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Some words that I see, I run through THIS websites SEARCH BOX to see if the search engine has that word in it.

If the word your looking up doesn't fetch some scriptures, then it's not in the KJV. The website will ask if you want to google search? It will offer scriptures it thinks will help you find the word you are searching:

Similar but not the same.

Don't be afraid to search around and see what all this website can help you with in your studies.

The Commentaries are within the Search Box. Click/touch your scripture. It will turn yellow. Scroll downward and there you can read the Commentary by a scholar.

If you get "lost". Just back arrow out or go out and come back in again.

Mishael

How vocal should Christians be in condemning abortion? Is it wrong to support and vote for leaders who promote abortion? What can Christians to do be a light to the world on this issue?

I hear you Lou, and agree. I frequently pray with people in The Prayer Request Room.

Anyone is welcome to go in there and pray with the people. We're All called to do the work of an evangelist: which means to carry the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus to someone else; or share a testimony of how Jesus healed or blessed us.

If you go in there, check the THREAD button to see if they have been prayed with yet.

All born again Christians are going to be at the Bema Seat judgment with Christ Jesus. It is a time to receive rewards....or loss of rewards. This is when Christ followers will receive crowns, or not. Then we will cast our crowns at the feet of Jesus and rejoice with Him.

Mishael

Great post Lou! God Bless you brother.

I think he was just stunned to see Jesus walking towards him,

And hearing the Holy Spirit's confirmation in his spirit, that Jesus is the Lamb of God.

John the Baptist and Jesus were cousins.

Hello Larry,

Just to maybe help with your question of why some say Holy "Spirit" instead of Holy Ghost. As many of the versions of the Bible now say "Holy Spirit" instead of "Holy Ghost". Out of twenty nine versions it seems only four have kept "Ghost" for "Holy Ghost". To me it really makes no difference as the meaning of the word is basically the same. The original Greek word used is "pneuma". Transliterated from Greek. The definition of the word can be "a breadth of air or breeze" or "figuratively a spirit". The KJV Bible has this word "pneuma", in the New Testament, used 386 times. They use "Ghost" 92 times and "Spirit" 289 times. Used only a couple times for "wind". As most of the versions of the Bible have put "Spirit" in place of "Ghost".

Hopefully that helps a little bit on your question. Saying "Holy Ghost" or "Holy Spirit" is really the same. God Bless.

KJV Apocrypha

If you'll back arrow out to the red page where you came in, there's a link, so you can read the Apocrypha:

Books that didn't get canonized into the KJV

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

There are only 10 scriptures proving it:

Mishael

Hi Irenie, just search for a Bible including the Apocrypha. Most Bibles don't have it, because people generally don't believe they are God-inspired, but you can certainly find them with it. I think Jesus quoted the words from an apocrypha book so at minimum it's an important historical document.

I'm confused, if John the Baptist was Jesus' cousin, why didn't he recognize Jesus when he came to be baptised?

How can I obtain a bible that has missing books such as Esdras and others in the NIV and King James Version?

Thank you for your reply. The reason I ask is that in mark 2:22 says no one puts new wine in old bottles wasn't always wine skins? Also in luke 19:23 uses the word bank "Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury" Did they have banks when they translated 1611 kjv? Also in Isaiah 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, wasn't it always "the lion shall down with the lamb? And the our father prayer in Luke 11:2, now says "Our Father which art in heaven" wasn't it always "our father WHO art in heaven"? I have many more discrepancies.

What does 12:7 mean

The rapture doctrine is apart of the fables spoken of in this chapter , read the context .

2 Timothy 2 v 24 , 25 , 26

This are people that appose them selves and are teachable . I hardly thing false teachers fit this category.

