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Re. 5:6-7 "Seven Spirits of God"

"stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth./ And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.

We have been focussing on the book with seven seals while the seven horns and seven spirits were right there enforcing the will of the Father. The Lamb had prevailed over the nations to judge the ungodly world.

"And they sung a new song, saying," Theme of the new song is on salvation. Moses had sung it after God had thrown the chariots of Pharaoh's army to the sea. "The Lord is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation: he is my God, and I will prepare him an habitation; my father's God, and I will exalt him." (Ex.15:2) What is mentioned in Ch.5 we have repeated, "And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders" (Re.14:3). And we hear it sung again after the seventh angel had sounded, " And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever."(Re.11:15) Thus three versions of the single event are presented.

Seven angels with trumpets sounding are vengeance being meted out to the ungodly world.

Breaking of first four seals explain how wars hunger famine and plagues became the 'new' normal in the world. With the fifth seal we are shown the body of martyrs whose cry reaches the throne. (6:10-11) White robes are given to them "that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.". So the seven spirits of God or rather Spirit of Christ in particular has completed their tasks. It leads to the day of wrath. " For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"(6:17)

Oseas:

There are different places in the prophecies that say Christ will pour out the same plagues that were poured out on the Egyptians.

But, they want be LITERAL as they were in Egypt.

Hail mingled with fire was one of the plagues in Egypt, as was frogs.

Ezekiel 13:11 ....oh great hailstones shall fall, and a stormy wind shall rend it....

Ezekiel 38:22 And I will plead with him with pestilence and blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon many people that are with him, and overflowing rain, and great hailstone, fire and brimstone.

Isaiah 30:30 And the Lord SHALL CAUSE his glorious voice (his word) to be heard, and shall show the lighting down his arm, with the indignation of his anger, and with the FLAME of a devouring FIRE, with scattering, and tempest and hailstones.

So all these are SYMBOLIC of something that is going to judge God's people, as did the plagues judge the Egyptians.

John 5:22 ... God hath committed all judgement to the Son ...

So these symbols of judgement are symbols of Christ, and Christ is the Word, and the WORD(S) of God JUDGES US.

John 12:48 ... the words that I have spoken, the same words will judge you .....

Isaiah 28:2 Behold the Lord has a mighty and strong one (the WORD), which as a tempest of HAIL and a destroying storm, as a flood of mighty waters, shall cast down to earth with the hand

Isaiah 28:3 The crown of PRIDE .....

Isaiah 28:5 In that day (of judgement when one believes God's word) the Lord (the WORD) shall be for a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty,unto the residue his people.

Isaiah 28:8 But they (the residue of his people) have also ERRED THROUGH WINE (explained in other scriptures, but is not alcoholic wine), and through strong drink (not alcohol) are OUT OF THE WAY (Christ is the way) .... they err in VISION and stumble in JUDGEMENT.

I will continue in a second comment on the frogs.

God BLESS YOU!

Heb 6:1

Therefore, leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

Heb 6:2

Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

Key about GOD' WORD is, it is marked through with His plan of SALVATION from beginning to end. (Foundation of the world). Key word salvation No secret.

Heb 6:3

And this will we do, if God permit.

Heb 6:4

For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

Heb 6:5

And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

Heb 6:6

If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh and put him to an open shame.

So, it is impossible to fall away? The Lord Christ cannot be crucified again in the eyes of THE Most High?

Jas 2:19

Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Are the devils trembling because they BELIEVE OR UNBELIEVE?

Isa 28:9

Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk and drawn from the breasts.

Isa 28:10

For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little

2Ti 2:15

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

2 Timothy 15-18

15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

Matt 24:3-14 signs before Tribulations then 15-16 speaks of those who are Judea flee, near the end of Tribulation.

Amen.

Isn't the KJV sufficient enough? It's about the message that is contained not the paper it's written on. Keep your eye on the prize, my brother.

Giannis, Jesse and Jordyn

Thank you for your replies.

