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Glad you are going home. I will continue to pray for you and I hope you will keep us updated.
I don't know much about whether such numbers are from God or evil sources. I can only say to you, stick with the Scriptures and don't rely on such phenomena and experience. Pursue the truth of God's Word. People throughout history have lived their life for Jesus valiantly without "angel numbers" or any thing else except the Scriptures.
I, and most likely, many of us, are watching Putin, Iran, etc. so we did not dismiss what you said. I, speaking only for myself, am in a "wait and see how this pans out" mode because I believe the Lord is in control and will guide this conflict to the end He wishes. There have been many conflicts like this for Israel ever since it became a nation in 1948. They have had to "fight for their life and right to exist many times so far. AND I am praying for all involved. America did the same thing over 250 years ago.
Jema, I think that there are Christians all over the world watching and praying what is happening to Israel today. It is a BIG thing. So don't think that you are alone in your concern. Have a blessed day.
I just found out yesterday that I am officially a grandparent as my son and daughter in law went to the doctor yesterday and came home with an ultrasound of their 10 week old baby in utero. The doctor wanted to check on the baby since she had such a rough time with covid this last month. Baby is o.k.! They were waiting for this appointment to give the news since she had symptoms of possibly miscarrying this last month. I kind of thought she might be pregnant from being nauseated since even before she got covid. We are very happy. This is our first grandbaby. So prayers are welcome for Vivian and baby.
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"All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place,/....And men shall dwell in it,"(vv.10-11) Let me quote a passage I posted elsewhere.""All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem" and it is no longer of literal Jerusalem but shall be lifted up in-midair. New Jerusalem it is called. "I will lift up mine eyes from whence cometh my help" (Ps.12:1). Here we have the Spirit using the place name associated with Israel in the context of eternity. A cataclysmic quake to throw the old city into stones of confusion seems in the offing."
Geba is a hill , a Levitical city given to the tribe of Benjamin. Whereas Rimmon once again is associated with the tribe and it marks the rock into which the remnant of 600 Benjamites fled.(Jud.20:45). Seven thousand of them were slain meaning the tribe had been to all intent and purpose was annihilated. This 600 is a remnant and it also applies to the nation of Israel. When Jerusalem is ransacked totally, leaves yet 'and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city."(14:2). This is how God has willed and it was shown out true in the case the tribe of Benjamin. So shall be with the nation of Israel. Only they shall be brought into the body of Christ through much tribulation.
The remnant of the Tribe of Benjamin found a rock to hide themselves. But when the Day of wrath there shall be no escape. "And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places./And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:/For the great day of his wrath is come;"(Re.6:14-17)
"All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem" and it is no longer of literal Jerusalem but lifted up in-midair. New Jerusalem it is called. I will lift up mine eyes from whence cometh my help" (Ps.12:1). Here we have the Spirit using the place name associated with Israel in the context of eternity. A cataclysmic quake to throw the old city into stones of confusion seems in the offing.
I've read quite a bit of Dave Hunts material also.
He haa a book called "A Woman rides the beast". A good read!
Also video called Israel, Islam, and Armageddon. You can see it on YouTube. It's very good also.
I certainly will post some additional material soon.
God bless.
I am just a short lil boat ride, taxi from the down the bank in Moose Factory to go then home. (25 mins)
Everything went well and was told my lung after this surgery will be in even better shape now.
Medevac'd from Moose Factory to Moosonee. Then Moosonee to Sudbury. There was no extra beds @ original Hospital in Kingston ON they wanted to send me to, but DR said it was a good thing I ended up in Sudbury as they said they got one of the best lung wards in the Country.
GOD BLESS and keep praying for me for wisdom, healing and I will keep you in mine. As we all keep each other in Prayers.
Psalms 27:14
Wait on the LORD: be of good courage, and he shall strengthen thine heart: wait, I say, on the LORD.
Brothers in Christ
Has eternal punishment begun? In fact it is already LITERALLY running.
It's very hard to understand and to say, but the Truth is that we have entered in the period of sorrows, a time of great sufferings until the END of this current world, and of the coming of JESUS as was prophesied since ancient time. JESUS warned that there shall be upon the earth distress of nations, and men's hearts failing them for fear looking those things which are coming on the earth- Luke 21:25-28-, and He Himself is already executing His prophetic words, understand?
