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The Book of Judges shows Israel in limbo. The great leadership of Moses & Joshua ended with their deaths, & the ruler ship of the kings had not begun. And to make matters worse, there was no prophetic voice to be heard at this time, not until the last judge & prophet, Samuel. So the spiritual state of Israel was very low & they were given, as they often did, to the practises of the heathen around them. God had raised judges (like Othniel, Gideon, Samson, Deborah, Jepthah, etc.) in the time between Joshua & King Saul so that Israel could deal with their enemies & in conquering the land, but their spiritual life turned to one of full apostasy.

Then in Judges chapter 17, we read, as an addendum, the life of one Micah & his Mother. He had taken some money from her without her knowledge, she had placed a curse on the one who stole it, Micah admitted to the crime & she forgave him. That money (the silver) was what she wanted to melt down to make an idol from it, for the benefit of her son & the household. Micah already had many idols, even consecrating one of his sons as a priest to administer the worship - showing how spiritually dry & perverted this family & their times were in. And verse 6 is the central theme of this Book, indeed of the life of Israel: "every man did that which was right in their own eyes", by forsaking the True God & His Commandments.

Anyway, in time, a Levite (of the Tribe of Levi & consecrated to do service in the Tabernacle - but without a job), happened to pass by Micah's home. Micah took the opportunity to have him be his live-in priest instead, even offering a stipend, clothing & food. However, this Levite (we understand his name as Jonathan (18:30)), was not authorized to be a priest, but such was the condition in those days, that 'anything goes'. And you can read more of this fearful despicable condition in the following chapter & chapter 19, reminiscent of the days of Lot & Sodom & Gomorrah.

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Hello brothers and sisters. I'm asking a question about Salvation. I'm a new Christian. I have a KJV bible and have been reading it everyday in depth trying learn more of what I must due to be truly saved as well as my Catholic wife. It has been brought to my attention that in the book of John, water baptism is different from a spiritual baptism? I know I am not Jewish and so I don't think a water baptism applies to me to be saved, after reading Ephesians by Paul. It seems to me that maybe churches that say I must be baptized in water to be saved is false? I'm new to Christianity, and I'm asking due to my ignorance of understanding the bible. I know that Jesus was coming to save the Jews and so maybe their Salvation is different from Gentiles, aka Me and my wife? I would love to have someone let me know how to truly be saved because I suffered spiritual attacks from being a philosopher and learning about eastern religions and free masonry. Thank you!

help me please!

I'm just quoting from my Bible:

"Zephaniah, of noble birth (1:1; his great-grandfather being King Hezekiah of the Tribe of Judah), apparently helped prepare Judah for the revival which took place under good King Josiah in 621 BC ( 2 Chronicles 34:3). For more than half a century, times had been evil under kings Manasseh & Amon, & Zephaniah called his people to repentance. Reform came, but after Josiah, the leaders & many of the people reverted to their old ways".

"Judgement is the central theme of the Book - immediate fulfilment happened when Judah was captured by Nebuchadnezzar, but ultimate fulfilment during the "Day of the Lord" in the coming Great Tribulation".

In respect of "God slaughtering animals for skins for Adam & Eve's covering", I don't see that this act of God instituted a blood sacrifice system. It was purely for the covering of their bodies. However, this does introduce the fact that these delightful animals created alongside Adam, were also created to be killed one day, whether for food, clothing or sacrifice.

We're not told how Adam & Eve found forgiveness & restoration from their first, & subsequent sins: whether by a blood sacrifice or some other way. In regards to Cain & Abel's offering to the Lord, again, we're not told: it could have been that Cain's offering was rejected as it was a non-blood offering or he could have done so with wrong motives. In any case, we don't even know whether the offerings given were for sin or maybe was another type of offering: a love or thank offering maybe.

So a lot of unknowns here in Genesis but when God commenced a blood offering in Genesis chapters 8, 22, etc. (just a burnt offering & not necessarily for sin) & then officially in Exodus 29:9 ff, we see that God had to exact payment for man's sin & He did so through sacrificing of animals as their blood only covered their sins until the next sacrifice. But Jesus became the one & only Sacrifice, so no other sacrifice would ever be needed nor could ever be found.

I want you to give me all the verses that talk about fornication (premarital sex) because i want to show an atheist that it is a sin. Thank you use my email.

In reflection of Ecclesiasticus 3:21 - 24

21.Seek not out things that are too hard for thee, neither search the things that are above thy strength.



