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Revelations Chapter 12 1:17, what Child Is this about Jesus? If so, why does Revelations state that A Woman was about to give birth and the dragon let a flood out of it's mouth to wash the woman away. The earth took the flood away. I am confused, are they refering to Jesus?

Thank You,

God Bless,

Carla Zgabay

Hello S Spencer,

Thank you for that kind reply. It seems we have the same mind as I enjoy to read and agree with your detailed posts. Just as you stated Matthew 7:20-23. I also brought that up in that it doesn't matter how much we prophecy, or cast out devils(speaking in tongues also) that is not what saves us. God searches hearts and knows His sheep.

As in another post of yours I also agree Jesus Christ pre-existed. Having Scripture that shows this. Thank you for all of your detailed posts. You also being connect to the true vine our Lord Jesus Christ.

Revelation 21:22-23 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

Revelation 22:1-7 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve Him:

And they shall see His face; and His name shall be in their foreheads.

And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

And He said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent His angel to shew unto His servants the things which must shortly be done.

Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

Yes John inherited flesh from Adam and needed to be born again .

But When God the father wants to do something or use someone, no one can prevent him from his will .

Remember Jesus said God could raise up stones to worship as Jesus came into Jerusalem on a donkey ?

With God all things are possible, he proves that often .

If God chooses to use anyone he will equip and use them .

So John the man was used by God , read about it ...

God seems to enjoy doing the impossible for those that trust him . How about the parting of the Red Sea ! That's contrary to the laws of nature . So many examples in the bible .

Yea, of a truth; the roman catholic church is responsible for renaming pagan gods (i.e. "God the son" aka nimrod & "God the holy spirit" aka semiramis; which are no gods) & pagan festivals to cause unlearned "christians" who don't study the scriptures and do their due dilligence to go to hell.

If you research the origin of the christ-mass (which literally means the massacre of Christ) aka "christmas" you will find out that it is actually the roman pagan festival called saturnalia. Jesus Christ wasn't born on Dec 25th, nor was his birthday celebrated in Scripture. Dec. 25th is the winter solstice when the Sun-god is worshipped by pagans.

Likewise Easter is actually a pagan holiday in reverence to ishtar aka diana aka semiramis : the pagan sun goddess of fertility.

This is why all 501c3 roman/babylonian whorehouses masquerading as "churches" all have easter sunrise service where they face the east.

This is why Herod celebrated easter.

But the great whore MYSTERY BABYLON MOTHER OF HARLOTS (aka the roman catholic church) and all her jesui infiltrated daughters don't want you to know that.

"Take heed that no man deceive you."

-Jesus Christ

What is Nisan 14?

Dear Adam,

With all due respect, I've given you the word of God, not my interpretation, and you have rejected it choosing to cleave to the witchcraft/theology of rome and her 501c3 seminary indoctrinated sorcerers.

The problem here is when I read John 1:1, "and the Word was God"; I believe it as it is written, the written (yes every word of the kjv) or spoken word/logos was God (in the beginning it was only spoken). The Word was with God and the Word was God. Verily in the same way my Word also is with me and I am my Word, it represents me.

But when you read John 1:1, you believe the word; Word: actually means Son of God or Christ. This is because you have been taught to believe this by Rome. This is called witchcraft, the purposeful twisting of words to mean something other than what they mean.

God didn't die on a cross.

God cannot die, and has never been born. He is without beginning or ending.

The Holy Spirit is eternal.

The son of God, the man Christ Jesus( 1 Tim. 2:5) died on a cross, and God resurrected him.

Yes Jesus Christ was a man.

But he wasn't just any man, he was the son of God born without sin, because the Holy Spirit was his Father and a virgin was his mother, therefore he was not born under the curse of Adam, and he lived a sinless life yet being tempted in all the ways we are so he would be the sinless sacrifice for all humanity.

He was also that prophet spoken of by God to Moses:

Deuteronomy 18:18

18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

Just because He spoke the words of His Father (as you referenced John 8:58), does not make Him a "person of the godhead". Many prophets spoke the word of God and didn't claim to be part of the godhead. That is heresy. The word godhead is a singular word, not plural and there are no "persons" in it.

This is your final admonition to come out of Babylon (rome).

Be well.

Matthew 13:16-17 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

Matthew 13:47-50 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:

Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.

So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,

And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Jesus Christ, the Son of God; is called the Everlasting Father because He is now seated on the throne on the right hand of the Father (remember God is a Spirit he doesn't have hands- right hand just means place of authority(like "right hand man" - this is why he said in Matthew 28:18 " all authority has been given to me in heaven and earth") in his glorified body and the same Holy Spirit dwelling in that glorified body.

This is how Jesus and the Father are one:

By the Holy Spirit (who is His Father) dwelling in Him.

That same Holy Spirit dwells in Christians and causes them to speak in tongues & prophesy.