Be sure that as was prophesied by the prophets, and the Apostles, and above all by our Lord JESUS, the ETERNAL punishment had a specific and pre-determined period of time to start, I MUST tell it has already started and we are in the transition from the period of sorrows to the period of ETERNAL chastisement is without a gap, is sequential, there will not be a gap between these two terrible events, the question is that it will NEVER END, it will NEVER STOP, it will be for ever ande ever.
Get ready, get ready
God has thrown His protective ring about His people. In the context of everlasting covenant we know is 'from henceforth even for ever. Christ as the Rock of Ages for His people is for eternity. "Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King(Ps.48:2)" Similar to other instances we have the Spirit using the place name associated with Israel in the context of eternity.
We have everlasting covenant and also eternal word. The Holy Spirit in organizing the narrative of Core Will must choose literary means to make it meaningful for man. Thus his Salvation covers all creation. When man is viewed in the image of God his glory covers not only man but also his world. Similarly judgment for the disobedient is not only on man but also his world.
When the Spirit sets these into a narrative mode God sends Man having both deity as well as humanity. So the begotten Son is in relation to God the Father. The Spirit makes him bread from heaven and it has its match in Bethlehem or House of Bread. St Paul qualifies Christ as the spiritual Rock. "for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ(1 Co.10:4)". Christ as the Rock we shall come across many other places, St Paul speaks of the children of Israel slaking their thirst from the Rock that followed them Here in this verse from St Peter we read,"And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence,even to themwhich stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed(1 Pe.2:8)".
"And the word of theLordcame unto me, saying,/Son of man, set thy face toward the mountains of Israel, and prophesy against them,/And say, Ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the LordGod; Thus saith the LordGodto the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valley"(vv.1-3)
"Ye mountains of Israel" to the valley are to be understood spiritually, signifying from the highborn to the lowest of the low."Who art thou, O great mountain? before Zerubbabel thou shalt become a plain." (Ze.4:7) is a classic example. Christ is a great leveller and he is rock of offense.
Mind of God while dealing with His creation and with earth has a focus, the Son. Whoever thus has the Son has also the Father."He that hath the Son hath life;andhe that hath not the Son of God hath not life(1 John5:12). Apostle John in another place says,'the wrath of God' abides in such a person(Jn.3:36). In short Core Will of God carries Salvation as well as judgment.
The Spirit in order to reveal this truth makes use of natural world so symbolism makes Christ Jesus as the spiritual Rock as well as a Rock of offense. Prophet Ezekiel draws on this analogy and also we find Daniel using Jesus as the stone cut without hands while interpreting the dream of the king.St Paul speaks of the children of Israel slaking their thirst from the Rock that followed them Here in this verse from St Peter we read,"And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence,even to themwhich stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed(1 Pe.2:8)".
So Rock in the parlance of the spirit as in the case of bread and water carry much more than objects themselves. How does the Spirit indicate God's Mercy and providence for His people? We came across this verse before,"As the mountainsareround about Jerusalem, so the LORDisround about his people from henceforth even for ever(125:2)." Here we are looking at one level how Jerusalem is situated.
God bless,
RLW
God bless,
RLW
By law of Gradation judgment of God are graded and set under appropriate horses color coded. But the vital point is that the Angel of his presence with the bow representing the glory of God shall restrain these from going rogue. In short the Lord God executes judgment only according to what they deserve.
As a sign Ezekiel had to shave his head indicating the glory of the Lord has deserted them. Exiles under Assyria and Babylon came in waves culminating in the Roman occupation of Palestine. Jerusalem was depopulated and their temple was razed to the ground in AD 70. On the day of Pentecost the outpouring of the Holy Spirit St Peter explained the significance of it,"And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:(Ac.2:17). When the risen Christ sends his angels to collect the saints it is for New Jerusalem and the law shall go out of Zion from the new."And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem(Is.2:3)".
