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You could also cite the many Scriptures that speak of those who fell down & worshipped Jesus. And this was not people doing obeisance to a 'mighty Prophet of God', but in recognition that this Holy One came from God & to be worshipped as they would God.

A few Scriptures: Matthew 2:10,11 (the magi from the East before the Babe). Matthew 8:2 (by a Leper). Matthew 9:18. Matthew 14:33. John 9:36-38. Acts 10:25,26 (an account where Peter refused the worship of Cornelius).

I always pray to the Father, but I find no reason why I can't pray to the Lord Jesus & glorify & worship Him also.

I'm sure that this spoke to your heart. Thanks for sharing.

Well Richard identified 3 Scriptural allusions supporting "that he rose again the third day ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES," and Adam echoed 1 of those 3.

This one I got from Chuck Missler. I am no Hebrew scholar and it took one to find this one. You might not find it as compelling as the 3 from Richard.

"Then she let them down by a CORD through the window: for her house was upon the town wall, and she dwelt upon the wall. And she said unto them, Get you to the mountain, lest the pursuers meet you; and HIDE YOURSELVES THERE THREE DAYS, until the pursuers be returned: and afterward may ye go your way. And the men said unto her, We will be blameless of this thine oath which thou hast made us swear. Behold, when we come into the land, thou shalt bind this LINE of scarlet thread in the window which thou didst let us down by: and thou shalt bring thy father, and thy mother, and thy brethren, and all thy father's household, home unto thee." Jos 2:15-18

CORD H2256 chebel

also ruin: - band, coast, company, cord, country, destruction, line, lot, pain, pang, portion, region, rope, snare, sorrow, tackling.

LINE H8615 tiqvh

figuratively expectancy: - expectation ([-ted]), hope, live, thing that I long for.

So between CORD (ruin, pain,sorrow) and LINE (expectation, hope)

is HIDE...THREE DAYS

This passage is an allusion, by The Holy Spirit, to the sorrow of the cross, three days in the grave and the hope of the resurrection: "ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES"

This event occurs just prior to the people of Israel crossing the Jordan and entering The Promised Land.

Are you hearing this from those who are quoting 1 Peter 3:3? If so, I don't believe that this is a correct interpretation of Scripture. Peter was speaking about those women (wives) who put much emphasis on the way their cut & wore their hair, wearing of jewellery, or desiring the finest of clothing. Rather, he says, that their holy, godly lives, coupled with a meek & quiet spirit, will speak in greater volume of the 'real woman', than an outward display of themselves (& that in some cases, are meant to be a distraction from what may be missing inwardly).

So please continue to wear your wedding ring, showing to all, the band of gold that speaks of the great love & commitment you have only to each other, in the Lord, till death separates you. But if their accusations against you get too much, leave them & find a Fellowship where the Word of God is preached & practised. I know of some in the Brethren who remove all their jewellery & put on that special pious appearance for their Assembly meetings, but revert back to their former selves once outside the doors.

In 1 Corinthians 7:13-15, we read of a marriage that has a Christian spouse & a non-Christian spouse. If they're happy to remain together (in spite of their differences & associated problems), then they should keep the sanctity of the marriage by remaining together. However (in v 15), if the non-Christian spouse really wants to separate or divorce, he/she shouldn't be stopped from doing so & they should separate.

BUT, for many Christians they now see that a licence is given here for a re-marriage to take place, because the verse says, "A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases". This is not the case. Paul means that a Christian should not be in 'bondage' (or, being caged or chained up in a constant state of suffering, abuse or hatred) because of being compelled to hold the marriage together; one party should be free to go.

Nevertheless, the other Scripture remains in force, "And I (Jesus) say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery." ( Matthew 19:9). So, if there's a separation/divorce, the believing spouse has to remain unmarried or else they would be committing adultery. The reference to "fornication", given by the Lord, was when it was found out by a spouse, during the betrothal or after a marriage had taken place, that there was 'uncleanness' in the other: i.e. where one was unfaithful at that time. In those days, the betrothal period was part of the marriage bond - not like today, when a couple could opt to cancel the engagement for any reason.

