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"It is our duty to honor God in all our financial matters. If we don't get this first responsibility right, all other areas of financial management become much more difficult. God's Word teaches us a great deal about money and its proper use. God will bless us abundantly when we truly honor Him and trust Him to supply our needs. It is important for us to place God at the forefront of all our financial decisions." -Lynn Cooper

We should all do a study on the importance of wisdom in finances since God's Word has so much to say about this topic!

James 2:10 clearly state "" whosoever shall keep the whole law and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all "" now this leaves room for punishment that fits the crime so to speak , but let us rejoice in His presence and stand as one multostranger as we run this race laid out be4 us with our eyes not behind us but watching the goal of salvation !!!!! I love my people in Christ Jesus hallelujah hallelujah david hump

Matthew 7

24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the SAND:

27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

Father God in the Name of Jesus ...Lord i pray Thee that you will save these 2 men and deliver them from the desire to do drugs and the evil spirits that bind them in Jesus Name we pray. Father God we give you all the Glory and Praises Amen and Amen

Earl Bowman,

I beg to differ that Babylon is an literal nation, with a king ( Jeremiah 50/51). Take Revelation 17, it showcases the two end-time powers, Babylon & the beast. They both fight each other and the beast emerges victorious to create a one religion, one world govt. Now look at Ezekiel 38 and how Israel (both houses) are soundly defeated by Gog. God commissions the beast to destroy His sinful people, Israel, that is a fact. It is no stretch of the imagination to see that Ezekiel 38 & Revelation 17 parallels Israel and Babylon, they are interchangeable, and both are defeated in the same manner.

Modern day Israel lost their identity and have effectively become Babylon. If the US makes a bad military decision, they bomb Russia's ally, that's a recipe for disaster. This surprise attack will be as real as WWI or WWII, and people will die by the billions. The US has no way to stop hypersonic weapons. 1 Sarmat missile can destroy a land mass the size of Texas. 1 Poseidon torpedo can bring a 150 foot tsunami wave to either coast. These weapons will be used to sink Mystery Babylon/Babylon in under 1 hour. anti-christ will control every stronghold for a time.

Have you ever read any WWII stories about devout Christian's? Some thought Hitler was antichrist, they were obviously wrong. But now, in our time, we are convinced, as they were in the 40's, that these are the end-times. Some even thought the 6 day war was going to bring about Jesus. The point is, we live in the physical world, and for us to get to where we are going, we need space and time to merge. Also, our leaders are very much aware of Biblical prophesy, they go out of their way to fulfill it to their advantage. Let's say the Bible had a completely different prophetic narrative, you'd better believe our leaders would follow that alternative narrative to the letter. Our civilization is headed towards the gates of hades, and we have front row seats.

I don't believe that our loved ones and friends that have passed on, to be with God, can see anything that happens here on earth. God says," There will be no tears/sadness in heaven." But if they could could see the things happening on earth ,there would be lots of tears and sadness.

Brother Jesse, The Kingdom of God is like a treasure HIDDEN in a field.

We all have to keep digging.

The more of us digging and sharing edifies us all.

Truths just continue to be found. Sometime it is just a key that unlocks the next dig.

None of us have all of the keys.

I've had to repent hundreds of times to what I thought to be TRUTH when a new key was in opposition to my belief. I will gladly do so again.

There's GOLD, so let's KEEP DIGGING.

Workmen rightly dividing the word of God.

Inerray ? What is that please ?

We are of the seed of Adam...Adam due to his and his wife's fall in the garden become sinful...disobedient unto God..therefore every man ever born since then...has been born into sin...we are born with lost souls.. God says in His Word that if we are not of Him, we are in fact a child of the devil..we are ALL God's children...but not ALL children of God....Free will was given to man as God would not force anyone to love and follow Him...Cain had free will and he chose to allow his jealousy (natural emotion for mankind, but not of God) over his brother become more important in his life than being pleasing in God's sight...His pride led him to murder his own brother and sin against a Holy and Righteous God...that loved him!