I would like to clarify that It's actually a Bible study and not a discussion, so who are the dogs acccording to the expresses Scriptures?

Until this moment I have been trying to bring the brothers to interpret the Scriptures as those who are inside them, and not as those who speak of them, but being not inside but on the outside looking at the Scriptures.

What is important for all of us is to identify through the Word of GOD who the dogs are mentioned in Revelation 22:15 and Philippians 3:2, which will be left out of the kingdom of GOD that will be established in this seventh and LAST millennium or seventh and last Day, the Day of the Lord.

Who are the dogs, then? Wouldn't the answer or identification of them be in the Old Testament? Wouldn't it be interesting to identify who the dogs are specifically, so that we are all protected from these dogs as Paulo wrote to the Church of Philippi? saying: Beware of dogs, ... Phil.3:2.

Again: It's actually a Bible study and not a discussion, so who are the dogs according to the expresses Scriptures? There are many here that know Scriptures deeply, so could anyone give us where is written who the dogs are in the Old Testament, and that we all know how to protect ourselves from them?

Perhaps someone here or many may have been "bitten" by a dog in the church they attend, and do not discern that a "dog" bit them. It is important that each of us is vaccinated, I mean, knowing who are dogs is as if be vaccinated and protected from them .

GOD bless and be careful

Correct once your born into this world your body should automatically become like God and once your receive Jesus Christ into your heart in repentance your body becomes God at that instant.

And if it's already Done it shouldn't suffer either. Pray after me Jesus you says that it is done and I ask that I will not suffer in flesh for his sake.

I will harvest too not to be used

Would love to hear thoughts on why God rested. Did He need to rest? Was He celebrating His creation?

Ps.110:1 "The Book Bound with Seven Seals" (3 of 3)

Jeremiah foretold this, "Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man, and with the seed of beast."(Je.31:27)

Now we shall look at the day of vengeance indicated by the opening of seven seals. "and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."(5:2) The same rider we see again,"And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True," (Re.19:11) Jesus Christ setting out to conquer is in control. His Father's promise 'Until I make thine enemies' thy footstool is what the vision signifies. The second rider on the red horse we see in Re.19:19-20 where the enemies of his Son are thrown into the lake of fire.

The bound book 'written within and on the backside' carries two set of families children of light and of wrath. The book of the Lamb is yet another. Written within and on the backside' has a parallel,"And Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years./And all the days of Noah were nine hundred and fifty years: and he died."(Ge.9:28-29) By the same token Satan is released after 1000 years and of the ungodly we have 'their lives prolonged. In the Book of Daniel it is differentiated as 'season and time'. All these come within the day decreed for the Son.

Tribulation is about quenching the Spirit and not physical death,- and life in Gaza would be more or less explain it, Matt.24:29 indicates we are seeing about us wickedness ever on the rise and life of the Spirit is trivialized with all the activism spewing from the pulpit.

please remember me and my family today in your prayers , remember my mother who has been ill

Ps.110:1 "The Book Bound with Seven Seals (2 of 3)



In this second quoted from the Hebrews, we see how the Lamb came to prevail upon to be found worthy. "Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:"(He.1:3) First the Son as the Word become flesh had to purge our sins. The Son had to fulfill the will of his Father and prove his claim, "Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God."(He.10:7). In the Psalm 110 he was placed at the right hand and the writer to the Hebrews is spot on to say,'he sat down on the right hand' as before. That makes one full circle.

This proof period of the Son to fulfill his earthly ministry we have from these instances, " but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father."(Matt.20:23) and "And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power."(Ac.1:7) Now having purged our sins he upholds 'all things by the word of his power,'.

We shall look at the vision of St John, "And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?/And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon." But one of the elders consoles the Apostle,"Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof." (Re.5:1-5). Here earthly antecedents of Jesus is given. The Spirit instructs us to the fulfillment of the Will of God has both heaven and the earth in unison. The Lamb and the Son of man are one and the same.

:) you always give me something good to think about , thank you .

