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Please bless my family with wealth and prosperity please pray for my strength to overcome sin most importantly lust please pray that my family can have a closer relationship with good and please pray for my health and prosperity I want to be remembered and blessed in my academics and athletic career thank you for anyone who prays for me!

Please pray for my evil addictions

AMEN

Please pray for my marriage. My wife thinks I'm unfaithful but I haven't been unfaithful. I love her and need her in my life

A conversation based on predestination and election and determining if "we're special".

Today; in the midst of competing a discussion on Psalm 2; somehow I made a fleeting statement on how I believed in Predestination (maybe related to those who perish in Revelation who take the mark of the Beast). In any event; along with a disagreement I had with one lady who is the most vocal at this Bible Study and who is a diehard Catholic she stated that we shouldn't consider ourselves "special" related to what she considered a misguided opinion that indeed I was called and chosen (her issue was that Christ died for everyone).

Of course; even a diehard Calvanist will be the first to tell you that we aren't picked because we have any value-it is simply God's grace. My point is now that we are saved and know it; how do we define this blessing now; and in the future when He exalts us in heaven? Being His adopted children now certainly is "special"; even though as Paul said he was treated as the scum of the world ( 1 Cor. 4:13). Jesus; of course whose visage was marred more than any man for our sake on the way to the cross ( Isaiah 52:14) was uniquely loved by the Father and has a singular exaltation as Creator above all of creation as He should.

As His children we are called to be different from the world and part of His Body (see John 17:15-21). We are to be "salt and light" ( Matthew 5:13-16) and His sheep hear His voice ( John 10:27-28). What draws all men to Himself ( John 12:32) started with His Resurrection; but I would argue continues with the Spirit of God convicting men that lives within His church. To not have the power of sin and the fear of damnation as a reality is something which no one apart from His children can experience.

We should stand out; not as arrogant but as truly blessed; which comes of course from our character as well as our reverence for His Word and instructions of living; prayer and sanctification. John 15:18 shows the world hates us.

Hi Bennymkje.

Thanks for responding but no thanks.

Bennymkje I never have read your post besides that one I questioned you about. for a short exchange.

After that only the ones directly pulled from my email.

So sorry for the delayed response.

I'm sorry but I don't believe in nothing you stated.

Aa I said before it is nearly impossible for us to come to any agreement considering the way you handle scripture.

This will be the last reply of yours I read being that you have more insults than Scriptural knowledge.

I will continue on with my posting on Israel and hermeneutics.

I'd that upsets you you might want to bypass them.

I have been on and off this topic for years and many here can vouch for that.

God bless.

Hey Bennymkje,

Thanks for your reply, we have different understandings, you use the everlasting covenant and say there is only one. What I see that there is only one of them is God's eternal plan that existed before the foundation of the world. We do agree the Old Testament pointed to Jesus, John 5:39.

Thanks, no need to reply.

God bless,

RLW

Elfienda,

Black people descending Ham was a lie foisted about the US civil war period. The imposter church was not even interpreting literally but spreading into the bloodstream of White evangelicals there, an outright lie. "And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren." Ham has nothing to do with color. The same color as Noah. Egyptians are black and the curse has nothing to do with color. Noah curses Canaan representing Egypt as Nimrod representing Assyrian king list. Egypt is interchangeable with Sodom, Israel, (Re.11:8) The fall of Babylon is a label for the destruction of nations. Re.18:21. Mystery of Babylon is a label for the apostasy of Israel (Re.17).

The other things I have covered in the earlier posts. To repeat the same is rather inappropriate. If you want to possess truth you have to do your own reading and not children of Belial read it for you.

Hi RLW,

There is only one covenant which is entered between eternal God and Man who is the eternal word made flesh. For this reason he stands in the breach for mankind as Man. In short there is the covenant entered by God and Man where all who have heard the calling and received him is 'adopted'. Seth stepping into the breach of Abel is one reason. The left out church stepping into the breach of Israel in Re.7, the 144,000 is valid at the end times.

In between the covenant between Noah and God is pendent on the everlasting covenant. The Spirit makes it clear by the usage, "And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh."(Ge.9:15). Law of Moses similarly relates to the Israel. Their case was most desperate since he well knew they were hard-necked and stubborn.So He commands Ezekiel, "And he said unto me, Son of man, I send thee to the children of Israel, to a rebellious nation that hath rebelled against me: they and their fathers have transgressed against me, even unto this very day."(Ez.2:3) So he was to convey whether they received his word or not. Ezekiel is son of man,- the usage tells that he stood as a stand-in for his Son. It is thus God sets generations in direct context of Jesus. Noah is a double for him so is Elijah, Elias etc.,.