Praise the Lord!

Greetings in Jesus' name, Josephine.

The Israelites kept their sabbath based on a lunar calendar. We can always see the sabbath and the new moon referenced together. The sabbath day was always the day after the new moon..and then every 7th day after that until the next new moon.

So it is not a certain day of the week on the gregorian (named after pope gregory) calendar.

For this month since the last new moon it has been on the day we call Saturday, which by no coincidence was also the day passover fell on.

That said, the sabbath day is a holy convocation pointing to the 7th day 1000 year reign of Jesus Christ and His bride. This is the rest that remaineth spoken of in Hebrews. Christians do no enter into a day of the week. However, there is nothing wrong with observing the sabbath, and meeting with other Christians on the Lord's day (the day after); the first day of the week.

I hope this blesses you.

Be well, Andrew

Thanks for sharing your evidence. I agree with all the scriptures and believe and trust in the Bible. I don't trust your interpretion of it, however, as to arrive at such a conclusion you first have to cherrypick a few verses and ignore many verses. Secondly, the few cherrypicked have to then be interpreted in an unconventional, distorted way.

So, it sounds like you don't believe Jesus is God, despite the scripture clearly saying that in these scriptures and elsewhere: John 10:30, John 1:1, 1 John 5:7-8. Jesus is the Word and the Word is God is 100% clear to even children readers.

The first piece of evidence you used to claim He's not God is Matthew 16:15-17 saying He's the Son of God. But these aren't mutually exclusive. It sounds like you're assuming Jesus somehow can't be both God and the son of God. That's not much different than someone claiming God the Father can't be God, because He's the Father. So, I think your interpretation of this being 'evidence' that Jesus isn't God is a false assumption.

2 Corinthians 5:19 - God in Christ. That too doesn't mean Christ isn't God's son or isn't God. That involves making yet another assumption.

John 20:17 - this is your strongest piece of evidence, but again, I believe you have to make another false assumption and ignore earlier in the same book where it clearly says the Word (Jesus) was God. How can you refute that verse so easily. The Bible says Jesus is God in many places, He had the power of God to perform miracles, He died for you, and you prefer to ignore the parts of John that say He's God in favor of the part that says His father is God to draw such a conclusion. Just because you have a hard time understanding the trinity doesn't mean one must rush to such a conclusion to disregard John 1:1, John 1:14, John 8:58, Titus 2:13, Matthew 1:23, etc.

One thing I do agree with you on is to not trust man's interpretation. That's why I don't trust your interpretation, but trust what the Bible says. God bless you.

I Corinthians chapters 12-14

The Holy Spirit now in operation on earth since the day of Pentecost (book of Acts).

Jesus ascended to sit at the right hand of God; He delegated gift giving to the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit gives the gifts of the Spirit, as He wills. He is the Spirit of Jesus Christ, on earth, now.

If it's in the New Testament, then it is New Testament living for now till Jesus comes back. This is a new and better Covenant. Each born again Christian is indwelled by the Holy Spirit. "Know ye not you are the Temple of the living God?"

If we don't read our Bibles beyond, Psalm 23, 1 John 1:9, Psalm 51 or Genesis; Matthew 25:29-46, we'll miss seeing the Ministry Gifts.

The whole of the purpose of the Cross was to strip Satan of his power he stole from Adam; Ratify the New Covenant with His Blood. To deliver the Holy Spirit to the New Testament Church

(Pentecost). Jesus would then be in every born again believers, spirit. Fulfill all outstanding Prophesy; start writing the New Testament down

If we are skittish about Tongues, the Holy Spirit knows that. He's in us. We're the temple. Scripture says to desire the best gifts or operations, like: government, hospitality, missions, and more, like ministry gifts=prophets, teachers, pastors, evangelists, apostles. Etc. It's written.

New Testament disciples and believers were saying things like, I follow Peter or Paul and others. It was new and that's how people think to identify. Herd mentality.

Habakkuk 2:2

And the LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon table ,so that he may run that readeth it. (They didn't have paper notebooks then, or personal Bibles!)

You will find your identity in the pages of your Bible. I've said that for 36 years. Jesus will help us understand our particular equippings. He hasn't told me to scratch that one out and move along; so, it still stands as Rhema. Google that word...

Believe Jesus's words. Bible.

Thanks Ron. It's always a good thing to get an understanding, and to give understanding in all things. It helps us to see each other in the same way GOD sees us. As written, "Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and in all your getting get understanding". Lastly, a wise man will hear and increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels". GOD Bless!

Very good detail to come up with in your study Jesse. As I checked you are correct and the word "gifts" is not in the Textus Receptus in ( 1 Corinthians 12:1. Great job! God shall choose what gifts to bloom through His Holy Ghost in all His different members of the body of Christ. By His Will. Amen.