The Book Bound with Seven Seals (1 of 3)

" The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."(Ps.110:1)

Here we have the divine Will concerning his Son. 'Until I make thine enemies thy footstool' is an indication of the divine Will. When Jesus declared,"My Father worketh hitherto, and I work"( John 5:17) we can understand both heaven and the earth are as one. How God in heaven set about quelling the riot of the enemies of Christ we have in two visions.

The one in Daniel is about an everlasting kingdom. "I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him./ And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him.(7:13-14). Enemies of Christ were dealt in the nations which figure in the vision mentioned before. They are specific as well as they continue 'for a season and time. (Dan.7:12)

Second vision is not about one 'like the Son of man' but of a Lamb, " As it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth."(Re.7:5)

What we are really focussed with these posts is to show the days weeks, months and years are all set to work at the behest of God the Father whose will is to make all the enemies of his Son, his footstool. Isaiah for instance said, "the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;" All these happen simultaneously so when the Lamb break open seven seals these are all set in motion and not one after the other. Similar to the seven pillars or days set forth in the abstract. (Ge.1:1)

In the Psalm God tells the Son, 'Sit thou at my right hand' which establishes the Father Son relationship goes before the worlds were framed by the word of God. (He.11:3).

Hi Oseas

You misunderstood my comment. I meant the scriptures refer to people having the characteristics of dogs, aggressive people, goats not sheep.

Oseas:

I know ordinary things in the word, such as dogs, can have hidden meanings that help us understand other verses of scripture.

I will attempt to uncover you mystery meaning of dogs.

Fowls of the air carry a hidden meaning that helps understand other scriptures.

Do you know the hidden meaning of the fowls of the air.

There are a great many things that have hidden meaning, so I have no doubt that dogs could be one of them.

God BLESS YOU!

Thank you, this makes sense to a lot of the scriptures;

John 3:15 "That whosoever BELIEVETH in him should not perish, but have eternal life."

John 6:47 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that BELIEVETH on me hath everlasting life."

John 11:25 "Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that BELIEVETH in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:"

Romans 1:16 "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that BELIEVETH; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek."

Thank you again for your time and patience to respond to a question that seems obvious to the experienced Christians. I am nothing but a mere child in the faith and so my understanding is somewhat limited and have a little catching up to do. Thanks and may God bless you and peace to you in Jesus name

Please pray for me and my family God knows what is happening silent prayers would be much appreciated.

Jajaz458:

I takes the whole word of God to understand any part of the word.

Romans 7

It takes other truths in God's to understand Romans 7.

If ones does not believe other truths in the word then he want understand Romans 7.

One truth that always has to be applied to any scriptures we study in the word IS:

Hebrews 4:3 .... the WORKS were finished from the foundation of the world ......

Revelation 13:8 ... the LIFE of the Lamb, slain from the foundation of the world .....

Matthew 25:34 ..... the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world .....

Matthew 13:35 .... things which have been keep secret from the foundation of the world ....

So, all this, the WORKS being done before the foundation, we come to this truth:

Hebrews 4:2 ... unto them was the GOSPEL PREACHED, as well as UNTO US ...

One of the truths of the gospel is your sins are forgiven, therefore their sins were forgiven from the foundation of the world.

The prophets declared this to them as well as us:

Psalms 103:12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our SINS from us.

They didn't BELIEVE, as most today don't BELIEVE these words of God, God has not seen our sins from the foundation of the world.

So, what is this SIN that kept THEM and KEEPS us from God: his word tells us:

Hebrews 3:19 So we see that they could not enter in because of UNBELIEF.

So, what's God's solution for UNBELIEF and the mystery keep secret from the foundation of the world.

The SPIRIT of TRUTH, pour out on man at pentecost.

John 16:8 When he is come, he will REPROVE the world of SIN ....

John 16:9 .....of SIN, because they BELIEVE NOT ......

You can believe in God, and yet, NOT BELIEVE his words.

1 Peter 1:23 You are BORN AGAIN, by the WORDS of God ....

I'm out of characters.

Meditate on these truths and we will continue on to Romans 7.

