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His name then, was Lucifer. Search on that.

If the Father's spirit is all good and the darkness brings forth evil, then Mathew has to be true that if there is darkness at all in us it is all darkness. If the Fathers spirit is in us it is all light.

Thank you Gregg for putting that question out here. I have also had the same question weighing on me. Thank you Jesse and Richard for your responses and guidance. God Bless my brothers in Christ.

Verse 8

Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit , after the tradition of men , after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ .

May God bless his word to you !

I Love the word of God , it is strength to those that believe and Trust it .

It will keep you from evil at all levels .

Please pray for me! I was in an accident in 2017. I have 3 bulging disc. One in my neck and 2 in my back. Also have knee pain too. I have been in sooo much pain since the accident. God please heal me in Jesus Name Amen

Thanks, Amen Adam.

pray for daily situaiton and pray to God to open an opportunity.

Challenges crossed our path and always look to the finisher of our faith

Thank you God bless you.

The Deity of Christ bridging over from the old testament on to the new testament.

Malachi 2:17- Malachi 3:1. Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them; or, Where is the God of judgment?

Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.

Isaiah 40:3. The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

Mark 1:2-4

As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.

NOTE: In Isaiah and Malachi the plural form for God is used. ( El-o-heem' ) as it is in Deuteronomy 6:4.

Who was the messenger preparing the way for God as mentioned? 'John the baptist'

When God came who did he show up as? " The Lord Jesus Christ. God bless.

Rhonda,

The word BEMA is not found in our English bibles. It is found in the Greek text and it is a word that refers to the judgment seat of Christ, the BEMA seat. This is not the same as the Great White Throne judgment. This is the judgment seat of Christ.

The phrase "Judgment seat of Christ" is found in a few places in the NT. 2 Corinthians 5:10 is one place. All believers will appear before the BEMA seat of Christ.

The Bema seat was the platform that the Roman officials would sit on at the Coliseum games as they were meting out judgment. But it's more known for the stand which you come to at the Olympic Games after you run your race to get your prize.

If you watch the Olympics, the first, second, and third-place athletes, get up on this stand and they give them a medal. And they stand up there and play the anthem of the person that came in first place.

That is the same as the Bema seat or judgment seat of Christ. It's not the judgment of heaven and hell. We are already assured of heaven in Christ. But we will be judged and that judgment is described for us in 1 Corinthians Chapter 3.

Hi SACHA,

You asked in your post for someone to explain Mark 13:32 and genesis 22,

Here is Mark 13:32. But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. There is nothing to explain there! Jesus says the son don't know and I believe him, And I agree with you Genesis 22 is a foreshadowing of God sacrificing the Lord, you asked how can Jesus be the sacrifice and the sacrificer, no point in explaining that either. The difference between me and you is you need an explanation to believe, I believe without the explanation, I also believe when the Lord says I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. I believe that because he said it. I also believe Isaiah 9:6, John 14:9, and many other verses that proves his deity,

As equal important I believe Genesis 1:1. and I believe And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. I believe it because he's GOD! Jesus said he was not of this world, the scripture says Jesus came out of the bosom of the father and he go back to the father, Sacha The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. God is the creator who speaks things to exist out of thin air!! There is NOTHING he cant do! Do you believe that? If you do then your problem is not believing Mark 13:32, Your problem is accepting Mark 13:32. If God wanted to manifest himself into 10 beings at one time, disperse them all over the world with the father being the living Devine headquarters from whence they came, limiting them, and bring them back to there former Glory, Can he do it? NOTE: I'm not asking you did he do it! I'M ASKING YOU CAN HE DO IT? Yes he can. When it come to Jesus being The Almighty, Everlasting father, the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending. "GOD" manifesting himself in the flesh, The scripture says that's who he is and that's what he did. And I believe it.

2 cor. 10:4,5 cast down every thought that is contrary to GODS word! It's a lie! John 8 :44 devil liar and father of it.

