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Thank you Rick. I have also heard from others that which you have written, that the spirit that appeared before the witch was demonic.

The question then: can an impersonating demonic spirit say what he did in 1 Samuel 28:15-20? I have to admit my ignorance on how the spirit of a person wherever it may be located, can be called up to appear, present himself & speak. If this was an (evil) demonic spirit, are then the words it expressed also be considered truth, for it is evident, that an evil spirit cannot bring forth God's Message? Unless of course, that wasn't truth that was given & the whole scenario was a falsehood & should be altogether removed. Samuel however, does give us a clue: he said, "why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up"? (v 15). It appears that Samuel's spirit was at rest at some place (in the OT economy), for he was brought up (up from where?). We need to consider the whole portion & come to our own understanding.

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We then have the account of Sarah & Hagar (Genesis chapter 16 & onwards), & then the apostle uses that account in Galatians chapter 4, to indicate that the story served to reveal to us both an historical event & an allegorical Truth, of Abraham, Sarah & Hagar. One could never presume that those three folk never existed, but a further Truth can be learned about the two covenants. In like manner, because nothing more is known about Lazarus & the rich man, can we confidently believe that that event in Hades did not actually take place with those very people? And yes, I can understand & appreciate the "twofold purpose" of the 'parable'; for indeed tis true, but the third purpose I see that leaps out to the reader, is of the awful torment that awaits those who have given little regard to God's Laws & practice of 'true religion".

"My point - the spirit of the vast majority of Christians do not enter heaven prior to the rapture." If "sleep" is a "holding place referred to by Paul", then at least we should specify where that holding place is. Which brings us to the first point in this discussion: is this holding place at the decomposed body's site, or in Hades, afloat in the ether regions, or elsewhere? Because of the lack of biblical clarity, I would lean towards Paul's own desire to leave this body of flesh & corruption of the world & to be present with his Lord. I don't see an extended gap between leaving the Earth & being in the Lord's presence, even if in spirit form. Every blessing to you brother.

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Our conversation is enlightening & profitable, for which I thank you, brother Bill. Yes, it was my error concerning the "3 recorded resurrections". I took your statement to apply to the graves that were opened at our Lord's crucifixion & death, given the Matthew 27 reference.

Then, to the Lazarus (parable). I understand the meaning of Lazarus, as most names in those days also had a specific meaning, e.g. "Thou art Peter" (Petros), a rock. As much as the Lord used Peter's name to signify the Rock of Truth on which the Church would be built, & Peter the rock, would play a significant part in that, Peter still remained Peter & was Peter to all. With Lazarus, & of course the mention of Abraham's existence, the call & plea to Abraham, & Abraham's response, should conclusively convince us that this was no mere parable, but a real-life (or, real-death) occurrence. And this pointed to those who trusted in riches & not in God, with no regard to the needy, & the one who was in need in life (in OT economy), all had to face an actual (initial) judgement. If this were only a parable, would the mention of Lazarus & Abraham only be allegorical & would Jesus then be deceiving His hearers when such people & such a situation didn't exist in the after-life? And this cannot be said of His other parables (e.g. sower, lost coin, prodigal son, etc.). Onto Page 2.

Denominations, yes there are many !!! I was truly amazed at the amount of them ,.. to me it only hurts an means dividing, or divisions,. For it actually says " We are the many membered body of Christ " ,.. so why so many ??? I dunno !!! But , Christianity is not a religion, it's a reality,.. for we are all , Christ's men / woman !!!!!

Peace

Keep coming back. We are all to put ON CHRIST. Consider others better than ourselves. Learn Tolerance and Patience. Edify and Build up those who have questions.

You are needed here. I tell myself sometimesgoats eat trash, but sheep and lambs do not.

Don't allow this to cause a ripple. If I learned nothing else, idle words get personal attention from the Lord.

You showed me today that there is much more to you, than others realize. Let's be more like Christ. It was hard for me to not trade punches with those who punch. That's how I know about idle words, punch outs, and being reactive.