God BLESS YOU!

John

John

Jesse (and all)

You know that there are many things written in the Bible figuratively, or by allegory, that are very difficult to interpret, in my opinion a challenge that many people cannot interpret them really, or misinterpret, or even twist or distort them unfortunately.

My question was about "Who are the dogs according to the Rev.22:15 and Phil.3:2"?. Who the Scriptures are talking from?

I think it is very interesting to find the answer in the Bible itself. To decipher the enigma It means wisdom for us.

But what to say about Revelation 16:13? : 13 And I saw three unclean spirits like FROGS come out of the MOUTH of the dragon, and out of the MOUTH of the Beast, and out of the MOUTH of the false prophet.

THE QUESTION IS: WHY FROGS?

I'm not challenging anyone, it is the Bible that makes the challenge, I think it is very interesting to find the answer in the Bible itself, even JESUS said: (whoso readeth, let him understand: Matthew 24:15)- We all have to accept the challenge that JESUS made: Whoever reads understands. That's it.

Giannis

Revelation 22:15 that is a former secret book GOD the Father gave to JESUS , and Philippians 3:2 wrote by Paul te Apostle, they do no refer to "pets" o wild animals, of course. To say that is ridiculous and a mockery.

Scriptures are not referring to the "pets" or wild animals, of course, as you interpreted.

So, the question remains: Who are the dogs mentioned in Revelation 22:15 and Philippians 3:2?

Oseas,

"someone who looks to the Scriptures from outside of them to inside, and do not enter within them deeply, nor delve and immerse inside them, but like someone surfing on the surface of the water?"

Wow!

I made the mistake of thinking you were asking an honest question and looking for an answer to something you didn't have an answer to.

Had you originally posted this as a " challenge," I probably would have stayed out of this one!

The earth is full of violent men and wars of all kind,wars of demons,in all the continents,they are something like fallen angels. But what does the Word of God say?What did my Lord JESUS say? Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth- Matthew 5:5.But how?

GOD the Father-the Word,the Word is GOD- said by the prophet Hoseas(8th-century BCE-Hosea or Oshea means salvation,he is called also Joshua in the holy Scriptures): GOD said by Hosea: But I will have mercy upon the house of Judah,and will save them by the Lord their GOD,and will not save them by bow,nor by sword,nor by battle,by horses,nor by horsemen- Hosea 1:7.

GOD is the Truth. Jeremiah 10:10: But the Lord is the true GOD,He is the living GOD,and an everlasting King:at His WRATH the earth shall tremble,and the nations shall not be able to abide His INDIGNATGION.-As it is written in Romans 2:5-16-Check it.

The Day of the Lord

The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the Kingdoms of our LORD and of His Christ and He shall reign for ever and ever. Revelation 11:v.15.The Word is GOD,the Word is self-executing according was preestablished and revealed.

So,there shall be a spiritual BATTLE against this devilish/satanic world ruled by the Devil which deceives the whole world- Revelation 12:9. And how do the nations will react?Well, we know that the nations will rage,yeah,will rage- Revelation 11:18-,the kings of the earth set themselves,and the rulers take counsel together,against the Lord,and against His anointed,saying,"Let us break their bands asunder,and cast away their cords from us",but the LORD will laugh:the Lord shall have them in derision- Psalm 2.

The LORD said: Joel 2:1-3

1Blow ye the trumpet in Zion,and sound an alarm in my holy mountain:let all the inhabitants of the land tremble:for the Day of the Lord cometh,for it is nigh at hand;(That is this 7th and last Day,the LORD's Day,or seventh and last millennium).

There shall be War against three unclean Spirits like frogs-Rev.16:13-15

Get ready

Brother in Christ

The FALSE MESSIAH will soon manifest himself in Israel, as JESUS prophetically announced, saying: John 5:43 - 43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if ANOTHER (a false messiah, an IMPOSTOR, a liar) shall come in his OWN name, him ye (the Jews, and even many Pastors, Bishop, among others believers, will be deceived) will receive.

