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Thank you Jesse, I just wanted to know if it appeared somewhere before but you have revealed very important tip to me.

The answer to when a Christian is judged and whether he will continue in sin is in Romans Ch.6,7and 8.

Here's fragments pulled out of those scriptures.

Romans 6:3-4. Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Romans 7:25. I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Romans 8:10. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Romans 8:11-14. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

"Positionally the old man have been already charged!

Christ paid the redemptive price on the cross. IT IS FINISHED!!

Romans 8:1. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

It's not a question of judgment It's a question of deception. "are you baptized in his death Positionally? do you have a 2nd nature that you see Paul is mentioning in Romans 7 that fights back against the old Man/old nature?

Christ the first fruit and if the first fruit is Holy the lump is also Holy. Wasn't the resurrection justification? " God's approval,

We have a earnest of the inheritance in the Holyspirit.

To be looking for further judgment suggests we have a works based relationship for salvation and Christ died in vain.

I have seen people state Jesus Christ died for past, present, and future sins. I have never seen this quote in Scripture. I have two verses, two different books and writers, that state quite clear that Christ died for our past sins. Perceive as in Romans Paul talks about our old person is crucified with Christ. So we can walk in newness of life and not serve sin,let not sin reign in your mortal bodies and obey the lusts of the flesh, to not yield our members as instruments unto unrighteousness unto sin!!

Also stating that "God forbid" you sin because of being under the grace of God. This is the same Paul who wrote the verses some people perceive as "believe & have faith in Jesus Christ and your sealed". Basically people stating it doesn't matter if you sin or not.

Like I stated to another person: I hope you're right. In no way, shape, or form do I see this teaching in the Holy Bible. The earliest teachings of Christ were "Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand".

It seems some perceive us who have a zeal to follow Christ, and actually try to separate from the sins of this world, that we are trying to earn our salvation. This is incorrect. For me and other true children of God anyway. The reason I actually try to keep myself away from sin, thanks to the Holy Ghost, is because it is the Will of our Father in Heaven. God never condones sin. He loves the sinner(people/His creation) but hates sin.

We are not taking anything away from our Lord and none of us will ever be "perfect". Jesus Christ was our perfect example and we should try to follow Him. Do you love the Lord or the sins of this world??

I am not posting this to get into an argument. Would you put your soul on the line that it's ok to sin or doesn't matter? Even if I was wrong and I didn't have to repent and strive to separate myself from the sins of this world for the Lord. For me it doesn't matter. I'm not doing it for myself. I do it to honor and glorify our Father. Let your light shine!

I'm a paranoid schizophrenic & I been having a lot of anxiety/panic attacks I've also been in the midst of spiritual warfare I'm praying and trusting God to deliver me from these attacks and spiritual enemies.

Brother Richard in Christ,

Thank you so much for your reply and your opinion that I asked for.

I do suffer greatly for I blame myself for my wife's illness...tempting God and Satan to do their worst to me.

however, I always think that there is always someone else in this world that is worse off than I.

And Jesus suffer the greatest...I still find it difficult to read the wicked things that were done to Jesus.

You are right...I have been blessed and I feel that I have been saved and it is my time to suffer ...I am trying to love God with all my body, mind and soul; and love thy neighbor.

My prayers for my wife may never come to fruition...I know...only God knows what the plan is.

God bless you.

I agree that there are two judgements. Everyone will be judged but there will be two separate judgments.

The first judgement will be for believers. It is called the judgement seat of Christ (Bema Seat). Believers will not be judged for salvation because our sins have been forgiven by Christ's sacrifice on the cross.

Believers will stand before Christ at the Bema Seat and give an account of their lives. What is not of Christ will burn but we ourselves will pass through the fire ( 1 Corinthians 3:15).

This particular judgement is to determine our reward.

The second judgement will happen at a later time and this judgement will be for non-believers. This is called the Great White Throne judgement. The non-believers will be judged and cast into the lake of fire.

So we will all be judged. We just want to make sure we are part of the first judgement, the Bema Seat of Christ.