I actually feel the Holy Spirit grab my collar and pull backlike he's reining in a horse. Yikes LoL

Or He got silent for a while. That hurts worse.

Don't be offended. It all works out.

Brother Chris is always a good teacher; patient and kindsorta like Jesus. :D. He's a missionary.

My favorite Apostles are Paul, John the Beloved; Barnabas too because he cheered others up. My favorite Prophets Ezekiel and Jeremiah. When I first studied Jeremiah, I would cry a lot. A favorite preacher: David Wilkerson. He has videos on YouTube. His son, Gary is a missionary (World Challenge dot com) and puts out regular news bulletins. You should sign up to get those. When I'm through reading them, I go leave it on my neighbors doors.

Don't you know Jesus loves all of us and wants us to be more like Him. I love you in Jesus and pray for the oil of joy to soothe your heart.

Mishael

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

The highlighted verse above is so important in this discussion. Jesus is saying that there is no other way to God (and therefore heaven) accept through Jesus. There is no wiggle room here. If we are open to tolerance in this verse then we are teaching against Jesus Himself. I need to say that again, Jesus is saying that there is no other way to God other than through Him (Jesus). Not by being good. Not by going to church. Jesus alone. That doesn't mean we need to be intolerant in areas of the Bible that are not specifically clear. Some draw divisions over end times discussions. Other draw divisions over the mode of baptism. Other divisions come over the way we need to evangelize.

My point is that I believe that far too often within Bible believing churches, we (the church) have become the chords of disunity where none need to exist. The Bible shows that we need to show the love and unity to a lost and hurting world. It is important to study the Scripture and seek diligently for what it says, however we all need to be humble when we approach the words of God and to err on the side of love and unity whenever possible without disregarding the clear teaching of God's word. Praise Him!

It's Friday evening where I am. I need wisdom about the Sabbath. It's one of the Ten Commandments and I want to keep it just as the other nine.

Please pray for me

I need wisdom from The Lord on how to fast.

Please pray for a family with kids experiencing domestic violence. Pray for safety, and salvation. And wisdom. That God would speak clearly to all involved. That God would HALT any physical & emotional violence immediately in Jesus name!

Pray that D won't go out tonight. Pray for his deliverance and protection. Salvation.

Thank you!

Hi Stacy Italicized words were added by the translators some affect meaning and text some do not.

Dear Debbie your desire to get The Holy Spirit is encouraging but The Holy Spirit is something you receive rather than get. Through genuine repentance you clean out whatever sin is occupying your vessel and make way for The Holy Spirit to abode within you. Earnestly seek The Lord through prayer and when room is made he will by His promise give you that which you seek.....

My prayers will be with you, remember God is faithful to all that seek him with a pure heart :)

Hi Wendy, Your story is amazing. Your mother taught you the most important thing in this lifetime, and that is accepting our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. And you are teaching it to your kids. Keep up the good work. God is watching over you.

Hi Doug,

You renew your mind by reading and staying focused on the word of God. It will change your way of thinking to better align it with God's thinking.

Victor, I give you encouragement. Many people feel empty as if they are far from God but that is when God is with you the most. He promised to be with the poor in spirt, downtrodden, outcasts, and solitude. Just lift your head to the hills. He is always there to wash away all your sins and give you a faith that surpasses understanding. He said, "I will be with you until the end of the age."

Yahweh, I come before you on the behalf of my fellow brethren in Christ Lojay. He is suffering from demonic attacks from the enemy while at work. I ask you in the name of Jesus to bind up those demons and cast them out of Lojay's presence. May you grant Lojay peace, strength, and fortitude. You promised to give your believers a peace that the world cannot give. So we believe in your word and count it as being done.

Oh my word ! Brother Earl ! 2 Y's U R , 2 Y's U B , I C U R 2 Y's 4 ME ! I'm amazed ! How did you know I'm a woman ? I'm so sorry for my deception . I apologise to you and every one on this site . I'm too ashamed to say any thing else . I'm too ashamed to stay . Good bye and God bless you all . Sacha .

