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Genesis 1:29

"And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."

Reading this verse makes me think that the tree of knowledge of good and evil did not bear seed.

Verse 16 says not to pray for a sin that leads to death, I heard 2 different pastors say that this is when a christian keeps habitually sins and so God takes him/her out of this world to save their soul, such as the husband and wife who knowingly held back money after they sold property. So if the punishment for this sin is going to heaven, why should anyone fear it? Also is this another way to show that you cannot lose salvation once you are saved? Now I talked with a 3rd pastor who disagrees with that, he says John was speaking to Gnostic's who were living immoral lives with excuse that all flesh was evil and it led to spiritual death because it was unrepentant and continual sin and no one gets to heaven living like that. So 2 different explanations.

I remembered this and I read it weeks and weeks ago

What does the Bible say about "ENDURANCE " and how many times is that Word used in the Scriptures?

What is Faith? Faith is doing what you know is true in Jesus Christ our Savior. To go after the impossible and search out new ways to accomplish the impossible thru His Blood to your Holy Father who watches and hears all our impossible prayers in Faith to come true. Never getting our mind off what we want or need. Healing is always close if you never give up believing in God's Strength and words. Always forcing on the impossible of it happening and making it happen for others even though you your self are suffering in a Illness. KEEP GOD'S STRENGTH...FOCUS ON HIS WORD....Nothing is impossible for those who believe. And keep the Faith!!!..........AMEN.....Keep the FAITH!!!

Please keep me in your prayers today, May GOD bless you all

The Bible tells us that we're all sinners & come short of God's Glory (God's perfection) Romans 3:23. And not one of us are righteous - not even one ( Romans 3:10). When we sin against a Holy God, the only payment we can make for our sin is to suffer death (physical death & eternal separation from God) Romans 6:23.

And this was to happen after our first parents, Adam & Eve, sinned against God. But God, in His great Love for mankind, His creation, stepped in with a solution to this sin problem. God can't overlook sin because sin is not from Him but from Satan. And since one way to make payment for sin was for the death of the sinner, the other way, which God planned, was for a substitute to take the place of the sinner. But that substitute had to be pure & perfect, which sinful man could not be (that means man cannot pay for his own sin). The only Substitute that would work for God was to send Jesus, His Son, to make the payment. However, that time was long coming as God had a purpose for withholding Him, so God instituted an animal sacrificial system for His people, Israel, as a temporary measure: so that they would acknowledge their sins & the need to pay for it through sacrifice.

Since that sacrifice was only temporary, at the right time, God sent Jesus to Earth to ultimately give up His Life for us sinners. But every sinner has to accept that offering & put their trust in Him ( John 3:16). So now there is no need for anymore sacrifices as Jesus was the Perfect & only One sent by God. So Jesus' shed Blood & broken Body was necessary to satisfy God for our sins & so we say that "our sins have been remitted" (our sins have been forgiven & removed & we're no longer accounted by God as being punishable ( Romans 3:23-25)); just like a judge on Earth declares a convicted person as no longer guilty & he is free to go. But just as the prisoner still has to pay for any crime he commits later, so a Christian who sins in error is accountable to God & seeks His forgiveness.

Andrea has indeed received a correct reply from Mishael on Spiritual Warfare; demons are the cause of many problems. For many years I was always curious about how the devil works. Yet I was wise enough not to play around with it. Several things influenced my mind and made me much wise. The devil is not to be played around with. In the end he will get the best of us. About 27 years ago I was so tired of being a christian that was filled with doubts. So finally after listening many times on tape to a Salvation Army preacher stop a song right in the middle and then quote a bible verse that I decided to use that verse and challenge God. Yes challenge , because I believe God can not lie. The bible verse was Jeramiah 33.3 "CALL ON ME AND I WILL ANSWER THEE AND SHOW THEE GREAT THINGS THOU KNOWEST NOT" God answered after 6 months. Led me to a Church that has the most truth. Now thru a correct study of daniel and Revelation I see clearly. All doubts are taken away. However to further increase my knowledge I bought a book for $20 and the man who wrote the book can also be watched freely on youtube. This book describes a man who was starting to dance with the devil but God intervening and thru bible study the man was saved . The book is ; A TRIP INTO THE SUPERNATURAL BY ROGER MORNEU. Another great book , not so much a trip into the supernatural but amazing just the same was written by a German Officer during ww2 . Amazing how God protected both him and his wife/children who were at home.

