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why do we have sdo many miss under standing in life for so meany houndreds of years

Dear Jesse ,

This is very helpful thank you very much.

It was a question asked by many so I think this text is just what I need to help clarify to my friends.

When we're the dinosaurs and any good ideas it's a question in a class discussion

Dawn,

Jesus stated, "Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."Joh 5:39 and of Jesus it was recorded, "And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself." Luk 24:27

There is a genealogy of Cain and his descendants, BUT this does NOT pertain to the Messiah. And there are other short genealogies in The Scriptures but they are recorded for other reasons. The MAIN genealogy, interestingly recorded centuries before Jesus and some of it not in The Scriptures but assiduously recorded by faithful Jewish scribes, was the Messianic genealogy through King David and his royal lineage.

There is absolutely no evidence of the serpent seed. The serpent was embodied by Lucifer who was the murderer and lier from the beginning, "that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world."

When Jesus stated, "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."Joh 8:44 He was not saying that they could trace their physical lineage back to the Devil any more than believers could trace their physical lineage back to God. EVERYONE's physical lineage goes back to Adam.

Spiritually, we are either of God or of Satan.

please, Jesus! Let her retire tomorrow! Please! Please! Please!!!!! Amen!

Makes sense! Thank you Adam. I am glad you are feeling better.

Inheritance is in the genes.

Hey Carleton, I suspect it just doesn't work for the books with a number in front.

Deborah,

I believe that when we die, our soul departs the physical body. The physical body remains in the ground and awaits the resurrection for a glorified body, but we go to be with the Lord. Paul even said that to be absent from the body (Physical death) is to be present with the Lord. So wherever the Lord is, that's where we will be until we come back with Him to receive our new glorified bodies.

What?? Why would satan "scolded" Christ if Eve was impregnated by him (satan)? That would be like the man sitting across from me on the bus scolding me for my stepfather impregnating my mom - it makes no sense.

Lord, I pray that you will bring peace to this situation.

Jesus, thy will be done in this matter.

Hi Adam, the live links to scriptures are always helpful. I am still trying to figure out how to do it every time the correct way.

Thanks again, Carleton

Hello,

1 Corinthians 15:51 - The dead will be sleeping awaiting Jesus's return, then will meet Him and await judgment.

1 Thessalonians 5:10

There's other verses echoing this if keep reading. Those who say people go immediately to heaven without Jesus coming or without judgment is inconsistent with scripture and I believe is just based on false assumptions about 2 other scriptures. People also feel better saying that at funerals, etc, so I think that's another reason for this commonly being said, despite scriptures not supporting it. This topic has been discussed before here if someone wants to search that. God bless.

I think the purpose of the Church is to know the brethren well enough to wash each others feet and greet with a holy kiss on occasion and a place to marry in the faith and raise children to one day, where they may hopefully choose to live by the faith seen in their parent's lives. A place of reproof and correction. A refuge and a hope. A place of fellowship sweet. A place where peace is witnessed by living testimonies of one another. A place as you mentioned to worship the living God and praise His name by song and scripture and prayer. A place of order and rest and peace. The list could go on. So I think a sincere sojourner with a refreshed spirit by the Living Christ would seek this Church, the bride of Christ ahead of His return.

Dear Richard, Amen!

There is only one Gospel. I truly believe that the infallible rule of interpreting scripture is that scripture interprets itself. All we can do is share our own understanding. We are all fallible human beings capable of misunderstanding. What scares me the most when I share my knowledge with people is that I might mislead someone by what I share, because in the back of my mind, I know I could be wrong. And that is a scary thought knowing that I will be held accountable for everything I share, even if I think "I know."

But you gotta love Paul. He was even bold enough to say that if anyone preached any other gospel than that which I have preached, let him be accursed. How can he make such a bold claim? I believe that it is because he was taught personally by Jesus Christ Himself for three years out in the Arabian Desert. You can't get any better teaching than that. Paul never contradicts what Jesus taught.

God Bless!

Hi Patrick,

Absolutely

Romans 10:8-9. But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

1 John 1:9. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. I Hope that helps

If the serpent impregnated Eve, the devil would have scolded Jesus Christ about being 'of the devil'. He didn't. There is no mention of this in the Bible. It never happened.

Osagie Victor,

The answer I would give you is that the universal church is not an organization or a specific denomination, The universal church is made up of all believers who have been born of God's Spirit. The purpose of the church is to worship God and serve Him.

Hello Richard,

Here is what brings me to my conclusion:

Genesis 2:7 from the Septuagint translated into English says, "and the God molded man from the dust of the land and (breathed into) his face the breath of life and man became into a living soul."

Ezekiel 37:9 from the Greek Septuagint says, "and He said to me "Prophesy son of man, prophesy over the Spirit and tell the Spirit "Thus says The Lord, come out of the four spirits and (breathe into) these dead let them live!"