Hi Doug Work the word daily and keep it first in everything you do. In practice work the Church Epistles they are written to us in this the age of grace the body of Christ,also the gospels then old testament. Its all Gods Word giving you my perspective. The church epistles give the doctrine reproof and correction on walking by the spirit in the body of Christ, Romans is the magna carta of Christianity, Ephesians is the spiritual pinnacle and Thessalonians is the gathering together or also whats known as the rapture of the body when Christ returns and we're taken up. God Bless

Hi Hope A lot of individuals do not believe in S.I.T. I have been for 45 years there is biblically 12 things it does for the believer, the reason most don't believe in it are the totally out of order examples they've seen but that doesn't take away from the reality that it is still available to do.

Brother david, i fully agree.

philippians 2:13 for it is god that worketh in you both to will and to do his good pleasure.

you (sinful flesh died, on the cross, you no longer exist. the life (i am the way, truth, life) now in you is christ.

no greater love has a man than to give his life for his brother. have you died to christ (the word of god, this is the first death) (first resurrection).

revelation 20:6

revelation 13:10

I'm an evangelist. I say what the Holy Spirit shows me. I may not know dates, years, days; I just say what I see.

I do study what the Holy Spirit wants me to see. He highlights scripture. Things I have read hundreds of times. Then He will show a different meaning just by placement of commas. I have a new comment on Genesis 1 and 2, I had never noticed before. I'm praying over this right now.

Don't allow opposing comments stop you. GOD will confirm His Word. I always go look at the Commentaries on Google. (Well known Christian commentators). I take it all in and do a lot of prayer and fasting over it, as in wait on the Holy Spirit. Whatever Rhema He wants to show is what I say.

Mostly because I want to hear what the Lord is saying.

I like to sit in here and see what others are thinking, asking and saying. Iron sharpens iron. It smooths off the rough edges (flesh). Jewish teachers and students do the same thing. It's all good. Don't get riled when someone disagrees. The Holy Spirit will bring Jesus's Light into the conversation.

We're living in a time of false teachers, and falling away, so let us all pray for the Holy Spirit to impart 'discerning of spirits' to us. May we receive it. 1 Corinthians 12

The only suggestion I can make is if we could press the "View Thread" box to see if everyone has at least received a reply?

Gotta go feast. My flesh just served notice it's calling the police.

Sister Cassidy, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

I don't know if you know THE ANGEL (messenger) OF THE LORD (Father) in the old testament WAS and IS CHRIST.

Romans 8:29 ... the image of Christ (angel of the Lord)....firstborn among MANY BRETHREN .....

It takes the Spirit CAUSING you to put verses TOGETHER to come to TRUTH.

Isaiah 28:9-11

How do you renew your mind?

hi Earl Brother you just proved my point, if we are led by the Holy Spirit of God then on any given subject matter in Gods Word its not going to mean 12 different things in understanding. According to philippians we are to be of the same mind. The mind of Christ or spiritual mind isn't going to have 20 different meanings to one area that's confusion.

Thank you Mishael . Your guidance is appreciated .

Please keep coming back here regularly . We all need a bit of extra support some times and there are plenty of kind folk on here who will lend you an ear when ever you need it . Don't give up on your relationship with God . He will never give up on you .

Brother David:

2 Peter 1:20

This scripture means that no one scripture has ALL TRUTH in that scripture; but must be held in light of all other scriptures to come TO TRUTH.

All scriptures have to AGREE, otherwise you are misapplying the TRUTH of the scriptures.

Only the Spirit can led you to TRUTH.

Ask and it shall be GIVEN, in Spirit's appointed time.

Hello again my brother in Christ

Appreciate your kind comments on my last post.

To begin, my comment concerning the number of resurrections from death by Christ must have not been clear to you. I know of only 3 recorded resurrections performed by Christ: Lazarus, John 11:1-44; the widow's son, Luke 7:11-17; and Jairus's daughter, Luke 8:40-56 I then expressed my opinion there were most likely more that were not recorded. I see Christ as a compassionate savior, and personally, believe more miracles were performed than are recorded in today's Bible.