Pestilence, Famine and Sword
Judgment of God that was to come was determined not because of the sin of Israel but for man's disobedience. We shall understand it from the four horsemen of Apocalypse, which is a misconception bandied about in popular culture. While the Lamb breaks the seven seals in the Book of the Revelation it is the four beasts seated before the throne of heaven who explain one after the other and who are these horsemen?
They are proceeding from heaven signifying all the calamities that were to descend on the earth have been foreknown but the horse in white and the rider on the bow indicate God is totally in control. "And he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer (Re.6:2)" Having understood the living creatures mentioned in the first chapter of Ezekiel let us refresh our minds. They represent the angel of his presence and the hand of man each creature had signifies their authority came from the Son. The Spirit of Christ in the Vision of John is shown as a rider on the white horse and what is the bow? "As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the Lord"(Ez.1:28).
The fourth horse carries Death."And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth(Re.6:8). The number Four establishes these riders are sent to the earth. So all pestilence (beasts of the earth), famine (hunger) and war (indicated by the sword) set out. By law of Gradation judgment of God are graded and set under appropriate horses color coded. But the vital point is that the Angel of his presence with the bow representing the glory of God shall restrain three.
In order to set Judgment of God in proper perspective we need to keep in mind the Fellowship of God with Man is the driver that keeps judgment of God alongside the Salvation Plan of God. When He judges man as in the case of ten plagues we are told that animals also were affected by it. ".a boil breaking forth with blains upon man, and upon beast(Ex.9:10). By Association judgment is executed upon man and his world.
In this context when God says "And let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them.(Ex.25:8)" We have an emblem of which set in heaven. The four beasts with six wings is a memorial before God. The same arrangement is continued in the four living creatures that play a part in the Book of Ezekiel. These are sent from heaven and they reveal as well as execute judgment from time to time.
In these chapters we are considering judgment on the rebellious house of Israel and the city of Jerusalem in particular. God judged Sodom; so was Egypt judged,- and the slaughter of the firstborn was a consequence of it. Weighing in balance is the emblem of the Lamb slain before the worlds began (Re.13:8) and the everlasting covenant. So mercy and Judgement go hand in hand. Holiness of God sums up his Love Mercy Truth and when God sends in fullness of time His Son it is with a view to create a body that we know is the Church of the firstborn. "To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect (He.11:23)",
God has foreknown them and the blessings He promised through Abraham covers all families of the earth and not merely Israel. In order to make this clear we have this image of the tabernacle or New Jerusalem descending from heaven. So this is as different from Jerusalem on earth. This is what the writer to the Hebrews means.
'Three fold judgment covers body represented by hair, the spirit (wind) and soul(fire)''. We shall examine the aspect of fire further.
We have an incident in the life of Jesus when the Samaritans made little of receiving him and John and his brother responded in a manner that invited rebuke from their master. "And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?55But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of(Lk.9:54-55).
Spirit when was given as promised by Jesus after his Ascension it came as many tongues of fire. It is a sign of God's judgment and it shall be as and when God determines. Fire in the present case was to be done before the other captives and the judgment of Jerusalem was what Ezekiel had to impress upon them. Elijah was a double for the Son and so was Ezekiel. In the following chapters we shall see from whence fire would come.
We shall come across the living creatures again and while the glory of God presides over
"Take fire from between the wheels, from between the cherubims; then he went in, and stood beside the wheels./And one cherub stretched forth his hand from between the cherubims unto the fire that was between the cherubims, and took thereof, and put it into the hands of him that was clothed with linen: who took it, and went out./And there appeared in the cherubims the form of a man's hand under their wings(10:6-8).
Angel of his presence represented by the man's hand hands out the fire that shall engulf the rebellious house.. This is how the lock of hair reserved by Ezekiel would bring in. The prophet used the barber's razor and the sword of the Lord shall surely validate the prophet's action.
Ezekiel was required to weigh the hair in a balance that would have made him a spectacle among other captives.".. For we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men(1 Co.4:9)".
Ezekiel was required to weigh the hair in a balance that would have made him a spectacle among other captives.".. For we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men(1 Co.4:9)".