22But what is commanded thee, think thereupon with reverence, for it is not needful for thee to see with thine eyes the things that are in secret.

23Be not curious in unnecessary matters: for more things are shewed unto thee than men understand.

24For many are deceived by their own vain opinion; and an evil suspicion hath overthrown their judgment.

What I take from the book , based on this chapters verses, in context and out.. is this..

Beautifully written and preserved for those who seek out wisdom. Easy to understand for exactly what it is saying..

This is why i hold my tongue to reply to questions on any subject, topic or scripture questions .

In reference to verse 24. I hold myself accountable for what I declare to understand . But I will not hold my tongue still to those who God chooses to gather to me.

I have a great love in my heart for ('my ') God, my Heavenly Father that saves me from my own vanity.

I can hear his voice in my heart and soul. I believe he calls us to return to him.

Paul, the Apocryphal Books were not included in the Canon of Scripture (i.e. what the learned men over the centuries, & particularly in the 16th Century during the Protestant Reformation, deemed were the authoritative books to make up our Bible today). They used various criteria to arrive at their decision. Some of these: were the authors genuine, known, & confirmed by other writings; were the texts given in harmony with other Scriptures; did the texts have any errors that were in conflict with accepted Scriptures; what was the background & influences that the authors faced in initiating those books; & probably many more.

If you do an examination of the Apocryphal Books, as listed here in KJB Online, you will see some differences, a few quite glaring. But if you can't spend the time, I'm sure others have done it & have posted online for you to check out the Scriptures. In relation to 1 & 2 Esdras, I did a quick search & Compelling Truth dot org have given a short write-up.

In some other Bibles, particularly the Roman Catholic edition, you will find the Apocryphal Books alongside 'our Bible', as much of their beliefs & practises stem from those books which are not found in the Canon of Scripture, e.g. purgatory. Personally, I don't refer to those 'spurious' books as one has to be very astute & knowledgeable to pick up on some errors contained there & I have enough of a struggle coping with the Bible & its vital messages, let alone adding more to challenge me or lead me astray. I don't say that those books are rife with errors, but be careful as you read them & always come back to the Word of God.

How did Adam and Eve's children get a wife?

This type of situation can be annoying & upsetting when your act of kindness gets abused. I assume that you have raised the matter with your neighbours so that they are aware of it & that they still pursue this attitude & action.

You could do as your wife suggests & write-off the extra costs, as the 'Christian thing' to do, but if that will only leave you constantly upset & out-of-pocket, then you might have to consider other options. If these utilities have a direct connection to your mobile home, they would have their own meters; then you can specify to them that your charges of rent only apply to the use of the home only - they have to meet other costs (you could even lower your rent slightly to allow for that). If their bills don't get paid then the utilities are cut off. Or if you feel more generous, keep your rental cost the same & offer to pay for half of their utility bills.

If however, they get their utilities via your meters, it becomes more difficult & expensive. You might have to consult your utility suppliers to have a sub-meters installed that will record water/electricity usage to the mobile home. And then apply the same arrangement for the tenant to pay those bills.

Since there is probably no rental contract involved here, you can advise them that the monthly rental cost will fluctuate depending on what you determine their usage will be according to the bills you receive. This however, would not be the best option & a lot of disputes will come up as to what they have or have not used. Or else, just raise the rent across the board to be able to meet at least some of the extra costs.

But from a Christian view point, I wouldn't allow this issue to keep on going in the way it is. It needs to be dealt with & the people need to know that they do wrong by over-using your resources. Or else, just turn a blind eye & allow God to meet your extra expenses & to deal with them accordingly. In any case, a proper contract needs to be in place.

Wondering why Elihu was not mentioned in final chapter of Job. Anyone out there have any thoughts, as related to Elihu?

Very well said. I have great caution and fear of offending God with my own declarations to consider myself wise to know such things. But I love God and his mercy is beyond my own worthiness of his favor upon my life. I made peace with my lack of understanding with my blind faith in the laws given by Moses. So i don't debate the world but i will comfort the few who truly seek out the truth. My understanding is from my own experience and personal relationship with my God. The living God, my heart and soul is his gift .

Helen I do not quote scripture to answer questions. I search for answers and use my own understanding of what I have experienced with my own journey through my wilderness.

Declare your own heart. This is the fruit of my seed. Let God lead your words.

When you read the King James Bible did you get the impression it was missing something?

I also search this subject. I have written my own books of remembrance to honor God and preserve his presence in my own lifetime. I have survived the most UnGodly cruelty of mankind upon children, as a child who survived sex

trafficking. As I remember God being my strength. So I believe that books are still being written. because we search for God and God comforts us and corrects us in words . As well as in our hearts and souls. Just my opinion..

