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Hi Robert.

I just perceived you was preparing to debate the topic, I just wanted you to state your case, There's others that would love to engage in a humble dialog with you if you wish to.

Let's not forget Love, Humility and Meekness is a fruit of the spirit. And the scripture says you shall know them by their fruit.

God blessings to you.

Sacha,

No, don't go. Give it one more week. You know I love you so, baby please don't go.

Help with my anger. Dealing with everything that's coming up in my life. Dealing with people making things so much harder on me than it has to be. I pray for them that they can see the change in my life now. That I'm doing the best with whatever comes my way.

Hey Brother Adam.

I agree, point intended.

Robert,

To be "born again", resurrected whole, you'd have to die first, or else remain a born again sinner.

Robert, there are so many testimonies of those who were blind and now can see and the evidence is seen by others in their regenerated and believing lives now in peace with God and man. Likely you have seen this evidence here and there in this earth.

Carleton

Why is there a discrepancy in the first book of John, when it says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." This is the King's James Version. The JW's version says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was A god." I believe the King's James version to be correct. Am I wrong about this?

Robert,

I completely agree that God does not change, and neither does His word. It is man who has changed God's word and that is what I mean when I say that the tongues that are being taught today are not the tongues of the bible.

The first mention of people receiving the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues is in Acts Chapter 2. But the tongues they were speaking were actual known languages, not the babbling sounds that people are uttering today when they "speak in tongues."

We know that the apostles when they spoke in tongues in Acts Chapter 2 that they were speaking in known languages because those that heard them understood them clearly. They didn't need anyone to interpret because they understood the tongues (languages) that were being spoken to them. The apostles were speaking in the exact dialect of those that were there listening.

The apostles didn't know the languages. But God gave them that ability to speak those various languages in order for them to not only preach the gospel message to those who had come from various places, but to show them that what they were hearing had to be from God because they knew that the apostles had no way of knowing how to speak their language so perfectly. It was a sign to those who heard them speak. The apostles were in compliance with 1 Corinthians 14:22. I wish churches today would do the same.

As far as "tongues" goes, I don't see any resemblance in what's going on in the church today with what was taking place in the early church when the Holy Spirit first came.

God gave Paul the ability to speak in tongues (known languages) more than others as you mentioned. But maybe the reason for that was because God sent Paul to many places to preach the gospel, and he needed the ability to speak in various languages.

Paul never placed very much emphasis on speaking in tongues (languages), but rather that men would prophesy, meaning that they would speak forth the word of God in order to build up the church.

I agree with your comment. I don't believe 2 Samuel 12 refutes anything about God allowing children to go to heaven. Some children die and God is a fair judge whether they were old enough to be accountable, or healthy enough, or have enough opportunity. Those who live and die in remote native islands like north sentinel island who never read a Bible or hear about Jesus simply are going to be judged fairly by God.

Very interesting for quite al many good years!

It has already begun.

The more I study the more I can find the love of Jesus. I pray to Jesus for him to guide me through the valley. I'm Jesus I have to put my Faith. Amen.

Is the Topic of Sexual Impotence suffered by husbands dealt with/or discussed in the word of GOD ?

Dear Martha, God is manifest in three persons, The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit. You are made in the image of God. Spirit Soul and Body. ( 1Th 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.)

Just as you are three beings in one person, God is three persons in one God. Objects in this world have three dimensions. Water can be liquid, solid and gas. It is water. Light can be felt (infrared) seen( visible) and damaging to your skin or eyes(ultraviolet) It is all light.

Yes Jesus is God and has a special function in what is called the Godhead. Acts 17:29

I understand your son's reluctance to work on a day set aside to rest in God. Have him read Romans 14:1-12

Those who are" in Christ", have entered into his rest (sabbath). Jesus said come unto me and I will give thee rest.

Jesus is the sabbath for those who believe on Him for salvation.

Hope this helps.. God bless you richly.

The way I understand, speaking in tongues is the evidence (proof) of receiving the Holy Spirit. How e!se

Can you be sure your have been born again?

Can you prove to Me I'm wrong?

Where did Pharaoh get all the horses for the chariots if all his animals died? "all the animals of Egypt died."

S Spenser ,you didnt answer my question as to why you believe this child went to heaven . These verses are very clear to me ,very simple . Im done on here . Bye every one , may God be mercifull to you all .

Hi Sacha,

Here's a verse where it's often used as the maximum age of accountability.

Numbers 32:11. Surely none of the men that came up out of Egypt, from twenty years old and upward, shall see the land which I sware unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob; because they have not wholly followed me:

Numbers 14:31-35. But your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, them will I bring in, and they shall know the land which ye have despised.

But as for you, your carcases, they shall fall in this wilderness.

And your children shall wander in the wilderness forty years, and bear your whoredoms, until your carcases be wasted in the wilderness.

After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise.

I the LORD have said, I will surely do it unto all this evil congregation, that are gathered together against me: in this wilderness they shall be consumed, and there they shall die.

God bless you

Thank you

HI Sacha

I believe all children that die before the age of accountability goes to Heaven. how can a child turn from something he is not fully aware of? Or how can he turn to someone he his not fully aware of?

Isn't it you who often says "God loves you and wants you with him"? What about little children?

But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. """For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required:""" ( and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.)

What would you require of a child?!!

What about those suffering autism ?

Is God the God of mercy?

Yes he is.

Perhaps someone else would like to touch on this.

God bless, Sacha

What do Abraham mean in the Bible

Hi Sacha

My reply was bringing attention that verse 23 ( But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.) "That verse is a commonly used verse where we see a child going to heaven, having not reaching the age of accountability yet". And yes it is used that way.