You ppl that gag at three are gonna be sick when ya have to swollow a million as God ALMIGHTY SWORE by his very self that CHRIST is gonna be multiply as the Stars of heaven, Thats y Jesus is saying to whom the WORD that heavenly seed came it made them Gods plural and the scripture cannot be broken. Now unto Abraham and his seed was the PROMISE made but he says not unto seeds plural ( natural israel ) but unto 1 seed which is CHRIST , THE ISRAEL OF GOD, THUS ITS CHRIST THAT IS GONNA BE MULTIPLIED AS THE STARS OF HEAVEN. This cannot be refuted as it was God almighty that made this PROMISE,when he swore by himself. After Abraham offered up issac a type of Christ the Child of PROMISE. thats y Jesus is saying that which is born of the SPIRIT IS SPIRIT which is the birth of the H.G. GODS GRANSON. Which is the H.G. that is SPIRIT. The Israel of GOD. Remember it was ABRAHAM'S GRANSON JACOB whos NAME was changed to Israel impling the H.G the 3 rd person is the Israel of GOD. Remember it was Solomon the 3 rd person Jesse's Granson that God wanted to build the great Temple not david the son but SOLOMON th granson which means comforter th H.G. that is gonna build the temple in our bodies, abide in me and i in you, now its our bodies that is his Temple, but the H.G. is a greater then Solomon he builds a greater temple then Solomon with in us as that good seed THE SEED OF GOD is sown in our hearts. Initiating a birth of Christ/God in us. Thus do not gag at three as Christ as gona be multiplied as the Stars of Heaven.Abraham can you count the stars so shall thy seed be. which is the seed of CHRIST The words of God, the new covenant th book in the right hand of the father, I will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven .gbu

1 John 5:6-8

6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

Jesus Christ is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

1 John 5:7 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Isaiah 9:6

6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

John 1:1-18

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

1 John 5:6-8

6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

John 14:9-12

9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Please pray for me , I got has headache and my lower stomach is so painful. I want the lord and spirit to be with me through it all, am single mother of 1 and it's tough.

Have we noticed that, the commonality of those commenting and discussing God's Word here are from God's children. Children that think of God throughout their day in everything they do. Children who dwell upon God's word for guidance and security. children that seek understanding. This is a safe haven for us and I see God's Spirit in those that believe His Word. Yet, we need to do more to pray for others to answer God's knock at their door. How is it that all we hear on Social & Televised Media has nothing to do with God's Word? It may be best to leave these platforms behind, they neither build your character or assist in building the character of others who are longing to find this safe haven in God's Word in their lives. Heavenly Father: Give us your strength to assist you in your work on others in this world. Help us to put aside racial, financial & political difference which are of no use to the eternal characters of our souls that you build for us all to praise you throughout eternity. In Jesus name, Amen.

Revelation 19

Verse 8 and verse 14, Match.

Starting at verse 7, it is revealed WHO rides with the King of Kings, and Lord of Lords!!!



The chapter ends with the Beast and the false prophet being cast into the Lake of Fire.

Know what? I'm going to be there.

Alex comments on the Trinity,God wd not tell Moses his name was Abraham Issac and Jacob,which was father son and Granson if his Kingdom were not a trinity a family just like the Abrahamic trinity was a family that resulted in the nation of ISRAEL. Without this heavenly trinity there can NOT be an Israel of GOD, ITS SIMPLY FATHER SON AND GRANSON THAT IS GONNA BECOME THE ISRAEL OF GOD,thats y God told Moses that his name was Abraham Issac n Jacob,that is my name forever and my memorial to ALL GENERATIONS. the Abrahamic trinity was an exact profile of the heavenly trinity as God offered up his only son just as Abraham offered up his only son Issac. a 5 yr old can understand this father son and granson scenario, without it there can not be an Israel of God, Its GOD Almighty that wants a posterity and Christ was just his 1st born of many brethren,Thats y God swore by his VERY SELF when he made that Promise of multiplication MEANING THERE HAS TO BE AN ISRAEL OF GOD, God is gona be multiplied, thats y Jesus will go forth and sow his precious seed in humanity.The very fact that we have a FATHER AND A SON BEGS THE QUESTION OF A GRANSON and an Israel of God . The heavenly trinity is an exact profile of Abraham Issac and Jacob thats what Abraham means exaulted Father. The child of promise was issac but the Promise Child in the heavenly is the H.G. as Jesus refers to the H.G as the Promise of the Father And thats y the sower will go forth to sow his Precious seed in humanity that God might be multiplied in us sinners resulting in an Israel of God. The Abrahamic trinity was just the basics .As Abraham was multiplied as the sands of the seas, which is just prophetic that Christ is gonna be mulltipled as the STARS OF HEAVEN in mankind thats y he calls himself the son of man i.e. God is gonna be multiplied in humanity via the seed of CHRIST.Thats y Jesus said to whom the WORD HIS SEED came it made them GODS, Jesus cd not sow the GOOD seed TH SEED OF GOD if he were not God th SON.