A Thousand Shall Fall: The Electrifying Story of a Soldier and His Family Who Dared to Practice Their Faith in Hitler's Germany.

It is Honourable for women to show respect to their husbands. This is a law of Christ. The man is the Head of the family as Christ is the Head of the church.

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4. We are called to a perseverance that faces a future promise. ( 2 Timothy 2:11-13).

This future promise was what motivated Paul. This is one of the last letters he ever writes before his martyrdom. He's trying to convey this passion to his young son in the Faith, Timothy, who he knows will one day hear about his martyrdom. He is trying to instil in him, and us, the seriousness of the Christian life. He makes it clear that if we die with Christ, we will also live with Him. If we endure the difficulties here on earth, we ultimately will reign with Him. Paul is even aware of our weakness and the frailty of the flesh, for he says if we are faithless, God remains faithful because He has given His Promises to us. This might sound contradictory. What he is saying is that he knows soldiers get physically & emotionally weary in battle, that athletes get tired, that even the best of farmers sometimes get discouraged because of their circumstances. Paul is acknowledging that "God knows our frame. He remembers that we are dust." When our determination is to persevere and to keep on keeping on, yet if we falter in our efforts, He is there to carry us onto the finish line. If our faith is not always at its best, He still remains faithful because He cannot deny His promises to us.

This is what it is all about. It is not about us. It is about God and how God works through us, helping us in our determination to persevere: in transmitting our faith, persevering in difficult times, persevering in remembering what Jesus Christ has done for us and persevering in the face of God's future promise.

I hope you will find something useful here to share with others, to build them up in their faith & direction in life. Every blessing.

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Image 3 is that of the farmer.

Most of us are hardly aware of what it takes to be a farmer. Their only routine is to be out early & get home late, planting & harvesting, failed crops or poor irrigation, bad markets, pestilence & many more can easily dampen his enthusiasm. But the farmer who succeeds is the one who, in spite of the odds against him, perseveres in his work, without holiday, poor returns or arduous work, just so that he can overcome those odds, provide for his family & his country. A lazy farmer will soon starve or need to find another job. As the soldier before him has the thought of victory & getting home safely with his platoon; as the athlete is upheld by the vision of the winner's trophy; the farmer looks forward to the hope for a good harvest.

3. We are called to perseverance in memory of what Jesus Christ has done. ( 2 Timothy 2:8-10).

Our lives as followers of Jesus did not emerge out of a vacuum. They are based on what happened in history. We are urged to remember Jesus Christ, God in human form. He is the heart of the Gospel. He is the very essence of the Good News we have to share.

So when Paul sits in prison in Rome, thinking about his own personal sufferings, examining the chains which bind him and his martyrdom that is just around the corner, he declares that he can "endure everything." And he can endure everything, & does so, so that others may obtain the salvation which is in Jesus Christ. Paul too was qualified for a peaceful retirement. But he voluntarily "pressed on" (persevered & persisted) in Christ's service, determined to lead more people to that salvation which comes only from Jesus.

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Examples can be given: back in the late 1940s when China fell to the communists (Marxists), there were many Christians in China. Communism sought to destroy Christianity, killing many. Then from the end of the 70s, reports came that the Church in China had actually grown through the blood of the martyrs & perseverance of those who failed not to testify of Christ. Today, there are over 80 million Christians both in overground & underground Churches.

And then the life & ministry of Billy Graham should inspire us, as we see one who was faithful to the Lord, never shirking his calling, & persevering in his desire to see lost souls be won for Christ.

2. We are called to perseverance in difficult times. ( 2 Timothy 2:3-7).

Paul illustrates the nature of Christian discipleship during difficult times with three practical images.

Image 1 is the soldier.

