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Hello Mishael ,i have been reading the posts on this site for quite a long time so i feel as if i know a few of you guys and girls but you dont know me ,im convinced that you are a clever guy and a faithfull Christian who has read all the Bible ,so you know already that we are called not to conform to this world ,we are called to resist our sinfull nature ,belive me when i say that i have felt like comitting an act of violence and i still do feel that way sometimes ,i know in my heart and from my Lord Jesus that that is not what he expects from me ,either on an individual level or as part of a group ,army ,country etc ,the natural man is strong in us all ,we want to protect the things and people that we love but we must fight against the natural man and love God and Jesus more than anything or anyone else , a true Christian must never under ANY circumstances instigate violence against any one else ,its a tough ask i know ,we are not even supposed to defend ourselves with violence ,we are not supposed to defend anyone else with violence ,Jesus faced all these temptations ,right up to the garden of Gethsemane when one of his disciples drew a sword ! One of the ways we can help our selves in this is to not put our selves in situations that might require us to use force ,so...we should not join willingly the armed forces or the police ,we know what will be required of us in those proffesions and we know that its not what we are called to do .

Hello Adam ,i absolutely get where you are coming from about Paul and his associates but in my mind they werent taking wages ,fellow Christians were ministering to them because they didnt even have what was necessary ,they were ministering food and clothing etc ,Paul had nothing ,we should never turn away from any one who doesnt have even the basics to be safe and warm and fed ,even if they are not Christians , my guess is that if Paul ,who had nothing felt as if he had excess he would pass it on to some one who needed it more than him ,he truely cast all his care upon the Lord as we have all read in his letters ,so yes ,i fully appreciate your post Adam but for me giving some one what they need to survive is not giving them wages its ministering to their needs ,to me wages is saying 'if you do this i will pay you for doing it ' . I hope i have explained myself ok ,God bless you .

please keep Kristie and myself in your prayers pray the Lord gives Kristie the strength and courage to say and do what is before her pray the Lord remove the walls that separate once and for all

Paul had no problem with his eyes. That lie came from lost and confused theologians. He wrote a large letter by his own hand because he loved them. Usually, he would dictate a letter to a scribe wrote it down. He also testified of their love for him by saying that they would also pluck out their eyes and give them to him. You can read about his thorn in the flesh in 2 cor 11:23-30

"Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more; in labours more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft. Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one. Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep; in journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; in weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness. Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches. Who is weak, and I am not weak? who is offended, and I burn not? If I must needs glory, I will glory of the things which concern mine infirmities."

So please, I beseech you to come away from these reprobate theologians who wallow in the mire of their own filth and folly. You will never know God through theology.

Hello Ronny. You asked: "So Jesus being born was that a changed God?"

If by that you mean, 'Was God deficient in any way by Him sending out His Word to be clothed with flesh & live on the Earth?" I would say, No. If that same Word which was given to the prophets to utter to the people & by that same Word God spoke to the people by His Son ( Hebrews 1:1,2), then Jesus is & always has been God's utterance to the sons of men.

One could also ask, 'By God sending forth His Spirit to do His bidding both in the heavens & Earth, is God changed by such an absence or deficiency of that Person from within His Being?' Clearly, No. God is Spirit - His sending forth His Word or His Spirit would not mean an absence in God's Deity or Holiness, rather that both the Word & Spirit are vitally & inseparably connected to the Godhead. And this is obviously what man is unable to replicate because of the limitations of our finite being.

In like manner, that Word made flesh, also exemplified in human form, God's Love, Grace, Truth & Holiness. Without Jesus amongst them, the people not only wouldn't have had God's Lamb sent for their salvation but would not have seen that God had indeed come amongst them (Immanuel) to visibly show them His Heart of Love for them; & that Love took Him all the way to the Cross. That He has gone all out to secure their hearts for Himself - but they rather called Him a devil & crucified Him. What will their end be?

The KJV bible references the cross a total of 28 times in the NT, I find no reference to stake, and also to fulfill John 3:14 he would have needed to be lifted up on a cross. I hope this helps.

John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

Matthew Chapter 27:38-41 Then were there two thieves crucified with him, one on the right hand, and another on the left.