My conviction the story of Lazarus the beggar is a parable is based on the Hebrew meaning of the name Lazarus meaning "God has helped". Christ was speaking to an audience of disciples originally and some Pharisees later joined the group, verse 14, and began to deride Christ. Christ then speaks to the Pharisees as to their violations of the Law and the parable of Lazarus.

The parable of Lazarus serves a twofold purpose. First it serves to emphasize the responsibility of those more fortunate to aid the less fortunate. Second, it foretales the rejection of Christ by the Jews, even after the resurrection. The first purpose most likely fell on deaf ears as the Pharisees because of their self-righteousness. The second was not realized and accepted by even the remaining 11 disciples initially.

Reference to the place of the spirit after death until the gathering of the church by Christ is referenced after the resurrection by Paul, in many places in scripture. Paul refers to the "holding place: as sleep.

Now, where did the souls John sees in Revelation come from and at what point did they arrive in heaven. Revelation 3:10 is easily interperted as the rapture before tribulation. Revelation 7:9-17 surely is post-rapture by content.

My point - the spirit of the vast majority of Christians do not enter heaven prior to the rapture. Enoch, perhaps. Elijiah definitely ( 2 Kings 2:11).

Thank you, my brother in Christ

Sister Hollie,

A word of encouragement Some of the people we will spend eternity with are found in these churches! So go and love them! Encourage them! Pray for them! They are God's people.

A lot of people that attend church aren't even saved (yet?). There's work to be done there. It's a mission field. They're starving for The Word of God. I know I was.

Your love for The Bible is MUCH needed in the church today. The devil has crept in like a wolf in sheep's clothing and will do his best to twist, distort, deceive, destroy doctrine, and remove The Word of God from the pulpit and the congregation if possible!

The King James Bible says not to forsake the assembling of ourselves TOGETHER in the HOUSE of the Lord as the manner of some is, and even more so as that day draws near.

Is it possible the church is a worse place because YOU are NOT there using the gifts God gave you?

God bless you :-))

What did The One with whom you spoke in your dream say to do?

Keep the dream silent?

Or share it?

Have you shared it publicly since you posted this?

Do you intend to?

If yes, when? Where?

There is a video on YouTube this morning of Jerusalem with a circle cloud over it and a trumpet blowing.

Brother dan, may christ in us grace us with his wisdom and his understanding.

the father does't see mankind, as we see mankind. the father only see mankind as complete in his son.

the son is bring this truth to mankind.

We are never to worship angels. They are the servants of the Lord

Lucifer (now named Satan). He coveted Gods throne and the worship from the angels of heaven. Michael, the archangel threw Satan to earth as God ordered. There are scriptures to prove this. Just learn to use the search engine on this website. Search the names.

Gabriel is Gods messenger archangel. He had conversations with Virgin Mary, Daniel, and the one you found. He stands before Gods throne ready to convey Gods messages.

Ephesians 6, speaks of principalities and powers, that are Satan's servants. It's their work to persecute Gods children by preventing them to receive the salvation of Jesus.

In the book of Revelation, there will be a final battle for earth and to finally have Satan and his servants locked up.

This is why we preach and teach on this website. To answer questions and to get people ready to go with Jesus. Matthew 24 and Luke 21, tells us that time is very short now.

By giving his life for us 'humans' on the Cross, Jesus secured our freedom from sin and Death. He wants us to live with Him forever. Everyone has to make a choice. Book of Romans. John the beloved wrote the book of Revelation, while incarcerated on the island of Patmos. He saw what was to happen, in visions from God. Daniel saw them also. The end was spoken of in

2 Peter 3. Not water as with Noah; but with fire.

That's why there is an urgency to preach and get those who desire to follow God, ready to go.

The Book of John 3, will help you be born again.

We will be changed one day into eternal bodies like Jesus. God is going to renew the earth to His original intent. Beautiful without pollution, scars man made on it; animals restored that were made extinct by humans. We will wait in heaven when that occurs.

I hope this helps you to choose to follow Jesus.

Pray in your own words. Your name will be in the Book of Life ( Revelation 22).

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Mishael