A soldier is called to focused service. He lives a life set apart from normal civilian pursuits. He wears a uniform, lives in a barracks or a tent, deployed to whatever part of the world the govt. sends him. And it is a life that requires obedience. He must take orders regardless of whether those orders prove to be wise or unwise. If he loses his focus or fails to persevere, he puts his own life & those of his platoon at great risk. The Christian is also called to focused service and obedience to Jesus Christ. All of this involves the potential of sacrifice & certainly involves loyalty.

Image 2 is that of the athlete.

There is an athletic nature to the Christian life. This involves discipline in training, as with the soldier.

This also involves self-denial. We are called to stay in spiritual shape, shedding attitudes and actions that would get in the way of successfully completing life's difficult race. An athlete who doesn't persevere to attain the ultimate prize, will fail to do so & very miserably.

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This is what makes all the difference. You and I are called to perseverance, but not that lonely perseverance of one trying to "keep on keeping on" when 'keeping on' no longer makes any sense from a human perspective. This is a call to a life bathed in Christ's Grace, in which we are motivated by that which goes beyond ourselves to be all God would have us be as we persist, as we persevere as followers of Jesus, empowered by His Holy Spirit.

A life lived without perseverance is a life that tries to exist by mobilizing what natural talents one happens to have, forgetting that some of the most gifted people in the world are failures because they give up when the going gets tough. In fact, some of them have so much talent, genius and education that they never find their focus. Remember "the humble postage stamp and its ability to stick to one job until it's done!" We call that "stickability".

What our text is saying is that you and I are privileged to take all the gifts of God's grace, freely given to us, and, with faithfulness, persistence and perseverance, move forward, empowered by the Holy Spirit of God, to accomplish all that He desires for us.

We are called to persevere in four specific ways.

1. We are called to persevere in the transmission of the faith. ( 2 Timothy 2:1-2).

The reality is that the Christian church is always just one generation from extinction. We are called to be links in the chain that winds its way through human history from the first century Church until the return of Jesus Christ to take away His Church. Somebody was faithful to the Gospel by sharing it with us. We have to be faithful to pass it on to others & this faithfulness has in its meaning: that we must persevere in sharing this Good News as God gives us opportunity.

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I'm unsure how much by way of comments you seek, but I'll try to give you a brief outline to your subject, with an Intro. If you are the study leader, then you will have to add your own thoughts/questions to this outline. There are many Scriptures you can use as your focus to develop the study, but I've chosen 2 Timothy 2:4-5 as the main one, with other verses in the chapter contributing to the study.

2 Timothy 2:4-5: On Perseverance & Persistence.

"No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier. And if a man also strive for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive lawfully."

Webster's Dictionary defines perseverance as: "To persist in a state, enterprise, or undertaking in spite of counter-influences, opposition, or discouragement."

A synonym for the word perseverance is persistence.

It also defines persistence: "To take a stand, stand firm, to go on resolutely or stubbornly in spite of opposition, importunity, or warning.

Persistence is a close relative to Perseverance.

President Calvin Coolidge once said:

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence.

Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.

Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb.

Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts.

Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent.

The slogan "press on" has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."

Our text calls us to persistence, to perseverance, but it adds a dimension that protects you and me from falling into great discouragement when our own best efforts fall short. Paul writes to Timothy, "Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus." ( 2 Timothy 2:1).

your wife committed adultery, can you remarry her?

Ron, I agree with you completely: without the Holy Spirit's help, the Word of God is only a Book of Words & our preaching could be a just a display of oratory skills. In 1 Thessalonians 1:5 which you shared, Paul said that he gave them the Gospel not just in clear & concise teaching, but with, & in demonstration of, the Spirit's Power. So, it's all of God: the Word/Gospel shared, the power within it & in its delivery, & for the interpretation & conviction in the hearts of the hearers. We're merely the humble & weak tools in the Hands of God to bring forth such a wonderful, heart & life changing Message.

