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  • Joyce Loretta Kearsley - 4 years ago
    samuel 1 chapters 22, 23, 24 is about what
  • Joyce Loretta Kearsley on 1 Samuel 20 - 4 years ago
    samuel 1 chapter 22 what the chapter is about
  • S Spencer - In Reply on James 2 - 4 years ago
    Thanks Brother Jesse!!

    That's it, and in much more detail.

    This time I will hold on to this treasure and not forget where I pasted it.

    Thanks

    Goodnight and God bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on James 2 - 4 years ago
    Amen Brother Earl.

    Vessels we are,

    If we take hold of that it will solve a lot of debates.

    God bless.
  • Phillip - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Adam,

    This part of the journey isn't that well thought out. The mark must signify a sworn oath to the beast ruler as God. I have a hard time believing that a father of 12 would deny the mark to not feed his family. A greater majority of "Christians" will make their own survival rules, appease their bellies, and take the mark.

    *I will say this loud and clear: the only ones guaranteed of not taking the mark are the 144K elect. Most every Christian will take the mark over death.

    What if I told you that taking a ss#, a drivers license, or a credit card was equivalent to taking the US govt's mark. It's that easy. What will you do when the lights go out? Death isn't bad compared to hell on earth, pining away in the valley of decision.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    Adam Mittler,

    This website did it to me again. I did not type 144. I typed one-hundred and forty four thousand.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    Adam Mittler,

    It is my understanding that a born again Christian would never take the mark. A person cannot receive the mark without first worshiping the beast. Someone who is born of God's Spirit would never bow down and worship the beast.

    It is also my understanding that if that time comes during our lifetime, we as born again believers will not be here anyway.

    People are going to be given a choice right at the mid-point of the tribulation period to either take the mark and be able to buy and sell, or refuse and be put to death (probably beheaded).

    The people who refuse to take the mark are those who chose to receive Christ sometime during the first 3-1/2 years of the tribulation period.

    Every believer prior to the 7 year tribulation period will have already been snatched away by Christ and will not be faced with having to make the choice as to whether or not receive the mark.

    But you have to keep in mind that there will be people getting saved during the the tribulation period as they will be warned not to take the mark. There will be the two witnesses preaching Christ. There will be an angel flying around in mid-heaven who will be warning people. And there will also be 144,000 Jews who will be evangelizing and warning people. The ones who receive Christ from their testimonies will be the ones who will refuse the mark. Those who receive the mark are the ones who continued to reject the testimony because of the hardness of their hearts.
  • Raul Diaz - 4 years ago
    Sacha,

    The beast is to America what Persia was to Babylon, what Assyria was to Egypt, etc. According to God, Kingdoms rise taking turns at being number one on the world stage. If Babylon is Rome, then who will attack and destroy Rome? Who'll be fighting who? Antiquity changes location over hundreds of years through modern day rivals that complete prophesy.

    God topples kingdoms, not churches. Who's going to miss Rome as opposed to the fall of America? Why do the merchants weep for Rome? Thomas Jefferson fashion US govt buildings after Roman architecture. Does the Vatican have a powerful army? Where did the power and likeness of Rome go? Who has been on top and is now being challenged by others, like Russia, China? The US couldn't get anymore closer to Rome if they tried.

    Read Jeremiah 50 & 51 for America's prophesy in action. Rome as end-time Babylon is too obvious a ploy, so God likened Mystery Babylon to America. Why hold on to America, the war whore, like it's the only world you have?

    Anyone can see it is America at the top, soon to bring the battle home, marking its desolation. The world has it out for America, and it will be taken with violence, a sacrifice. Only when America falls will antichrist be revealed.
  • Michael - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Yes, salvation is a free gift. But, once saved, you need to keep yourself in God's love as Jesus stated at

    John 15:10 "IF YE KEEP my commandments, ye shall ABIDE (REMAIN) in my love; even as I have KEPT my Father's commandments, and ABIDE (REMAIN) in his love."

    If salvation is just believing and can't be lost, then why did Paul say at

    1 Corinthians 9:26-27 "I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so FIGHT I, not as one that beateth the air: But I KEEP UNDER MY BODY, and BRING IT INTO SUBJECTION: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a CASTAWAY."

    Sounds to me that Paul disciplined himself to keep himself in God's love. He did not want to be a castaway - rejected.

    Jude 1:21 "KEEP YOURSELVES IN THE LOVE OF GOD, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life."