And they that passed by reviled him, wagging their heads, And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross. Likewise also the chief priests mocking him, with the scribes and elders, said,

Mark 15:32 "Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him."

It was a good day! Started off rainy but the sun came out for a while. Been studying All day getting fat on the Word, lol.

Hope you were blessed also.

I pray the Lord would open a window, say hi to you, and pour out a blessing on you and your family and kin. Peace shine on you.

It would have been something if Jesus set out similar to Melchizedek, with no record of birth etc. vs 4 Thou (Jesus) art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.

( Psalms 110:1-6) Affirms the divinity of Jesus and His part in God's plan.

1 (A Psalm of David.) The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

2 The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.

3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.

4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.

5 The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.

6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries.

verses 5-6 God calls Jesus "The Lord at thy right hand", and could have easily said "The God at thy right hand". God reminds us of sixth trumpet Jesus' day, the biggest one-sided battle ever, none like it afterwards. The Lord uses kings and armies of the earth to do his will, to fulfill scripture till time is out.

The man of God, Apostle Paul brings to light the need for Christians to accept the will of God in every circumstance because all the time it is for our greater good. In order to redeem from pride, Paul says he was afflicted. God taught him to accept and live with the pain because of his abundant grace available to him. Paul say if not for this he probably would have been talking only about his exploits. But God taught him to humble himself and rather glory in his infirmities. That's where our strength lies. To let people know that though i was weak, i could not help myself but God sustained me and brought me out.

Its indeed a lesson on humility

Go to this website and read that teaching. I don't know what your situation is, but I hope this helps you. Let me know.

EnduringWord dot com

You'll have to key in 2 Timothy 2

Jesus name in Matthew is Immanuel. "God with us".

He is all human and all God.

Re: Free Will.. The mere fact of even questioning in a public forum of whether we are free agents means you have it. eg- The two and a half tribes chose to stay and live in another area not originally designated by God. God is loving because He gives us the choice of choosing to obey or not. He is loving because He also tells us of the consequences. May the Lord's peace be upon all who choose to obey Him.

I think everyone commented on that. Click on THREAD on your question box and read all of them. :D

If you type HART or ROE in the search box (where you drop into this website)

The search engine will pull up every scripture with those words in it. You can even scroll downward and read a Matthew Henry commentary.

A Roe is a rabbit.

You can Google those books and see other people's Commentaries. ie Matthew Henry

Type the book or scripture

1 Timothy, Commentary. Or

1 Timothy, Teaching. Or

1 Timothy, History

1 Timothy 1, Teaching

No. Adam gave his mandate over when he and Eve ate of the fruit of the Tree of Life.

God spoke of the Word to become flesh (future) in Genesis 3:15

"15 And I will put enmity between thee (Satan), and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it (Jesus Christ) shall bruise thy head (Satans legal power), and thou shalt bruise his heel. (the nail through Jesus's feet)."

When Jesus died for the sins of all mankind on the Cross, he fulfilled the Old Covenant, and ratified the New Covenant, with his blood sacrifice as the Lamb of God. Satan didn't know that or he would have prevented it.

Jesus was resurrected on the 3rd Day. Satan was stripped of the power he had stolen from First Adam. Second Adam is Jesus. Satan has no authority over Gods born again children. Only what we give him by sinning and not asking to be forgiven. 1 John.

Jesus descended into hell's prisons, took the KEYS of Death, Hell and the Grave; out of Satans hand. Then Jesus emptied hell.

The Godhead (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) live outside of Time; and they Live inside of Time.

"In Beginning," ( Gen. 1:1) is when God began the ticking of Time.

We might crab at God, "Why did YOU let this disaster happen?! God has a will, He gave free will to mankind to use for good or evil; as a Created being, Satan has an evil will. He does all the things we blame God for. Isaiah 14:12-16

We all need to remember that. Be wary and pray daily to God: Thy Will Be Done.

In Job, we see that Satan attacked Job's family first. He stirred up an F-5 tornado against them.

Let's be informed who is responsible for what.

God is Love, God is Good. He has made all Provision for us. He even gave His only begotten Son, so that we may live eternally, IF we accept Jesus as Savior and Lord? Take your SELF off the throne of your heart; and ask Jesus to be the Lord of your Life. Be conscious of WHO has your best interests in his heart. Amen?

