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When "The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us," He laid aside His Divine prerogatives or privileges. Jesus "made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men," says that He emptied Himself, but not of His divinity. There was a song many decades ago called, "He Could Have Called Ten-thousand Angels." Instead, "He humbled Himself and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."

Jesus had a human nature but He also had a divine nature. He was fully human and fully divine. He had no sin nature as we do. He did many things by His own power as well as relying of The Father and The Spirit. He had ALL His divine attributes.

I believe that this is a physical manifestation of the pre-incarnate Messiah, who Christians refer to as the Second Person of the One Eternal God; one revelation, if you wish, of a multitude in The Old Testament that reveal the Three Persons of The Godhead.

Take this one from Zechariah: there are TWO Persons of the Godhead; God The Father [GTF] and God The Son [GTS]

And the angel of the LORD [GTS] protested unto Joshua, saying, "Thus saith the LORD of hosts [GTF]; 'If thou wilt walk in my [GTF] ways, and if thou wilt keep my [GTF] charge, then thou shalt also judge my [GTF] house, and shalt also keep my [GTF] courts, and I [GTF] will give thee places to walk among these that stand by. Hear now, O Joshua the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they are men wondered at: for, behold, I [GTF] will bring forth my servant the BRANCH [GTS]. For behold the stone that I [GTF] have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I [GTF] will engrave the graving thereof,' saith the LORD of hosts [GTF], 'and I [GTF] will remove the iniquity of that land in one day. In that day,' saith the LORD of hosts [GTF], 'shall ye call every man his neighbour under the vine and under the fig tree.'" Zec 3:6-10 (KJV)

Here's a passage that has all Three of The Godhead:

"Come ye near unto me [GTS], hear ye this; I [GTS] have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I [GTS]: and now the Lord GOD [GTF], and his Spirit [HS], hath sent me [GTS]." Isa 48:16 (KJVA)

Start at verse 3 and follow who is speaking. The speaker in verse 12 says "I am he; I am the first, I also am the last." That's about as clear a statement of who the speaker is, The Son of God.

"No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."Joh 1:18 (KJV)

Bottom line: many evidences in the OT of the pre-incarnate Christ and Jacob met Him, in all likelihood.

Hi Mild Bill

All of us means both political parties.

"Marilyn Taplin,

" All people are born righteous and die when they sin." According to Marilyn Taplin.

Have you remained righteous or did you die too? In describing your thoughts on the subject it is important for us to understand how you fit into this teaching of yours.

Hi Mild Bill,

We actually agree, The short of it is ,I opened up with a question, quoting " Why do we " Blame " the government for our own behavior?

You see we got a constitution created with biblical principles as you said and I agree.

The constitution can't change the heart of the individual just like the law couldn't change the heart of a jew. He's a jew outwardly not inwardly,

Individually the Holyspirit should govern our hearts. The jews was never able to accomplish the law, and Righteousness wasn't to come by it, tho they was inspired and never amended. Its called the ministry of condemnation, And we was never able fulfill the constitution yet it was amended 27 times I think. We are now in the Church age, The spirit takes residents in us we're without out excuses so as an individual Christian we can't blame the Government. but as a nation its scary because we should have a greater influence than any other country, A Christian is known by the love we have for one another, as A Christian nation it shouldn't be no different.

Other countries see us no different than them. Israel was called a degenerate vine, The LORD is the true vine the church is the branches, we bare fruit because we're connected to him not the nation.

As I'm not here to get into any discussion. Just to note a couple things. So you seem to want to read or speak in old English? Do you have some problem with the letter "J"? You said the name "Jon" did you mean "Ion"? The word "justice" you mean "iustice"?

The Tetragrammaton or the four Hebrew letters of the Lords name "YHWH". Which first off Hebrew is right to left so that is backwards from what it is in Hebrew. The letters pronounced "Yod" "He" "Waw" "He" separate. As you can kind of see where people might pronounce it "YaHWeH". In modern Hebrew "Waw" is "Vav". Where "YaHoVaH" comes from. Although from someone who speaks Hebrew it is probably pronounced different than I might say it in English.

Iesus is not pronounced "Jee-Zus" as you state. If some people can't pronounce the first "s" as an "s" that's not my problem and to me no big deal anyway. The Lord searches hearts not how you exactly pronounce something.

These types of things about the name of the Lord very much sadden me and bring much division between people. I was saved by the name Jesus Christ. We truly should set our hearts on things of above. The Word. In the Holy Bible. Love is the key. To produce good fruit for our Father in Heaven and make Him happy. Find real relationship. There is nothing wrong with searching for the truth. Although the internet is flooded with false things. We must be sober and vigilant. Let the Holy Spirit guide you if you have been blessed to receive.

Please don't take what I wrote the wrong way. You must be expecting friction here with the things you posted. I will not be writing on this again but I felt to leave a post.

God Bless you in your journey.

DearMarilyn

You stated men are born righteousness, My response was no one is born righteous. Being right right with God doesn't make you sinless.

Our righteousness don't purify the heart

Isaiah 64:6. But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Christ righteousness has to be imputed on to us. In that case all that truly accepted Christ should be on that list

Let's first look at the verse in Psalms YOU gave to validate your point.