In the Apocryphal Book, Ecclesiasticus, there are 51 chapters. In the Book of Ecclesiastes (in the Canon of Scripture) there are only 12 chapters. Are you referring to this Book, or maybe the chapter 19 you seek is in the Apocryphal Book?

Hello Skip,

The Lord is so amazing. Tonight I just opened my Bible and read as sometimes I do just to let the Holy Spirit guide me. I was reading in 1 Samuel about the life of David. I really can't say it has any correlation to Jesus rising on the third day but as soon as I read it I thought of you and how it connects. In "his spirit came again to him" and "three days and three nights". 1 Samuel 30:12

Just another option (aside from Dr. Katz) for you to consider as to the meaning of those verses 10 & 13. Verse 10 clearly shows that Haman's ten sons were killed but Esther made a special request for them & their father Haman, to be hanged (vv 14 & 25).

Sometimes, amongst the heathen, those criminals who were hanged, had their corpses left on the tree, sometimes for a short spell or until they were consumed. Esther may have resorted to a similar act, whereby the full impact of the wickedness of Haman & his sons (who would have been complicit to their father's crime), become an ongoing witness to all people, of their wickedness & God's deliverance of the Jews. So the Feast of Purim, became an everlasting memorial for the Jews.

Rod I apologize for not responding sooner. Thank you for your kindness to reply. I have been put on trial by some comments about my relationship with God on a personal level and was thinking that i do not have anything to contribute to this site. I am very guilty of having an unchangeable heart.

I see so many answers to questions that i believe are unable to be answered by anyone when it comes to the way to salvation. So i just wanted to share my love for God. as unworthy as I have been to receive such an overwhelming personal experience with God, who is my Heavenly Father. Thank you so much and i hope that my testimony brings you comfort that God is truly within those who search for him. Thank you for your reply.

Pray for Richard and Elizabeth to obtain custody of their 4 year old precious grand-daughter, Sophia Rose, to raise her with care, in their loving Christ-centered home. Her mom, Claire (R and E's daughter) is a single parent, doing drugs and neglectful towards her own little girl, which is so heartbreaking for this family. Pray for Claire's salvation, recovery and healing. Pray angels protect, guide and lovingly comfort Sophia Rose. Pray for God's compassion, presence, grace, wisdom and reconciliation within this family. Thank you for your prayers.

Common Hebrew understanding of the heavens. The heavens in the Old Testament are fairly earth centered, much in the same way we look at the universe.

The first heaven is the earth atmosphere. In this atmosphere, birds fly and clouds form. This heaven is spoken of often in the Old Testament. "The Lord will open the heavens, the storehouse of his bounty, to send rain on your land in season and to bless all the work of your hands" ( Deuteronomy 28:12).

The second heaven the Hebrews described consisted of the universe as we know it. This heaven consisted of sun, moon, and stars. "In the heavens he has pitched a tent for the sun . . . It rises at one end of the heavens and makes its circuit to the other . . . " ( Psalm 19:4,6).

The third heaven is the dwelling place of God. This was the experience Paul described. "In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven" ( Matthew 5:16). God dwells in the highest heaven, "But will God really dwell on earth? The heavens, even the highest heavens cannot contain you" ( 1 Kings 8:27)

That's not a question that one could easily answer as all judgement is executed by our great Judge only. And then again, how do you understand a 'backslider'? Is he/she given over to some repetitive sin(s), is now coming to the Lord for forgiveness, but still finds it hard to give up that sin? Or to the other extreme, has that person gone totally into a sinful lifestyle, has no remorse & in many ways, rejected God, & Christ's offer? So, what I'm saying here, has the 'backslider' ever 'slid forward' in the first place? Has he or she, ever been born again by God's Spirit? How these questions are answered may give you a clue as to the state of that soul, & yet there remains a place of repentance which the Lord offers to all in sin.

Raymond W.Smith,

The ancient practice was to hang your enemies in a public display, as was the case in 1Samuel 31, where Saul and his sons were displayed on the city walls. When John Milius wrote Apocalypse Now, his mad Colonel Kurtz character employed the same tactic in the Vietnam era to create fear in his enemies.