Good evening Jesse, I support what you wrote mostly. I am a strong believer in the Church of God including separation of offending members for their own good and to keep the Church pure. You know the verses far better than I. There is a blessing in all Christians heeding to the warnings of the end times and reminding others by love that they have an ally to the flesh that is not their friend. We understand him to be Satan who has dominion in this world, but we are not of this world by our faith in Jesus Christ our Lord, that we live in Him. We love Him, because he first loved us so much that he died in our behalf.

On another note, the other Jesse a state north and his wife and daughter sent a nice note (received today) of Christian encouragement to stay True.

God bless your meditations in the Lord.

Carleton

There are two men in our church that are battling a different type of cancer each. What is battling prostate cancer the other battling bladder cancer one's name is William the other is Robert I asked that everyone that reads this prayer request what ask the Lord to touch them in a very special way. Thanks and God bless

Chris,

Also, we can look at Philippians 2:6 which says, Who (Referring to Jesus), being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:



2 Corinthians 4:4 says, "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."

There is a word in the Greek text that can be defined as the out beam, or radiance of God's glory. It is the word APOUGASMA. It is a word used to describe Christ, being the out beam of God's glory.

I like to imagine shining a flashlight on a wall in a pitch-black room. The light I see on the wall is Christ. But if I were to take that same flashlight and point it at my eyes, its brightness would be so great that it would blind me. Thus, our image of the Divine Glory of God is enlightened and more vivid by the beauty of the scriptures!

I believe what the inspired writer of Hebrews wanted his readers to draw is apparent and fitting. Christ is the "effulgence" of God's glory ( Hebrews 1:3) because as the Word, He became flesh so that the grace and truth of God's glory could be seen by all ( John 1:14,17-18).

Jesus is the true light that radiates forth prevailing over all shades of darkness ( John 1:5). Just as no one can stare directly into the beam of the flashlight or spotlight without being blinded by the extreme brightness, in like manner, none can see the Father because of His Divine Glory.

But, as the light of the flashlight shines forth from the bulb revealing its essence, Jesus shines forth as the visible manifestation by which the knowledge of the glory of God is declared to all ( John 1:14,18; 2 Corinthians 4:6). For he who sees Jesus beholds the Father! ( John 12:45; 14:9,10).

Thanks Chris!

Dear Ron, I only see one post by you in this thread and it sounds like you're referring to another thread, so it's unclear what conversation you're referring to or what you believe on the subject being discussed. You suggested that I'm closed off. Actually I've been quite open to get others' opinion on this subject of Jesus's divinity which the Bible is black and white on. But after hearing a variety of arguments, reading, and praying about it, it's clear that satan is working overtime to deceive Christians into doubting the Bible. It's almost unbelievable to witness how some can just completely disregard certain verses because it's inconvenient to them, so they reinterpret it to suit their needs. The devil loves seeing someone doubt and develop cracks in their foundation which then grow and become crevases and canyons. Some here have even admitted they not only don't believe other parts of the Bible either. That's really sad and sickening to hear this.

John 1:1 - if someone doesn't believe this verse then they are refusing to believe part of the Bible, part of God's Word. It's so simple even 4 year olds can understand it. It's clear what it means and it's cute to read the mental gymnastics some attempt to twist it into something else, but nope, it means exactly what it says, even if you prefer it to not say it. I must ask, what's the real reason for people denying Christ and denying His divinity? Does it take faith for that... or the opposite of faith? Is such doubt from God... or from the opposite of God?

You said this is defended. Yes, the truth should be defended. Jesus should be defended. Anyone who considers himself a Christian should follow Christ and defend Him, and defend the truth in love. God bless.

Hi Sacha,

That last sentence I wrote was just to put it out there. I know you did not say anything about that. It was for someone else who said "God doesn't have hands". I apologize that it came out like that.

Also me stating that I didn't want to "argue" about this topic anymore was not that you and I are arguing. You seem kind in your posts and why I wanted to reply to you.