Christ's disciples, in their 'raw' state had not the Spirit of God, except when they were specially endued for service ( Luke 9:1). They had both the pure Word of God & His Spirit amongst them that radically altered their conceptions & misconceptions of God's requirements for them & the people. They then had the knowledge but minus the Power. What a time that would have been for them on the day of Pentecost. Both the hearer (when they heard messages in their languages as witness of the outpouring of the Spirit), & the apostles themselves (as they suddenly sensed the entrance of the Spirit to bring them brilliant Light & understanding into their hearts), would have had an experience 'of a lifetime' in that room. And the witness they had of the Lord & His Spirit not only empowered them, but emboldened them, to be His witnesses unto the laying down of their lives. Do we see, or can we see, such a display of Holy Ghost Power & conviction? It might not always be seen overtly but certainly seen in the believers' confidence & resolve to live for & serve the Living God.

why did Jesus shed his blood for us just to suffer and die

how many years did Jesus live and how many days did it take for him to rise from the dead

This verse is very inspiring to my life and has made a major impact on my life.

MYSTERY OF THE NEPHILIM REVEALED

Gen.6:4

Scriptural Facts:

1. Heavenly or Fallen Angels can not procreate according to biblical scripture. ( Matt. 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34)

2. There is no evidence from the dead sea scrolls on gen.6:4 that the Nephilim were the offspring of the sons of God and daughters of men.

3. The Nephilim were present before and after the sons of God and daughters of man had intercourse.

4. Sons of God could mean holy Angels or holy men according to scripture. ( Job 1:6; 2:1), ( Psalm 82:6, Hos. 1:10; John 10:34-38, Matt. 5:9; Luke 3:38; Rom. 8:14)

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Knowing these facts; we can rule out that the sons of God are angels in gen 6:4 because they procreate.

Therefore, they must be men that had God's favor(Seth's lineage). The daughters of man would be women without God's favor(Cain's lineage). Their offspring would be human.

What are these Nephilim?

Well, they can't be the offspring of the sons of God and daughters of man according to the facts stated above; because the nephilim were present when the sons of God lusted the daughters of man. How could the Nephilim be present when the sons of God first had sex with the daughters on man? Wouldn't they need to be born first?

The interpretation from a root word naphil of Nephilim means fallen ones.

Look at the similarities of seraphim and cherubim. Now look at Nephilim.

Seraphim and Cherubim are Holy Angels.

Doesn't it make since that the Nephilim would be Fallen angels?

The men of renown is another way of referring to famous biblical characters like Adam, seth, Enoch, and Noah.

How did the spies from moses know what the Nephilim looked like or were?

Stories told from generation to generation about them being frightening.

When the spies saw giant men, they were frightened and thought they were the Nephilim.

The Nephilim most likely tempted the sons of God and daughters of man.

The Nephilim were fallen Angels not human. Goliath was a man.

When I pray and read the Bible, I can sense God's presence very near me. I'm very thankful to have a God and Savior who loves each one of us and wants to have a close walk and relationship with us. Thank you for the opportunity to acknowledge God . I couldn't make it without Him. He is everything to me and my dearest and wisest Counselor.

S. B.

who were the doctors and teachers they were referring to in Luke 2:46?

That is what I said, but the other party said that this could have been what Eve tempted Adam with after being tempted by Satan. I said that the original sin was disobeying God and that He had told them not to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. I have searched the scriptures again and cannot find anything remotely pertaining to Satan tempting Eve in that manner. Thank you.

Hello, no, Eve didn't have relations with satan. That is nowhere in the Bible and is completely made up. This is a recent falsehood that's been circulating around and ironically it's another lie by satan. It's really sad that people are spreading fake news that doesn't come from the Bible, but comes from people wanting to deceive.

You sound broken and this is the first step to asking forgiveness. Ask Christ Jesus in humility and sorrow to cover this sin with His blood and He will forgive you and you must believe it is done. There is no condemnation with faith in Christ that He died and rose again to show us the path to a relationship with Him. Don't give a foothold to devils to keep throwing guilt at you. Repent, walk away from the past and do this sin no more. If it plagues you to not leave it, then ask Christ Jesus to send His Holy Spirit to help you to stay clear of it. So long as you are reading Gods Word & praying to Christ to use you for His Will, you will begin to live spiritually and nothing that happens on earth has any bearing on this focus of The Kingdom of God. And that is what a new creature in Christ focuses on. Bringing others to Christ so they too will be in Gods Kingdom. The Spiritual relationship with Christ is the answer to overcoming the sins in the flesh! God Bless You!

ty for the bible to read i read everyday but i like it only for pc i read on p tho but who ever i sent this to ty for the read of the lord jesues christ and u better answer my response

We are studying "The Power of Perseverance "

Are there any comments that address this subject?