Colossians 2:7...We are to abound in the love and the understanding of the truth that is in Christ, with thanksgiving. It is not saying to abound in thanksgiving. Thanksgiving abounds in itself from abounding in the things that draw us closer and closer to Christ.

why is there a different name used in various translations, in regard to Manasseh and Moses. the priests referenced here, who ministered to the tribe of Dan, are these priests from the tribe of Manasseh, thus not making them Levites, or are they the grandsons of Moses?

My brother Steve,

After reading your post I am moved to send you a reply. To me it shows your true love to your wife. That you could not bear to leave her & also not wanting her to feel the rejection of you leaving her. As you thought maybe the best thing would be for you to die and give her peace. Jesus Christ states that there is no greater love than to give your life for your friend. John 15:13.

Now after your own sickness or "infection" it has moved over to your wife and now she is in "assisted living". The most important thing is the Lord came and spake to you in your dream stating "This is your cross to bear". This is a blessing and not everyone receives these things. In the most simple sens from what I feel is that this is your time to suffer. Jesus Christ suffered for us, gave His life for us, and now as "this is your cross" this is your time to suffer. Please my brother, stay strong in your faith to the Lord and do not even let death separate you from Jesus Christ. Trust in Him. The devil is not in control and even if this is the evil one's doing.. God knows everything and there is a reason for it. It may be to bring you closer to Him.

Read the book of (1 Peter as it goes over suffering well. 2 Thessalonians 1:5 is a good verse. As a teaching of Jesus Christ in the book of John is that no servant is greater than his Master. If the world hates you or persecutes you remember it did it to me first(paraphrasing) John 15:18-20. In faith I also believe the Lord would mean this to be for suffering. In that if we suffer remember He suffered for us first.

I hope my reply helps you and renews your hope in the Lord. Focus on Him. Keep praying from the heart in humbleness. Do not fear the devil.

God Bless you.

Dear Adam, Yes it is true! You are welcome to visit here any time and even stay with our family if it becomes possible to figure out the details. Of course the best time of the year is spring. Fall is nice too and visiting the ocean in the fall and spring usually means less fog. Earlier I think you addressed a post to me when you meant someone else (I think).

Carleton

In my own experience the Holy Spirit helps us not to sin. I may have a sinful thought at times but I have rebuked myself and that thought goes no further. Thus stopping me from putting my thought into action. This is the Holy Spirit guiding me away from sin.

The Bible does not say that we will all be Judged. Jesus has saved us from the wrath of God. Now there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ.

i like the scriptures

good scriptures

Hello Skip, I am happy that the Lord in His righteousness continues to cover my sin, even today. I am glad that I still have the opportunity to look by faith and be led by His Holy Spirit. However, I remain in the flesh and my flesh remains in this life, in time. Eternity is at the end of the race for my body, though my soul now has entered into his rest by faith. But more rest is to come for a changed body into immortality to match the peace of my soul in eternity.

These verses speak to me related to our discussion.

2 Peter 3:10

1 Timothy 5:24

Romans 4:25

We will always sin, saved and unsaved, till the day we die. The difference between a saved person who sins and a unsaved person who sins is, the saved ones are always uncomfortable living in sin and constantly warring in the flesh against his sins. Like Paul said," the things I don't want to do I do, and the things I do want to do I don't,"(paraphrase).

We all can relate and agree that's what makes the Christian life hard. The unsaved on the other hand, is very comfortable in sins and actually looks forward to doing more. Look what anointed King David did with Bathsheba; adultery and murdered her husband. God bless you

THERE ARE TWO JUDGMENTS

May the Spirit grace us with His truth an understanding.

If there are not two judgments, then how are the saints going to judge the world; because all have to be judged.

1 Peter 4:17 For the time is come (during a persons physical lifetime) that JUDGMEMT must begin at the house of God ( Hebrews 3:6): an if it first begin at us, what shall be the end of them that obey not the gospel of God.

1 Corinthians 11:31-32 For if we would judge ourselves (by the word of God), we should not be judged.

(vs 32) But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord (as children), that we should not be condemned with the world.