Ezekiel on dividing the hair in three parts, did as was commanded by God. Similar to what Moses did in the land of Egypt- 'a third part thou shalt scatter in the wind"And they took ashes of the furnace, and stood before Pharaoh; and Moses sprinkled it up toward heaven; and it became a boil breaking forth with blains upon man, and upon beast(Ex.19:8). The wind carries the judgment of God. Pandemic also works similarly and plague of locusts as we have seen in instances around us, can lead to famine. Pandemic in the present crisis kill of 100,000 + Why speak of culture wars when depopulated nations cannot sustain economic levels they enjoyed earlier? Famine is judgment on body and spirit is another. "For thereof shall a fire come forth into all the house of Israel (v,3)" It springs forth from the hair the Prophet had reserved in the hem of his tunic. For all the insults and injuries dealt out to God's poor and disenfranchised children reserves a day of reckoning."For I, saith the LORD, will be unto her a wall of fire round about, and will be the glory in the midst of her(Ze. 2:5).
Three fold judgment covers body represented by hair, the spirit (wind) and soul(fire).'.
Hair represents glory and honour for natural man. The Spirit uses Absalom and Samson for example and we shall consider in this case why God wanted Ezekiel to use a sharp knife so 'I will draw out a sword after them'. "The hoary headisa crown of glory,ifit be found in the way of righteousness" (Pr.16:31) and another, the beauty of old menisthe gray head (Pr.20:29)
"And ye shall know that I am theLord" is the key verse for our meditation. Ezekiel like Isaiah was to warn the house of Israel where lay the fault. Judgement was coming and Ezekiel as the watchman had to warn them and make them change their ways before it was too late.
Son of man, set thy face toward the mountains of Israel, and prophesy against them,
3And say, Ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the LordGod; Thus saith the LordGodto the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys; Behold, I, even I, will bring a sword upon you, and I will destroy your high places.
Nations round about Israel are compared figuratively to mountains. By the same token movers and shakers of his time are mountains of Israel. God's judgment falling upon them bring in for judgment upon their way of life. (v.6) In their idols and images we have a clue what went wrong. "Every man is brutish inhisknowledge: every founder is confounded by the graven image: for his molten imageisfalsehood, andthere isno breath in them.: ( Je. 10:14)"
In contrast we have the key to knowledge: "The fear of the LORDisthe beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holyisunderstanding (Pro.9:10). God's protection ought to have been their refuge but Israel instead chose the foolish path by serving pagan gods of nations that surrounded them. "As the mountainsareround about Jerusalem, so the LORDisround about his people from henceforth even for ever(Ps.125:2)." We have David's prayer,"Be thou my strong habitation, whereunto I may continually resort: thou hast given commandment to save me; for thouartmy rock and my fortress(71:3)".
"Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me".
The Spirit while organizing it sets the period and speech as directly coming from God so seven days indicates more than number of days and 'therefore hear the word at my mouth' carries more than what it merely says. Seven denotes period for the message to be fully understood and the second which is formula we have come across at several places in its various forms. It refers to where it comes from and not to be taken literally. So Ezekiel's trust must be complete; consequently the message is to be delivered to the recipient without any dilution or addition on his part. The principle is same as Jesus said, "For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you(Matt.10:20; Lk 12:12).
We have another example of the prayer of Jonah from the belly of the great fish, It is as finished in its composition and as in the manner the fish obeys the Lord God.."And theLordspake unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land( Jonah 2:10)". It is the Spirit that helps with our infirmities and God the Spirit shall know when we pray in distress as Hannah prayer was heard, though out of intense distress no word would come out of her. Young Samuel was the proof that God heard her cry. He fully appreciates our circumstances. In this present crisis it is He who tracks and checks you so you shall not come to harm. Similarly when God chooses you for His ministry he knows how to get the best out of you. So Moses would serve His purpose as Jeremiah did. His tender age was no excuse. When the Lord Almighty has foreknown you and formed and shaped your world to which you enter as His watchman and as a sign are we to fool around with people who despise things of the Spirit?.
Ezekiel had a task however unpleasant it was between God and him. He was under the burden.
I am with you on this interpretation. And I don't think that we are truly in the minority in the whole history of Christianity. But in todays American Evangelical churches, especially those that arose in America, the belief in the dispensational pretribulation rapture is more the norm. But there are a vast number of people who believe as we do, that there is not going to be a pretribulation rapture. Thanks for your explanation here. i know many on this particular site do take the viewpoint of the pre-trib rapture.