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Find her post in room history in the numbered links at the bottom of this page. It's in there, you'll find it. Click on REPLY once or many.

We will see the new comments in here again.

I believe the word Easter was used to disguise the holiday descending from 'Astarte' or Ishtar?

Pagan gods worshipped by unbelievers.

I also heard the Catholic Church was involved in the re-naming...

Anyone else??

Comon Chris. :D

Jesus observed and worshiped on sabbath day as we have read from the bible ,Which is this day of sabbath ? dowe as followers of Chirst keep it?

I really enjoy reading the Bible on your site, but the book of 2 Corintians looks strange and I don't particularly like all the paragraphs run together like that. Weird

John 17:5And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

When he was returned to his Glory he addresses his self the way he did in the old testament.

Isaiah 9:6(KJV) For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, (((THE MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, THE PRINCE OF PEACE ))).

Can someone tell me why is the SON called the everlasting FATHER inIsaiah 9:6??

Look at the opening of Revelation 1:1.

( The Revelation of Jesus Christ.)

""The unveiling "" The climatic declaration of who he is.

Look how he declares himself to John.

Revelation 1:8I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, ((THE ALMIGHTY!!))

Here is how Almighty is defined in Revelation:

Greek:

Transliteration: pantokratr

Pronunciation: pan-tok-rat'-ore

Definition: From G3956 and G2904; the all ruling that is God (as absolute and universal sovereign): - Almighty Omnipotent.

KJV Usage: Almighty(9x), omnipotent(1x).

Occurs: 10

In verses: 10

"" ME AND MY FATHER ARE ONE""

Furthermore, on an equally serious topic:

May I ask; unto what were you baptized and have you received the gift of the Holy Ghost (as evidenced by speaking in an unknown tongue) ?

Verse 10: As we have opportunity let us do good to all men especially to those of the household of faith. Question: Who are those of the household of faith and Why is more attention given to them?

Hi Richard,

Thank you for your humidity and longsuffering displaying fruit, something we get by being connected to the true vine,

That's confirmation to the onlookers that you are a believer in Christ

I also believe in gifts of the spirit but not as for confirming salvation,

Balaams donkey prophesied that don't mean he was saved.

Look at the contrast below in vs 20, fruit is confirmation to the onlookers but notice vs 22 and 23, The Lord didn't reject claim of prophesying. They were fruitless, never connected to the vine.

Matthew 7:20-23

20: Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22: Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23: And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

I believe in spiritual gifts but for edifying the body

I believe the gift of tongues has ceased,

Again Thank you for showing what being joined with Christ should look like.

Verily, I have received this truth by revelation of my Father in heaven. The same way Peter received it and proclaimed when Jesus asked him

15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

- Matthew 16:15-17

Jesus is the Son of God.

Do you see?

He's not the pagan babylonian/roman "god the son"

2 Corinthians 5:19

King James Version

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

The Holy Scriptures proclaim

God was in Christ.

Not God was Christ. Or Christ was God.

This is why Jesus told Mary after he was risen:

John 20:17

Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God

Jesus had a Father and a God and that God was in Him and in Heaven @ the same time.

When you say Jesus was fully God you exalt the flesh and create an idol for yourself.

All the pagan religions have a trinity: starting with the original mystery of iniquity in Babylon (nimrod semiramis and tammuz) to Hinduism, greek gods, roman gods etc.



Christian's only believe in one God, the Father of the Lord Jesus Christ who is the Holy Spirit.

The verses you referenced speak nothing of a "trinity" of Gods. 1 John 5:7 is speaking of God the Father who is in heaven.

And 1 John 5:8 is speaking of the blood covenant by baptism of water and Spirit on the earth.

John 8:31-32

Trust in the word and forsake the teachings of deceived men.

Be well, in Jesus' name

Respectfully, that is your opinion, and not what the scripture declares. You have chosen to interpret the Bible a certain way and that is your opinion. Most Christians don't read the Bible in the way you describe and disagree with you. But what really matters is what God says the truth is. There's been some fake news circulating around lately where some are claiming Jesus isn't God, but a few Bible scriptures debunk that lie very quickly.

Here's what the scripture declares: John 10:30. John 1:1. 1 John 5:7-8.

The heresy of claiming Jesus didn't become man and wasn't who he said he was even occurred back in Jesus' times and is even in the Bible! 1 John 4:2; 2 John 7. It literally calls these people spreading the lies the antichrist.

So, the Bible clearly says that Jesus is God and was fully man. Since it says that, the phrase Jesus was fully God and fully man sounds true. Just because the phrase in that word order doesn't appear in the Bible doesn't mean it's not 100% true. The Bible also doesn't use the word restroom anywhere, but that doesn't mean people never had to use a bathroom or toilet.

