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Dear brother Chris,

Thank you for your Godly wisdom and comment. I now have a better understanding and agree with you. I will send your comments to brother Joshua also at YT. I am sure he will appreciate your comments also. I love and pray for ALL who have believed in Jesus and ask God daily to put each of us to work on the front lines and fields white unto harvest each day we have left on earth. We all must help and pray for each other daily. James

Comments by Alex about the Words of our Lord. Addressed to Bill, We cannot make void the Words of our lord Bill by using scriptures that are out of context with what our lord said. Remember our Lord said John baptised you with water but i will baptise you with the H.G. AND FIRE and our God is a consuming fire that is gona consume our old adamic nature . The FLESH And Jesus also said i come to bring FIRE on the earth impling on man which is symbolic of the earth ,the 1st man was of the earth earthly as our God is a consuming fire . Our Flesh is our carnal mind which is in rank with Satan . Thats what is gona be consumed. Remember it was the foreskin ( the flesh ) only that was cast into the fire. The FLESH IS OUR HEARTS thats y he wants to give us a new heart and a new spirit, its the result of his Words which are his Seeds that are gona be sown in our hearts . Bill you are not understanding what JESUS said Every sinner will have their part in the lake of fire, not a maybe but a must simply b/c every man carries the stain and the spot of adam no exceptions thus every man will be baptised with the FIRE of the H.G. and it cannot be negated no matter how religious you are. or how BIG A CHURCH YOU ATTEND. Shame on you bill trying to negate the words of our lord . That lake of fire is for every body , there is not anybody too good for the lake of fire. Our God is a consuming fire but our God is also LOVE. If ya can hear it his wraft is simply his LOVE for humanity . Whom the lord loveth he chasens meaning his baptism of the H.G AND FIRE BUT ITS A GOOD FIRE SIMPLY B/C ITS HIS LOVE .God so loved the world etc. Bill you asked if any souls are lost for eternity and the answer is all adamic natures which are in rank with Satan are lost for ever.its only satan and his angels that are gona be lost for Eternity, Ya remember it was only the forskin that was cast into the fire lost for ever but not the man made in the image of God. ok lemme go.....love ya Bill gbu

Andrew, "The idea of an eternal soul is not Biblical. "- Not so. "Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation." John 5:28&29 Every soul has an eternal destination.

"But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: and have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust."Acts24:14&15 Paul has an expectation/hope, as he understood the law and prophets, to teach also. An eternal state for all souls IS biblical.

Sadly, No. Her heart was still there in Sodom, in spite of the wickedness of that city. She might have physically turned around, but her heart was already on the way back to be at her home, with her people & her friends. But if you're thinking whether her spirit would still be saved in the day of reckoning, that remains in God's domain of judgement. It would be like the coming time of Great Tribulation, a Day of God's Wrath on disobedient mankind: the chance to escape will not be the passion of most, preferring the desire of the flesh & of life itself, rather than desiring the salvation of God.

You're right Brandon, I could do everything possible for my son to be like me in character, spiritual awareness & direction in life & even if I succeeded, he would still always be my son, a separate human being in his own right.

But one cannot hold to such thinking of God, compelling Him to replicate or be confined to the limitations & humanness of our minds & ways. He is the One from Whom it was written that He could create out of stones, children unto Abraham ( Luke 3:8). If we think in human terms, then yes, Jesus is only a (created) Son of God. If we abide by the Scriptures, then Jesus Who is the Image of the Invisible God, is more than a 'spittin image' of the Father - He has the very Image, Character, Essence of God's Holiness & Being, of the Father, having proceeded from Him. And that is why John 1:1-14 becomes a very difficult passage for non-trinitarians, because they can never give another explanation to it, as its declaration is abundantly clear: the Word that came from God became flesh. And apart from Jesus, I don't think that those verses could apply to any other.

please pray for Kristie and myself today please pray the walls that separate us be removed please pray we are reunited

The patron Saint is a big hello to everyone. The word PATRON and Host are synonymns which you think nothing of anymore at all. Everyone is pretending to be JESUS or not understanding everything fully. There have been a lot of people called to ISRAEL right now and that is only 1 part of a multi-part progression of Faith.

Reminds me of the New Testament where the Lord had to return 300 years later and that points obviously as the Lord being pre-1AD and obviously James is a name for who is meantioned, more than once..... and it is not because of the name of the Version.. it is a translation and James is obviously nothing in the Story of Christ to you, but the Patron Saint is the Same, even for the JEWS.

You are in for a big plot twist. There has always been this significant translation. Even in the Torah....

Zechariah 8:2 Context

1Again the word of the LORD of hosts came to me, saying, 2Thus saith the LORD of hosts; I was jealous for Zion with great jealousy, and I was jealous for her with great fury.