About Abraham offering up his son to be a kind of parallel to the sacrifice of our Lord Jesus Christ I understand. As of coarse it is not exactly the same but numerous parallels. As with others previously someone was interested in parallels to Jesus Christ being dead three days. Some parallels are with Abraham Genesis 22:4, Jonah being in the whales belly Jonah 1:17, Israel being raised on the third day Hosea 6:1-2, David not eat/drink for 3 days & nights (1 Samual 30:12.

The Holy Bible is the living Word of God. There are many, many, things deeper that we can plainly see. Although all we need is right in front of us.

So to reply to the other post you made. About not believing in the devil, not believing in "hell", or you not believing any of us are going to Heaven. As I have made this statement to another on this page. The things I have experienced, in less than two years, most people of this world would not believe. Because they are not of this physical world.

I don't want to get into a discussion about those things you stated as they are just your beliefs. I will not waste my energy going back and forth with anyone on those things. The thing that saddens me the most is you stating "you don't think any of us are going to Heaven". How can you state something like that? So you do not believe the Scriptures and the teachings therein? So it seems?

All I can say is pray to Jesus Christ to set you free and lead you to the truth. Pour your heart out to Him.

Thank you for your time and please do not take anything I wrote as harsh. It was only meant to try and help.

God Bless.

Greetings in Jesus' name, Carleton.

The bible says:

1 Corinthians 3:11

For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

So, my foundation is not a "she" or "her", but a He; verily the Lord Christ Jesus.

1 Peter 2:7-9

King James Version

7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

And upon that rock, Jesus built His Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

The Church is not the rock.

She is built on that rock, which is Christ.

Who is she you ask?

1 Peter 2:9

But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Amen.

She's a worldwide body of disciples baptized in Jesus' name (not titles F, S, & HG) for the remission of their sins (& not as an "outward showing of an inward change" or "public profession of faith"),

& filled with His Holy Spirit walking in his commandments continuing in His word ( John 8:31-32).

Where is she you ask?

John 11:52

And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.

She's scattered abroad throughout all the world,& doesn't exist in buildings built by men with fancy titles & big screens and p.a. systems, but in eachother's houses & in the streets confessing Christ to others (Roman's 10:9) for this is how Christians SHALL be saved.

Praise the Lord!

Now let me ask you;

How were you saved & unto what were you baptized?

Well, Richard,

The seed was sowed whether they were interested or not. Just like in the Parable of the Sower, only one out of the four actually was able to bear the fruit of salvation!

Remain strong in Christ who is our strength!

And Jesse, just to add a portion of Scripture that I often refer to (& to which bro. Adam has recently & correctly highlighted in another comment), is 1 John 4:1-3:

"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."

To affirm & confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh, is NOT simply a belief that there was an historical Jesus on Earth Who went about doing good & speaking the Words of God - even the devils know that fact (an abundance of references exist showing Jesus dealing with them). But to confess that this Jesus had a pre-existence (to which we now know that He was vitally & inseparably connected to the Godhead from Eternity to Eternity, known as the Word of God ( John 1:1 & Revelation 19:13)), has "in due time" (God's appointed time) appeared to mankind from God to be given flesh & be called the Son of God & to lay down His Life for sinners.

Any departure from this great Truth was the overwhelming burden on the Apostle John's heart as he had the constant battle before him to warn & protect the children of God from the intrusions of Gnosticism into the Church. And particularly an offshoot of it (Docetism) which taught "that the incarnation was incredible (unbelievable, false), because Deity cannot unite itself with anything material, such as a body". How sad that Christians even today are gripped with that false belief & proclaiming that God, by sending out His Word, could not have assumed a body of flesh (the incarnation). John tells us that the spirit of antichrist was alive & well then as we even see it today.

What is 'BEAMA'? And where is it in the Bible? Thanks!

the bible has all of our answers as we read it and obey it we have our solutions!

Also the Pope has the power to forgive sin. The Devil has but a short time, American President has power to pardon citizens of their crimes against man's laws.