Since it clearly says in the Bible it's true, it seems like an unusual argument to make against it being true. It doesn't seem like such an argument would come without scripture evidence or without serious prayer asking God if this is true or not, before spreading such information around. The Bible calling someone an antichrist is not a joke- that is a serious offense to mislead others and try to stir up doubt in the body of Christ. So, what is your evidence of this and have you first prayed to God and asked for confirmation if this idea contrary to scripture is "true"?

God bless...

Jesus is our Passover Lamb. Easter is not in the Bible. Where did it start to be observed as Jesus death?

Hi Clara,

From just a simple reading of Genesis chapter 49, it would be difficult to formulate an association of Jacob's twelve sons with the twelve signs of the zodiac. I wonder whether your husband has been influenced by some extra-biblical readings, such as by Thomas Mann and his book, "Joseph and his brothers" written over 17 years (1926-1943). In that book, Mann certainly uses the biblical account of Genesis but adds much more to his book that is clearly unbiblical & taken from other writings or his own imaginations. Or, your husband may have read from other publications to form his view.

As "All Scripture is given by the inspiration of God" ( 2 Timothy 3:16), Jacob could well have given his blessings/prophecy on his sons based on their character & life's propensities, but certainly inspired by God to reveal much more than Jacob would have known. And knowing what an important part the 12 Tribes have played in the history of Israel, it seems clear that those blessings were ordained of God & not as a result of Jacob's consultation with the stars.

Good evening Richard, I am like many, happy to read your thoughts and quickened use of scriptures that back them up. It is a gift.

Thank you, Carleton

Concerning "spiritual gifts" being given to believers, years ago I was taught that the only gift we are actually given is the gift of the Holy Spirit. Our English bibles seem to indicate that God gives us other gifts. But does He?

I did a study in both the KJV and the Textus Receptus about gifts. I began in 1 Corinthians 12:1 where it says "Now concerning spiritual gifts." Our English bible says spiritual gifts, but the Greek does not have the word gifts.



The literal translation from the Greek text reads "Now concerning the things of the Spirit."

The things that we call "gifts," as if God is giving these gifts to us, are not gifts we receive. We are given His Spirit. That's the gift. Everything else that we call a gift, and I think there are nine things that are mentioned, they are not actually gifts that God gives us, but manifestations of His Spirit.

Throughout the NT, there is only one place that the Greek word for gift, as in giving a gift to someone is used. Every other place the word gift is used, a different Greek word is used and it describes the capacities of the Holy Spirit. Paul taught that there is one Spirit and He has all the abilities and capacities for all of the ministry things of God.

The Greek text uses two different words for our word gift. The only place I see the word gift used in the New Testament that refers to a gift that is actually given to us is the gift of the Holy Spirit.

In Acts 2:38, Peter says you shall receive the (gift) of the Holy Ghost. The word gift here is actually a gift that's given. It's the word DIDOMAI. It means to give. Every other place where the word gift is found, the word used is CHARISMA. It comes from the word CHARIS which means grace. CHARISMA is an expression of God's grace. It has nothing to do with a gift that is given to us.

The only gift we are promised and given is the gift of the Holy Spirit. All the other gifts (CHARISMA) are the capacities of God's Spirit and expressions of His grace.

I understand. I've always loved the stories and prophesies about how Jesus came to earth: John's birth and then Jesus. Then the one when John was imprisioned; before his death.

Luke 7:16-39

Especially what John said from the depressing darkness of prison, awaiting death:

And John calling unto him two of his disciples sent them to Jesus, saying, "Art thou he that should come? or look we for another?" Luke 7:19

[Showing that from the least to the greatest, sometimes we have doubts in loneliness and darkness]

24: And when the messengers of John were departed, he (Jesus) began to speak unto the people concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness for to see? A reed shaken with the wind?

25: But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? Behold, they which are gorgeously apparelled, and live delicately, are in kings' courts.

26: But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? Yea, I say unto you, and much more than a prophet.

27: This is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

28: For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.

>Thank you for enduring my posts that are about fond scripture passages that I find comforting.

Mishael

Amen!

Grace & peace to you from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Respectfully,

Jesus was never "fully God & fully man" (that term is not found in scripture)

The man Christ Jesus is called the Christ, because he was annointed with the holy Spirit of his Father. This is the definition of the word; Christ - the annointed one.

When was he annointed? :

Luke 3:22

And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

This is when the fulness of the Godhead (God the Father who is the Holy Spirit - John 4:24/ Leviticus 11:44) began to dwell in the body of His Son ( Colossians 2:9).

Not at His birth.

Yes, Jesus was born of the Holy Spirit (God the Father)-( Matthew 1:18) in the womb of a virgin.

But the Holy Spirit (God) did not begin to dwell in His Son until His baptism by John in the Jordan.. and only then did Jesus begin His 3.5 year ministry of miracles signs and wonders.

This is not my opinion, this is what the scripture declares.