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First of His kind ever.
BORN OF GOD . Able do and things and know things that no other man could ever do with such authority.
Why ? Because God was with him .
He never claimed to be or say IAM God . He said that the father whom he prayed to was greater ....
Simple to me but the spirit of error keeps people in the dark , because they can not see the truth of Gods word .
Satan blinds the minds of men and does he ever .
If you seek me with your whole heart then you will find me , God said to those in days gone by , but it still holds true for today .
If we believe the witness of men , THE WITNESS Of GOD IS GREATER:
For this is the witness of God which He hath testified of His Son .
Verse 10 ,11,13
His Son !!!!!!!! Not the Triune God .
If you understand what the Son of God means then all your delusions will vanish .
But you must except Gods witness of His Son or be forever deluded with errors .
To the revealed word of God .
God said this is my beloved Son in whom I'm well please .
I'm very much in agreement with Gods witness on record , don't add to Gods word .
If you truly understand what the witness of God is then you will not add more to it .
I'm not adding you are .
Think twice who is right you or anyone's else , or God .
Gods witness on record is enough to those that believe it , and receive it they have the witness in themselves .
Please let this pandemic end soon, if it is your will. I would like one of my teachers, to stop worrying so much, even though I don't really like him much. But everyone is worried- we all know that. Everyone has a fear of what is still to happen and how this world wide disease will be put to a stop. But I know I needn't be afraid, for you, my Father- you have everything under your control. Only You know why this has happened, and what will happen next. But in the meantime, this is an opportunity- to come closer to you, Lord. I'm so sorry I haven't spent so much time with you, I know I can, instead of reading or watching and playing on devices. PLEASE let this be over soon, though, PLEASE Lord. Anyway, also please help me to pray for others- like those girls in my class, who seem nice, but aren't Christian like me. I always feel left out and lonely in school, even though I have siblings, but then they aren't in the same year as me.. and I have been praying for a friend, or maybe even a BEST friend, since primary. I'm half way through highschool now, I HAVE gotten to be a little more confident and talkative, but the other girls.. well I just don't fit in. I'm typing this right now, in school, as you know, Lord. Please, I beg you for a friend, I know you might have other plans for me- but I promise it would mean the world to me to have a best friend. I think that is all I have to say. Oh yes, and please protect my Grandparents- in Germany and in England. Thank you lord for all you've given and all I have- I am grateful for my lovely family of six siblings and why I have to be the oldest, I don't know.. and my Mum and my Dad. Please also bless these people who made this website.
In Jesus' precious name, Amen.
By the way, I thought I was supposed to submit a prayer, not comment, sorry.
Many have made shipwreck of their faith by surrendering the battle. We fight on. No truer words have been spoken. I fathom this Love that still speaks to me after all these years. I wish I could say" I fought the good fight" but to be honest I have not" to many yields" not enough VICTORY. Nevertheless this love that beckons me on is beyond my comprehension or understanding. I get up dust myself off and start another day.
Thanks Chris
Harry
If Jesus was just a created Being (i.e. a separate creation for the purposes of ministry to the Jews & for Sacrifice), then the point I made, is what difference is there between Him & the pure, spotless sacrificial animal? Both are pure, both are created, both were prescribed of God & yes, both would only offer a temporal covering for sin, leaving the sinner today, as the Jew of yesteryear, bereft of a worthy & eternal salvation. That is why the Scriptures reveal an unbreakable link of Jesus, God's Word, coming from God in Heaven & being made the only Sacrificial Lamb that would meet God's demands fully. A created Jesus would be just another human creation (would God even do that?), however perfect He would be, but would not meet the criteria that God required for our redemption, justification & adoption. Just as the animal sacrifice could not satisfy God's Anger but only put in 'a stay of execution' to those under the law/curse, so any other created being could never do so. God's Sacrifice - His Love - was fully accomplished by Him offering up of Himself through His only Begotten Son, making our redemption perfect & final - that was God's Plan from all eternity.
And I would take you up on your words: "The important thing is that the sinner should not be a sinner any more Sinlessness is the key". There should be time for that discussion - not now. Blessings.