The prepositional phrase EIS is used in both Genesis 2:7 and Ezekiel 37:9.

There is a specific action taking place in both those verses. The preposition EIS is used with the accusative case in both Genesis 2:7 and Ezekiel 37:9. What that means to me is that it points to the object of verbal action. When I see the prepositional phrase EIS with the accusative, I believe it should be translated by using terms such as into, unto, to, toward, etc. A specific action.

But in John 20:22, the prepositional phrase EIS is not used in that verse in the Textus Receptus. That is why I don't believe the English translation is correct when it says He breathed on them. There's nothing in the Greek text to indicate that action was taken. It should read He breathed in. I see it as Jesus taking a deep breath before saying receive ye the Holy Ghost.

But John 20:22 does not tell us that they received the Holy Ghost.

I do agree that the Holy Spirit fell on many in Acts Chapter 2. But I don't see any indication that anyone had received the Holy Spirit before Christ's ascension into heaven. That is what I was getting at. I believe that salvation takes place once God's Spirit (Holy Spirit) enters into a person, not before.

What I was referring to was that while Jesus was here on this earth, I don't believe anyone had received the Holy Spirit yet. In Acts Chapter 2, yes! This would have been after Christ ascended into heaven.

I hope that I am not causing any confusion here.

Thank you for the response!

Hi TJ,

1 Samuel 16:18 (KJV) Then answered one of the servants, and said, Behold,

I HAVE SEEN a son of Jesse the Beth-lehemite, that is cunning in playing, and a mighty valiant man, and a man of war, and prudent in matters, and a comely person, and the LORD is with him.

I believe your answer is in vs 16.

Hi Bessie,

1 Timothy 5:4 (KJV) But if any widow have children or nephews, let them learn first to shew piety at home, and to requite their parents: for that is good and acceptable before God.

Hi Skip, hope you don't mind, I agree with your "wonder to the angels". I have not read anywhere in scripture that angels will be replaced. In Matt. 25:41 we read the lake of fire was prepared for Satan (devil) and his angels and like everything else, most likely before the foundation of the world, the plan of God. We read in Job1:6 Job 2:1 Satan still has access to heaven, Satan and God are having a conversation about Job. We also see God puts restrictions on Satan.

I Luke.10:18 we read Jesus saw Satan fall as lightning from heaven.

In Revelation 12:10 we read the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down. Satan did not fall in Revelation 12, he was cast out of heaven "neither was their place found any more in heaven". We also see in Revelation 12:11 the reason they were able to cast Satan out. "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony"; This shows this is at least after the crucifying of Jesus, more likely in the future. Also, in Revelation 12, it is permanent, they are rejoicing in heaven Satan will no longer have access to heaven. When Satan is cast out down to earth he gives his power to the beast in Revelation 13.

In the Bible, we can read angels left their first estate and their own habitation and are locked in chains of darkness until judgment day. Jude 1:6 and 2Pet.2:4. Some scriptures say there are demons, evil spirits on the earth, and how they got here there is little information in the Bible how. You have to go outside the Bible and compile a bushel of speculations and pick one but be careful.

Some things are not answered by scriptures but do not affect our salvation. The things we do need are in bold print.

Isaiah 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

Thanks Ron

The fall of mankind originated from Adam and Eve disobeying God.

As such, God set the precedence for man to be mortal, and die.

Isaiah 55:11 supports God's character and statutes, but I don't need that to understand what happened between God, Adam & Eve, or the serpent. I take God by his Word.

This holds true for everything God utters.

God often says "I the LORD have spoken it: it shall come to pass, and I will do it..." Ezekiel 24:14

What of satan's dwellings as listed above?

When we die, where do our souls go to? Do they go straight to Heaven or Hell or they are floating around waiting for the coming of the Lord?

Wow .... and I thought the revelation I was receiving in my studies was something new. God is faithful. Not only has He confirmed Himself; but has reminded me ..... I will lead you into all truth..... and we receive the same confirmed truths from the Truthgiver himself, Holy Spirit, the Godhead of Truth, Presence, and Comfort

Bob,

He was God. You ain't.

Richard,

I agree that there were NOT two gospels, one for Jews and another for Gentiles, but ONE gospel encapsulated in 1 Cor 15:3-4.

Acts is not a particularly good place to ground fundamental doctrine, which is where some go to justify, baptismal regeneration and "The Apostles" gospel for instance.

Hello Skip, My next comment for the subject at hand. In the garden, Adam was at rest. Even though the possibility of eating of the forbidden fruit in the knowledge of good and evil existed and that the garden had present the crafty serpent that seemed to only have the power of suggestion and no other power, free choice reigned. Rest was there, peace and goodness was there and it was good.

Thanks again, Carleton

Why can Jesus walk on water and I cant?