Dear OSEAS,

"The battle of Armageddon is to happen now BEFORE CHRIST's COMING,against three unclean spirits like frogs: Rev. 16:v.13-16"

Oh boy, I'm having a hard time believing that the 3 evil spirits engage NOW in the last battle, BEFORE Christ returns. It is my understanding that Christ defeats the sixth trumpet beast army ( Revelation 6:13-21) at His coming.

Brother Jesse, I would be interested on you take on the prophesy in Isaiah 9.

Verse 5 refers to this battle.

To which battle is this referring.

Gods word says in the book of Psalms that above all Gods created works sun moon stars planets us he magnified His word above all of it, thats how perfect Gods Word is as it was originally given remember every jot and tittle wiil be done and what God has said will happen will happen thats why Gods word also says that God is not a man that He should lie and in Romans all men lie and fall short of the Glory of God. Just some food for thought, have an inspired day. P.S. If as some would say that the Bible is not Infallably Gods word than our belief system and our Total redemption and forgiveness is at best in question or not true, since I'm a born again believer and have partaken of several miracles in my life not the least is being born again and receiving power from on High I.E. Holy spirit then, the problem is never with the Giver God its with the recipient man whether he chooses to believe Gods Word or not. P.S. Same Problem in Eden God Said Thall Shalt surely Die serpent said No your not. Thats always the choice either what Gods word says or what men say, sometimes inspired by wrong source. Remember the only perfect man that ever walked perfectly with God Is our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Amen

Abraham was the beginning of the Jewish nation!

Brother Spencer,

I misspelled his last name. It is Ries. But it looks like you found him okay on the web. His testimony is powerful, as you listened to it. I'm not sure if you will find anything about his dad, but I can share a little from what I remember in his book. It's been over 10 years since I read it. But as you know, Raul grew up involved in gangs and he was a very violent person. I think the Lord had plans for him for sure. He married a Christian lady but his violent behavior eventually led to her leaving with their children. He came home from drinking and she was gone.

If I remember him saying in the book, he couldn't take that she and the kids were leaving and he was about to end his own life. He went into a rage and started smashing up everything in the house. When he went to smash the TV, it came on and it was Pastor Chuck Smith.

Anyway, he started watching Chuck Smith and ended up surrendering his life to Christ. He started his own church and his ministry took off. But his dad was a non-believer and wanted nothing to do with the Lord. This tore at Raul's heart for many years. Here he was as the Pastor of a large church leading many people to Christ, and yet he could never get through to his dad. Several years went by and Raul wanted so much for his dad to come to his church knowing that it would never happen.

But one day, totally unexpected, at the end of one of Raul's sermons, he gave an alter call for anyone wanting to come up to receive Christ. There was a long line that came up and half way through the line, his dad comes forward. The way Raul tells it in his book will make you cry. He didn't even know his dad was sitting in the congregation, and he never expected to see his dad show up, an abusive dad who wanted nothing to do with the Lord. But there he was sitting there. He came to see his son. It must have been a powerful sermon. It's so awesome how the Lord works and how powerful His word is!

Jesse,

I have found the teachings of OSEAS to be oddly inaccurate for my taste. When I told him who the lead tribes of the house of Israel were ( Genesis 48:12-22 emphasis on vs 19), he freaked out, calling me "evil". He is also talking about an active beast before the falling away, and another beast afterwards. Each beast has 3.5 years in antichrist's kingdom. That would be fine, except anti-christ is revealed only when he destroys Babylon, not before. There's more that rubs me wrong, but it's fair game in the open market, and par for this course.

Genesis 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

Since the NKJV does not give all the honor to God that He deserves by capitalizing personal pronouns referring to God, I hereby withdraw my offer to be a volunteer for your organization.

Respectfully, Paul Coupland

Brother Oseas, May God bless you. Christ warns us against judging ( Matt. 7:1). We are all on this discussion page to share and enlighten each other in an atmosphere of love with diplomacy, not in condescending warnings and hasty assessments of a fellow believer's level of knowledge or intent.

