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Amen Jesse Tacker.

I believe that was well put.

God bless.

Brother Vincent,

Interpreting end time prophesy is challengingto say the least, and to attribute an event(s) to a trumpet(s) in revelation is even harder.

You list events that took place recently. Not to say these events you listed aren't earth moving world events, but what about the fall and rise of the many great empires around the world over the past centuries, these were also great events.

Jesus said that only his father knows when the end time will be, and I believe Jesus.

Many past generations also felt as we do today that the end time is right around the cornerand it didn't happen in their time - and it may not happen in our timein reality it could last another day, another year, 10 years, 100 years, or many more.

Mark 13:32

"But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."

We do need to be prepared..because we don't know.none of us knowonly God!

God Bless

I get a little side tracked on some things but John 3:16 says if you believe in Christ you will have ever lasting life. It does not say you have to do anything else. It is very very plain spoken. So what do you all think of that?

Micah 6:8 - He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

John 7:17 - If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.

As we yield our members, servants to obey, we are led by His life in us.

Walking not according to this world, but weighing everying thing in view of eternity.

Christ in you, the hope of GLORY. Not willing that any should perish, we, by HIS GRACE bring light, transforming light must begin.....

..... that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Ephesians 5:17 - Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.

Brother Jesse Tacker, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Hebrews 1:3 Who (Christ) being the brightness of his (the Father's) glory, and the express image of His (the Father's) person, and upholding all things by the word of his (the Father's) power, when he (Christ) by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the majesty on High.

Revelation 3:14 ....The beginning of creation....

Christ was the FIRST MAN and he is GOD. The beginning (the first man) and the ending (the last man).

Psalms 82:6 I (God) have said, Ye are gods, the children of the most high.

John 10:34 Jesus answered them, is it not WRITTEN in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

John 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom (CHRIST IN YOU) the word of God came unto; and the scripture cannot be broken;

Christ is CREATING Sons of God; exactly like him, when he is finished we will be gods just as he is.

Romans 8:29 ....To be conformed to the IMAGE of his Son ....

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be IN YOU which was ALSO IN Christ Jesus, who being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be EQUAL WITH GOD.

The saints cannot rule and judge the world without being EXACTLY like God.

Isaiah 32:1 Behold a king shall reign in righteousness, and princes shall rule in judgement.

Joanna Panzera said "The word of God lives inside of everybody. The hard part is silencing the mind so we can take the time to listen."

Hi Douglas Grahame ,ive not heard of the book of mary however , i believe that the only person who could have told Luke all the details about Jesus birth and early life would have been Mary , who else would have been able to tell Luke so many little details ?

Earl Bowman ,wow ,thankyou for that powerful message ,it struck me like a bolt of lightening .

If according to the Old Testament God the Father created evil, then does it not follow that a part of God's nature contains evilness?

I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and savior. I confess that I am a sinner and ask to be forgiven. I believe he died on the cross for my sins. Amen!!!

I do not believe the bible specifically states Saturday is the Sabbath. But I have also not seen mention of the other specific days of the week (ie. Wed, Thurs. etc.).

The Jewish people have always observed the Sabbath as Saturday. Jesus was a Jew and he observed Saturday/Sabbath as well.

Most everyone in the world will agree that Sunday is the 1st day of the week. Check all of the dictionary's and they will state that Saturday is the last day of the week.

So the last day, or 7th day of the week is Saturday and has been for centuries.

Here in scripture below reference to Jesus preparation for burial prior to Saturday/Sabbath.

Mark 15:42

"And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath,"

Exodus 20:11

"For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it."

Luke 4:16

"And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read."

So God rested on the 7th day, and he gave a gift to us, the 4th Commandment, to also rest our body and mind from our normal weekday working activities, among other things to pray, give thanks and reflect on God. A day to breath! It really is a wonderful gift!

God Bless

C, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Man cannot see himself being something other than what he is now in this flesh.

Flesh and blood CANNOT inherit the next world. We have to be RE-CREATED to inherit the SPIRIT world.

There is no works that we can do to accomplish this.

The WORKS OF CHRIST will bring this about.

John 6:63 It is the Spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you the are SPIRIT, and they (the words that are SPIRIT) GIVE LIFE.

The flesh lives in a world of time, the SPIRIT lives in a world where time does not exist.

In the Old Covenant man was given laws,

One being to observe the seventh day as a day of rest; Physical SABBATH.

When the SPIRIT comes to you and HIS WORDS BECOME words of SPIRIT (life); time is no more:

The SABBATH became SPIRIT and we REST in SPIRIT; or we rest IN CHRIST.

We have ceased from OUR WORKS as he ceased from his works.

Hebrews 10:1 For the law was a shadow (not the real thing) of things to come...