Rome, the beast of the sea, was dealt a mortal wound but didn't die, it was divided into two empires, western and eastern empire, harlot and false prophet, the western empire was falling, those two empires joined together to form the papacy, the beast of the Earth, the last roman emperor past on his power and authority to the pontiff. Also they past on their solar calendar, the image of the beast.

So very true Jesse. Just as you, right after I was saved all I wanted to do was tell others about Jesus Christ. Pretty much every person I knew, previous work, friends, family, I told. Though only a very few were interested. Also just a different way to state what you said. Let the Lord guide your ways. Proverbs 3:5-6. Amen.

I cant sleep until i get this last bit out , Genesis 22 is much more than the story of the testing of Abrahams faith ,it is the foreshadow of Christ sacrifice ,Isaac even carries the wood ,Abraham says 'God will provide Himself a lamb for a burnt offering ' ,Isaac completely submits to his fathers will and there was a ram caught in a thicket which is Christ with a crown of thorns , its the story of a father sacrificing his only son, whom he loves ,if we accept that this is a foresshadowing of Jesus' sacrifice then Jesus cant be the sacrifice and the one who does the sacrificing ,the romans didnt kill Jesus and neither did the jews ,God sacrificed His only begotten Son ,who unlike Adam obeyed God totally and was therefore sinless and not deserving of death , as Adam and we do deserve it .This is not just the story of the trial of Abrahams faith it is the foreshadowing of the future and there is a sacrificer and a sacrifice.Father and son .Thankyou and goodnight and God bless you all for being so generous to me .

Lyn,

There are 5 verses you are listing. Is there a particular verse you are needing help with? Or, what specifically would be your question? This section in Titus Chapter 1, Verses 5-16 is giving us instruction on leadership. If you have a specific question on that section, I would be happy to try and help you. But to go over each verse would take more than one post. I would also be willing to do that for you if you wish?

Hello there Carleton,

I tend to agree. Satan constantly pursues and chases us (DIOKO) around in order to keep us distracted from the things of the Lord. He can't steal us away from Christ because in order to do that, he would have to penetrate God's Spirit in us, and he can't do that. But he can keep our minds occupied (MERIMNA) with the physical things of this world.

Once we are saved, the battle that takes place is for our mind. We are to grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and Satan does everything in his power to keep us from growing.

Paul fought for the believer's mind. 2 Corinthians 10:4-6 is one of my favorite pieces of scripture, especially Verse 5 which says "For pulling down reasonings and every high thing exalting itself against the knowledge of God and taking captive every thought into the obedience of Christ;

Even though we are constantly being chased, we are to resist. Don't even run. We don't have to fight Satan because he's already been defeated. So don't even run. The psalmist wrote in Psalm 46:10, "Be still and know that I am God!" Satan can chase us, he can attack our flesh, but he cannot touch our soul which has been sealed by God's Spirit.

Dear Adam, you did not say you were addressing me but if you were not please dismiss this. I am not aware anywhere in my post denying Jesus is Lord. Jesus is our Lord and Savior. I have not denied the divinity of Christ. Jesus is the only begotten Son of God and was begotten before the world. No one on earth can say how that came to be. Jesus gave up the glory he had and came in the flesh to be sacrificed for our sins. God placed Jesus above every name in heaven or earth and only in His name is salvation. Jesus is the only mediator between us and the Father. He is the High priest that went in once with his own blood and anointed the Most Holy not made with hands.

Jesus is King of Kings, He is Lord of Lords He is the Lamb of God He is my Redeemer Christ is the first fruits. Jesus sits on the right hand of God, angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him. He will reign until he puts all enemies under his feet. How much more divine can that be.

I am sorry if I can not find any scripture that the trinity has anything to do with salvation and if not, it has no effect on being a Christian, causing the denying the divinity of Jesus. I see no reason to tell the definitions of your other post, it would not make you any less upset. With all due respect, I see no reason to discuss this anymore. This subject is so dogmatically defended with no room to discuss. There's more I could say but your words are clear the door is closed. As far as I'm concerned this discussion is over. sorry Ron