Mishael

( Titus 2:13)Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

Titus is giving the respect, honor, and title that's due to our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.

Case closed.

That was a lovely, God-led act you did Suziq, in giving a little gift to that elderly preacher. I'm sure he must have praised the Lord for your act of kindness & would have had a another confirmation from God of his important ministry - that the Lord was well aware of his service & providing this encouragement through your hands.

I would not have a problem with serving or ex-armed forces personnel in uniform in Church; and being in full dress uniform, they would be required to wear service medals. I would be very gratified & blessed to see that those who have been called to serve their countries, willing to lay aside comforts & security, to be found in a chapel declaring their submission & allegiance to the King of kings. This must speak volumes to them, as well as to those who worship & fellowship with those heroes.

Even though there are many more expenses & encumbrances upon Churches today, I still believe that they have grown too large, not numerically, but in dependency on the materiel, the latest in gadgetry & obligated salaries. This may not be a bad thing for sustaining or developing the local Church, but we have generally lost sight of what the early believers practised. The elders & deacons had secular jobs, ministry to the members or those outside Christ were done freely expecting nothing in return, & their worship places were in homes or in simple dwellings. The apostles or those in full-time evangelistic work received support from the Church (not by compulsion), and even Paul had to resort to his trade (tent-making) when finances got a little tight ( 1 Corinthians 4:11,12; Acts 18:1-3). So my feeling that any demand for a salary when members participate in Church ministry (preaching, music, maintenance of building & grounds), should not be the norm, but a freewill offering of service unto the Lord. Anyway, that's what I've always done & believe to be right before the Lord.

i was raised believing women can not preach and i still believe it today according to what the KJV says

what does it mean heart of worship. Father worshippers shall worship on spirit and truth.

Jesse ,i think an Hart is a type of antelope .

Mishael ,my beloved grandad fought in ww2 ,he was a p.o.w. in a prisoner of war camp in burma for just over 3 years ,he was 6ft 2inches tall and weighed 120 pounds when he got back to england and he had been in india recovering and being looked after and fed up back to health by the extremely kind and generous people of india for 6 months ,when he was first liberated he weighed less than one hundred pounds at 6ft 2 inches ,he wouldnt talk about the prison camp but did talk about some of his exploits ,he killed many people ,using guns and in hand to hand combat with a knife ,many people belive ww2 was a just war and im not going to dispute that but wars are fought by people ,individuals who will suffer because of their actions ,my grandad was a lapsed catholic ,when his time came to die ,a natural death ,he was afraid ,afraid because he belived he was a murderer and would have to answer to God for his actions , he would not be convinced by any one that he was not responsible for his actions ,he belived killing any one under any circumstances was wrong and i agree with him ,he was sorry for what he had done ,wars are fought by people and people have to answer for their actions ,Micah ch4 v1-4. Isaiah ch65 v 17-25 .

Reading this is food to my mind

Verse 3 it says: Honour widows that are widows indeed.

Can you please explain "What is the meaning of Honour widows that are widows indeed?"

For those who think God is violent and mean, throughout the Old Testament: On 'Bible study tools dot com is an good read on this very subject.

Google this: Is God More Violent in the Old Testament Than the New?

Nope.

Malachi Chapter 3

4 Then shall the offering of Judah and Jerusalem be pleasant unto the LORD, as in the days of old, and as in former years.

5 And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.

6 For I AM THE LORD, I CHANGE NOT; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?

Comment: God corrects. He doesn't change His mind about purpose.

I worked in a Church too as a volunteer in Benevolence, Food Pantry, and Front Desk fill-in for others.

They bought a building that had been a gay spa. We worked hard to pray over it and turn it into a family church.

Yeah, I know how it goes...

I much prefer music ministry that's personal and of the Congregation. I can close my eyes and remember little Baptist country churches; everyone singing and sharing a hymnal. Fried chicken dinners out on the lawn afterwards. Nice memories indeed.

I always believed everything I did at Church was, "as unto the Lord". I've had a great, full life. It's sad to see how the government persecutes the American churches now. I pray it gets better.

I did not say what I did against neighborhood churches. Sometimes I wonder how Mega churches are able to manage one-on-one. I'm sure they do tho. We should rejoice even more, as we see the Day of the Lord approaching.