In verse 23 King David is answering his servant when the child was sick he fast and wept but when the child died he ate bread "no more mourning" If he was concerned about the child not living long enough to be circumcised that would have brought on more mourning and weeping as he did for Absalom after his death.

2 Samuel 12:21-22. Then said his servants unto him, What thing is this that thou hast done? thou didst fast and weep for the child, while it was alive; but when the child was dead, thou didst rise and eat bread.

And he said, While the child was yet alive, I fasted and wept: for I said, Who can tell whether GOD will be gracious to me, that the child may live?

But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.

Chapter 11:27 we see King David took Bathsheba as his wife and she bore him a child, Chapter 12:14-16 you see the Lord has struck the child with sickness and King David went and lay upon the earth and fasted.

On the seventh day the child died, This don't say that the child was 7 days old, Its how long David fasted.

Scripture don't give us the age of the child. We don't know how much time past between VS 11:27 the child birth, and vs 12:18 when it died.

Besides none of that matters. Circumcision was never for salvation, the book of Galatians is clear on that.

For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love. and Romans. But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Sacha, May CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

In the discussion with S Spencer about David's infant son. If he had died on the nineth day after being circumcised on the eight day. What would have made his death have a different outcome. Circumcision was only a outward sign of being an Israelite. He went to the grave awaiting resurrection as David also knew he would. Only the children of Christ resurrection will never see death or the grave.

This is so spiritual

Robert.

You're right, God's the same and his word is the same, "Whats being taught is different"

This has recently been an ongoing topic on the site, and one that often comes up.

How about you give us your take.

You say the tongues that are being taught today are different than the tongues taught in the Bible. God is the same yesterday today and forever and so is his word. Paul Said he rather speak a language that would Edify the church than speak in tongues but he also said he spoke in tongues more than anyone.

Tell me what denomination ever speaks in tongues.

Thank you for having all this available for people to learn God's Word! God bless all who work on this.

Who were these "officers" recorded in John 18:3?

These particular band and officers were not Roman soldiers. These were Jewish temple officers and their band of subordinates employed by temple officials to enforce the proper entrance and behavior of the Jews' activities when on the temple's campus, or in the temple's structures, and certainly within the temple proper.

Compare the expression "the captain of the temple" (Ac. 4:1; 5:24, 26) identifying the Jewish officer appointed to preserve the temple's sanctity.

Rome did not involve its legionary officers and captains in such Jewish matters, nor would the Jews care to have such Roman Gentile involvement. Rome seldom involved herself in mitigating Jewish disagreements concerning their laws and traditions. Pilate so much as said so when Caiaphas delivered JESUS to Pilate for judgment ( Jn. 18:31): "Take ye HIM, and judge HIM according to your law."

The following explanatory exegesis substantiate that this band and officers were Jews:

1st, they were "from the chief priests and Pharisees" (v.3) and "of the Jews" (v.12). Roman officials would not humiliate themselves into Jewish servitude in such fashion. Doing so would be tantamount to the conquerors serving the conquered.

2nd, John 7:28 and 32 reveals the employment of Jewish officers to accomplish temple tasks and missions. There, CHRIST taught in the temple (v. 28) when "the Pharisees and the chief priests sent officers to take HIM" (v.32). The Pharisees and the chief priests would never send heathen Gentile Roman military officers into the temple for any reason.

The identity of the "officers" recorded in John 18:3 (continued) =

3rd, the officer that "struck JESUS" (v.22) was just "one of the officers" in this plurality. He was in the close and immediate presence, company, and service of the High Priest (v.19). This officer was a Jew because the high priest would not have allowed a Gentile Roman military soldier (officer) in such close quarters for fear of ceremonial defilement (v.28).

Ironically, this officer and his fellow officers may have previously voiced another opinion concerning CHRIST: "Never man spoke like This Man" ( Jn. 7:46).

4th, the officer that struck JESUS (v.22) was a Jew because he thought JESUS disrespected the high priest. A Gentile Roman military officer would consider this confrontation a trivial insult between Jews and would not bother inserting himself in such matters.

5th, the Jews greatly feared potential ceremonial defilement during the Passover (v.28). Therefore, they exercised great care to avoid Gentile contact. These officers were Jews because contact was not a defilement issue (see vv. 3, 12, 18, and 22).

6th, John 19:6 clearly prove the nationality of these officers as Jews. There, the verse implies the officers stand with the chief priests and join their murderous rage demanding Pilate to crucify CHRIST.

7th, Roman military personnel simply would not serve the Jews by accomplishing or enforcing their religious mandates. Rather the reverse would occur. When CHRIST said, "Whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain" ( Mt. 5:41), HE referred to Gentile Roman officials who abused their authority by oppressing the Jews into menial governmental service, usually by delivering posts and dispatches, or by forcing Jews to carry their military and personal packs and equipment. Forcing Simon of Cyrene to bear CHRIST's cross is a Scriptural example of such compelling ( Mt. 27:32; Mk. 15:21; Lu. 23:26).

Hi S Spencer ,i believe you are in error , David fasted and prayed to God for his son because he wanted his son to live long enough to enter into a covenant relationship with God by being circumcised on the 8th day . The baby boy died before he was old enough to be circumcised and David says : i shall go to him (in the grave) but he shall not return to me (be ressurected ) . If you are able ,please explain to me why you believe this baby went to heaven ,thankyou in anticipation .

Robert M Nkambule - in Reply on Exodus 3:15

By that reasoning, Jesus's name is also wrong. So if Jesus's name is wrong, then what have you been calling the Son of God?

Jehovah is the English translation of the Tetragrammaton. It is also translated to other languages as- Yehowa, Ehoba, Jehov, Jeova, etc.