What version are you following???

Solomon wrote all of Genesis you know.

Appears the Jewish prophecy of Solomon has been fulfilled and the directions followed. There are 2 churches involved in this and the treaty of Nicea adds more. The Jewish people remember were not all in favor of Jesus and the fulfillment of the scriptures all come to a head at this place we are in time and this is not the first time. Look back to many religions over time and it is not about being right or wrong when many recognize the LORD and that to be JESUS while others contest the name and remember, he has gone by many names throughout the milennia.

Mark 4 .24

One of the most influential verses spoken by Jesus if you are searching for the truth or correct interpretation of the scriptures.

I found it that way a number of times when seeking truth .

Your intensity in listening with out bias or preconceived ideas when reading the Bible , Gods word gets louder than all other views or interpretations. It's up to you to give ear to what Gods word is saying , your future depends on it .

The only remedy for indoctrination that is so damning .

I certainly will do, Curtis. The Lord is well able to minister His Help & Blessing even when we can't see clearly the road ahead. Our faith is the trigger for His action & outcome. I hope your son is also trusting the Lord for his need, or if not, then you are able to be beside him to guide & counsel him in this very important lifelong decision. And that all will proceed well for your wife & that in good time, she will be able to have dentures that will fit & work well for her. Often, some of the greatest help one can receive from us, is just to be there for those in pain & to share that burden with them. When it's borne all by oneself, then it may become unbearable, so your presence, your words of comfort & assurance & your prayers will be for their joy & healing. The Lord help you too as you share the load of your loved ones.

Yes,lot's wife was not saved was she?

Do you have a son Chris ?

If you trained him up well , he would be just as you are , yet not you . You are head over your son and always will be .

Do we live a blessed life ?

Psalm 1 shows us how it's done . And not done .

Dear Cathy,

A Christian is a Christ follower. That's the literal definition. It's not a one time event, but an active lifestyle. To follow someone is an action. The opposite of that is to not follow or to do nothing. God won't force anyone to be with Him in heaven- He gave everyone freewill to choose for themselves what their priority is. In the New Testament, Jesus spoke a lot of parables about how most people will go to hell and few people will be saved (narrow is the gate). He gave a lot of warnings to people including his followers to avoid sin and keep His commandments. If someone wants to spend eternity and be in heaven this isn't something to be taken lightly. Sin is no joke.

This life is nothing compared to eternity and people often treat this life like it's everything, like they want power, money, status and that will 'make them happy'. Even though this has been known for countless years people still pursue it. The Bible says such pursuits are worthless. We should invest our treasures in heaven, not on earth. We are to be a light to the world in love and through our actions, not follow the world in sin.

While genuine Christians are imperfect and sinners and saved by grace, that doesn't mean we should not genuinely try to follow Jesus and obey His commandments. There are lots of verses I could quote in support of this, but these are easily found in reading through the Bible. Romans explains this in greater detail, as does James, etc. God bless.

I actually took the time to listen to that lengthy teaching on the Pre-Trib Rapture deception. He spoke very well & covered a lot of ground, but failed to be more explicit in certain areas that the pre-tribbers would also hold to.

a. The Great Tribulation is a special event in history when it is God's Wrath that is poured upon the world of unbelievers. The tribulations that come to us, whether coping with life's demands & challenges or going through various intensities of persecution & to the laying down our lives for the Lord, are not part of God's Wrath, but what comes to us living in a fallen corrupt world ruled by the prince of this World. And on this aspect the YT speaker dwells on. One would need to look at the fact that a believer who has already been freed from the God's condemnation through Christ, would he then have to face His Wrath for his & the world's 'wickedness'?

b. 1 Corinthians 15:51,52 which ties in with 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 is taken as a separate event to the Day of the Lord not because of the specific events of the dead rising along with the saints to be with the Lord forever, but also what Paul was saying was a Mystery: something unknown or veiled beforehand, being revealed now. Just as the mystery of the Church ( Romans 11:25, Ephesians 5:32, 6:19, Colossians 1:27), so the mystery of the catching away that was not unknown before. The speaker never referred to this important point.

c. The escape of Lot & his family or of Noah & his from the pouring out of God's Wrath was not dealt particularly well by him. He emphasized that they escaped but the unbelievers were destroyed whereas in the Gt. Tribulation, it would not be so, therefore the analogy failed. However, I think that the emphasis is seen to be on the fact that God took out the righteous from the scene of His outpouring Anger.

These being a few of my observations from his talk, & though quite comprehensive & he being well studied, I remain unconvinced from his presentation.

The Son may not be God the Father, but He has all the attributes of the Father, which makes Him intrinsically & indivisibly part of the Godhead. After all, if the Word of God (that which proceeds from the Mouth of God), was given flesh (humanity), then it stands to reason that this Humanity (now called Jesus, God's Son) comes directly from the Godhead.