Law of Moses pointed to the fulfillment of Law,- Jesus Christ. So the law for the rebellious nation was somewhat of a manual of instruction ment for a boot-camp.

Hey Bennymkje,

I hope you don't mind me asking you, not to debate, but there is more than one everlasting covenant in the Bible, some are nonconditional, and some that are conditional. In your posts, you write "the everlasting covenant" as there is just one. Could you expound on when you use "the everlasting covenant" as it seems you are referring to one everlasting covenant?

Thank you.

RLW

I'm asking for strong protection, intervention and breakthrough for us and all in need. Also, A. is acting out (Lord please reign her in and please may she finally be delivered and saved). M. and K. need healing. I'm asking for a new job. Also, D's mom and V. need help with painful things (the Lord knows).

Please pray for me in the passing of our daughter Derrick Wiltz and Melinda Whitfield. We lost a leader and christian and someone caught up in the system due to our poverty and health. We will miss her ever so dearly. Pray the curses off our life that we have lived that's set in and on the three of us, not waiting on God and acknowledging him and not having Godly counseling and teachings.

I'm not sure I understand what's going on since that is not how I interpreted the passage.

Deuteronomy 32:8 is part of the Song of Moses, correct?

'When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the

people according to the number of the children of Israel.'

It continues in verse 9:

'For the LORD'S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.'

I understood this passage to mean that God divided the entire human race into 12 distinct groups and that each of the 12 groups had a guardian angel and that Jacob's offspring were looked after by god himself or that this specifically the "inheritance" referred to Jesus.

The reason why I interpreted the scripture like this is because we know that in Genesis 10, it describes the distribution of people according to Noah's three sons. Ham, Shem and Japheth. Until the creation of the modern anthropological races, it was generally understood that Ham was the ancestor of black people, Shem was the ancestor of Asians and Japheth was the ancestor of white people due to the original populations of the locations mentioned.

Returning to Deuteronomy 32:8 this would indicate (to me) that each set of people descended from Noah's sons were subdivided into 4 more ethnic groups. So the Israelites would be a specific subset of Shemites.

The number 12 is quite important in the bible. Jesus had 12 disciples. The number 12 is used in the planning of the new Jerusalem in Revelation 21, for example there are twelve gates with twelve angels with the names of each of the twelve tribes of Israel written on them, verse 12, there are 12 fountains, verse 14, the city is adorned with 12 types of precious stone, verse 19-20 and the gates are made of twelve pearls, verse 21.

I don't see any evidence for your suggestion.

"Sons of Adam" (De.32:8)

"When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel."

According to the everlasting covenant God makes a distinction between sons of Adam and sons of last Adam. one is earthy and the other is heavenly. Inheritance of saints in light refers to Last Adam as a memorial. The four beasts commemorate the glory of Divine power and wisdom.

Israel lacking in wisdom remained in outer darkness since their eye of faith was never exercised. Literal hermeneutics would require historical context and we have just that. "Therefore when they were gathered together, Pilate said unto them, Whom will ye that I release unto you? Barabbas, or Jesus which is called Christ?" (Matt.27:17,26) They chose Barabbas over Jesus because he was one of them. Meaning of the word "Son of the Father" Adam is son of God.( Luke 3:38). The Spirit is meticulous about events, names of people and places. Similarly we have another name that fits in the church age so we shall consider the Acts of the Apostles."But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith./Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him./And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord? (Ac.13:8-12). We see the sons of Adam even in our times. Divine healing as a money spinning circus is done by those who have literally explained way to hell for those who have no stomach for holiness of God. Bar-Jesus was all for cultivating political connection, the deputy of the country, Sergius Paulus as we see in our times. They all belong to outer darkness and are sons of Adam. Their inheritance are however "according to the children of Israel"

Blessedness of Man- inheritance (2 of 2)

The glory of saints in light is same as the glory of the Son. "I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do./And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was." ( John 17:4-5). The new name tells it all. 'To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receivethit."(Re.2:17)

Another aspect of their inheritance in Trinity. He was created "in our image and after our likeness." We already covered Body and Spirit and Soul is signified by the Lamb who was worthy to break open the book with seven seals. The body the church is female, the Bride while Christ is the Head. Soul of individual saint represents his kinship to the head. The everlasting covenant explains the Son "Male and female created he them".

