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Richard again,

AS to your thought about the persons of the Trinity being interdependent on each other, this is true. What I was stating that God is not dependent on anyone or anything outside of His Being. Yet within the Being of God there is relational interdependence the persons in an eternal way. The Father would not be Father without the Son, and the Word would not be the Son without the Father. The Spirit would not be spirated (breathed out) from the Father and the Son if the Father and the Son did not exist or did not choose to spirate him. There would not be love and agreement exchanged in the Being of God if there were only one person. But there is only one God-He is One in Being but three in persons who are eternally united as One-echad in Hebrew.

Another way to view His Being is that the three persons are interrelated to one another (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) interpenetrated in one another (I am in the Father ad He is in me. The Spirit will dwell in believers and the Father and the Son will dwell also) and integrated with one another inaction in the one Being of God.

Richard,

Your comments do not cause any difficulty. I purposely did not include information on Jesus humanity because I was speaking only to His divinity in the Godhead in my posts on Him being God. I agree that He is forever God and man in one person and that He will forever have a human body with His scars but glorified as our bodies will be in the eternal state.

Also, when the Bible speaks of God seeing, hearing, and smelling and any other sensing as a body made of matter will do, the Bible is speaking anthropomorphically so that we can understand Him more easily. Can God take on an appearance of having a body? Yes, He did so in the Old Testament times with Abraham and Jacob, Isaiah and Ezekiel and Daniel. But these forms are not what God is eternally like. He is Spirit, but able to make Himself visible to mankind as having a body.

For God in His essence to have a body eternally would interfere with his limitless, infinite, boundless Being. He is not limited by time, space, or matter. But as a Spirit, does He have a permanent form? His commandment to not make any physical representation of Him is one clue that He does not. Does He have an image as it says we were made in His image? I really cannot say that He does or does not eternally in His essence, but since He eternally chose for the Son to become man, this knowledge would avail Him to make ma in the image of the Son made man.

Thanks for bringing this up. In trying to stick with the topic and not go sideways into other biblical aspects, it will inevitably leave some truths unstated or unexplained. I believe that we will see God in Jesus. Whether we will see the Father alongside Jesus, it seems that Jesus said that He was in the Father and the Father was in Him and that if one sees Jesus they are seeing the Father.

This is unfortunately a drawback to singling out aspects of God's Being because He is a unified whole. Some have said that He is His attributes. They are not something He acquires or changes

J,

There is nothing impossible with God. Just now I prayed for your complete healing. I am also on insulin and have an eye damaged, and with legs barely holding up. Despite of it all God helped me so far and for complete recovery I have placed my need into His hands. His grace has been sufficient to me. May God fully restore your health and of your son and bless your family. Amen..

I come to you in prayer for my friend Gary who is fighting for custody of his twins I ask you to grant Gary custody of children I ask this according to John 14:14 in Jesus Christ Name I pray Amen

I desire your prayers for my Crohn's disease, which I have named "my illness". Thank you, and God bless you abundantly.

"But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus." Philippians 4:19 KJV

I stand in agreement, as a believer, with this petition before God.

"And the LORD, he it is that doth go before thee; he will be with thee, he will not fail thee, neither forsake thee: fear not, neither be dismayed." Deuteronomy 31:8 KJV

"There shall not any man be able to stand before thee all the days of thy life: as I was with Moses, so I will be with thee: I will not fail thee, nor forsake thee." Joshua 1:5 KJV

"Be strong and of a good courage, fear not, nor be afraid of them: for the LORD thy God, he it is that doth go with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee." Deuteronomy 31:6 KJV

I stand in agreement with the believers petition before God.

"(To the chief Musician on Neginoth, A Psalm or Song.) God be merciful unto us, and bless us; and cause his face to shine upon us; Selah." Psalms 67:1 KJV

"Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:" Philippians 2:5 KJV

"Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots." Luke 23:34 KJV

"He delivered me from my strong enemy, and from them which hated me: for they were too strong for me." Psalms 18:17 KJV

"In the fear of the LORD is strong confidence: and his children shall have a place of refuge." Proverbs 14:26 KJV

Standing in agreement with you for peace during this time. Amen.

I pray God provides the good and right resources you may need to aid you in overcoming these different matters and that God gives you peace during this time.

"Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you." 2 Corinthians 13:11 KJV

"And the LORD shall help them, and deliver them: he shall deliver them from the wicked, and save them, because they trust in him." Psalms 37:40 KJV

Believe God, "He is faithful and just to deliver" only believe. I stand in agreement with you and regarding your and others needing deliverance because God is "no respect of persons." "only believe" and walk in the deliverance that Jesus has provided. Amen.

"Therefore I will look unto the LORD; I will wait for the God of my salvation: my God will hear me." Micah 7:7 KJV

Hi,

You are asking a very good question.

We say death, however it is a transition into eternity. Eternity means No end. Death on earth means we no longer exist on earth or in the land of the living. Our life on earth or earthly existence is temporary, like a temporary job. Our flesh or human bodies are temporary houses or homes for our spirit. Our spirit ("spirit person" or "spirit being") is eternal and will transition to "heaven" where God is if we are holy "as He is holy" or to "hell" away or separated from God if one transitions and is not holy or righteous in the sight of God (or not meeting God's requirements). Our life on earth is considered a fleshy or earthly existence. Life here on earth is very precious because it is limited, we have a limited time to connect with God and be delivered from Adam's sin, so that God will accept us. You can look at the scriptures that speak on after Jesus rose from the dead, where Jesus was in a glorified body, (a spirit form of his natural body) that is why the disciples recognized Jesus. When a person transitions (or dies) they will be in spirit form however the question is where will they spend eternity when they die?

Always know that Jesus loves all of us no matter and that it's Gods will "that no man perish" everyone is free to choose for themselves where they will spend eternity, by taking action.

Here are some scriptures that came to mind you might want to search on this website, and use the button Similar Verses to review other scriptures that may aid in your question.

"Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling." Philippians 2:12 KJV

"Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls." Matthew 11:29 KJV

(there are scriptures in the bible that speak more about about death, dying, being raised from the dead and eternity)

"Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience." James 1:3 KJV

God being all knowing. How long will the test or trying of faith last? When will the trying of your faith end? When will tests and trials end. It will last as long as God allows it to last. Why so long? Because God knows how much a believer an bear (even though the believer, themselves may not realize how much they can actually bear). The trying of our faith comes from God. He (God) created the test therefore He knows how long it should last. God created and administers all tests according to each ones ability. The testing of our faith comes from God. If the test lasts longer than we think it should then the believer needs to exam and question themselves as to why God saw fit to give a test that does not seem to end. A believer should be glad if God allows some relief or happy times during the trying of their faith and if the trying of faith lasts a long time or seems like it will never end then know that God is working things out for the good of the believer (you want to go to heaven right?). If a believer wants to see God's face in peace, a believer (with God's help) must endure to the end, wavering or wanting nothing (in other words you want to live a right according to the word of God), "be steadfast" "be unmovable" "continue in the faith" "be Christ minded" "focus on the things of God" God knows where a believer (or sinner is) at all times "he never sleeps nor slumbers" "the only wise God." It's not so much that the test is so trying it's that sinful flesh is so corrupt...and it will take the trying or testing of a believers faith to ensure a believer qualifies to exist in the presence of God, here on earth and then in eternity. "be still and know that He is God"

Ps.40:9 "The great congregation"

Before we move onto the topic let us consider the significance of Selah in Ps.87. The Spirit uses to mark change in an idea. vv.1-3 refers to Zion. Selah. vv.4-6. Selah. "And the highest himself shall establish her"(v.5). This is annotated elsewhere as being planted by God. "But he (Jesus) answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up."Matt.15:13) So predestination gives us a position in the divine Will we are trees planted by God in the divine Will. So in the everlasting covenant we are referred having the seed in ourselves. The third day refers to the Son. God command and "And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good."(Ge.1:10-11). Those abiding in Christ(the true vine) produces fruits in the Spirit 'Without me you can do nothing Jesus. What St Paul speaks of natural and wild olive trees must be considered from the covenant of the seed in itself.

So what does the tree planted by the river denote? "And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither." We are compared to trees of righteousness,"and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations."(Re.22:2) Isaiah compares Jesus as a tender plant out of 'dry ground' signifying his heavenly antecedent(Is.53:3) The Spirit uses the same tag in the valley of dry bones. It is about the church and not of Israel per se. The leaves that do not wither refer to the same great congregation. In the new earth they are kings and priest so healing of nation must explains for the nations in the outer darkness.

We shall see the same great congregation following the rider on the white horse. " And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean." (Re,19:14)

I would be grateful for prayer to heal diabetes. Blood glucose has run high in spite of medicine, insulin, and being careful what I eat. My eyes, especially the left retina has been affected and

the nerves in my legs. Many times I think of the Scripture " when two or more of you are gathered in My name, there am I in the midst of you."