I had cautiously entered into some discussions on this in the past where you and many others posted their views and Scriptural interpretations as I did. That was a good discussion. But I do not wish to engage in this topic again on this thread. I just want to give you support for posting a view that is unpopular among many who post regularly on here. Blessing to you and to those who don't think like us. We are all one in Christ.
One of my favorite verses (I would call it my "life verse") is 1 John 4:10
"Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us, and sent His Son as a propitiation for our sins."
In fact, this whole section in 1 John 4:7-21is very near and dear to my heart.
Greetings in Christ JESUS
just to remember :
NATION shall rise against NATION ... Will be G7, and G-20, and UN, among other World Entites, DISSOLVED?
Get ready, yes, get ready
Our GOD is in control of History, nothing random happens.
Remember: Our GOD rests of His works in this seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium after Adam. By the way, GOD sent JESUS - the Word made flesh( John 1:14), He is the true God, and eternal life, and we know that the Son of GOD came (IN THE FOURTH DAY- John 5:17, take a look, or around 4000 years after Adam, even around 2000 years ago), and hath given us an understanding, that we may know Him that is True, and we are in Him that is True, even in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and Eternal life- 1John 5:19-20.
Our Lord JESUS said: All Power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Our Lord JESUS will exert all His Power from this beginning of this seventh and final millennium to destroy the works of the Devil, to destroy the Devil's WORLD with its all kind of structures: religious, and economic,social,military, among other systems of the satanic organizations and systems.By the way, The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ;and He shall reign for ever and ever- Revelation 11:15-18.Take a look.
By the way, one of the 7 heads of the MAN Beast of sea- Revelation 13:1-10- will be wounded to death; but his deadly wound will be healed (but how? well, the dragon( Revelation 13:11, will give to the MAN Beast of sea his Power, and his Seat (in Jerusalem), and great Authority- Revelation 13:2), and all the world ( Luke 21:24 combined with Revelation 11:2) will wonder after the MAN Beast of sea.
Be careful and get ready
Well, Celebration of the Lamb's marriage? ONLY AFTER THE JUDGMENT OF BABYLON. (see the site of purebibleforum)
Revelation 18:4- Come out of her,my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Get ready
The message wasn't to the churches, but to the angel of the church.
God Bless YOU!
I agree also that these are separate events.
In Revelation 19:9 we see the marriage supper of the Lamb.
In verse 11-16 We the second coming where Christ comes to make war.
If this was the rapture of the saints, who is it that was present at the marriage supper of the Lamb in verse 9 if we hadn't been raptured yet?
In other words, he would have to come get us before we can attend the wedding!
Thanks and God bless you.
I know I may be in the minority of this but, they do not match if we say Jesus comes for the Church and takes those resurrected and those who are still living who will be changed back up to heaven. Many say the church is the bride and when the Church is raptured to heaven the marriage supper will then be in heaven. In 1 Thess. 4:13-18 Paul was comforting them because they thought the ones who believed in Jesus that had already died would miss Jesus's second coming and would not be resurrected.
Those who are resurrected and those living who will be changed will meet Jesus in the air on His way down to earth, nowhere does it say we are taken or go to heaven. This is the first resurrection in Rev. 19:11-16 and Rev. 20:5-6. There are only two resurrections if Thess. 13-18 is a rapture of the Church to heaven there would be three resurrections, but Scripture says there are only two.
Scripture says only those who are chosen and faithful, those who are worthy to reign with Jesus for a thousand years will be in the first resurrection, Rev. 5:10 Rev. 17:14 Rev. 20:6 the first resurrection is just before the battle of Armageddon Rev. 19:17-21 Rev. 20:1-6.
After a thousand years, the rest of the dead will be resurrected, the second and last, Rev. 20:7-15. Some say the white throne judgment is only for the lost but if we read vs 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Some are found in the Book of Life also these lines up with Dan. 12:2 and Matt. 25:31-46, the white throne (then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory).
The bride is another discussion; Who is the bride? Who are those "Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb"?
God bless,
RLW