I found the explanation by SkipVought to be thoroughly entertaining and I will never forget it. However I might want to investigate it further, I doubt I will ever find the sages and commentators, no doubt the Kabbalistic sort, on line to see for myself the veracity of such a tale of divine justice. You will note that where Skip left Agag alive, a few verses later Samuel hacks him to death, 1 Samuel 31. The label of Haman as an "Agagite" is more of an ethnic connection to Agag, rather than a bloodline, but I wouldn't lose any sleep over it if he was.:)

Kratom has many uses, such as treating wounds, but as with a lot of things can also be abused or used in the wrong manner. Using a plant that God created for medicinal purposes is one thing. Using that plant to obtain a "high" or the opioid effect is another. There are serious side effects that come with high doses of kratom and especially with long term use. Dependency or addiction may be hard to overcome. The best thing you can do is stop as soon as possible. Change your lifestyle. If you are born again you are repenting of your sins and stumbling blocks. Time to overcome. The feeling of God's presence in your life feels far greater than any high that can be purchased. You can do this!

Cigarettes, will kill you. Point blank. Use patches to ween your body from the nicotine addiction. Chew gum or use suckers.

"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me."

Pray for the strength to quit and for the strength to overcome the urge or temptation to use again.

Anytime you feel the urge open your Bible or pray.

You have the will power.

Hi Emma.

1 Corinthians 10:1-2 (KJV) Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;

I think if we also take Hebrews 11:29 and connect the story to these 2 passages it may shed some light on your questions.

Hebrews 11:29. By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned.

When Water Baptism is taken place we're professing being Identified with the death and resurrection of Christ and Baptized here in 1 Corinthians 10-2 is used the same way, The children of Israel is Identified with Moses when they crossed the red sea. "By faith they passed through the Red sea" By who's faith? their owns? NO "They crossed over by Moses faith " They was Identified with him. When we read the story we see they were scared, They wanted to go back to Egypt.

They water had nothing to do with it, they went over on dry ground. Thank you,

god's message to me

Can a backslider still make heaven?

Here's more to like Iko.

2 Samuel 22:1-3 (KJV) And David spake unto the LORD the words of this song in the day that the LORD had delivered him out of the hand of all his enemies, and out of the hand of Saul:

And he said, The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer;

The God of my rock; in him will I trust: he is my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my high tower, and my refuge, my saviour; thou savest me from violence.

Are there any quotes in the New testament you like as well?

Hello Terri,

Someone the other day asked the question of "how do I know if I have the Holy Ghost". Receiving two great replies from two wonderful brothers here. Here is the link for you to read them: Link

Hope that helps. God Bless.

Hi Rusty,

My condolence goes out to you, your wife and the family, We will keep them in our prayers. God bless you

I need to put God first in everything i do and say in my life and family life

Hi, Raymond,

This is a fantastically interesting question.

About 5 centuries earlier, in the days of King Saul, in 1 Samuel 15, the prophet, Samuel, instructed King Saul to attack Israel's mortal enemy, Amalek, and "smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." But King Saul did not obey the instruction from God, and allowed King Agag to live.

Esther, Hadassah, her Jewish name, is elevated to be the Queen of a Gentile nation, Persia and Media, and no one but her uncle knew her Jewish ethnicity. Her life crosses paths with a rabid Jew hater, Haman the Agagite. Is he a descendant of King Agag, the Amalekite?

In Esther, she asks The King "If it please the king, let it be granted to the Jews which are in Shushan to do to morrow also according unto this day's decree, and let Haman's ten sons be hanged upon the gallows." Est 9:13

As stated by Dr. Moshe Katz of the Hebrew University,

"The ten sons of Haman had already been killed, why bother to hang them? In the writings of the Sages and the commentators, we find several ideas that could clarify this: On the word 'tomorrow,' in Esther's request, the Sages comment: 'There is a tomorrow that is now, and a tomorrow which is later.' In other words, Esther was asking that the hanging of Haman's ten sons not remain an isolated episode in history, but should recur in the future, as well."