Also please pray for my son, Manny, a 15 year Army veteran. His PTSD is severe and he often is not himself.

Thank you for remembering us in prayer

Ps.40:9 "The great congregation" (1 of 2)

"I have preached righteousness in the great congregation"

In the vision of John we are given them responding to the memorial in heaven. This body signifies Trinity which this psalm alludes to. 'A body hast thou me prepared' refers to the Son so those who are blessed are his brethren. "Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee," refers to the Son of man."The Lord shall count, when he writeth up the people, that this man was born there."(Ps.87:5-6) So let us be specific the memorial in heaven is about the last Adam. True worshipers are born there in Zion. By the same token where the false worshipers are born? "I will make mention of Rahab and Babylon to them that know me: behold Philistia, and Tyre, with Ethiopia; this man was born there," Cursed are they who made flesh his arm.

There is a number given to those who are thus counted. "And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands."(Re.5:11). Compare this with the number given in the vision of Daniel. " A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him." These angels are clouds of witnesses and they represent all those who are born in Zion. It is thus we need to consider the world of the Spirit and of the earth in real time. Now is the day of salvation refers both. One third of the stars in heaven could be cast down because man on the earth proved to be a false worshipper. " And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth."

What does the tail signify? The prophet who teaches lie is the tail. (Is.9:15). So our salvation explains the spiritual bodies.

I am posting this in the wee hours since I woke up around 3.0 AM with this revelation

Sorry to crash your study series but wanted to clarify a few things.

There were; as you know several times that Christ was said to appear in His Preincarnate form in the Old Testament. Whether it was God Himself or Christ can be a tricky affair. We also see indications that God indeed has eyes; ears; and smell as humans do in various passages. We also have Christ; Post Resurrection who now in a glorified body still has the marks from His crucifixion since he saw no decay as the prophecies indicate ( Psalm 16:10 also stating that He wouldn't remain in Sheol). I suppose in summation we could say that since He created man in His image there are some things that would appear similar; albeit His unique position as Deity.

I suppose one could surmise how we will appear in our glorified bodies. I have stated how interesting it is that only He will have any marks on His body as opposed to anyone else in heaven.

As to Him not being dependent on anything or anyone; I suppose I could look at the Trinity as a concept and say that there is a sort of interdependence there. Christ could do nothing at least on His earthly ministry; God was to exalt Him in time and basically delegate ruling over the earth even though of course Christ was involved with the Creation in the first place. Of course God had to remain in heaven at that time; or the whole universe would cease to exist. The Holy Spirit; of course works as comforter and convicting men of sin as well as reminding us of all He taught us. Perhaps we could say that the Holy Ghost has no body or substance even like the Father and Son.

Anyway I don't want to cause any difficulty here in you communicating your message. (Just thought of another corroborating text in the sixth seal of Revelation where the world hides from He who sits on the Throne and the wrath of the Lamb (Christ).

I guess I am being difficult. I can avoid commenting if you prefer as I realize there ain't much I can say you don't know already.

The Holy Spirit is God, a divine Person, not a force or power from God.

He is eternal as God is: Heb. 9:14. He gives eternal life: John 6:63, 2 Cor. 3:6 ( Rom. 6:23 says that God gives eternal life and Jn. 10:28 Jesus says He gives eternal life) Only God can give eternal life.

He was with the Father and the Son "in the beginning" and created all things with them ( Gen. 1:3; Ps. 104:30)

He knows all things: 1 Cor. 2:20. Therefore, he is omniscient and has an intellect (mind). He is able to control a believer's mind ( Rom. 8:6).

He sent the Son into the world with the Father (Is. 48:16)

He regenerates sinners to come to faith and be saved ( Jn. 3:3,8). He baptizes believers ( 1Cor. 12:13, Acts 11:16).

He can be blasphemed ( Mt. 12:31, Mk. 3:29) Only God can be blasphemed.

He vindicated Jesus in raising Him from the dead ( 1Tim 3:16). The Scriptures teach that God raised Jesus from the dead ( Acts 2:24; 10:40; that Jesus raised Himself from the dead ( Jn. 2:19), and that the Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead (2Cr. 4:14).

He is a person just as the Father and the Son are Persons. Not as we think of person in that each human is an individual being, but that He is a divine person unified in the One God.

