this great Day. (the LORD's Day)."

Jude 6 is not speaking of the Lord's day, nor the day of the Lord; this is the last battle is known as:( Revelation 16:14) "....the battle of that great day of God Almighty." It is the same last battle before seventh trumpet judgment as promised to the OT saints in white robes. ( Revelation 6:11) And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. And alas ( Revelation 11:12) And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

"7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner (IN LIKE MANNER OF THE ANGELS IN EDEN), giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE."

Thank you for leading me to Jude. The angels didn't fornicate in the garden of EDEN, angles have no genitalia. Also, I would like for you to take notice, and tell president Bide to stop DACA because it's evil, says so in the Bible.

( Jude 1:8) Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

Brother S Spencer, I have not found anywhere in scripture that describes the cherub as being anything other than flaming swords (the word of God) of fire and the glory of God.

Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God.

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 1:27

James 3.:9

We are made in the image of God.

Thank you sir for the reply. I think ever Christian goes through feelings of inadequacy because not only do we feel Gods love through Jesus sometimes it can be overwhelming to think how we can love him equally. And the answer to that is what you said it's in everything we see in creation in of its own. But even in that though we can't understand the mind of our God. His ways our higher than ours but if it's something we can cling on to is his promise of prosperity, sustainability, and Love but also always being there. I had a horrible day but knowing there's brothers and sisters always praying for the brethren brings me more joy in my heart. I ask how do I love you more Lord ? How do I love others ? Two of the most complicated questions but if we keep seeking we will find all the answers. Living this life is hard but it's a choice I made two years ago and I've understood he has saved me for a reason. I just have to trust him more.

Genesis 1:26

We are formed in the image.

Only God Can JUDGE me.....Since you are so well versed in Scripture then you should know what happens to those who judge others;) They will hate me just as they hated Jesus....if people would have understood what Jesus was telling them they would not have crucified him. Blasphemy against Jesus is forgivable but Blasphemy of the HOLY SPIRIT is not forgivable...Be Humble before the LORD.

DIANNE



You made a wise comment about Lucifer in the Garden of Eden ( Isaiah 14:v.12-15) and according Ez.28:12 to 17.

Yes, you are right, the serpent description is a figure of speech for how sly he operates. I agree. You are correct.

Yes, Eve and Adam, or the Man and the Woman, both were in the garden of Eden. Surely, as you said, "Would Eve be so stupid to converse with a hideous beast or snake, not buying it." In fact was a Man, a Cherub, by analogy, a Man like the two angels which GOD sent to Sodoma and Gomorrah, never, but never, like a snake.

God bless

CHRIS

Greetings in Christ JESUS,

Chris, you brought a biblical deep matter, it is not easy for us to speak about "Satan as an angel"in the mysterious times in the Garden of Eden and with the presence of Adam and Eve or the man and the woman,by the way, there was an Eternity in Eden before this current gap of 7 thousand years or 7 millenniums of this current world of Devil, in part already fulfilled,whose world the crafty Satan,or artful Devil,offered to JESUS in the temptation- Luke 4:v.5 to 8.Check it.

What you said is very very interesting, mainly about "war between Jesus and Satan for the glory?". When JESUS was tempted, the Devil knew that JESUS was the heir of GOD, Satan knew that HIS CURRENT DEVIL'S WORLD would be conquer by JESUS and His army or His people- Revelation 11:v.15 to 18 and chapter 12. In fact, Satan tryed to anticipate and deliver his kingdom to JESUS under his satanic condition, but JESUS rejected the Devil's offer, because JESUS had a strategy in His War against Satan. What did JESUS do?

He called the Devil to be near Him as one of the 12 apostles through the person of Jude Scariots. JESUS needed a betrayer among the 12 apostles. JESUS was and is Omniscient, JESUS knew that Judas was a devil, a demon- John 6:v.70- and JESUS ordened to give the bag of money to Jude-the demon-, he was a thief and did steal the money that was in the bag.

From this point ahead, all know what happened in the life of JESUS having Satan at his side, and to defeat him on the cross. God has his ways in this War against Satan, now remains the battle against the three unclean spirits like frogs that come out of the MOUTH of a satanic trinity in this current time, even from now on: Revelation 16:v.13 to 16.

Be careful and get ready because there will be a great spiritual battle day after day, from now on or in days to come.

Brother S Spencer, may CHRIST IN US, grace us with HIS wisdom and His understanding.

Job 26:13 By His SPIRIT he hath garnished the heavens, His hand hath FORMED the crooked serpent.

Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God FORMED man of the dust of the ground....

Both the crooked serpent and man were FORMED, not created. You are not created in God's image until you are BORN AGAIN by SPIRIT. Before that you are in Satan's image (dust, flesh).

Psalms 104:39 Thou sendest forth thy spirit and they are created: and thou RENEWEST the face of the earth.

You said: He is described AS IF (future tense)

I BELIEVE you are right.

I BELIEVE this is a PROPHESY of what we have been CREATED for; but until we depart this flesh iniquity is still found in us.

Food for thought, the Spirit reveals.

I incourage you to read Rev. 11:15-18.

The 7th angel. And shortly after that,

Well, 7 means complete.

But I could use more knowledge about it. I'm studying this currently.

Brother Earl,

I did it again!! maybe I should spell it.

The perfection is described in verses twelve through fourteen.

Gb.

Hi Marcus

Can't understand your question,

Can you edit it?

God bless.

You all need to watch Kat Kerr talk about the beginning, etc....

She has been going back and forth to heaven since childhood and God showed her His timeline of generations from the beginning. She is the go to Revelator (As God Calls Her). She is anointed to reveal heaven to us all! God led me right to her when I prayed specifically for Him to lead me to people who have been to heaven. Amazing revelations! Do it! You will never be the same guaranteed! Remember, God see's us as His children not His adults.

Brother Earl,

Correction. I meant to say His perfection is described in verses 12 through 14.

God bless, and goodnight.