    Notice the words of James at

    James 5:19-20 "BRETHREN, if any of YOU do ERR FROM THE TRUTH, and one convert him; Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

    James is here speaking to the "BRETHREN" and says that it is possible for a brother (a true believer) to "ERR FROM THE TRUTH" - therefore, he must have been in the truth to start off with, otherwise he would not be erring from it. He has become, once again, a sinner and is in danger of death.

    Paul also said at

    1 Corinthians 10:12 "Wherefore let him that thinketh he STANDETH take heed lest he FALL."

    Some say that Paul is referring to those who THINK they are standing but really are not. If that were so, then why does he say LEST HE FALL. If they are not standing, they certainly cannot fall.

    What Paul is really saying is: Let him that thinks he is standing SOLIDLY, take heed that he does not fall after all.

    Kindly.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    Brother Adam, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Before you can understand Revelation you have to BELIEVE a few things.

    Revelation 22:10 And he saith unto me, seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: FOR THE TIME IS AT HAND. You have to believe that it is relevant right this minute; that it's instructions on how our flesh is destroyed so be can inherit the kingdom of God.

    1 Corinthians 15:50 ...flesh and blood can not inherit the kingdom of God..

    Revelation 1:1 ...and he sent and SIGNIFIED it...

    You have to believe that most nouns represent something other than what a dictionary defines them as.

    Romans 8:20 For the creature (man) was made subject to vanity....

    We start life with no faithfulness to our creator (husband); therefore, we are the WHORE. We have no knowledge of the word of God; therefore, we are the false prophet, we have no love or mercy; therefore we are the BEAST. We are the only beast that buys and sells. We are flesh; therefore, we are Anti Christ (opposed to Spirit).

    When Revelation is finished with us we will be the FULLNESS OF CHRIST.

    Romans 8:3 ....God sending his own Son in the LIKENESS of sinful flesh (us)...

    Sinful flesh (us) was crucified with Christ; Christ arose and we arose with him.

    Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection.... they shall shall reign with him a thousand years.

    You have already died to the mark you were born with (the beast) (flesh).

    Revelation 13:15 ....as many as would not worship the the image of the beast (themselves and things of the flesh) should be killed.

    Revelation 9:18 By these three were a third part of man killed, by FIRE, and by smoke, and by brimstone...

    You were raised with Christ and now Christ lives in you.

    Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming FIRE.

    You now live in the purifying fire of CHRIST where the beast and false prophet are:

    Revelation 19:20.. cast alive into FIRE; cast alive into Christ.
  • Michael - In Reply on James 2 - 4 years ago
    Hello Adam,

    I certainly do believe your viewpoint is the accurate one. If salvation is just believing and can't be lost, then why did Paul say at

    1 Corinthians 9:26-27 "I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so FIGHT I, not as one that beateth the air: But I KEEP UNDER MY BODY, and BRING IT INTO SUBJECTION: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a CASTAWAY."

    Sounds to me that Paul disciplined himself to keep himself in God's love. He did not want to be a castaway - rejected.

    Jude 1:21 "KEEP YOURSELVES IN THE LOVE OF GOD, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life."

    Notice the words of James at

    James 5:19-20 "BRETHREN, if any of YOU do ERR FROM THE TRUTH, and one convert him; Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

    James is here speaking to the "BRETHREN" and says that it is possible for a brother (a true believer) to "ERR FROM THE TRUTH" - therefore, he must have been in the truth to start off with, otherwise he would not be erring from it. He has become, once again, a sinner and is in danger of death.

    Paul also said at

    1 Corinthians 10:12 "Wherefore let him that thinketh he STANDETH take heed lest he FALL."

    Some say that Paul is referring to those who THINK they are standing but really are not. If that were so, then why does he say LEST HE FALL. If they are not standing, they certainly cannot fall.

    What Paul is really saying is: Let him that thinks he is standing SOLIDLY, take heed that he does not fall after all.

    I leave you with these few thoughts which I thought you might enjoy.

    Take care, Adam.
  • Jesse - In Reply on James 2 - 4 years ago
    Amen Earl,

    It is Christ who works in us and through us. It's His work. But it is such a blessing when He uses us to accomplish His will. I had someone years ago tell me that they were doing God's work. I said "Oh yea, how's that working out for you? They didn't know how to answer that. That person then told me that's what we are supposed to do as believers. I then said "If God is counting on me to do His work for Him, then He is in trouble." That conversation ended quickly as that person didn't want to talk anymore!
  • Conrad H Daisley - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 4 years ago
    The book of Revelation is a symbolic book we have to always remember that, in that water represents people woman represents church, when they arrested Jesus and Peter went to watch they recognize him cause yes spoke like Jesus, his whole way of life was like Jesus.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on James 2 - 4 years ago
    Brother Jesse, I agree with every word you wrote. We are predestined to be the LIKENESS of Christ; as he could do nothing of himself, the Father did it all through him; we do nothing our self, Christ does it all through us. We are the vessel, we only hold Christ. We are the body of Christ.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Oops, I missed one: godliness!
  • Jesse - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Lasenberry John Joyce,