1 John 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect (love your enemy), that we may have boldness in the day of judgment (in our lifetime), because as he is (he loves his enemies), so are we in this world.

Jude 1:15 To execute judgement on all, and to convince all (some are convinced in their lifetime some are not)....

2 Thessalonians 1:4-5 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and TRIBULATIONS that you endure:

(vs 5) Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, which you also suffer:

1 Timothy 5:24 Some men's sins are open before hand, going before to judgment; and some men they (judgments) follow after.

There are many more scriptures that confirm two judgments if you look for them; most don't look but are happy to follow the traditions of man.

Hello, maybe you've already made up your mind on this which is different than how some others interpret it. The verses you quoted before don't indicate anything different and support my interpretation. Scripture like 1 Peter chapter 1 are clear to me and countless other verses instruct Christians to not sin.

"They are not able to live according to their old nature."

Some believe that for Christians it's impossible to sin, which I think is a misinterpretation of the Bible that plays into the hand of the enemy. There are Christians who sometimes look at pornography- so does that mean that's not a sin, or some cheat on their wives- not sin? Some have probably even killed- not sin? Seems like a tough argument to make to claim that sin isn't sin. Or that Christians no longer have freewill to sin? We all likely know Christians who have drifted from the faith and have sinned or even denounced the faith.

Not sure if you believe this, but I think the belief of "impossible for Christians to sin" originates from 1 John in 1 John 3:9 and 1 John 5:18, but if you read the context it doesn't say what some are assuming it says. The keywords are who is born of God don't 'practice' sin. Genuine followers won't continue to sin on an ongoing basis.

If you read the whole book of 1 John it explains and shows the context, like right out of the gate in 1 John 1:8-10. So, which is it, can a Christian sin or not?

In chapter 3, it clarifies that its only those who follow commandments. So, an action is required for Christians. It's not like you already won and can disobey and do whatever sin you want. ( 1 John 3:23-24) says that to dwell in Jesus the Christian must obey. If it was a given (automatic) then Jesus wouldn't have kept telling his followers (Christians) to avoid sin. He absolutely pounded this message in them. A true follower should not sin, they should hate it and avoid it at all costs. Matthew 5:30, John 14:15. God bless.

Brian,

"One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it." Rom 14:5-6

"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ." Col 2:16-17

The Sabbath that the Jewish people observed was specifically to give the people AND their work animals a day of rest--no work. There was no instruction to worship on the Sabbath.

But when Gentiles began to believe in Jesus, the Apostles held a council in Jerusalem to determine if Jewish laws were to be imposed on them. Here's how the Apostles responded...

"It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth. For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well." Act 15:25-29

No mention of a Sabbath.

If you choose to worship on Saturday, I have no problem with that. Most Christians gather on Sunday, the first day of the week in honor and thankful memory of the day the The Lord Jesus Christ arose from the grave. And I'm fine with that or any other day a group of believers choose to assemble.

We should not forsake the assembling together, whatever day it be.

I am need of a bibel

If any one seeks the truth they shall find it . Read your KJV and Pay little attention to internet prophets , there are 1000s of them . Trust the word of God and verify it . With the word of God 2 Tim 3 .16 . Or most likely be deceived by men's interpretation of the Bible .

Jesus said many will come in my name .... they have been around a long time now .

God Bless the true seekers . But stick with the scriptures The Lord never disappoints! Amen

Carleton,

The fact is that believers sin every day, maybe even every moment of every day.

"This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us." 1Jn 1:5-10

In this instruction, John uses WE/US throughout: WE believers.

If WE walk IN THE LIGHT, the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth US from all sin. IN THE LIGHT, I believe, refers to the knowledge that has been given to us by The Word of God enlightened by The Holy Spirit.

If WE say that we have NO SIN, we are self deceived and are NOT walking IN THE LIGHT. Then if WE confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive US our sins, and to cleanse US from all unrighteousness.

But WE haven't lost the WE/US relationship to God. We still HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.