In this sad account, we see that the prophet Samuel was already dead with his body in the grave at Ramah (v3) & King Saul was asking the Lord concerning the battle before him, since he was completely outnumbered by the enemy (the Philistines). King Saul had earlier decreed that the practice of wizardry, necromancy, etc. was forbidden, however, since God had chosen not to answer Saul's prayers about this battle, Saul, in subterfuge, turned to a woman who still quietly dabbled in witchcraft.

The woman was hesitant to do this because of the King's edict, but Saul, who was disguised, assured her that nothing would happen to her. This woman, as others who practised these 'arts', usually operated by using deceit, voice impersonations & other means to satisfy their enquirers. Sometimes of course, impersonating evil spirits would be roused up & make their presence known. But here in this account, the spirit & vision of dead Samuel had appeared to the woman, to which she took great fright because her 'art' was actually producing an actual real event, which was very unusual for her. I would understand that this was an exception to the rule: that God had allowed this to take place for Saul's sake. God had refused to speak to Saul earlier because of his sins, disobedience & hatred of David, but now chose to allow this 'word from Samuel' to cause him great despair.

This account reminds us of Jesus' story about the rich man & Lazarus ( Luke 16:19-31), where both the rich man & Lazarus were in hell (though Lazarus was in comfort & the other in torment). The rich man pleaded that Lazarus be sent back to Earth to warn his five brothers about the condition of their lives & not end up where he was, but Jesus said that his brothers had the Scriptures from God to warn them. So it implies that the spirit of Lazarus could have been sent to Earth to warn, but God chose not to. But in Saul's case, God had allowed this to happen & used it to foretell of Israel's defeat & Saul's death.

1st Thessalonians v 5

I read this morning and it said

We received the word in power and the Holy Spirit , not in word alone .

Not in those exact words .

But the thought is the Holy Spirit is all the difference .

Other wise it's just a mans religion as there are many .

We should have the power to do what Jesus commands and apostles teach .

Or is not genuine .

Make sure we are doers and not hearers only deceiving our selves.

Hebrews 9

27 And as it is appointed unto men ONCE TO DIE, but after this the judgment:

28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto THEM that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

> People that have passed on, are in their graves or were dispersed on the wind; hidden in deep waters. It is no problem for Jesus to fetch all of them during the Rapture.

The deceased Believers in Jesus will be

raised up first; and reunited with their born again resurrected spirits in the clouds; which are safe in heaven presently. In the blink of an eye. They will be complete in those resurrection bodies.

Their graves will be left open as a witness to those left behind on earth, that they are with God now.

Next, those born again Living believers will meet Jesus in the clouds and receive their resurrection bodies. Jesus will remove all the saints to heaven, to attend the Marriage Supper of the Bride of Christ (us) and the Bridegroom (Jesus). It's a celebration of our Covenant and future life together.

If we still have loved ones NOW that are procrastinating about escaping what is coming to the earth at that time...now is a perfect time to Evangelize them: get on your knees and pray for them every day. Break that spirit of procrastination, in Jesus Name! Ask the Lord to loose a sense of urgency into them.

All of this is in the New Testament and you need to begin reading chapters (plural) of Scripture to find them yourself so You Know what is going to happen next. Tell others who are perishing around you.

Everybody quit hoping another Billy Graham to be raised up to do it for us. It ain't happening! God wants us to do it. This is the generation of the Book of Daniel. It's us!!! Get over Bashfulness and open with an open statement: how about that Jesus Christ?! The Bible says he's coming back real soon!! Let's pray.

May the Holy Spirit dunk us in boldness!

Mishael