I kinda like getting up early so I can join the birds, praising God. I like to listen to them grumble because the Sun is too slow that day. :D

Then they break out in song as first light breaks out. I do my best praying then.

I meant no criticism. I just hope that when I get my transformed body in heaven; that I don't sound like a frog when I sing.

Love you, brother

I saved one of your posts on Salvation, for my very busy son. Thanks for your devotion.

I was a street minister many years. May the Lord bless you for loving an old man in need.

I used to take a backpack of homemade sandwiches, bags of chips. Or I bought coupon books from McDonalds or other restaurants near where the homeless gathered. Took many of them inside for a meal and some conversation.

I never hurt their feelings by scolding them for drinking. I just tried to get a meal in their stomach. Some Word in their mind before they sleep.

What you did was like-Christ. It was personal, one-to-one. No one ever hurt me, cussed me or walked away. I spent my own money for comic book tracts, because everyone likes those. (Chick Tracts).

You're very blessed my friend.

I've heard soldier testimonies in Church. No one had a dry eye through it. You do not know what you are saying.

I was very young when my parents bought our first tv (60's). We watched the evening news at the dinner table. The Viet Nam war was on it every evening. I saw the people protesting, throwing rocks, taking over college classrooms. I saw the wounded and the flag draped coffins of the dead soldiers. Men placed on litters, others in wheel chairs with no legs. Pain on their still young faces.

Their families were separated from the hate seething crowd of war protesters who screamed 'baby killers' at them' and threw flags at them. The children of the soldiers looked scared.

Seeing it every evening, marked me a Patriot, forever. I feel sorry for you. What you see on your tv is a LIE. National News is owned by antichrist people. Against Christ, against the Flag, against anyone who serves and protects this nation's freedoms.

Once in a while news people do a soldiers story when there aren't any riots, nothing is burning up and they need a soldier's story to pad the time slot.

Millions will be Left Behind after Jesus removes His Church from the Earth. TV will be managed totally by Antichrist. Everything is barcoded or marked now. People are next.

God knows what's in our hearts.

When you learn how to cry real tears for a soldier, or anyone who goes to work in a uniform; you'll understand...maybe? I'm of the last generation; the Terminal Generation.

When Israel reformed as a country in 1948, it activated a prophesy. This Generation will not pass away without witnessing the Return of Jesus Christ to Earth. His feet don't touch the soil, until the LAST battle. Try to find an Arthur E Bloomfield book on prophesy, if you can.

You have no comprehension how close Christians are; to being caught up in the clouds, to Jesus.

I'm not angry. Just sad about all the screaming people do. No happiness. Just a lot of hate.

Mishael

Good day my brothers and sisters in the Lord,

As I may have stated these things before I believe they are a way of pointing to the Divinity of Christ or His pre-existence. Being one with the Father.

Many places throughout the NT it is stated that when we are "born again" we receive the Holy Ghost from above. Which also in many places we have the Spirit of God in us and the Spirit of Christ in us. I hope no one would just want to pick one out of the three.

We are told the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth in several places. We know the Spirit of God is life. As in Genesis 2:7 God brought fourth life to the dust He formed us from by the breath of life. So there's two things that connect directly to John 14:6 Jesus Christ saying "I AM" these things.

We know Jesus Christ is the Mediator between God and man. I don't see any way of someone being this except He were both. God and man. We see even in the OT denoting our Creator having a Son. Before He was born of the flesh here. Proverbs 30:4.

We know about John 1 in that He is the Word of God who became flesh and dwelt among us. Also noted as the Lamb of God from John the baptist. Who also stated that one was coming after him who was before him. John was around six months older than Jesus Christ. This seems to point to pre-existence. Also as another stated to be a perfect sacrifice for the entire world I would think it would have to be more than just a "perfect human". Being the Lamb of God He is part of God.

Again I know some have a their own view of these things. Though to just use the Scripture and let the Holy Ghost be your teacher it is sure.

I want to end this with just saying how thankful I am that Lord has chosen me to have received His Holy Spirit. To live for Him. All the things He has allowed me to see, hear, feel. Priceless. There is nothing else that interests me anymore except to please our Father and thank Him continually for sending us His Son. To be reconciled with the Father through Him.