    Are you referring to Chapter 1 where it talks about the participation in the Spiritual growth process, where it lists 7 things, virtue, knowledge, temperance, patience, brotherly kindness, and charity?
  • Jesse - In Reply on James 2 - 4 years ago
    Matthew 22:37 (Part 2)

    Here is the second part I promised:

    I just wanted to take the Verse a little deeper from a Greek perspective.



    If you notice the word "with." Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. Well, it is the Greek word EN, which means in.



    All three prepositional phrases are "in." You will love the Lord your God (in) your whole heart, and (in) your whole soul and (in) your whole mind.



    Please notice the location?



    I am not going to love with it. I am going to be in it. It is going to be in me, in my inner being. That is how it is literally translated in the Greek.

    You see, God gives us the ability to love Him because in the natural, we do not have that capability. So Jesus says this is the first commandment.



    Can you imagine how many years have we gone by with people thinking that the first commandment is a commandment?

    No, the commandment is YOU WILL. There is no choice there! It is not an invitation like I hope you will, or could you, or should you.



    You will, because God's Spirit is the one who has the love. He is the one who loves. And when you have God's Spirit in you, you are in God's love.



    And we have to be sensitive to the fact that AGAPE love is not an action, something we have to go out and do. Agape love is a person. That person is Christ. And if we have Christ, we will love Him with all our heart, mind, and soul. And we will love our neighbor (fellow believer) as ourself. It's not a command for us to go out and do. It is something we will do because His Spirit in us gives us the ability to do so!

    Blessings in Christ Jesus!
  • Jesse - In Reply on James 2 - 4 years ago
    No worries brother Spencer,

    It probably came from Matthew 22:37. The term "Thou shalt love" is not in command form. That is a Future Active Indicative in the Greek text. It is not a command. It is a factual statement. You will love!

    Believers are supposed to love one another. But, neither in the Old Testament, nor in the New Testament, is it in command form.



    As a matter of fact, the command in the Old Testament is YOU WILL love the Lord your God, and YOU WILL love your neighbor as yourself. It is a factual statement!



    It all centers around where the commands came from, Deuteronomy Chapter 6 that has the SHEMA, the prayer that is prayed every morning and evening by Orthodox Jews.



    In that prayer, they recite the fact that God says that I will put my Spirit in you, and I will put my laws on your heart, and YOU WILL love the Lord your God.

    We are told in Galatians 5:22 that love, AGAPE, is a fruit of God's Spirit.



    In 1 John Chapter 4, it tells us that God is love. Now if I focus on the fact that God is love, and I've been commanded to love, and God is love, then what am I to do? Give you God, because He is love. Love is a person. Love is the nature of God!



    In my human abilities, or in my human effort, I cannot produce God's nature of love. I can't produce that!



    And as I said, Galatians 5:22 tells us it is a fruit. It is produced by God's Spirit, just like faith, and all the other ingredients that make up the fruit of the Spirit.



    Some continue to take scriptures out of context and put pressure on themselves to produce these things, when the bible says no.

    The bible says point-blank that if you're not loving your brother, then you don't know God! If you do not have AGAPE love in you, you are not saved. That is what the bible says.

    I am running out of space but want to share a little more on Matthew 22:37 from a Greek perspective. It is some pretty powerful stuff!

    I'll send it as Matthew 22:37 (Part 2)
  • Adam - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 4 years ago
    Clearly God says in his own word that it's clearly going to be a mark in the hand or forehead...
  • Adam Mittler on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    Will a born again christian who loves God be killed for not taking the mark.... It's clear that the mark is important to buy food and gas and necessities so if I am alive when that occurs I must die for christ rather live temporarily on earth and be cast into hell...
  • S Spencer - In Reply on James 2 - 4 years ago
    Hi Sacha,

    You're not butting in, I don't think any private conversations on this site.

    The context in this comment was those who "HATE THE BRETHEREN' the love Christ is not in them.

    "If Christ dwell in us and we in him, his spirit CAUSE us to love one another.

    quoting me now:

    "I believe the emphasis here in John is not just the love for the brethren is evidence of

    Christ in you,

    But also the hatred for the brethren is evidence Christ is not in you."

    Here's THE VERSES.

    1 John 3;18-21. My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

    And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.

