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Melvin,

When Jesus died on the cross, it wasn't just symbolism. It wasn't just the physical pain. He literally experienced the punishment for our sins, what it would be like to spend eternity separate from God. And it is Jesus crying out like everybody's going to be if they reject Christ. God, where are you? I'm in this darkness, in this pain. Jesus literally experienced our punishment.

Oh no, I did not say what you thought that I said. Note that I focused the generations of MANKIND, I meant from Adam until our days, I did not refer on creation of planet Earth.

Adam and his human nature did appear after the fall of the ruler of Eden and the multitude of angels which followed him- Genesis 6:v.1-12 and Jude 1:v.6-7. So God decided to destroy the man He had created from the face of the earth through a flood of waters upon the earth, and to destroy all flesh, where the breath of life was, from under heaven; and everything that was on earth should perish in the flood waters.

By the way, in the year 1.556 after Adam, Noah was five hundred years old, and GOD said for him to build the Ark. In the year 1.656 after Adam, even in the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, in this same day a flood of waters began to fall upon the earth.

For your better understand, and also for all readers, according biblical Chronology, we can number our days, beginning in Genesis chapter 5, as follow:

Adam lived .................................... 130 yrs and begat Seth

Seth lived 105 yrsand begatEnosh;

Enosh lived ........................................90yrsand begatKenan;

Kenanlived.........................................70yrsand begatMahalalel;

Mahalalellived ....................................65yrsand begatJared;

Jaredlived ........................................162yrs and begatEnoch;

Enochlived .........................................65yrsand begatMethuselah

Methuselahlived.................................187yrsand begatLamech;

Lamechlived.....................................182yrsand begatNoah;

FromNoahs birthuntilthe Flood.........600 yrs.

Total of years fromAdam tothe Flood=1,656 yrs.

I work with the Word of God.Notice that the table above is proved by the Word of God, it is not human theories or human speculations or conjectures.

What does only begotten mean to you? In your heart of hearts, what does it mean? What does sons of God mean to you? What does the glory of God mean to you? Jesus Christ is in the Father. "I and my Father are one. If you have seen the Father ,you have seen the Son"! "My kingdom is not of this world".

Baptism of The Holyspirit.

Part 3. with corrections.

We see the work of the spirit through the baptism of the Holyspirit in Ephesians.

Often people debate if baptism by water is essential for salvation as well as can you loose your salvation. if what's mentioned in Ephesians is not present in your life it's possible you never had salvation.

Everyone dipped in water wasn't internally cleaned, never was the old man crucified and no evidence of the New Man.

Fruitless , Still dead in trespass and sins!!

BECAUSE WATER BAPTISM IS JUST AN CEREMONIAL OUTWARD EXPRESSION OF WHAT SHOULD HAVE TAKEN PLACE ONCE AND IF YOU ( TRULY) BELIEVED.

Did you notice Verse 5?

Ephesians 4:4-5. There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

5) "One Lord, one faith, ONE BAPTISM,"

Does that mean water baptism and Baptism of the Holyspirit is one of the same? NO!

JOHN SAYS HE BAPTIZED WITH WATER BUT CHRIST WILL BAPTIZE YOU WITH THE HOLYSPIRIT!!

Water baptism is a ceremonial profession of your faith.

And "IF" your profession was real only then you will see spiritual growth through feeding on the word.

No longer tossed to and fro by strange doctrine. Trying to understand scripture through the wisdom of the world, so called "common sense" fleshly minds, God's word will be written on your Fleshly Tables of the heart. Not a heart of stone!! This in the inner Man!! and A New life!

Not to perfection but A true heart pursuing it.

And God Judge the heart.

GOD BLESS.

Baptism of The Holyspirit.

We see the work of the spirit through the baptism of the Holyspirit in Ephesians.

Of people debate if baptism by water is essential for salvation as well as can you loose your salvation. if what's mentioned in Ephesians is not present in your life it's possible you never had salvation.

Everyone dipped in water wasn't internally cleaned, never was the old man crucified and no evidence of the New Man.

Fruitless , Still dead in trespass and sins!!

BECAUSE WATER BAPTISM IS JUST AN CEREMONIAL OUTWARD EXPRESSION OF WHAT SHOULD HAVE TAKEN PLACE ONCE AND IF YOU ( TRULY) BELIEVED.

Did you notice Verse 5?

Ephesians 4:4-5. There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

5) "One Lord, one faith, ONE BAPTISM,"

Does that mean water baptism and means the same? NO!

JOHN SAYS HE BAPTIZED WITH WATER BUT CHRIST WILL BAPTIZE YOU WITH THE HOLYSPIRIT!!