Strongs is the oldest and one of the most highly respected concordances in all of Christendom. I would like to direct you to the Strongest Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, 21st Century Edition, in the Hebrew section, entry 3611, to the word keleb, which is the transliteration of the Hebrew word from which the word "dog" is translated in Deuteronomy 23:18. The various definitions are: "dog, by extension of a person of low status, a dead dog, an immoral person; male prostitute." I chose the definition of male prostitute because the word "dog" is used in Deuteronomy 23:18 next to the word "whore," and the simultaneous use of both terms indicates bedroom immorality. Also, there is strong contextual evidence in the preceding verse, Deuteronomy 23:17, which prohibits women from being prostitutes and males from being sodomites.

Also, if you read the post carefully, I never stated that the word dog referred to white collar crime, theft, etc. Rather, they were all listed as sources of "dirty money."

Brother, if you google "what were male prostitutes called in the Bible" you will find the words kadesh and keleb, the last of which I cited above. Also, you might want to consult online commentaries about Deuteronomy 23:18. Have a blessed day.

Pam J,

You are wasting your time asking God to prolong the agony. Destroying Babylon will not be saved, or put off.

MYSTERY BABYLON, THE MOTHERS OF HARLOTS

May CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

John wrote these words 1900 hundred years ago. It could be another 2000 years or more until the second resurrection, NO ONE KNOWS. These words have to have the same meaning to all who read them; whatever time (1900 years ago or 2000 years from now) they themselves are in.

Babylon REPRESENTS something, it is not literal.

Judah was taken into captivity by Babylon because they LOVED the world more than they loved God.

It is no different TODAY we LOVE the world more than we love God.

We (creation) are a HARLOT OF BABYLON because we have left our FIRST LOVE (our husband, Christ) and dote on the things of the world.

We to are a captive of Babylon.

Jesus came to set the CAPTIVES free (liberty in Christ).

Revelation 18:4 And I heard a voice in heaven, saying, COME OUT OF HER, my people....

Come back to your HUSBAND. Become ONE.

You must DIE (first death) to the world, you must give YOUR LIFE for CHRIST as he gave HIS LIFE FOR YOU.

Colossians 1:27 ... mystery of the ages.... CHRIST (who ONLY hath immortality) IN YOU, the hope of glory.

Philippians 2:5 Let THIS MINE be in you, which was also IN CHRIST JESUS:

Philippians 2:6 Who being in the form (image) of GOD, thought it not robbery to be EQUAL WITH GOD.

Christ and the Father are ONE.

John 17:21 That they ALL BE ONE, as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be ONE IN US: that the world MAY BELIEVE that thou has sent me.

Jesus told Judah (his chosen) that they would DIE in Babylon.

Paul said, I DIE DAILY.

ARE YOU ON YOUR DEATH BED?

OSEAS,

I have never heard anyone teach that the word Armageddon is a compound word consisting of three parts (Air/Magog/Heddon). You're the first. It doesn't even break it down that way in the Hebrew. Revelation 16:16 tells us that the word Armageddon comes from the Hebrew tongue (language). In the Hebrew tongue, it is HAR-MEGIDDON, not AIR-MAGOG-HEDDON. HAR means valley, so my understanding would be that this is talking about the valley of MEGIDDO, a physical place on this earth where this future battle takes place. Reading through Revelation chapter 16, especially at verse 14, I see that the whole point of it all is that Satan is going through all this trouble to bring about a one world government, one world religious system, and one world economic system. It's so he can unify everybody under his control so that at the second coming of Christ, he will be in control of them to get them over to the valley of MEGIDDO to fight against the Lord at His second coming.

GOG is the word that the Jews use for all people who are the enemies of Israel. All of Israel's enemies are called GOG. MAGOG is the god, or idol of GOG. So when Satan is loosed out of his prison after the thousand year reign of Christ, he will go out and deceive the nations (GOG and MAGOG) to gather them together for one final battle.