Hebrews 4:10 For he that hath entered into HIS REST, he also hath ceased from his works, as God did from his.

You ARE BEING CREATED IN CHRIST JESUS; it's a GIFT be still and BEHOLD the SALVATION OF GOD.

Had posted a comment earlier not noticing two other posts on same verse 4,wanted to let Debra n Darren know im not saying what there saying is not legitimate,because it is...

The Bible is like no other book, to where

One story has More than One meaning.Then theres Parallels of one story through out.

one person will see one meaning another see's another meaning,or Parallel.then add to it representations of Actuals..

When a person seeks out Gods word,there like tree growing in a field

its All good

Mishael,

Of the 12 tribes, only 3 are Jewish (Benjamin, Levi & Judah), together known as the 'house of Judah'. However, in this case, Judah's 3 sealed tribes have become Jew's for Jesus; Christians. The 144K in scripture are always described as the house of Israel ( Ezekiel 39:12).



No one counted of the 1st resurrection will be left behind; the rest remain asleep. Caught up to Jesus in the clouds happens at the seventh trumpet.

You almost have the order, and will know it better by knowing what happens in the last 3 seals/trumpets. Know events by trumpets. These last 3 trumpets happen close to one another, and why Jesus said this generation will not pass.... When you read about the fall of Babylon, know it's beginning the sixth trumpet (biggest % of prophesy). You would know that ( 2 Thessalonians 2) rests within antichrists sixth trumpet rule. When ( Revelation 16:16) comes to mind, you know the seventh trumpet is about to blow. When Jesus appears in the clouds, know the seventh trumpet is sounding.

We must have had a fifth trumpet to be staring down the sixth, so what was the fifth trumpet? The world drastically changed after 9/11?

Bible. Acts 20:16

[16]For G1063 Paul G3972 had determined G2919 to sail by G3896 Ephesus, G2181 because G3704 he G846 would G1096 not G3361 spend the time G5551 in G1722 Asia: G773 for G1063 he hasted, G4692 if G1487 it were G2258 possible G1415 for him, G846 to be G1096 at G1519 Jerusalem G2414 the day G2250 of Pentecost. G4005.

This is just one of many verses in the New Test that prove that our Father in heaven still keeps the Feast days and they were not done away with as you can see Paul was making his way back to keep Pentecost .

Reading Col 2:16 I came accross a comment which was from six yrs ago and there view was that the Feast days were done away with , all expect the Sabbath day .However the Most High Feast days are not Jewish to begin with, they are as it states in the Bible , The Most Highs Feast days given to the people of Israel to remember him and whatche had done for them.Our Father in Heaven gave them to us in his Holy Bible , not to just the Hebrew people but to anyone who believes him .To the Gentiles also .

The only thing that was nailed to the cross was the Lamb who taketh away the sins of the world , nothing else was nailed to the cross , none of the Feast days .There is no need to sacrifice and the animals on the Feast days of our God as his son was this sacrifice .Verses in Acts sees Paul telling his friends that he must leave and go and be in Jersulem for the Feast day .This is appx 20 yrs after Christ died for our sins .Read for yourself if you do not believe .

Vincent, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

In your studies of Revelation there are things revealed that can be answered by scriptures in other parts of God's word.

Christ SAYS destroy (crucify) this TEMPLE and in three days I will raise it (temple) back up (to life). He was speaking of HIS BODY.

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no TEMPLE therein (new Jerusalem): for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are THE TEMPLE of it.

Colossians 1:27 .... (revealed) MYSTERY ...CHRIST IN YOU...

This says Christ and the Father are the TEMPLE and that that TEMPLE is in you.

1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the TEMPLE of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells IN YOU.

Revelation 15:8 And the TEMPLE (Christ) was filled with the smoke of the GLORY OF GOD, and from his power; and NO MAN was able to enter in to the TEMPLE (CHRIST IN YOU), till the seven plagues of the seven angels were FULFILLED.

When Christ was on the cross, the seven plagues of the seven angels were POURED out on him; God wrath for all mankind was poured out ON HIM.

WE can now ENTER the TEMPLE OF GOD (Christ in you).

The seven seals, the seven plagues, the seven trumpets, the seven vials were FULFILLED at CHRIST DEATH AND RESURRECTION.

Every time a person comes to the TRUTH of Christ in you (new Jerusalem) descends from God and LIVES IN YOU.

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first were passed away, and there was no more sea.

Revelation 21:3 And I heard a voice out of heaven saying, Behold the tabernacle (TEMPLE) is with men (CHRIST IN YOU) is with men, and he shall dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself (CHRIST IN YOU) shall be with them, and be their God.