Water baptism is a ceremonial profession of your faith.

And "IF" your profession was real only then you will see spiritual growth through feeding on the word.

No longer tossed to and fro by strange doctrine. Trying to understand scripture through the wisdom of the world, so called "common sense" fleshly minds, God's word will be written on your Fleshly Tables of the heart. Not a heart of stone!! This in the inner Man!! and A New life!

Not to perfection but A true heart pursuing it.

And God Judge the heart.

GOD BLESS.

The road that leads to salvation is made of gold. How you find it ,waits right in front of you!

Baptism of the Holyspirit.

Part 2.

Ephesians 4:16-32. FROM WHOM THE WHOLE BODY FITLY JOINED TOGETHER AND COMPACTED BY THAT WHICH EVERY JOINT SUPPLIETH, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, MAKETH INCREASE OF THE BODY UNTO THE EDIFYING OF ITSELF IN LOVE.

This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,

Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.

But ye have not so learned Christ;

If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:

THAT YE PUT OFF CONCERNING THE FORMER CONVERSATION THE OLD MAN, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;

( AND BE RENEWED IN THE SPIRIT OF YOUR MIND;)

AND THAT YE PUT ON THE NEW MAN, WHICH AFTER GOD IS CREATED IN RIGHTEOUSNESS AND (TRUE HOLINESS.)

Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: (FOR WE ARE MEMBERS ONE OF ANOTHER.)

Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:

Neither give place to the devil.

Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

AND GRIEVE NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD, (WHEREBY YE ARE SEALED UNTO THE DAY OF REDEMPTION.)

Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:

And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

ALLL THIS WORK IS ACCOMPLISHED "THROUGH" THE SPIRIT BY BAPTISM OF THE HOLYSPIRIT.

SEE PART 3

There is going to be a wedding!

This wedding you are all invited!

The day has come ,He will come as he left, In the clouds ,so the whole world at one time will see Him!

The church is whom He comes for!

Which 1? How many? many?

Which one is determined by you!

His church is not made with hands, this temple of God He speaks of is within you!

The oil that shines this light is what you must have.

Your lamp must be ready and full. This oil is the faith that will provide the light to the door !You cannot enter without it, Your light must shine when He comes!

Oh virgin of faith, He comes for you! Will you be ready? My beloved do u here His word?

Part 1.

BAPTISM OF THE HOLYSPIRIT.

An ( INWARD) WORK OF GOD through the Holyspirit Identifying us with the death and resurrection of Christ.

WATER BAPTISM.

An ( OUTWARDLY) testimony expressed by you testifying you believe what's mentioned above is to be true and a work of God.

Here's the work of the baptism of the Holyspirit spirit ( IF YOU TRULY BELIEVE)

You will see the death and resurrection and newness of life in these verses!

Ephesians 4:1-15. I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,

With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;

Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

One Lord, one faith, "ONE BAPTISM,"

One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, AND IN YOU ALL.

But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

Wherefore he saith, When he ASCENDED up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.

(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also DESCENDED first into the lower parts of the earth?

He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, THAT HE MIGHT FILL ALL THINGS.)

AND HE GAVE some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, FOR THE EDIFYING OF THE BODY OF CHRIST:

Till we all come in the UNITY of the faith, and of the KNOWLEDGE of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

THAT WE HENCEFORTH BE NO MORE CHILDREN, TOSSED TO AND FRO, AND CARRIED ABOUT WITH EVERY WIND OF DOCTRINE, BY THE SLEIGHT OF MEN, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

BUT SPEAKING THE TRUTH IN LOVE, MAY GROW UP INTO HIM IN in ALL THINGS, WHICH IS THE HEAD, EVEN CHRIST:

SEE PART 2.

Hiya Bro. Earl , GBU yes i pretty much agree with what you are saying, As the scriptures speak of the Regeneration of the H.G. Which is multiplication of the H.G. I believe HIS BLOOD was applied to ALL MEN NO MATTER HOW SINFUL. There is no limit to the strength of his BLOOD. IN Adam we all died , But in Christ we will ALL live .The scripture does not refer to him as the 2 nd Adam for nothin . Just as the curse of 1 ST. Adam was applied to All men . The blood of that 2 nd Adam has to be applied TO ALL MEN, No exceptions , If i be lifted up I WILL DRAW ALL MEN UNTO ME . Scrip. says he wd stain ALL HIS RAIMENT ( with his blood/word ) We are All his raiment , He was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood thats the world as God so loved the world etc Abide in me and i in you . i was naked and you cloth me. The scrip. says his arm is not too short that he cannot reach ALL THE WORLD . But our old adamic nature, satans spirit is gonna be burnt to ashes. By his baptism of fire. Its our old man that answers to the dog that returns to his vomit and the sow that returns to her mud, Thats our old man that is not gonna make it as he is rank with satan. If thy right hand offend thee cut it off thats the old adamic nature, our old innerman . And thats y we must be bornagain of an incorruptible seed even by the words of God that new covenant, God said he wd know them ALL from the least to the greatest IN THE NEW COVENANT. Behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the WORLD . David saw ALL the world at rest and full of his GLORY. In Adam we all die but in Christ that 2 nd Adam we will ALL live. gbu Earl