Glory of Power and Wisdom is the soul aspect of Trinity so How does the Spirit explain the mercy of God? "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts." (Is.59:9-12) The rationale behind parables, similies and allegories, the entire gamut of narrative mode the Spirit uses is to give glory so soul of man is nourished thereby. Ps.1 compares soul of man as the tree planted by the water. The Tree touches heaven and rooted from the earth. Jesus was like a tender plant ,"and as a root out of a dry ground." The covenant specifies that it was good. (Ge.1:11-12). Soul has to be good if man is planted by God. "Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up." Jesus said this to the Jews. (Matt.15:13)

Some people at my job at Electrolux have lied on me and caused my job to be lost. I am here -home- without a job because they said that I was discharged from my most recent work because I allegedly failed to comply with

management's instructions. The manager was not there. This is not true. I complied with the leader's request. Please pray that the truth will come out to the light, job loss reversed, back pay received, restoral of my employment, and that I handle this situation with righteousness and dignity. It has been a month since the incident.

Name is Rick please need prayer for mercy and protection justice over toxicity at work it's so bad sad to see thank you and God bless you

Please pray for my beloved husband Jerry for healing and that all of the seizures would be gone. He injured his neck a few years ago and it got more sore as time went by to where he started to have migraines and photosensitivity. In all the things we have done for his neck, his atlas now seems a lot more stable and the pain has significantly decreased. But just in these last couple days, started to have something like partial seizures in response to bright light and things quickly moving in bright light, and something like absent seizures. We found that when his atlas started staying in place, his neck developed a curve at the C3 vertebrae, and the occiputs and C3 vertebrae get locked up. We suspect that this is very likely the cause of the partial and absent seizures. Please pray for him! Thank you!!!!!

Blessedness of Man- inheritance (1 of 2)

"The counsel of the Lord standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations./ Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord; and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance."(Ps.33:11-12) This explains the essentials of the everlasting covenant.

What is the counsel of the Lord? It is the divine Will, which is a mystery"(Ep.1:9-13) and St Paul refers "That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:/ In whom also we have obtained an inheritance."God first trusted in the Man so his glory was his and as the Apostle says 'In whom ye also trusted," This chapter ought to be studied closely in order to understand the nature of our inheritance ("and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,"-v.18) and it fulfills all the seven days drawn in the covenant.

The counsel of the Father gives us inheritance in the light. 'Let there be light' He commanded and there was light. God "The Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:/Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son," has shown us what is his Son. He is upon where his heart is. So we have the heart compared to the apple of his eye. "For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye." (Ze.2:5) Israel in rejecting the Son is not part of the covenant. Coming to the key text, "the thoughts of his heart to all generations./ Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord; and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance," the Spirit is referring to the saints in light. God has chosen them.

Their glory is same as the glory of the Son. John 17:4-5; A new name tells it all. Re.2:17

Please pray for me and my two daughters and their families

Everlasting covenant-blessedness (2 of 2)

"In the beginning of this post we had this statement: "Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he."( Pr. 29:18). The law of God is the Word forever settled in heaven. (Ps.119:89)." So when God sent his Son his deity signified the everlasting covenant. We were blessed in the man. The error of mistaking the law in the above-mentioned quote for the law of Moses is as mistaking the last Adam which is a memorial in heaven for Adam who was expelled from the Garden. Sons of Adam are under condemnation while who are in Christ Jesus are free from blame. (Ro.8:1)

Hermeneutics sounds scholarly and interpreting the Bible without considering the everlasting covenant is bible scholarship in bad faith. In order to put this in historical context let us consider Evangelicals all for Trump. Their faith we can trace in the controversies over Darwinism vs. Creationism. They read seven days in the opening chapters as literal seven days. They saw the Angel of light and took it for real. "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."( 2Co.11:4)Literal approach did not let them see the difference, This lie is still perpetuated. So the same state as Israel was in the eyes of Isaiah. "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness." (Is.5:20) So criminals are champions for imposter church. Historically 'woe unto ye" that Isaiah used in Ch.5 foreshadows the woe to ye in Matt.23.

Blessedness of Man is in wholly following the Lord as Caleb did. So Ps.1 instructs us, "Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful./But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night."

Without holding the everlasting covenant as the ground zero instruction from the scripture is merely eyewash. (2 Ti.3:16)

Everlasting covenant:blessedness (1 of 2)

"Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord; and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance."(Ps.33:12). Further down we read that for this reason he made their hearts alike. It means that each one is given same quality. " From the place of his habitation he looketh upon all the inhabitants of the earth./ He fashioneth their hearts alike; he considereth all their works." What does that signify. Jesus said, "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: for every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened." (Matt.7:7-8) There is no ifs and buts but truth. For this reason you do not need teachers but the same Spirit that has given you the Bible. You ask with believing and God shall open your eyes. So your vision concerns your eye of faith. "Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he."( Pr. 29:18). The law of God is the Word forever settled in heaven. (Ps.119:89)

So nations that have rejected God has lost their vision.