Revelation 1:3 ....For the TIME IS AT HAND (now, today)

Revelation 22:10 ....For the TIME IS AT HAND (now, today)

God said wars and famine and pestilence and death would be happening all around us while his WORDS WERE BRING FULFILLED IN MAN.

Bro. Dan you are so right just believing is not enough , The Devil believes and is not saved. The truth is he chooses us we do not chose him .

Man is not God. And you won't find that in the bible. The Creator entered into His creation in the form of a man. And is now at the right hand of God the Father. Man is not God. Men don't become God, nor is God in man. Nor are men God. God is only in you if you are born again. Otherwise your father is the devil. You won't find a single verse in the bible having anything to do with becoming God or man being God. We do become "like God" if you are part of Christ's body, meaning you were born again after Jesus' death but before the Great Tribulation.

Brother dan, may christ in us grave us with his wisdom and his understanding.

matthew 7:18-24

christ is the tree, we are the fruit.

without him we can do nothing.

we are the pot he is the potter.

we are dead in christ.

he is our life.

all the woks are christ.

psalms 104:30 thou sendeth forth thy spirit (christ), they are created (no works of us): thou renewest the face of the earth.

christ in you: thanks be to our god for the works of christ.

believing god's words is all it takes.

My Question Is. (1) What traits of peter's faith during his time learning from Jesus are admirable. Which needed further growth. (2) What should the Christian response be when skeptics try to rationalize away the miraculous works Jesus performed. Thank You.

Brother Earl. I thank you for your correction. Each one teach one.

I've should of looked back at the chapter and vrs. Before I spoke. That's what's good about the body of Christ. "One limb can help the other.

Brother Alex,

Just believing is not enough, we need to take action, and follow Jesus and be a "good tree" that produces "good fruit". If we are believing in Jesus and producing good fruit.we may get to heaven. Just believing is not enough according to Jesus, see below scripture:

Matthew 7: 18-24

18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock

Happy Sabbath Day and God Bless

I have grown up to belive that Sunday is the sabbath day ,now some are saying that Saturday is the sabbath day ,can you show me in the bible where it states the named day of the sabbath by God.

Thank You

Brother Misheal,

Not easy to predict the end time events

You stated:" they wore breastplates the color of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur (national colors of China)"

The color of sapphire is normally Blue.

China's flag is Red and Yellow. So not sure where you see the relevance

I enjoy reading all of your posts, and this one reminds me today on Saturday, the Holy Sabbath Day:

Mark 13:32

"But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."

Happy Sabbath Day!

God Bless

For a reader of the book of Revelation,it can really help,when you understand the Principles of how its wrote.

It Reveals All,from the beginning of time to the end.Differant realms,things visible n invisible to mankind,Representations and Actualities. Some are Unveiled mysteries,meaning humans wont know exactly until it happens,then its aahh...

In one condensed book..That is whats happening now,its here..

A example of what mentioned would be like in verse 4.John see's two olive tree's and two candle sticks.

The olive tree's and candle sticks,are/were actual physical representations of two actual physical people,not humans,in a differant realm.

Jesus said my Father that gave them me is greater then ALL and no man is able to pluck them outta of my Father's HAND. So if your salvation has been initiated by his WORD HIS VOICE THE LIVING WORD you cannot fallaway simply b/c his Word cannot return unto him Void Isaiah 55 : 11 It has to prosper in what it was sent to accomplished which is eternal life. Even in the natural a BIRTH cannot be reversed. Thats y he always refered to himself as the SON OF MAN MEANS MANKIND IS GONNA BIRTH A BABY CHRIST. Which is that Child of PROMISE the H.G. A LIVING BEING. The H.G. Jesus said to them that hath shall more be given not they might lose what they have been given via hearing his Word that eternal seed his Word etc. Jesus himself was preaching OSAS when he said my Father that gave them ME is greater then ALL and no man can pluck them outta of my FATHERS HANDS.

The devil would not allow any of us to be saved/born again...However its not his choice its our choice and if we choose God satan cant stop that though he may try it....You gave your life to the Lord and now draw closer to God as much as you can and He will protect you..lead you and keep you. God has all power over the enemy..over satan and this is why satan will not ever really win because his time is short and we know he loses. Just keep Praising God ..grow close to God in prayers and fasting ..if you dont know how there are a few different kind but I would seek God on what He wants you to do and how to do it. My prayer is you will endure til the end... like a baby we all start on the bottle of milk and end up growing up so its 1 day at a time. If you fall Repent and keep going.

God doesn't unfold his end-game so fast.

The first trumpet was WWI

The second trumpet was WWII

The third trumpet was Korea

The fourth trumpet was Vietnam

The sixth trumpet is fall of Babylon

The seventh trumpet return of Jesus Christ

Have you seen the fifth trumpet?

Please keep Kristie and myself in your prayers today,