""It don't quote the way you presented it"" However what you added argues my point for me..

You quoting """When an unjust person returns to God they will be justified, made just again""" Here is a few more verses to add to your quote.

2 Corinthians 5:21. For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Romans 3:22 . Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

Isaiah 53:11. He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

Job even disagrees with you:

Job 15:14-16. What is man, that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?

Behold, he putteth no trust in his saints; yea, the heavens are not clean in his sight.

How much more abominable and filthy is man, which drinketh iniquity like water?

If you believe that's a list of sinless men I'm sure David would disagree with you also.

If we can be right with God our deliverance would have came from the law!!

Amen Thank You Our Father Amen

who was Tychicus and what was his purpose?

When will be be turning 72? My grandpa was 71 years old when he died. He would have been 73 this August. I like your name Emily! How old are you? When's your birthday? I would love to encourage you throughout this difficult time of yours.

Many blessings and prayers,

Sarah Chessiy

Hello AyinRaah,

I agree with the verse you shared, but do not agree with your interpretation of it.

It says: "but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them."

That means Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob did not know His name. That's all it says.

However, your interpreted that to mean more than what it actually says, "God said very clearly, those who call me by "Jehova" do not know me,"

No, God did not say that. For example, you don't know my name unless I volunteer it to you. That doesn't mean somehow that if you say my name that you magically don't know me- or that you would be disowned if you said it.

It's important to read the Bible literally and to not inadvertently add to it.

This app has really shown me good and bad, thank you so much

This is the correct Bible verse.

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"And I appeared vnto Abraham, vnto Isaac, and vnto Iacob, by the Name of God Almighty, but by my name IEHOVAH was I not knowen to them."

YHWH's name is not pronounced [Yah-How-Wha] phonetically. Similarly, Iesus's name is not pronounced "Yeh-Shoo-Ah". His name is repeated throughout scripture as Iesus [Jee-Zus].

YHWH's is referred to as "The All Mighty", "The Alpha and Omega", "I Am", "Breath of Life". Saying [Yah-Way], or [Jeh-Ho-Vah] is not his name. YHWH are the letter that express the Lord's name. Similarly, you would call someone name "Jon" [Jay-Oh-En]. It's like trying to say his name by speaking out letters.

Jesus said a number of things at the last meeting that His disciples heard. The Evangelists chose to record what The Holy Spirit lead each to do.

See Mark 16:14-19.

See Luke 24:44-51 and Acts 1:3-8. Seems that Doctor Luke might have run out of scroll writing his Gospel and continued his account at the beginning of The Acts of The Apostles. Acts1:9-11 continues with The Ascension.

John recorded nothing related to this event.

So I'd assume that all these things were said by Jesus and that they saw Jesus ascend to The Father. "But some doubted." Matt 28:17.

David, may the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

The angel of the Lord of the old testament is the same as Jehovah of the old testament and is the same that came in the flesh that we know as Jesus Christ and is now back in the glorified body he has had since he was begotten of the Father. The angel of the Lord is a man in a glorified body, Jehovah is a man in a glorified body. Jehovah set aside his glorified body and took upon himself a body like sinful flesh and was manifest as the man Jesus Christ who died for us to reconcile his brothers and sisters to the Father. Then at his resurrection took back the glorified body he laid down for us. Let's look at some of the scriptures that shed light on this. All angels have glorified bodies like their archangel the angel of the Lord.

Exodus 3:2 The angel of the Lord appeared to him (Moses) in a flame of fire......

Exodus 3:14 And God (Jehovah) said unto Moses (as the angel of the Lord out of the burning bush)I AM that I AM.....

John 8:58 .... before Abraham was, I AM.

Genesis 18:1 And the Lord appeared unto him (Abraham).....

Genesis 18:2 And he (Abraham) lift up his eyes and looked, and lo, THREE MEN stood by him...

Genesis 18:22 And the (two) men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the Lord (Jehovah, the third man).

Genesis 32:24 And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man.....

Hosea 12:4 Yet he (Jacob) had power over the angel......

Hebrews 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entered angels unawares.

Psalm 103:20 Bless ye the Lord, ye HIS ANGELS....

Meditate upon the implications this last verse implies.

There are many more scriptures that parallel the angel, Jehovah and Jesus Christ, but not enough space in 2000 words to write them all.

Ask for the Spirits wisdom and understanding and YE SHALL RECEIVE.

We all know what jesus accomplished ... what i would like to know is how he did it. ???????????????

What is the gospel of reconciliation ????

I love god

This is the love of God sewn in my heart. These are the words that God has given me. I return these words to God and show you how much I love God and how i constantly seek him out for myself. I am here to share my simplicity of how God has touched my life. I have never been wise.

The smallest of all three me's

is in my youngest memories..

In the green pastures i will forever find her there ...

Beside the still waters she plays without a care...

By her tiny right hand God led her to this place...

He let her little body fall

And set a choice all Gods children face...

No words were spoken by her Heavenly Father that fleshy ears would hear...

Her soul was gathered in God's love that innocently was without fear...

He gave her the choice of live or to die..

