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In Exodus 10:1,2 we read: "And the LORD said unto Moses, Go in unto Pharaoh: for I have hardened his heart, and the heart of his servants, that I might shew these my signs before him: And that thou mayest tell in the ears of thy son, and of thy son's son, what things I have wrought in Egypt, and my signs which I have done among them; that ye may know how that I am the LORD."

So in these verses, we are given two reasons why the Lord did what He did to Pharaoh & before Moses. To Pharaoh, that God might show to him that He is indeed the only God of the Universe & that there is none beside him or like him. The Pharaoh was more than just a king in Egypt, he was considered a god or representing the gods. That is why he was so defiant against the True God & even had his sorcerers duplicate many of the miracles that Moses did in God's Power. The Pharaoh took a while to learn this important lesson, but in the end he did - he must have been a humbled, broken man.

And to Moses: that his witness to the Power of the God he served might be told to his fellow Israelites, so that they too may learn to fear & be obedient to the One Who loved them & had their lives in His Hands. As well, to proclaim this news to their succeeding generations. For this reason, the Jews even today commemorate this great deliverance from the clutches of Pharaoh, by celebrating the Feast of the Passover, Exodus chapter 12. This was when the Lord would pass by those houses that had the blood applied to the doorposts of their dwellings but those that didn't do so, would experience the death of their firstborn, whether a person or animal. The Jews faithfully remember this great event & praise God for their deliverance, but to have Christ's blood applied to the 'doorposts' of their hearts, they will refuse. It's so sad that they fail to see the significance of that first deliverance & apply it to their present predicament & God's offer of salvation from death's grip.

please keep me in your prayers today thank you and May GOD bless

Were planets called stars back when Jesus was born? As in the Bible in

Amos 5 :26 AMP

You carried along your king Sikkuth and Kayyun [your man-made gods of Saturn], your images of your star-god which you made for yourselves [but you brought Me none of the appointed sacrifices].

Recieved and noted with thanks, bless you, thanks for the encouragement and your words of wisdom inspired by God.

If you have refused to accept Jesus's invitation to be born again ( John 3)

And you are Left Behind on earth, after the Rapture of millions/billions of believers

No one knows how rapidly the Beast will set up the Economic takeover of all institutions using money, currency. It will come by force. The Antichrist is revealed after the Rapture. There is also a False Prophet who will set up a One World Religion. All nations will get on board with it.

A Police State will be formed. There are testimonies from workers that have already witnessed guillotines in warehouses. Not on national news. A one world system of money will be formed. Meanwhile there will be assurances from the Antichrist that everyone will be taken care of. Food will be barely enough, water too. Look how disrupted ALL nations are now with this CoronaVirus plague. People aren't all working; businesses closed, bankrupt; schools barely limping along. Children who have not blasphemed Jesus Christ will be raptured; all infants, toddlers, handicapped. Why? People in the Bible ate their children in famines.

And then 1/2 way through the 7 years, the Antichrist will turn from solving problems to become a mass murderer in ALL nations. All banking is ended. You will have to take His Mark (666) in your forehead or hand. You will have to Worship him; become a traitor to those who refuse to get the Mark. You can't trust anyone. Rioters will invade homes to get food, water or gasoline. An asteroid named Wormwood will hit the earth and climate will change to winter. Water will be poisoned, all fish will die. Earthquakes, volcanoes, tsunamis & more will occur. There will be hailstones big as cars. Animals will attack humans for food. Read Revelation & minor prophets! Try to get informed! Read some Hal Lindsey books NOW!

Why go through this? Look for the BECOME A BELIEVER link on this website. Block Print it and Tell others before it's too late. Depend on JESUS. He is your ONLY safe place.

Paul's letter to the Philippians was written by Paul (considered one of his letters he wrote while imprisoned in Rome). He wrote it to the Church in Philippi, which he founded during his second missionary journey. Philippi was a small city, founded by King Philip of Macedonia (father of Alexander the Great). The residents were called Philippians. The other city close to Philippi was Thessalonica, which was the second city that Paul preached to during that journey. And so we read of Paul's other two letters to that Church also. Both Philippi & Thessalonica were in Macedonia (if you want to see it on a map, then it would be located just north of Greece).

All the four Gospels give some narrative about Jesus' baptism by John.

Matthew chapter 3; Mark chapter 1; Luke chapter 3; and John chapter 1.

1 Thessalonians 5:23: "And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ."

As the Apostle Paul believed & is indeed the case, we are a type of trinity, without any one aspect of our make-up, we cease to be the creation that God made. The 'body' part is easy: we see it & most people give very little thought to any other aspect of our being. Yet, God has given it to us so that the 'real' parts of us can be 'housed' & that both the visible & invisible parts of us are accountable to God, unlike some who believe that we can do whatever we like with & through our bodies.