    For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.

    Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.

    "We may fool one anther but not God." God knows the Heart!!

    1 John 2:8-11. Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

    He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.

    But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

    1 John 4:20-21. If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

    And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

    1 John 2:5. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected:

    ( hereby know we that we are in him.)

    We are to display Gods love on all men, But Agape/Love which is one of 3 loves in scripture, It's what is used here towards the brethern WHERE BY WE KNOW! Christ is in us.

    God bless
  • Norman Walker - 4 years ago
    I need the Lord's help worse than I ever have and he knows what I am dealing with and I want to ask Him to please help me. Thank you Lord for everything you do and have done and I know you have watched over me all my life or I would not be here today. You know what problem I am dealing with and please help me. Thank you Lord.
  • Adam - In Reply on James 2 - 4 years ago
    Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

    James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

    James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

    1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

    Romans 11

    John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    Matthew 12:31-32

    Romans 14:12

    1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."
  • Adam - In Reply on James 2 - 4 years ago
    Believing isn't enough, because the Bible clearly says that even demons believe James 2:14-26. Even satan believes and you probably know that he's not going back to heaven. Jesus said most people will go to hell and most people on earth believe in God. So, does the math add up? Most will go to hell, despite believing. And since the Bible already says believing isn't enough, it makes a strong case that believing isn't enough. In fact, it's likely that satan is the one trying to convince Christians that they don't need to be obedient or do anything good, because they were told they didn't have to and that good works was bad. Clever trick.

    What I think is a common source of common confusion is cherry picking a verse and ignoring the context of the chapter. For instance some cite Hebrews 10:10-20 as the reason they are 'saved' permanently, regardless of their actions. So, some believe they can enjoy sin, having affairs, stealing, committing murder, with no consequence apparently. Does that sound like it comes from God? But if someone were to simply read further in the same chapter, they would see the greater context and read this...

    26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

    27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

    29 How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace?

    30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

    So, it assumes that a Christian is genuine and being obedient, not willfully sinning! What a massive distinction with eternal consequences!
  • Carleton - 4 years ago
    The Scriptures are for all, even part of one scripture, one time, one day, one hour, one prayer. Yes, to biblically support with several scriptures a thought to share with others can be helpful but can also be plain and simple, over done.

    More humility, less arrogance is a teacher that can be understood.

    :)
  • Margaret on Exodus 23:3 - 4 years ago
    Please explain the meaning of this verse. Not put on a sad face?
  • LASENBERRY JOHN JOYCE - 4 years ago
    What are the seven characters in 2 Peter verse 5-7?
  • Sacha - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Hi John ,i think psalm 2 is all about Jesus ,there are lots of verses that reffer to an only son a first born son etc ,Isaiah ch7 v14 also somewhere in Daniel ch7 ,it really is best to read the entire Bible as it is all connected and some things are slowly revealed ,its fine to look up certain things but to me its a bit like just watching one scene from a film ,i dont think you can appreciate or fully grasp the whole story unless you see or rather read it all ,may God bless you in your efforts to get to know Him and Jesus His Only Begotten Son ,John ch1 v18. John ch1 v34.
  • Reancier james on John 1:26 - 4 years ago
    amen hallelujah praise the lord god is good all the time
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Sister Nancy, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and His understanding.

    2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this FIRST, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

    This says you can't take one verse and come to truth, you have to combine verses from other parts of scripture to know the message.

    I suppose you are making reference to Revelation 12 where Satan was cast from heaven. Let's put other verses with this and see if truth appears.

    Matthew 12:28 But if I CAST OUT DEVILS by the Spirit of GOD, then the kingdom of God is COME UNTO YOU.

    Christ is casting out Satan so he can dwell IN YOU (THE NEW HEAVEN).

    Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven... Colossians 1:27 ...this MYSTERY, Christ in you....

    Revelation 12:7 And there was WAR IN HEAVEN (Spirit vs. flesh) (in you) Michael (Spirit) and his angels fought against the dragon (flesh); and the dragon fought and his angels.

    Revelation 12:8 And (flesh, dragon and his angels) prevailed not; neither was their (dragon and his angels) place found ANY MORE IN HEAVEN (in you where Christ dwells).

    Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was CAST OUT (if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God), that old serpent (that deceived Eve), called the devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the WHOLE WORLD; he was CAST OUT....

    Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice (truth) saying in heaven (in you), Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of HIS CHRIST....

    Luke 10:17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.

    Luke 10:18 And he said to them, I beheld SATAN as lightning falling from heaven (those that Satan was CAST OUT OF).

    God bless!


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