I am going to comment to mark this conversation before I read the verse . I think crosses are idolatry and found many references on this topic

Thank you very much for your comments. It was very helpful. If you would enlighten me a bit father on the blood sacrifice. My question would you say the shedding of blood sacrifice started with Adam and Eve. When God slaughter the animals for the skins to cover their shame. Would you say this was the first blood sacrifice.

In simple terms, this is a written guarantee from The Most High to all those who place absolute trust and confidence in Him. Thus, we need not fear COVID-19, nor have need of the experimental vaccines. Shalom dear one. Praise Yah.

Ok. how come my king james bible does not have apocrafic books ?

thank you for your answer paul liverpool england.

There is physical death and spiritual death. Those given to unnatural sex are said to be twice dead. They are not physically dead. But they are spiritually dead. There are three ways to die. 1. Sin will kill the righteous. 2. There is physical death. 3. Truth will slay the wicked. We need a lot more truth to be spoken. This is a very wicked generation and is much like the generation in the days of Noah. I am waiting for the truth to go out.

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What is the ethnicity of Zephaniah?

If you go on KJV website it's in the Apocrypha-books, have a great day

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IT IS SINFUL TO DIE A BODILY DEATH. For Jesus Christ IS come in his own flesh (with GOD, having made the whole world to know that Jesus Christ IS come in the flesh, even raised from the dead.) So, IT IS SINFUL TO DIE A BODILY DEATH. He that says he loves Christ, yet says he shall die a bodily death, he IS a hypocrite, a liar, a devil, a serpent, a viper, a deceiver and an antichrist. Any (who are not of the few remaining souls of Israel, being eight,) saying he or she must die a bodily death, IS as the chaff AFTER the harvest, yea, clouds without water; scribes and Pharisees foaming out THEIR OWN shame which is all unrighteousness, without faith, BEING DEAD, walking in darkness while speaking corruption. For VERILY I say unto YOU: IT IS WRITTEN IN THE HOLY SCRIPTURES, and SPOKEN, of GOD: Follow me; and let THE DEAD BURY THEIR DEAD. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him SHOULD NOT PERISH, but have EVERLASTING LIFE. This is the will of him that sent me, that every one which sees the Son, and BELIEVES on him, may have EVERLASTING LIFE: and I will raise him up at the last day. GOD IS not the GOD of the dead, but of the LIVING. For the living know that they (they, being interpreted, are the wicked, being dead while preaching death,) shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Except those days should be shortened, there should no FLESH be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. THIS mortal MUST put on immortality. Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leads to destruction, and MANY THERE BE which go in thereat: Because strait IS the gate, and narrow IS the way, which leads unto life, and FEW there BE that find it.

The wages of sin may be physical death but unfortunately the "dead" end up in the lake of fire of all eternity.

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Rev 20:14-15 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

This is why we must be "born again" Jesus himself told Nicodemus you must be born again as we are dead in our trespass and sin.

John 3-5

3Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

The wages of sin is death ,not hell .Death is our punishment for our sinfullness .Death .Just death .

Goodmorning ,The cross reference verse I have for colossians 3:18 is Ephesians 5:22. Hope that helps.

Chris: Then is what they do sinning? I am troubled for decades now in even seeing idols around the altar, (though I worship these not) and selective verses of Gospel that seeks to 'not offend'; is the RC Church condemning themselves? It's far more than myself. My wife and I raised our children in this faith, all of my family is in this faith. Many of my friends as well. And I think the issue I have in wrestling with this is, who is errorless? And if who as in individuals, then what church? Even, True Believers under a Gospel following pastor that are called to assembly to exhort one another, now follow a man who believes he has license & authority to write his interpretation of God's Word and in doing so transform Christ The Living Word into potentially something else. I am sure that a Repentant Believer in Jesus Christ with Christ's Righteousness over them still will err in the flesh. Aside from Jesus Christ our Lord, who can be perfect in the flesh. And if who as in individuals, then what church? Thanks for listening.

Proverbs 21:23 KJ21 also GNB

Whoso guards his mouth and his tongue keeps himself ...

KJV: "Who so keepeth his mouth and his tongue keepeth his soul from trouble.

GNB: "If u want 2 sta ouOf trb, b CarFul ot u sa." [pic]

GNB: "If you want to stay out of trouble, be careful what you say." (See picture on page 713.)