Genesis 2:7: "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

Even though the word 'soul' can be used almost interchangeably with 'spirit', I think we should understand it as "the life of a person". And in that 'life' we also have our faculties, emotions, reasoning powers, etc.

However, I see that the 'spirit' given to man is quite different. Proverbs 20:27, "The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly (heart)." God gives both man & animals a spirit. In man, God can minister or speak to us. So one might be 'spiritually alive' which means, being receptive to God/to spiritual things, ( 1 Corinthians 2:9-11). Or one is 'spiritually dead', having no spiritual discernment or is so hindered by Satan, that he no longer is moved by God. Of what sort the spirit in animals is, I don't know, except for what Ecclesiastes 3:21 tells us.

But when we die, our spirits return to the Lord ( Ecclesiastes 12:7): we are not only accountable to God for our lives, but also we are indestructible, or the body can be destroyed but the spirit lives on, whether with God or with Satan.

Xaviar, thank you for your input. So I understand, that you believe in two creations by God, though God refers to & expands on only His second creation of Adam & Eve & their descendants through Noah, to us.

You asked, "is it necessary for God to reveal himself to them as he did to the Eve and Edam." This then raises other questions in my mind & which requires more deeper thought & so I bring them to you for consideration:

a. Can this God of Love Who created mankind for Himself, then not demonstrate that Love to all of mankind, even to this 'other' creation? If He did show Love to them, would He not declare it in His Word, or should it be kept hidden from us? The Bible speaks of people of many different lands, but to omit this 'other' creation when they may be living on the same Earth as us seems peculiar & worrying.

b. Can we then assume that either this 'other' creation remained sinless or they too sinned & God didn't bother about them? If they were sinless, the Great Flood would not have affected them as the Flood was God's Judgement against wicked people. So they would have continued had descendants & today we have a set of people who might be walking around us who are sinless.

But, if they too sinned as Adam did (i.e. Satan had gone to them also), then why did not God bother to try & redeem them also to Himself, just as Jesus did for us sinners? And if Jesus' Sacrifice did apply to them also, why was this important fact kept hidden from us? And then who would have gone to them to bring them the Gospel? Or, did Jesus have to die twice, for us & them? My questions would go on & on, but I stop here.

After the rapture of the church will those left behind have an opportunity for salvation? If any take the mark of the beast they will suffer God's wrath... does this mean if you don't take the mark you have an opportunity to be saved from hell?

Wheat is the forbidden fruit itself. It is the herb of the field. We will eat it in the sweat of our face because it causes Celiac Disease and a host of other autoimmune problems. Men were the hunters, woman the gatherers. Woman were the first to gather the seeds of wheat and then make bread which was then offered to the men. So it was. No one to blame. In sorry most continue to eat it all the days of their life, never realizing the cause of their intestinal demise. Hippocrates said, "all disease begins in the gut" and "let food be thy medicine." The hunters had it right.

Eat meat, not wheat! They next chapter, the story of Cain and Abel will tell you the same. This was our fall from grace.

2 Corinthians 5:6

Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

2 Corinthians 5:8

We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be PRESENT with the Lord.

2 Corinthians 5:9

Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.

Colossians 2:5

For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.

Michael:

When an unbeliever in our Savior Jesus Christ, dies physically: the body resides wherever loved ones buried it, or where it fell dead. The soul separates from it and is kept in a holding place until the Great White Throne Judgment occurs.

Christians that die; their physical bodies lay in a grave or wherever they died: and await the Shout of Jesus at the moment of the Rapture. Jesus will transform them into the resurrection body: body, soul, spirit.

[In the Old Testament, the place of the dead or the place of departed souls was called "SHEOL." It was to this place that all souls of the dead went to await resurrection.

In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades ( Luke 16:19-31). The KJV translates the Greek word "hades" as hell but most other translations use the Greek word. HADES had two separated parts: Those who died in faith believing in God's promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham's Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in ABRAHAMS BOSOM which was called "PARADISE" by the LORD Jesus Christ himself when He addressed the thief who found faith the day Jesus was crucified ( Luke 23:42-43) ]

Now that you know these things; what are you going to do about Jesus?

Matt.24, Luke 21

2 Corinthians 5:6

Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

2 Corinthians 5:8

We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be PRESENT with the Lord.

2 Corinthians 5:9

Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.

Colossians 2:5

For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.

Michael:

When an unbeliever in our Savior Jesus Christ, dies physically: the body resides wherever loved ones buried it, or where it fell dead. The soul separates from it and is kept in a holding place until the Great White Throne Judgment occurs.

