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If writing to the U.S. is a problem then try first at the Bible Society Office in the Philippines (there are several: Manila, Cebu City, etc.) & state your need & interest to learn more about God & willingness to accept a second-hand Bible. You can get more information on their website: bible dot org dot ph There is also a Gideons office in your country.

In Isaiah 43:28, God is saying that the princes of the sanctuary (i.e. the priests who served God in the Tabernacle) who were considered special, set apart for God's service, would also suffer the same fate as the people (i.e. they would be profaned or treated with contempt rather than being honoured for their special position).

Another rendering of "given Jacob to the curse & Israel to reproaches", speaks of Jacob (Israel) given to destruction in their respective captivities to Babylon & Assyria & that in their captivities they would be scorned & held in contempt by the inhabitants of those lands. It was a very bleak outlook for Judah & Israel, but was a necessary punishment because of the many sins they committed & even at times, falling down to worship idols. They did suffer badly, but did they learn their lesson? Man has the eternal compulsion to follow after the world & not obey the God Who loves & cares for him.

Yes, the 1611 KJV was the original version as authorized by King James. So it's written with the old English spellings of the time (in the days of Geoffrey Chaucer & the Canterbury Tales era) & maybe some other slight grammatical changes. The KJV we have now is exactly the same as the 1611 version, but with the more modern spellings. But even this has now become little difficult for the 'younger set' to read. Then I would suggest the New King James Version or another related accurate rendering: the New American Standard.

If you want to try reading from the 1611 version, then click on More on the top Tab on this Site & scroll down to it.

You can read about Moses in the Book of Exodus. He was first a shepherd, but God had called him to be the one to lead His people (the Israelites) out of Egypt, who were in bondage/slaves to Pharaoh, king of Egypt. Moses gave all sorts of excuses why he shouldn't be the one for the job, even that he was a 'stutterer' (one of slow speech/tongue) so couldn't express himself clearly to Pharaoh. So even here God appointed Moses' brother, Aaron, to do the speaking.

Anthony, this is an exciting Book to read, so will not write more & let you read about the mighty Hand of God at work on the behalf of His people. And the same God Who works mightily on our behalf, to those who call upon His Name.

You will get different views on this, whether pets (or, even animals in general) go to Heaven or not. There's no Scripture to support either view - it just comes down to an opinion based on one's understanding of God's creation & His Plan for all it. Also, one can be so enamoured with one's pet, that the thought is, 'surely God can't deny such a loving faithful animal a place in Heaven'. Maybe this is just wishful thinking.

If we looked at any Scripture which reveals the beings & activity in Heaven (then & now), all we see is God's Presence & the Heavenly Host which comprise the living beings around Him. And then in the Book of the Revelation we see more, as in the Elders & those saints robed in white. We never see animals (or, their souls) in Heaven, nor do we read about them as having any part in a resurrection, to which only humans who accountable to God, have.

And then we could try to understand the purpose of the creation of plants & animals. Again, views may be many on this, but I just see all these as God's Plan to beautify the Earth (for His Sake & ours) with the things & creatures that will enjoy life & point man's heart back to his Creator. Of course, both plants & animals serve as sacrifice & food for our existence as well. So, in short, my view is that animals are not in Heaven, only those who have been created for Heaven & those appointed to salvation & eternal life.

Bahss, what other 'books' are you thinking of referring to, to learn more of God? Have you read any of those books, such as the Quran, Bhagavad Gita, Tripitaka, Adi Granth, etc.? Or are you thinking of the Deuterocanonical Books (or the Apocrypha)?

Of the former group of books I mentioned, even though God is mentioned, also man's shortcomings, a means of salvation, & a future existence, I wonder what you would gain from them given that in each one of the doctrines mentioned, the view of Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism & Sikhism is not only different from the Judeo-Christian teaching & understanding, but also in opposition to it. If you could first study those religions, how they were formed, their teachers/teaching, & the end of their faith, you might just at that point discover how far removed they are from biblical teaching.

In respect to the Apocrypha, again they were generally written in those silent years of the Bible & into the period after Christ. And these were not included in the Canon of Scripture because of their doubtful authorship, origins, declared 'truths' or even verses that are in opposition to accepted Writ. What we have in the Bible (NT) are from authors that are known & have been in direct contact with the Lord Jesus & given that bases, any other Scripture, whether from the Apocrypha or from other religions, must be approached cautiously or even totally rejected, lest our own understanding of God's Word is polluted with error. Not everyone has that ability to identify errors - he must know the Bible very well first. I do see value in the Apocrypha but one would never see me refer to them to support or exegete what is given to us in the Bible.

And yes, God did choose Israel to be the recipients of His Word & Law, to the exclusion of all other tribes & peoples in the world. What we have now is indeed God's Word & that Word was brought into the World in Jesus, Who then taught His disciples, who would teach others also, including us today.

I carry 71 years, and have loved this chapter since I read the Bible at the end of childhood, looking for answers to questions I could not even ask yet. Answers did not come from reading but from life, even as this chapter seems written from human experience. I have been through all the changes of pride it describes, and have observed what remains when pride is eroded.

I say it differently to myself. In verse 10, I substitute the word "complete" for the word "perfect", for it is complete reality that I have come to look for. In verse 12, I sometimes substitute "mirror" for the word "glass".

And at the end, I add my own thought,

"And the foe of charity is fear".

Man had long ago gotten away from the word of God is if the Bible is true why did they leave out the book of enoch and the dead sea scrolls and the forgotten books of Eden

Lovely inspiring words, adding to the richness of the Psalm. Thank you very much for sharing that, Steven.

So true. He did indeed: the Word of God Who became the Lamb of God.

please pray Kristie , pray she has the Lord gives her the strength and courage to do what she must do

I see it as a Prophecy that Abraham made, that God would provide His self as a sacrifice.