As a person, He has emotions. He can be resisted ( Acts 7:51), can be pleased ( Gal. 6:8), quenched, grieved ( Eph. 4:30; Is 63:10), insulted ( Heb. 10:29).

As a person, He acts. He speaks ( Rev. 2:7; Acts. 13:2). He inspired Scriptures to be written ( 2Pet. 1:21). He teaches ( Jn. 14:26). He guides ( Jn. 16:13). He convicts of sin ( Jn. 16:8). He contends with man (Gen, 6:3).

In Acts 5 he is called God in the account of Ananias and Sephora, saying they lied to the Holy Spirit in vs. 3 and then reframes the statement by declaring that they have lied to God in vs. 4. Here the Holy Spirit is called God by God's inspiration to Luke.

The Holy Spirit is not a force, nor an emanation from God, not something God created-but a divine Person who united in the Being of God.

To continue with studying Who God Is:

God is "Spirit" and God is the "holy spirit".

Jesus told the women in Samaria clearly that God's essential nature is that of pure Spirit. He has no earthly or physical matter as we have and all of creation has. We know that angels and the heavenly hosts are of celestial substance, not earthly. Yet, I do not think that the pure Spirit of God is the same as the substance of their nature. No created being can have the same essential nature as God has. Since God is pure Spirit and exists without any hindrance from any form of matter or substance He created, He can be everywhere present at once. Yet Scripture does say that the Father dwells in unapproachable light, so He must have uniqueness in His living existence that is beyond what has been created.

Since God is only Spirit, he is not composed of parts or different things that are combined to make His Being. If this was so, then He would be dependent on these components for His existence. He said He is altogether NOT like us. ( Ps. 50:21). We should not think He is anything like anything He has made. He is altogether different in essence, nature, and existence as pure Spirit.

Ps.2:2 "Why do the heathen rage?"

"The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying,"

The heathen are the false worshippers who want only literal context and also hermeneutics fit with their flesh: politically correct is one way they muzzle truth. So when one polician speaks of 'migrant caravan' the mouthpiece of imposter church repeats the lie from his radio show. It is a conspiracy nevertheless. The Psalm faults their conspiracy being against the Lord and his anointed.

There is nothing hidden so when one speaks truth it shall so happen that it is as one shouted it from roof top. "Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops."( Luke 12:2-3). The false worshippers, the heathen forget that those who are counted as being born in Zion have their own life in the world of the Spirit. The Psalm calls them as the great congregation. A clue of which we have in Re.5. The 24 elder well knew who was worthy to break open the book with seven seals. The Memorial in Heaven is the body of heaven. The elders and the four beast know the mind of God and when they worship God we hear the great congregation responding. "And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;"(Re.5:11-14) We have another incident where whatever war plan the King of Syria discussed the prophet would get the wind of it.

This congregation shall establish truth in that day when soul of man is before the white throne. So do I worry if what I post here in this forum, as 'tares'? If truth is lie to them it is God who shall defend me. I am heard and what the Spirit has had shall reward me accordingly. " Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling."(Ps.2:11)

What happens to u when u die?

i love god

Everlastig covenant: everlasting burnings

Is.34:8

"For it is the day of the Lord's vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion." What was the controversy of Zion? It is what made the sinners in Zion afraid. God counted everyone born in Zion. True worshippers were glad and those who made flesh his arm made a lie of the promises of God and of his holiness. It is thus we see who are the blessed and who are the sons of perdition. The latter would not enter into the day seven. So the beast with the number 666 denotes the body is from Adam who disobeyed God and was expelled from His presence. His spirit and soul are equally tained so 666 fits these sons of perdition.

In an earlier post we discussed the lie the imposter church used to further their earthly glories. Satan tempted the sinners of Zion the earthly glories. They took it with both hands. Jesus rejected the tempter. "Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve."( Matt.4:10) So the sons of Adam are a different for whom their inheritance is cast in the outer darkness. (De.32:8). What was 'the curse of Ham?

The first written use of the Curse of Ham to justify slavery appeared in the 15th century, when a Portuguese historian, and In the American colonies the Curse of Ham served as the ideological justification for African slavery. The Puritan colonisers of the New World bought slaves in large numbers to turn Providence, Rhode Island, into a Christian "city on a hill". All were deemed the progeny of Canaan. Of the many ways that Christians have invoked the Bible to justify their actions, none has exceeded in cruelty and wilful ignorance their appropriation of the "Curse of Ham" to justify slavery. Government officials and slave traders were instantly sold to the idea: Moralizing effect of salvation to the soul of a slave as though depended on systematic violence. Do you not see Ro.5:12 in action?