Christians that die; their physical bodies lay in a grave or wherever they died: and await the Shout of Jesus at the moment of the Rapture. Jesus will transform them into the resurrection body: body, soul, spirit.

[In the Old Testament, the place of the dead or the place of departed souls was called "SHEOL." It was to this place that all souls of the dead went to await resurrection.

In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades ( Luke 16:19-31). The KJV translates the Greek word "hades" as hell but most other translations use the Greek word. HADES had two separated parts: Those who died in faith believing in God's promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham's Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in ABRAHAMS BOSOM which was called "PARADISE" by the LORD Jesus Christ himself when He addressed the thief who found faith the day Jesus was crucified ( Luke 23:42-43) ]

Now that you know these things; what are you going to do about Jesus?

Matt.24, Luke 21

Wasn't Jesus baptized by John the Baptist? If so, would you please give me the Bible verse(s) that explain it?

There is no evidence to a specific instruction God placed to the people he created, such as He proposed to Eve an Edam about the tree of live. However, it is only evident that only one instruction that the second creation of people supposed to followed is not to Harm Cane by looking at the sign on the forehead he placed. Because they have not been given special treatment, they lived freely out there. God's relationship with people is obvious in the sense that he created them to look after them. God revealed himself to them in a very special way. God created the people with and amongst the animals-similar to the manner God created the animals he crated the second set of human being and he looked after the animals and human being in the similar manner. The question is that, is it necessary for God to reveal himself to them as he did to the Eve and Edam.

The question about the grate flood has series of question attached to it such questions as: does the flood occur in a specific area or the entire world that could affect everything?

Opinion to justify human understanding would be contrary to what God has already designed and placed.

When there are some deviance such as ( Genesis 1, Genesis 2, Genesis 4: 13-14, Genesis 3: 23-24) to justify the two set creation and existence of people and exit out of Garden of Eden to a different sent of environment are words of the Lord in the Bible.

The lady was probably referring to the (true) story of the rich man & Lazarus, found in Luke 16:19-31. Here we find that both the rich man & the poor beggar Lazarus had died & were both found in Hades (Hell), though there was a gulf (a separation) between them. Presumably, the part in which the rich man was placed, was a place of torment & the other part where Lazarus was in, was free of pain & torment. And we also note that Abraham was here too. So even when their dead bodies were on Earth, they were still recognizable in the after-life.

Apart from this account, we have little else to support a full & proper teaching of the after-life, as it existed before Jesus gave His Life for us on the Cross. I couldn't be certain of that part of Hades - though my sense is that it was not in Heaven but in the lower parts of the Earth. But post crucifixion & resurrection of Jesus, the righteous would have been taken away to Heaven based on their faith looking forward to their sin's payment by Jesus.

In this regard, the Apostle Paul said in 2 Corinthians 5:6-8, "Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord...We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord." This tells me that Paul believed & expected that after his death, his next view would be of his Lord & Saviour being carried into His Presence. And Paul was familiar with Heaven, the sights there & the words he heard, having been given such a vision that he felt constrained to remain quiet about it: 2 Corinthians 12:1-5.

So at the Rapture of the saints, we understand that their remains on Earth will be raised up from death to life & reconnected with their spirits at Christ's return for them & as also the living believers. That's my understanding; there will be other beliefs by others.

Dear ron, I hope I could answer you question as well.

When reading Genesis 1 Carefully, it basically talks about the creation of everything out side of Garden of Eden starting from Day 1 to the 6th day. This creation includes the creation of man and women, plants and animals, as well as other creation that give detail in verse 1 and to 30. However, Genesis 2 give account of the creation of Eve and Edam, Garden of Edan, rivers and the trees and plants in it.

Therefore, let us see things this way: there are two sets of creation-a creation in a small world and a creation in a big world.

The first set of creation include human being that was not created by God using his hands as they evolved when God commend and they lived outside of the small world everywhere that is evident in, ( Genesis 4: 13-14).

Eve and Edam came form the second sets of creation and where bound to live within the smaller world which is the Garden of Eden. However, due to their disobedience, they have been forced out-Out where? Out to the big world. They being cast out ( Genesis 3: 23-24) is an evident of second set of creation that they begin to experience and lived with. Because they have been forced out to the big world, Cane fear that people would slay him-Cane fear of people is an evident to some people being created and are already present. God's account of his care and protection also accounted for second creation and evident of human being everywhere as well, ( Genesis 4: 13-14).

Therefore, there are two sets of creations: The first set evolved through God's command and lived everywhere. The second set was the specific creations that God created God lived with them, however due to disobedience they were forced out but still protect them and lived with them.