Great song brother Steven. Praised be the Lord for ever and ever!

You distorted what he said, just like what the media does. Hope that wasn't intentional.

Can I get prayer for the radio station for music and listeners for the station? Christian Indie Radio

Moses also killed an Egyptian. All these GREAT men chosen of God have committed sin. Yet God chose them. Paul the apostle of the Gentiles persecuted the Church of God before Christ came to him. ALL sin can be forgiven if left to the Sacrifice of Our Lord and Master Jesus Christ who only can forgive sin. He is God and will not deny Himself. He means what He says and will not change His mind. He is NOT like us . He is the God that cannot lie.

That does not mean people can go on killing and committing all kinds of sin. There will be suffering for all of us who believe in Christ. Because we sin all the time. We cannot keep the law.

Jesus said, "if you hate your brother you have already committed murder in your heart." and "If you look at a woman to lust after her, you have committed adultery in your heart." The law only points out the sin and convicts us of it. It cannot save us. "My Grace is sufficient .." God says.

The bible I.E. the scriptures are the only writings which testify of the Messiah and how man should believe in God and what man should believe spiritually, that you can take to the bank.

I do agree that God's forgiveness shown to us goes beyond human comprehension, but I fail to see how God forgives when a 'Christian' spurns His Love & Grace afforded him, by living a life of sin - even in the matter before us, on divorce & re-marriage. I even suggested that such a person needs to have a good look at his 'Christian' life & testimony & discern whether he's been living a life of deception to himself & others all the while. When that 'Christian' finally comes to the place of real contrition for his sins (in humility & brokenness), yes, there is a place of repentance, though much damage has been done to several parties which can't be undone & he will have to live with it.

And I suppose "the one thing that a person can commit that cannot be forgiven even by God" would ultimately be a full rejection of His Love shown through the giving of Himself through His Son. But this opportunity is open till one's last breath, though some mistakenly believe that they take that chance & do so successfully.

"If you care about having committed the unforgivable sin, you probably haven't."

I at one point in my life when I was a young man thought I may have committed this sin. I sought scriptures on it , I sought people to explain to me what it actually was. I was in a phycological hell for a time. Until I read a piece on what the unpardonable sin really was. The man who wrote said what I just quoted. The unpardonable sin, he said, was total disregard for the things of God especially if one knows the will of God and has rejected all. Then you die in your sin without the saving Grace that is called the Gift of God. ( Ephesians 2:8)

If you CARE about having done such a thing points to want to repent . And sorrow that one may have committed it. The person who does not care will not have such a conviction. Because the Unpardonable sin is ignoring the Love of God and the conscience is seared. Faith cannot be restored by such an individual.

Is there scripture that affirms pets do not go to Heaven?

Thank you Dianne. I did say that murder, indeed all sin, consigns us to hell as deserved punishment. But when we come to the place of contrition for our sins, even for murder, there remains a place of forgiveness for us.

With King David, he recognized his grave error & repented; generally Psalm 51 is understood as that prayer, also Psalm 32 may also be associated with it. But when one, in his great distress commits suicide, where then is the place of repentance? I'm of the belief that we only have this life to make amends before God, through His Son - after death (or, suicide), there remains no further opportunity. However, I did qualify my thoughts by saying that even in this matter, God is still the Omniscient Judge as He knows much more about the suicide event that will always be beyond human knowledge & judgement.

Who was moses?

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Alexis i agree with your comment . kenneth the bible says: in romans 3:23 for everyone has sinned,we all fall short of god's glorious standard.'

want to learn more about the four horseman

Is the 1611translation earlier than the KJ version we have now?

I do not understand verse 28. what was Jacobs curse and the princes of the sanctuary.

are they the priest, pastors

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HOW ARE YOU FOLLOWING JESUS

Read about "the Spiritual Man" by Watchman Nee: its weighty, but thoroughly explains the inner workings of the flesh, our souls and the spirit (which is made alive) upon being born again and sealed by the Holy Spirit.

The Godhead is made up of 3 distinct persons. We are born of flesh and soul. When we receive Jesus as Savior and Lord, our spirits are made alive to God.

The Holy Spirit tells us about Jesus. In chapters 16-17

That's why it's paramount to build up our inner most selves on reading the Bible. Why not begin reading in the New Testament?

I did a study just in the Gospels about the dynamics between Jesus, the Father, the Holy Spirit; the Apostles; and you can see how the Body of Christ is to operate as a unit; one Body.

The Old Testament can be accessed to see the prophesies that have been fulfilled, or the few that are being fulfilled now.

We are to be involved in EQUIPPING the Saints of God for the Lord to have available; disciples to work in this End Time Harvest.

We are to be His Body that sees, hears, teaches and preaches what we have learned; TO THOSE THAT ARE PERISHING !

Has anybody memorized the link out on the Red Section that has the Link: How TO Become A Christian??

Where is The Spirit of John the Baptist? Calling people to repent and be born again?

Do you know enough to lead them in a prayer for salvation? Point them to a Church that possesses the pure milk of the Word? 1 Peter2:2

1 Corinthians Chapter 3

1 And I, brethren, could NOT speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.

2 I have fed you with MILK and not with MEAT: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it; NEITHER NOW are ye able.

3 For ye are yet CARNAL: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

John 4:34

JESUS saith unto them, My MEAT is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work

Hi Charls,

As Christian, start your prayer by confessing your sins to God, and repent. Bow down to bring honor, praises, and glory to God - our Lord Jesus. Then, cast out evil spirit, evil thoughts in Jesus' name!!! And proceed to Psalms 23.

Try Psalms 23:4 Context

1(A Psalm of David.) The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. 2He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. 3He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake. 4Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. 5Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. 6Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.