How come Israel is now accused of genocide? For that how the US is roiled by criminality of their POTUS? These nations have had their good old days and when they seem to say as Isaiah say 'woe unto them'. "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!/ Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!"(Is.5:20-21). So man prides of being a sober genius and spins a false narrative to gloss over hs criminal conduct. Nations that believe in lies above moderation and equity are on their way out. Blessedness of wholly following God they have rejected. For them there is no hope unless they truly repent and come back to the lord. "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection:"(Re.20:6a)

Dear God,

I pray that you would fill me with the Holy ghost in a mighty way. I want All of you. Take my life, and totally consume me with fresh Holy Ghost Fire I surrender my life to you now. All I have is yours. In Jesus Name,

AMEN.

Heavenly Father, I pray You meet all of Lisa and her families' needs. God bless you, Lisa.

Thank You Father God, Thank You Jesus Christ and Thank You Holy Spirit. Amen

Heavenly Father, I pray You lead her to firm believers in You. Father God, bless Karma with reading, understanding and increased knowledge in Your Word. God bless you Karma.

Thank You Heavenly Father, Thank You Jesus Christ and Thank You Holy Spirit.

Onesimus, I agree with Stella. I'm praying for you. Read His Word and pray. Jesus loves you. God bless you. Amen

Lord, thank you the blessings, protection, health and strength. I pray my family safety, my work i believe all of it is belongs to you. and i ask forgiveness fir all sins i had done i believe you died on the cross for our sins and you arose after 3 days. Thank you Lord and i prayed in jesus name. Amen

I pray my family and our future i know God he his my provider and teacher .

God supply all i need. I qsk forgivenes for all sins has done.

Lord plp

Hi Ecalarese.

As promised I would like to continue our discussion on unequally yoked with unbelievers and we "the church" being separated from the world.

We've touched on 2 Corinthians 6:14-15

When we read further down in this chapter we come to verses 17 and 18 it reads "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Paul is telling us to separate ourselves from the world, but to some degree Paul is only telling us what the Spirit of God has already done.

We are Unequally yoked with unbelievers in this world where lifestyles and morrows clash! Darkness and light cannot coexist.

A believer baptized with Christ spirit has a new nature that combats the old nature.

Not just outward sin but we now think different.

Listen to Paul again talking to the Corinthians in 1 Corinthians 2:14-16.

"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Also, John 15:18-21.

Notice verse 21? "But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, BECAUSE THEY KNOW NOT HIM THAT SENT ME.

When the Holyspirit causes us to follow Christ and His teachings we're at odds with the world.

We have "separate" fathers.

God and Satan!

Satan has his ministers also. Look at Paul in his day. 2 Corinthians 11:13-15

Satan appeals to the flesh and worldly wisdom.

One thing they can't do is bare fruit! Matthew 7:15-18.

They despise truth and hate the Brothern.

See 1 John 3:10-15.

Perhaps more later on a separate thread.

God bless you.

Hi Spenser,

You write: "The most important law of biblical hermeneutics is that the Bible should be interpreted literally. We are to understand the Bible in its normal or plain meaning," Where did you learn that from, I wonder.

Unless it is given from above a man cannot benefit from God a Spirit. You seem to fit with the description of Isaiah " But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken./ Wherefore hear the word of the Lord, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem." (Is.28:13-14). Blind leading the blind is a risky business. Jesus calls them, "Woe unto you, ye blind guides." Why Israel fell off? " Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!/ Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!."(Is.5:20-21)

Hi again Gideon.

I would like to expound a little more on your statement saying, "you know how to get saved and it's hard for you because you're scared and nervous about it"

Here's why I asked you for clarity on that statement..

There's some hold to a legalistic viewpoint when coming to God for salvation.

In the Old testament Israel was given the Law and commandments the showed them and the world "Including us" we all have a fallen nature and is need of a savior.

As did the Israelites in the old testament they feared approaching God under that ministry of condemnation.

However, to them and us God provided a savior, our Lord Jesus Christ!

There is no need to fear, we have found mercy in Christ.

Ephesians 2:4-9.

We can now approach the throne of grace and there is no need of fear!

Hebrews 10:19-23 states, "Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,

By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

And having an high priest over the house of God;

Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)

Romans 10:9 states "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

We confess that are a sinner, turn our hearts to God for his grace and mercy and he is faithful to forgive us.

"All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out"

John 6:37.

God bless you Gideon.