In effect, Esther was asking King Ahasuarus to hang the ten sons of Haman on the tomorrow that is now and the King of the Universe to hand the ten sons of Haman on the tomorrow which is later.

When ancient scribes wrote the names of Haman's sons, 3 Hebrew characters were smaller and 1 was larger. The number that these 4 character represent is 5707, as a Hebrew year, equates to 1946, the year of the Nuremberg executions, where 10 Germans, guilty of crimes against humanity were hanged. Was this the "tomorrow which is later?"

What will you have with you always? It is in Proverbs I think

who was the people that rose when Jesus open the grave

Ok, I read too quickly and understand you want just old testament:

Hosea 6:2

I am very familiar with the list of sins as declared in Romans chapter 1 & have never denied the severity of them & that judgement is certain on all who are given to any type of sin.

The problem I have with your understanding, as others here do, is the manner in which you force Scripture to mean what it is never intended to mean. A good example is in what you have just written about Romans 1: "those in S&G have changed into images like animals, birds, creeping things and vipers you do not believe that scripture also stated in Romans 1".

So, you believe that those in Sodom have actually changed into those images, or at least, that's how God sees them (& us). Whereas what does the verse say? Verse 23: "And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God INTO AN IMAGE made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things." How does changing the Glory of God (i.e. His Image) into the likeness of animals (i.e. into an idol), suddenly become "that we have become into images like animals, birds, etc."?

So, my perception is still correct: you have developed in your mind that the severity of sin, especially unnatural sex/fornication is the root cause for all sin to emanate from, that everything you see in Scripture points to & supports your belief - even if it means a total denial of the natural understanding of the Scripture. At least on this website, you won't find support, as there will always be someone to withstand such a skewed understanding - though I don't know what effect this type of teaching has on those who might visit your website or read your books. I won't even begin to comment on the rest of your discussion here, when even the basic principles of comprehension are not adhered to. Thank you for your time.

Hi Michael.

I suppose I Would get an interpret who speaks Greek, ""since Greek is not considered an unknown tongue to a Greek. And the interpreter wouldn't have to have the holyspirit to relay the msg.

Or I would go online and use a translator.

However this couldn't be done in those days during Pentecost God did something special for the lost sheep of Israel who had been scattered and picked up other languages. Acts 2:4-11. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with ""other tongues"", as the Spirit gave them utterance.

And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.

Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.

And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?

"" Notice this next verse, the emphasis here is not on the speaking, it's on the hearing""" The gift to interpret.

((And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?))

Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,

Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,

Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.

Michael today the Gospel is being taken to the world mostly by radio and some in person, Not in unknown tongues but in other tongues. ""Not by force, but in Charity. ( Love ).

John 13:34-35. A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

Covet the best Gift. ( Love) God bless.

Nicholas L Langas ,hi ,i dont know how old you are or how long you have been smoking for ,im in my mid 50's and i smoked for 25years and gave up when i was 41years old ,it was definately the hardest but one of the very best things i ever did ,my original motivation to stop was financial ,cigarettes are expensive in england ,after only a few days without a cigarette i felt physically better but i was very agitated and stressed ,i didnt use any supliments to help me ,the first two weeks were honestly a nightmare for me and every one around me ! I wasnt an easy person to be around ! After two full weeks i knew i could do it if i really wanted to ,i think this is the key ,you have to REALLY want to stop and be DETERMINED to stop ,if you are not fully commited to stopping you will give in to temptation ,every morning i would say ,"im not going to smoke today ,if i really want one tomorrow i can have one ,but not today " after 3 months i was sane again ,its a hard road but it feels grrreat when you get to the point where you know you wont smoke ever again ,you can do anything with Gods help ,ask Him to help strengthen your resolve and may you never smoke again ,may God bless you .

Adam, none of the New Testament had been written when this creed was first spoken, just a short time after The Resurrection. The only "Scriptures" they had would have would have been the writings that we know as The Old Testament.

Pray for Jim, a Drilling Engineer, 500 miles out in the ocean that he will be able to finish his contract and return home soon to his family. May God Bless You Always.