How can you HAVE eternal life and then NOT. That's not eternal. That's CONDITIONAL eternal life, if you can keep it.

"My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand."Joh 10:27-29

Are you His sheep or not? Today but not tomorrow?

Can YOU remove yourself from God's Hands?

Jesus said, "MY sheep." How can a regenerate mortal remove him or her self from Jesus' Fold: MY sheep!

Sounds like gathering on the first day ( Acts 20:7) of the week to worship is being confused with observing the Sabbath. These are 2 different things. I think everyday should be a day to worship and honor God. Following Christ as a Christian is a 24/7 lifestyle, not a temporary event once a week. I don't think the specific day people gather is so important. The verse in Acts I don't view as a command, but an example. God bless.

Hi john nsasa thats such a comforting verse ,one of the verses that really gets to me is matthew ch28 v20...'and ,lo, i am with you alway ,even unto the end of the world '.Amen .

Steve Taplin

Hello everyone,

The answers that I seek are either by prayer, or from Scripture...

However, I write to you for your opinion; so please read the following:

My wife and I found real love after finally finding each other through the fate of God. We have been married for 27 years.

In recent years; our relationship had suffered for many reasons, no blame to either but to both of us.

I could not suffer my wife to leave her nor bear her to suffer the rejection.

So, in my mind; I thought that it would be easier for both if she lost me by death rather than by rejection. So I tempted God and Satan to do their worst.

Then it came to pass that I got an infection in my brain and tried to ride it out to death, but reasoning with myself that this may not bring death but rather a lifelong affliction, I finally went to the hospital and a surgeon performed a cranial and then three months of intravenous antibiotics.

I did not fulfill the curse that I wished for.

Shortly thereafter, my wife was stricken with Alzheimers Dementia. She is 55 years of age and now resides in a Personal Care Home.

I believe this disease was manifested through my sins and tempting God and Satan to do their worst, to me.

Now the ambiguous loss and the guilt that I feel is unbearable. My continued tempting of God and Satan to do their worst to me has come to pass.

My wife has become the victim of my sins and tempting the Powers.

This is truly the worst.

I became born again to pray for my wife and ask God to perform a miracle. Remove the demons from my wife and make her whole again, and forsake me instead.

In conclusion;

I had a dream and a clear voice said to me "This is your cross to bear"

When I looked to the internet to find a meaning for this phrase, the first example displayed was;

"when a family member is diagnosed with Alzheimers, this is your cross to bear."

I truly believe this is the devils work.

Are my prayers lost?

Hello Skip, Consider if you will.

Our accounts remain reconciled by God in His Holiness only because he is seeing us, the believer, through the finished work of His son, Jesus Christ in His righteousness. If our faith becomes weak and we fail to look to Jesus as our righteousness then God looks at our account, our own (self) righteousness directly, since that is our free will decision.

Carleton

Acts 10:44-48. It was also to the Gentiles sir. Water baptism in Jesus name. And they received the Holy Ghost by Peters teaching.

Water baptism part 2.

Acts 22: 16:

Paul defense, testimony on trial telling the people; that he was baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

Romans 6: 3, 4:

Paul says those that are saved have been baptized, buried in the name of Jesus.

Ephesians 5: 26:

Christ sanctify and cleanse His church with the washing of WATER by the word.

Colossians 2: 11, 12:

The circumcision of Christ takes place in water baptism.

Hebrews 9: 19, 20:

Our bodies are washed with pure water.

1 Peter 3: 20, 21:

In the days of Noah, 8 souls were saved by water. The like figure even BAPTISM ALSO NOW SAVES US.

In conclusion, water is used to separate you from sin, cut off the flesh to bring you into new covenant with Christ, the NEW BIRTH, BORN AGAIN OF WATER AND SPIRIT!

This was the continuation of water baptism part 1.

Where in scripture does it say the Sabbath day was changed to Sunday the 1st day of the week.

CONSTANTINE was a sun worshipper and the Catholic Church made it permanent.

NOT SCRIPTURAL.

What book in the Bible and verse no pandemic or weapon will come against me