Everlasting covenant- the lights to rule (2 of 2)

There cannot be everlasting burnings without the everlasting covenant. Where does the true worshippers dwell?"He shall dwell on high: his place of defence shall be the munitions of rocks: bread shall be given him; his waters shall be sure."(Is.34:14-16). So the nations that dare not come to the true light because their deeds are evil are interchangeable. Cursed are they so the light to rule in the everlasting covenant shall be till their second death.

"And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified." (Re.11:8) Jerusalem is cursed as much as Egypt is. Coming back to the emerging nations in Ge.10 they are moving farther away "as they journeyed from the east" (11.2) are all under the curse. So what does Noah cursing Canaan would indicate? Canaan as with every other have made flesh his arm. "And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth./He was a mighty hunter before the Lord" Jeremiah's verse tells the true facts while "sinners in Zion" underpin the evil of slavery on the basis of color. They dare not come to the light because they have a culture war to fight.

1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

This darkness shall have the days and nights and the light is provided from the new earth. God is merciful and for the sinners lake of fire is the last stop.

For the saints redeemed from the earth God gives them light. "And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever."(Re.22:5)

Everlasting covenant-the lights to rule (1 of 2)

"And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good./ And the evening and the morning were the fourth day."(Ge.1:18-19)

God set the two lights as a sign and they were to keep the from the darkness. So Jesus as the true light is he who separates the true worshippers from the darkness which refers to the outer darkness. "For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved./ He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God./And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil./For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved./But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God." It is the light separates true worshippers (who approach it so that their deeds may be made manifest,)from false worshippers. So what they do is truth. "I am the truth". They are wrought in God is what 'the seed in itself' would mean.

They know that they were called in the Son to be holy and without blame. "Be ye holy for I am holy" therefore has been planted as a seed in their hearts. So for the false worshippers whose heart has gone astray. "Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD."

(Je.17:5-7)

Zion that is set on earth is where these false worshippers are afraid. " The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?" They know they shall be judged by everlasting fire. Why?

please pray for me and my family

Everlasting covenant- the waters (2 of 2)

"There is a river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of God, the holy place of the tabernacles of the most High."(Ps.46:4). Haggai predicted "Yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land."(Hag.2:6) But true worshippers shall have no need for alarm."Though the waters thereof roar and be troubled, though the mountains shake with the swelling thereof" we have God our refuge and our strength.

What the liars of Ephraim have made shall not stand. The true worshippers who are blessed by the covenant half their refuge and it is named. Zion is founded and the covenant is drawn up between God and Man. "Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste."(Is.28:16). God made a count of those who were born in Zion. "And of Zion it shall be said, This and that man was born in her: And the highest himself shall establish her. The LORD shall count, when he writeth up the people, That this man was born there."(Ps.87:5-6) When I am born there before the foundation of the world why would I want to sit with false worshippers, " Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness?". God also made two lights to indicate the Throne of God and of the Lamb.(Re.22:1). These lights are for the earth for those in the outer darkness. "And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also./And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth." (1:15-16) These two lights are the signs. God showed Abraham them, "Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable./These all died in faith." (He.11)

"Everlasting covenant-The waters (1 of 2)

The Genesis account of sovereignty of God is Spirit based. "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."(Ge.1:2). This Psalm annotates it thus: "The earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein./ For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods. (Ps.24:1-2). So how do they should worship God? " But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him./ God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." Everlasting covenant therefore separates true worshippers from the sort Isaiah talked about. "Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men."(Is.29:13) Of precepts of men the prophet introduced in the previous chapter,(28:13) The imposter church as with the nation of Israel has been ensnared by the doctrine of men. A sample of it is in the hermeneutics where literal meaning is given pride of pace. They would even lie in order to make slavery the morally reprehensible original sin of the USA acceptable. Whether the church want it not God is going to flush out all the filth. As Isaiah says, "Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves."(v.14)

Everlasting covenant follows after the Spirit worked with the face of the waters. God's throne is set over mankind and the covenant is binding on them. The true worshippers are like many streams flowing into the river of God.(Ps.46:4)

Hi Spenser,

As I mentioned before you are free to believe or not what I set down in this discussion forum. We hold different views so leave it that.

With joy and peace in Him,