We have all been there at some point in this Christian journey. Don't give up. Find a quiet place where you can be alone with the Lord and let him speak to your heart.

Mishael, I want to thank you for all your comments, as the Holy Spirit is using your words (and the words of others) to draw me closer to God and to Scripture. Bless you! I was drawn out of the occult as well. My mother was very into astrology, and I slipped into it, even began Tarot, etc. But nothing touched me as deeply as the washing of the water of the Word. I was saved in a Zen Buddhist monastery, in the middle of doing a Korean mantra, Christ came to me. I have never been the same since. That was 35 years ago. Praise God! During this year of "Covid" I have gotten so much closer to the Lord, through his Word, and through prayer. And I feel very called to intercessory prayer, more than to anything else. I keep getting images in the spirit of a Sword, and of Bows, shooting my bows, and of the armour of God... I work in a public elementary school, I love children, and I feel called to follow my spiritual vocation there especially, as teachings are coming through the schools that feel waaaay off the spirit of truth. I am especially drawn these days to scriptures that are equipping me for a battle. I spent most of my Christian life hiding, but God was preparing me. The battle is not carnal but mighty through God..... principalities and powers and spiritual wickedness in high places. Outwardly, we reflect the peace of Christ..... but inwardly, devils flee..... Bless you for all your sharing!

How do you know that the Holy Spirit is indwelling within you?

I know that Jesus cared not for money nor possessions yet, what became of the riches presented by the wise men? I highly doubt that they, bringing tribute to a king, presented a gold piece, a joss stick and a stick of Old Spice. Could these gifts possibly have helped support his ministry as he traveled or do you have other theories. I do not picture Mary and Joseph being destitute nor even poor after their visit.

Which is the sabbath day?

What are the four corners of heaven?

please keep myself and daughters Deanna and Jessica and there families in your prayers

I am praying for you

Prayer for the Lord to protect, save, deliver, heal, anoint, bless, comfort, encourage, guard, provide, prosper, lead, guide, and fight all of my children's and grandson's battles, fight my battles Prayer for peace on my job, God to keep His hedge of protection around me, my children, our homes, cars, jobs, health, minds, lives & for God to protect my children grandson & I & for all my kids to be saved and live for Jesus. Prayer for God's perfect will to be fulfilled in my granson's life, all of my children and my life that God has predestined protected and covered in The Blood of Jesus. Prayer for unlimited favor with God and man.

2 Samuel 19:13. Benson Commentary

And say ye to Amasa, Art thou not of my bone, and of my flesh? God do so to me, and more also, if thou be not captain of the host before me continually in the room of Joab.

2 Samuel 19:13. Say to Amasa, Art thou not of my bone, &c. - That is, nearly related to me, being my sister's son. God do so to me, and more also, &c. - He solemnly promises to prefer him to the highest command in the kingdom; for he now thought it a fit time to depress Joab, who was grown insufferably insolent and imperious, and who, through his credit with the army, had protected himself in the commission of the greatest crimes. He had slain Abner most perfidiously in cold blood, and killed Absalom contrary to the king's express command, and now lately had insulted him in his sorrow. Having, therefore, now an opportunity of transferring the command to another person, who had as great an interest in the people's favour as Joab, he gladly embraces it, that so he might both chastise Joab for his faults, and rescue himself from the bondage in which that general had hitherto held him. Some, however, have thought that, considering Joab's very faithful services to David in all the changes of his fortune, and that his violent measures proceeded in part from a regard to him, as judging them necessary for his safety and tranquillity, David's conduct in this instance, in making Amasa captain of the host in Joab's room, is not an amiable trait in his character, and was not a prudent step at this time, especially considering Joab's violent temper: and, it must be acknowledged, it brought on the murder of Amasa.

Sacha,

Please do no be angry that others are wired differently. What you know to be the truth, they will have nothing of it. When we are privy to the mystery, we will realize our shame in the guessing game. God bless you sweetie.