And Paul Apostle said: 2 Thessalonians 2: 3-4 and 9 -

9 - Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Get ready

May our Lord GOD bless and keep us, and give us His protection

Amen

Hi jimbob:)

no worries - answer when you can as will i. your testimony was a blessing to me and it is such a wonderful testimony of your mother-in-law being a witness to you every day and that it touched your heart in to giving your life to christ. it is true we never know who might be there for the lord to use to show us the way. i was raised a catholic so i never hear about the saving grace of christ let alone even imagined it to be true when i was growing up. i did believe in the true god and trinity, etc. but that was all and i was taught god was a stern old man, up in heaven out of reach except through rituals and traditions. i was also not allowed to speak the name of jesus at all unless directed to in prayer led by a nun or priest. this was back in the fifties and sixties so i know it is a lot different today. when i moved out on my own at 18 i left the catholic church. a few years later i met my husband, tim. my mother-in-law was also a christian and tried to witness to us but we lived several hours away so we didn't see her very often. god knew that tim knew better because he had given his heart to the lord a couple of years earlier but tim wasn't following god when i met him. anyway, in our second year of marriage a man tim worked with began to witness to him and tim told me about it and so this man's wife started to witness to me and i was thrilled because, like i said, i had never even imagined that type of a personal relationship with god, with jesus. tim renewed his relationship with the lord and jesus saved me on the same night. i'm a widow now. tim passed away a couple of years ago, but god has always seen me through. praise him!

i do have a scripture comparison between the kjb and niv but i'll have to do it in my next reply because i'm running out of room in this one. bye god bless you

Hello Oseas.

Ancient people didn't have dogs like pets as we do nowadays, laying on our couches and eating stakes. They used them as guards mainly against thiefs, wild animals, etc.

So they wanted them to be wild, aggressive ... bark and bite. So apply that to those verses.

Helo Jesse

Kuon or Kyon means "dog" as in Phil and Rev. (The "u" vowel of classical grk was changed to "y" in koine grk, pronounced as "ee")

Kunarion or Kynarion means "little, young dog", as in Matthew and Mark.

Why did Jesus said young dogs instead of dogs? In contrast to children.

And since you are learning grk, some help about pronounciation. All non grk scholars pronounce grk words using the pronounciation of vowels and consonants according to classical grk (3rd -5th centuary BC). But until Jesus' time the pronounciation had changed dramatically. Koine grk is closer to mod. grk than to classical grk. So you have to learn how we pronounce grk words nowadays. So we really say Kyon(kee-on), not Kuon.

Strong's concordance uses the classical pronounciation.

Is anyone familiar with the book of the generations of Adam in the Bible?

Jesse and Jordyn

Thank you for your replies

Actually, it's a challenge to decipher the biblical enigma on: "Who are the dogs?

I see and know that you have knowledge of the Bible and both tried to answer the question, but like someone who looks to the Scriptures from outside of them to inside, and do not enter within them deeply, nor delve and immerse inside them, but like someone surfing on the surface of the water. In my view what matters is to enter and delve into the Scriptures to bring the true interpretation and solution to the biblical enigma : Who are the dogs in Revelation 22: 15 and Philippians 3:2?

The question remains open for all my brothers because the Word of GOD is not speaking of "pets", of course. What we are commenting by the Word of GOD is: "For without are DOGS... - Revelation 22:15, and Philippians 3:2 says: Beware of DOGS... ", but wait, Scriptures are not speaking of "pets", as was suggested in prior replies, so who are them? Who are the dogs?

To decipher the riddle and find the correctly answer to the question it seems a challenge, it is necessary to immerge into the Scriptures and delve into them to find and brings the solution to this enigma within the Bible, otherwise the answers may not match or fit with the Holy Scriptures, the source of Truth. This is a serious problem.

To decipher the riddle giving correctly answer to the question, it is necessary to enter into the Scriptures and delve, and immerse into them finding the solution to this enigma within the the Word of GOD. It's very interesting to decipher for us, I think.

GOD bless