In Acts 9:3 it says he came near Damascus when the light from heaven shone round about him, so how far was he from Damascus, a short distance or a longer distance, or how he got to Ananias in Damascus, we don't know, I don't believe any of that matters, as the real message of Acts 9 is the conversion of Saul the persecutor of the church to Paul the apostle of the church, Paul states this in 1 Corinthians 15:9 "For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God."

Also, when the Lord spoke to Ananias in a vision, Ananias answered about all the evil that Saul had done in Jerusalem, but the Lord's reply was in Acts 9:15 "But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:"

I know that this doesn't clarify your question but I pray that this helps.

What is the Dream that you saw?

John 17:25-26, from Jesus Christ, states it better. Instead of using the word "seen".

Why did the Lord harden Pharaoh's heart. So the Lord made him not want to let the Israelites go ??

When letting the world take you into its darkness and have the devil keep you captive to it, it is noted that there was a reason why Jesus Christ came on the cross to die for our sins to then be buried, and RISE AGAIN on the third day. Just make sure you tell him the gospel written in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 (KJV). You don't have to force it upon him, but by the grace of God you can give it to him and let God change his ways through his powerful grace.

1 Corinthians 15:1-4

"[1] Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; [2] By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. [3] For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; [4] And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Here we are at Christmas time again. I struggle with Christmas, as I do Easter. I find it very hard to accept either holiday and believing that God is happy with "Christians" as many support these holidays, which have roots to pagan gods. Please reply based on God's Word. Thank you.

Amen, Thanks both of you.

It's good to have the mind set of you wanting to growing in a relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Corinthians 15:1-4

" [1] Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; [2] By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. [3] For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; [4] And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

When you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for dying on the cross for our sins, was buried, then ROSE AGAIN on the third day

This is what scripture says about when you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ...

Romans 10:10-13

" [10] For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. [11] For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. [12] For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. [13] For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

May the grace our the Lord Jesus Christ be with you and your family

Brenthren, please pray for me for wisdom of counsel and creativity

there is a lot of evil in my home an in my marriage please pray for us.

Who or what is Philippians?

Song of Solomon 1:5-6 King James Version (KJV)

5 I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

6 Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me.

**** 1 Kings 11

King Solomon, however, loved many foreign women besides Pharaoh's daughter--Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians and Hittites.

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They were from nations about which the LORD had told the Israelites, "You must not intermarry with them, because they will surely turn your hearts after their gods." Nevertheless, Solomon held fast to them in love.

3

He had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines, and his wives led him astray.

4

As Solomon grew old, his wives turned his heart after other gods, and his heart was not fully devoted to the LORD his God, as the heart of David his father had been.

5

He followed Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians, and Molech: the detestable god of the Ammonites.

6

So Solomon did evil in the eyes of the LORD; he did not follow the LORD completely, as David his father had done.

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On a hill east of Jerusalem, Solomon built a high place for Chemosh the detestable god of Moab, and for Molech the detestable god of the Ammonites.

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He did the same for all his foreign wives, who burned incense and offered sacrifices to their gods.

9

The LORD became angry with Solomon because his heart had turned away from the LORD, the God of Israel, who had appeared to him twice.

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Although he had forbidden Solomon to follow other gods, Solomon did not keep the LORD's command.

Mishael: Later, God did tear the kingdom from Solomon. YOU can google Solomon and his 300 wives and 700 concubines as easily as me.

However, only what is recorded in scripture is what we recognize to be trustworthy and true: God's Word=Jesus Christ.

We have to harmonize what is recorded in the Books of Samuel, Kings and Chronicles; to get the whole picture of what was going on.

Steve, I think we've broached this matter before in our discussions. Whilst I believe in the complete Unity of God & that God is One, but from Him, we are taught from the Scriptures, proceed the Word & the Spirit. Though the original comment by Roy was one of 'fatherhood', I believe that the Word sent from God to become Man, expresses God's Fatherhood to His Son Jesus Christ. However, since the Unity of God has never been broken, the Son even at the Father's right Hand, remains wholly within the Unity of God & the full expression of His Person.

Of Jesus in the OT is written: Isaiah 9:6, Psalm 45:6,7 (cf Hebrews 1:8), Psalm 110:1, Daniel 7:13,14.

In the NT: John 1:1-14, Philippians 2:5-8, Titus 2:13 (cf John 20:28), 1 John 5:20 & many more.

So I don't believe it was the RCC or the Nicene Council that introduced the understanding of the Godhead, but what we see & learn from the Scriptures. But to say that Jesus is presently the Almighty God, without the presence of the Father in Heaven is wrong, as other Scriptures attest to it. The apostles & early Church believed in the deity of Christ & so we take it from there & hold onto it, even though our human understanding is limited & weak to understand the personality of God & His revelation to us.