I wrote to you yesterday. I was thinking to another time when someone told me to bloom where I was planted. Are you friends with people from work, or in the neighborhood? Church?

I guess life gives us winter seasons that seem bare and bleak. I've had more than my fair share. It truly feels like Psalm 23. Just hold on to Jesus's hand (Thou are with me). All you have to do is walk with Him, through this. I've preached so much on Job lately. It's my favorite book, but it took me years+years to love it. I was Job. I lost everything. I sat down in the dirt for years; until I finally saw "Thou art with me." I connected and started to live again. When my Dad died, I begged God to take me too. I was mad, but he didn't answer that prayer. God still has something in his mind for us to be a part of. For starters: life. My Dad was a farmer after WW2. I learned much just watching him.

Break up your field that has laid fallow (uncultivated). It's very hard ground, but it's also very fertile now. Anything will yield a crop if it gets rain. That's where our tears and will to survive comes in. God put that in us. He has a plan for the next chapter of the book he's writing.

All you have to do is move forward. Keep your old friends, but do pray and ask God where he wants you to be. He will lead you. Just keep yourself online with the Holy Spirit: your personal Comforter.

I have learned by experience; there is Church shopping, and Church hopping. Look for the Psalm 23 Pastor. He leads as only they (the sheep) follow. Follow Jesus Christ. If you ask the Holy Spirit for direction, He might give you GPS directions Himself. If you are learning, hearing the revelation, growing up, saying WOW often, that may be your Church.

I love Pastor Paul Shepherd on the FM Radio. He can get loud and I love his sermons. There's some Meaty Preaching on some radio ministry.

Depression and wanting to die, is the devil. He wants us dead. Don't Listen to him.

Anthony DiValentin,

Even righteous men will tremble before the Great White throne. Everyone will succumb to God's love and choose life. I wonder why the Great White throne judgment happens at the 2nd resurrection, and not the 1st with the saints?

From my point of view, I don't look at life with the same joy and optimism I once used to. I see the world as one big 24/7 organized racket. Politicians, judges, lawyers, cops all crooked and corrupt. It is the norm. So, I wonder what's here that's worth defending? I didn't ask to be here, alive, and would be content sleeping for an eternity in the hereafter. Please don't tell me that my spirit will be tormented forever in "hell", because that's what I'm dealing with down here.

OSEAS,

So you are saying that the world is 6 thousand years old, and a century into the 7th?

I'm gonna have to toss out all my anthropology books:

"Non-bird dinosaurs lived between about 245 and 66 million years ago, in a time known as the Mesozoic Era. This was many millions of years before the first modern humans appeared."

But Peter also pertaining to Joel says In the last days , which last time I checked, we are still in the last says. We have experienced these even greater than the days of pentecost, because God is giving revelation on things that will happen right up till He actually comes for the battle of Armageddon.For years He has been showing us through music and movies what was coming. EX. The movie "Armageddon " shows a meteor coming to hit the planet, and that is going to happen.Rage against the machine was taken to court right after the towers went down because of lyrics in one of their songs would lead you to think they knew about the attack, before hand when they didn't know, they were just singing what they were led to sing.So prophesying is still taking place today

Brother Adam,

Hell, also known as hades, is a waiting room for the dead allegory. The rich man in agony sees Abraham comforting Lazarus, this is also a frightening allegory. I see God using a common tactic, 'the fear of hell', to entice sinners into a respectable and pure Christ-like existence. It is also said that ALL men & creatures will kneel before God. God's universe is all inclusive.

You must know that God loves us all, and even the worst of sinners have people that love and pray for them. Free will is also pre-destiny, because God knows every hair on your head, He knows you from before the womb. Jesus paid a blood ransom for ALL the world, for ALL sin. The hell in our minds is all the hell that there is.

I do not understand why Joab killed Amasa. Why did Joab him?

If you would please pray for The LORD to help me I would greatly appreciate it. I've bee. Under severe attacks by the enemy and need The LORD to protect me, fight for me, and deliver me from the enemy and his agents. Please pray that the attacks against me stop and that The LORD brings the enemy, his agents and their schemes to nothing. Please also pray that The LORD provides for all of my spiritual and material needs. Thank you and God bless you.

Amen John2

Forest,

You are an eagled eyed scout! That is a fantastic example of how God gave the Holy Ghost before Jesus did. Amazing. Unless nay-sayers have equal and opposite scriptures to rebuff, this is the coolest treasure to come my way this week.

If you have any other Biblical insights, please share them.