Yes, dear Hugo, I was referring to our conversation on 'prophets'. Re: Ecclesiastes 6:11, I think you have the wrong reference; possibly Proverbs 10:19, though this too doesn't apply.
I realize that you're not denying the deity of Christ in one sense, but I would advise you that 'Trinitarians' likewise don't deny it either. A Trinitarian understanding of the Scriptures as you know, is that there is One God & that God has expressed Himself (& revealed to us) His Being. God shows us Himself also by His Word & His Spirit - you know the Scriptures that support this. Then at the appointed time ( Romans 5:6), God sent His Word ( John 1:14) to be clothed with flesh so that a full & permanent sacrifice could be made for sin unlike animal sacrifices.
After Christ's death, resurrection & ascension, He went to sit at the Father's right Hand ( Luke 22:69; Romans 8:34) where He "ever lives to make intercession for us" ( Hebrews 7:25; Romans 8:34). So we see the Father in Heaven, His Son (Word made flesh) at the Father's right Hand & His Spirit who indwells the believer ( John 14:17; Ephesians 1:13,14) & convicts men ( John 16:8). There is no such teaching from the Bible that Jesus only exists in Heaven & that the Father & Holy Spirit are now existing in Jesus. I know this is the teaching of the "Jesus Only" movement. The Father, the Son & the Spirit are still there & all three remain part of the Eternal Godhead (& yes, by all means, level your accusation at me), for the Bible is clear. If you have Scriptures to show that this is not the case, then I welcome your further input & my study.
And when you get to verse 36, consider, "of whom (Jesus) the Father hath sanctified & SENT into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?" So, if one needs to be a stickler on the definition of Son of God as being a Son from birth only & not 'out of God's Being', another can then correctly say that Jesus was SENT into the world; why should Jesus use the word 'sent' as if He came from somewhere to go somewhere? Wouldn't it be more correct then to say, 'The Father hath specially created me to be born at Bethlehem & gave me a special ministry & finally to given my life for the world'?
And while we're examining the Scriptures, what about John 8:56-58? Abraham rejoicing to see "his day"! Are you so mad to say that you've seen Abraham? the Jews retorted. "Even before Abraham existed, I AM". Again, notice Jesus' choice of words to describe Himself.
And Colossians 1:15-17? "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him". That whole passage cited, is speaking of Jesus, not God.
Do even these few portions of Scripture cause us to think that we have here, Someone Who is more than a separate creation born into the world to fulfil God's Plans. Someone who was involved in the creation of all things, visible & invisible, One existing before Abraham & One even sent by God from somewhere to somewhere (the World)? I know that you are well aware of these Scriptures, but I remain perplexed as to how some other interpretation can be given other than understood as read.
So who or what (I do not know which to use in this case) is Jesus Christ? Please speak clearly.
Peace & Love in Christ
Thank you for taking the effort to reply to my comment. Everything else aside, I appreciate your time. (You mentioned a previous conversation; perhaps you are confusing me with someone else, unless you mean that one comment about whether there are still prophets.)
Let us just be careful: Ecclesiastes 6:11 The more words, the less meaning. You wrote a lot but I do not see much which is relevant to the topic at hand. I never denied Jesus Christ His deity. In contrast, I think Trinitarians deny His deity. I clearly said that Jesus Christ is the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Trinitarians say He is not the Father or the Holy Ghost. Actually I should level the denying deity accusation at YOU!
You say that the man Jesus could not be a sacrifice for sins. You say it has to be God that is the sacrifice. I do not understand your reasoning. The reason why the animal sacrifice had to be done yearly is because the sinner is not cleaned of his sin. He is still a sinner. He will walk away and sin again. The animal was a yearly covering for the sin. So the important thing is not the sacrifice. The important thing it that the sinner should not be a sinner any more. That is what the Holy Ghost does for us. We are washed once in the blood of Jesus, and then we can be filled with the Holy Spirit. I do not see why you say it is of no use that God create a human being to be the sacrifice. Sinlessness is the key.
Peace & Love to you. May God allow us all to know Him intimately.