God could have done the same with His Spirit within Him, but the requirement for His Word that went out to His people (the Jews) by the prophets ( Hebrews 1:1,2), would now not only have God speaking directly to them rather than the prophets which they generally rejected, but that Word would even lay down His Life for them. And for this, Israel remains condemned by God for rejecting Him (i.e. the Father & Son).

Not one of us are sin free or, I guess pure, as some of you say. Do people who go to church every week and try to live a life with lots of church, Bible reading, studies, without drugs or alcohol believe that living this way, asking God for forgiveness, and being baptized makes you pure? Do you believe you will be we welcome in Heaven by the Lord over someone who doesn't go to church, has sex without marriage, uses & addicted to drugs, someone such as myself? It seems to be the belief by lots of religions is why I'm asking. One of you made a comment seeming to insinuate this as well. Ty

I ask for prayers to guide me in my faith. I am having great difficulty when I sit down and begin to read my Bible. When I do so, it seems to me like there are evil beings making vile comments to distract me from the word. I've learned more about the Bible and Jesus' days on Earth over the past few months than I have in my 32yrs. I've been really intrigued and get pretty excited when I do learn something new. It hasn't been an easy road walking in my faith because of this. But I continue and push through it and I by no means will give up.

I also ask for prayers for my family as they seem to be going through a difficult time at the moment. I pray for strength and wellness both physically, mentally, and spiritually,

I believe there is a psalm, not sure, but it's something to the effect of this, "I heard your prayers all along, I never did not hear you, I answer prayers in my time, not yours"

Does this sound right? Any psalms to that effect or where could find it? Tyvm

Our Salvation is paid for us through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ on the cross, and all we need to do is repent, and believe, (Faith) and live a Godly life, knowing that when we fail, and we all do, we need to ask for forgiveness in prayer on a daily basis, and also give thanks for all the blessing we also receive on a daily basis.

In Galatians, chapter 5 Paul explains the fruits of the flesh and the fruits of the Spirit, I pray this helps,

1 John 1:7 "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin."

1 John Chapter 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, [even] our faith.

Galatians 5:16 "This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh."

17; "For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would."

Galatians 5:22 "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,"

Galatians 5:23 "Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law."

Genesis 25:1 I've sometimes wondered why the concubine Keturah had to come into the picture here. Abraham had questioned whether he could father a child at 100 years of age ( Genesis 17:17) and he is about 140 by this time. Isaac, his true heir and the son of promise, was at least 40 and had married Rebekah to insure the continuation of the lineage. And one of these sons of Keturah, Midian (verse 2) was presumably the father of the Midianites, who caused Israel so much grief later on ( Judges 6)

I thank you and glory to God he is faithful and more real than anything I can see!id like if you could pray for my son that God would send him a suitable mate..he had to quit school in 8th grade for social anxiety disorder so the few he meats are definitely unevenly yolked as God says we should be!for good reason?but these two are so lonely there willing to put up with worldly attitudes and ways as opposed to loneliness!also people I indirectly know that have Cancer and my wife on Friday getting many teeth removed not only will be painful but be hard on self esteem!God says when two or more are gathered in my name there shall I be!so I ask your help through our lord ?in Gods Love Curtis and I pray for your ministry in these times right from hell!God blessCurtis

The genealogy of Shem (Noah's son) is being recorded here amongst others; it divides between the sons of Eber: Peleg & Joktan. And from Peleg the genealogy goes on to Abraham. So a part of Shem's descendants end in Babylon & the other with Abraham.

Therefore two lines of humanity diverge at this point: those who wanted to make a name for themselves and those to whom God would make a name, with the call of Abraham. Joktan's line went eastward where the Tower of Babel was built.

So I understand 1 Chronicles 1:19 & Genesis 10:25 (similar accounts) to show that the "earth's division (in those days)" was because of the forced separation (or division) because of the Lord's confusing of their common language which bonded all the families/tribes to stay together. And this was not God's intention, which required their separation from each other (Genesis chap 11).

Some might look at that verse as describing the separating of the land into various land masses & nations, but I don't follow that line of thinking in this instance.

Another correction. the name of the one was Peleg; because in his days the earth was divided:

Correcting myself. The name of the one was Pelegrn; because in his days the earth was divided: Again, anyone know what is meant here? Thanks.

Thank you Jack. I appreciated that clear explanation - sounds very plausible as minor textual (copyist) errors have been noted from time to time. Of course, these don't in any way take away from the veracity of Scripture, but it bears remembering that such small inconsistencies can appear, as in any writing/publication, that shouldn't warrant our complete rejection of the whole.