That's my understanding. It doesn't quite match up with what you're saying. I've been following your conversation you've been having with Earl and some of the things I'm reading don't seem quite right. Either it's me just not comprehending what is being said, or the Lord is not allowing me to comprehend it for my own protection? I like to think it's the latter!

Brother Jesse,

I found material on Raul Ruiz on the web,

I listened to his testimony, Great testimony. I will research more on his Dad.

Thanks.

That's awesome....

God is good to me

The bible says that God said "Haven't I said that ye are gods?" the key is little "g". But we do not and will not become God. Jesus said that bigger and better things than he we will do, but still does not make us God.

OSEAS,

There is no such thing as the battle of Armageddon. Armageddon is a gathering place prior to Christs return, where Gog sees Christ standing on Mount Olives, and comes down to get slaughtered in Israel, in the Kidron Valley. The name of the battle is couched in Revelation 16:14. Its "The battle of that great day of God Almighty". Why does everyone make their own story up, and not follow the Word of God?

Some food for thought Almighty God is the also the God of freedom of will or choice but also the God of all order. That being said all of His Created works whether Spiritual beings ie. angels good or bad because all angels are messengers of light or darkness. God being all powerful and perfect as was original creation, Genesis !:1 all creation was perfect. In Genesis 1:2 in the original text the word was is became which changes a lot of things, also agrees with The scripture God is Light and in God is no Darkness at all. Starting in Genisis 1:3 God starts putting back together that which The adversary screwed up it was a cataclysmic event which wiped out the original creation. How much time is involved between Gen.1:1and Gen. 1:2 no one knows but guaranteed it did't happen over night also, people want to get into how old earth is, no man knows but God put it simple In The Beginning Can't beat that. I'll stick with scripture in the God given original text. Again keep something in mind The true God never messes with freedom of will Good Example Adam and Eve. Just food for thought. God Bless

Amen! Oseas.

God bless.

If you Google "Old Earth Theory" (although I do not recommend that),

The whole theory has a large following; lots of books written.

My opinion is that it is HERESY.

How do I know that? One of The Holy Spirit's ministry is, TEACHER. He said: "In Beginning."

I looked through my ancient, to sorta new Bible collection; they all say: IN THE BEGINNING.

The word THE was added to help readers read Genesis 1:1 better. I don't know if it was canonized or was added in later editions.

Guys, if the Holy Spirit says, In Beginning. It means that GOD CREATED TIME, first.

Archaeological finds, carbon dating, DNA analysis, proves the earths age is billions years old. Not 6000 years old. Something big hit the earth and killed everything, except the "conies" which survived the event. Their name is in the Bible. Their carbon date shows by living underground, their date is different.

Scientists have discovered with probes that all the planets had water/ice at one time. But the water evaporated because of heat. All except earth. Only earth has gravity and an ozone that protects us from rays. Very interesting.

The goal of all sciences is to explain 4 Things: Time, Force, Action, Matter (in that order). No one has ever gotten a Nobel Prize for TIME.

They will not solve it until they accept the reality of a Supreme CREATOR.

If you carefully read and contemplate; ask the Holy Spirit to TEACH you, you will see that in Genesis 1:1-2 all those 4 questions are explained.

If you slowly read Romans 1 you will understand as I did, that God made all that we see and know; and comprehend, was put here for us to accept the reality that Big Bang did not do all of this.

THE GODHEAD CREATED IT. Father purposed it, The Word spoke it, the Holy Spirit performed it.

They created everything we see, have learned and know. Beginning with TIME.

Somebody write that book, get rich and give it to the poor. Copy paste this as much as you want.

Mishael

Define Luke 9-62

I need prayers concerning my family that heaven should open. We need money to execute some projects at hand.

Divine healing upon myself and my son

Fruits of the womb

God should destroyed every spirit or any issue or any form of fibroid in my body

God should bring confusion to any strange woman that want to separate me and my husband, they should not understand their language again.