She chose to live and she told her Heavenly Father why..

She knew by death ... here she would remain..

In the presence of God's love .. no words can explain..

She answered

"i would like to live so i can play"

God restored her soul. By his gift of life. ...is the very breath she breathed..

Where she had fallen as dead upon the grass ..

Her first death has come to pass...

God opened her eyes

She was able to see...

There was no veil to divide....

God opened her ears to hear.. upon her heart he wrote his law for her life she would abide..

He planted a seed and its hidden in her heart...

Such a gift found in the words she sews....

In Gods love she continues to grow..

C. L. Ford

Does the able speaks on smoking

What does the Song of Solomon mean in Chapter 7 verses 1-3

Sacha thank you for understanding. When i say " blind faith" it means that when i call upon God for understanding i rely on how the scriptures are shown to me without looking for a certain scripture to justify what I have been told to believe. I can not begin to understand what no man can declare to understand. God has always been present in my life. In a personal way. His living word has been my guide for my blind faith to accept what he has set in front of me. A choice to love the Lord God and have no other equal to or above him. To obey the commandment and not question it, blind faith to search out God's word for personal accounting of my own thoughts and declarations. This i will be judged by. As in this

22But what is commanded thee, think thereupon with reverence, for it is not needful for thee to see with thine eyes the things that are in secret.23Be not curious in unnecessary matters: for more things are shewed unto thee than men understand.24For many are deceived by their own vain opinion; and an evil suspicion hath overthrown their judgment.

hello my name is Nuriah Ben Israel

How can you say no one is righteous? Job is perfect and upright and he fears God. Job 2:3. The fear of God is to hate evil. Job hated evil. Job 1:1 "Job...was perfect and upright and feared god."

Job 2:9 "Then said (1) his wife unto him, Doest thou still retain thine integrity? curse God , and die." The cross reference (1) sends me to Gen. 3:6 where Eve eats of the tree of good and evil and so did Adam. Job's wife said the same as Eve said to Adam. But Job said, "thou speakest as one of the foolish women." He know who the foolish people were. The foolish are speaking of those given to unnatural sex as stated in Romans, professing to be wise they became fools. Job would not join his wife in foolish. Noah was perfect, Gen 6:9 "Noah was a just man and perfect."

The just have wisdom:

Characteristics of the just:

Pro. 10:20, "The tongue of the just is as choice silver"

Pro. 10:31, "The mouth of the just bringeth forth wisdom."

Pro. 4:18, "But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the

perfect day

Ps 7:9, "Oh let the wickedness of the wicked come to an end; but establish the just: for the righteous God trieth the hearts and reins." When an unjust person returns to God they will be justified, made just again.

I have a partial list of those in the Bible who are just and perfect.

Able

Noah in the Ark

Lot when delivered

Abraham

Isaac

Jacob

David

Elijah

Jonah

Moses

Joshua

Jeremiah

Joseph

Daniel

Shadrack

Meshach

Abednego

John the Baptist

Mary

Jesus

71 and mommy talked to grandmother yesterday but there's no change, better or worse.

Can God forgive ALL of our sins because In Matthew 12:31 the Bible clearly tells us that he doesn't forgive that sin and Why can't he forgive that sin

S Spencer,

"The difference is we help build this country the way it is, "" ALL OF US""

If you want to include yourself, I don't know you well enough to object,

however, "all" is an accusation against brethren, and we both know who

is famous for that.

America is one of the least ungodly nations on Earth. The bedrock is

the Constitution, created with biblical principles in the minds of the

writers. It is a contract between the people who understand their

political rights come from God, and the government. The people agree to comply

with the government when the government follows the Constitution/law. The

problem we have today is that the governing bodies are departing from

following the Constitution. You can't legislate people to be saved.

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people". It is

wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams

Too many Americans are strangers to the word of God.

To your point, believers have a part in shaping our society but the decline

in morality is not something "all" believers must bear. I am persuaded that

laodicean lukewarmness is on the rise in representing the church in the

world today. A seduction of wealth and goods has blinded many a local

church from seeing it's need for a lord to rule and a purpose to accomplish.

That church is neither hot/soothing or cold/refreshing to our Lord. Workers

in the harvest are sparse and that ought not to be. All is not lost, because

our Lord is still offering Laodiceans gold, to repentent ones.

It is laziness to project the end of times is near and all world wrongs will be

righted in some biblical cataclysmic event, when instead, working to increase

the harvest of souls is indeed something of our Lords will we know pleases him.

That repentence could usher in a revival of the true church with godly believers.

Why rant/vent here?

Mankind was cursed the day Adam chose to be his own God,

Jesus overcame the curse, he was tempted in all points such as we are yet without sin,

He always did those things which pleased his father.

Jesus never gave himself to the lusts of the flesh, the lust of the eyes or the pride of life.

HE NEVER KNEW INIQUITY,

Ironic that Even Jesus could not accomplish what he did with out the spirit of his father abiding in him..

what would be the uncleanness of a man.

I have a question. When Jesus gave this last commandment (Matthew 2820), was this the last time the disciples saw Jesus? Is this what Jesus said as he ascended into heaven? Thank you