Why do you think it's your job to pose questions that only cause striving?

You're not as transparent as you imagine.

I'm not accusing; just observing. :D

2 Timothy 2:22-26

Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.

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But foolish and unlearned questions AVOID, knowing that they do gender (cause) STRIFES.

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And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,

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In meekness instructing those that OPPOSE themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

26

And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the DEVIL, who are taken captive by him at his will.

2 Timothy 3:5

Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

2 Timothy 4:3-4

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

I STRONGLY SUGGEST WE DO NOT ARGUE ABOUT THE GODHEAD

Genesis 1:1, 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

There is only 10 scriptures Proving it.

Mishael

Please pray for me , please pray for Kristie and myself , please pray that the walls that have separated us be removed , please pray i hear from her today

Think as rational as you can , The God head not God heads !

How many heads do you have ?

1 I hope or you would belong in a side show somewhere !

How many heads to millions of creatures have ? Usually one ? Yes one .

Now here is something that you really need to consider , God said let us make man in our image . Got it ? So how many heads does man have and that includes you ! Let's put this nonsense away it makes a mockery of God .

The Godhead is God alone , The father .

God was and is In Christ .

Because Jesus is born of God and therefore the Son of God . As the Scriptures so many times and God himself call Jesus the Son of God .

God is head over Christ , Christ is head over the church , the husband is head over the wife and children .

God is head over All .

But to imply that the Godhead is a trinity is no where found in the Bible . As God the unchangeable one said I Am God and there is none beside me .

2 Thessalonians 2:1-4.

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The Holy Spirit resides in all who have come to faith in Jesus Christ ( John 14:17) & also convicts men of sin, of righteousness & (coming) judgement. ( John 16:7-11). So the Spirit is still working in the World until the appointed time when He is taken away (some argue as to when that time will be). The Son has now returned to the Father (back into the God folder), but He is distinct in that He is now God in the flesh, not as only the Word, but as the Son who has performed all that was required of Him on Earth & now at the Father's right Hand in Heaven ( Hebrews 7:25). In the human mind this is a difficult concept to grasp & that is why you are having difficulties. If you want to understand God in a human perspective, it won't work because we don't have anything on this Earth that can adequately compare to Him & our minds don't work in any other way. But do we say then that because we don't believe that such a Trinity can exist, therefore it's impossible for God to be such? I think then, that it's us who have the problem in understanding the Character of God & not the Doctrine.

Yes, illustrating the Trinity to man's trinitarian composition, is 'problematic': no illustration can adequately do the job, but I felt compelled to use it to try & help you understand, but that didn't work. And lastly, God is Spirit ( John 4:24), the Word was part of that Spirit, & the Holy Spirit was sent out into the World. So we only knew & heard God as Spirit in the OT. After Jesus ascended into Heaven, we see the (visible) God in Jesus, but we also know that God is still there ( Revelation 8:2 & about 3,000 other verses to prove it). God hasn't disappeared & Jesus has not taken His place. So please look into this & see where your theology has become skewed or maybe you are under some false teaching. May the Lord give you light on this very important matter.

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That's an interesting depiction of the Trinity you gave, Hugo. One problem though: you have shown to the non-Christian person three separate pictures which of course represent three different gods. That's not what it should be. If I had to use a similar illustration, I would say, show a folder (as one used for documents) & say that this represents God. Then take another folder & place it in the 'God folder' & call it "Jesus". Finally, take a third folder & place it in the 'God folder' & call it "Holy Spirit". So what do we have now? We still have three folders, but two of them are within God. But your non-Christian says, "I only see the God folder, where is Jesus & the Holy Spirit?" You can tell him where they are: they are within God or a part of God.

If he objects to this & says that once they are separated, they becomes three gods, then the answer to that is, that they are all in the one Godhead, but when they separate, they, as part of that Godhead, go out to perform what God intends. So we have the God folder, the Word folder & the Holy Spirit folder all in one God. God sends out His Word (as I wrote earlier), but instead of just words for a prophet to proclaim, e.g. like John the Baptist did, God made His Word a Man to not only be The Prophet, but also to be the sacrificial Lamb & Saviour, the eternal Priest & coming King. And because of this human birth made from Divine Seed (the Word), it is said that "He shall be called the Son of God" ( Luke 1:35).