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1 Cor 6:7-9,

"Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind...,"

The unrighteous people, no matter believers or not, will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

1 Cor 5:11,

"But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person."

A brother from within the church doing all that? Well brethren not all of us will go to heaven at the end. If we want to be called brothers, since we are brothers, we have to be holy to be accepted by God.

1 Cor 5:6, "...Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?"

A little sin will bring inside a bigger one, and it keeps going on and on.

- It is "small".

- Well it isn't

1 Cor 5:3-5,

"For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed, In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus."

Paul here is talking about that man who was living with his father's wife (or girlfriend).

What does it mean "To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus." It means that the church had to throw that man out of the fellowship. Once he is out, then the satan takes in charge and the man will suffer illness or any other bad thing in his flesh, since now he is not under God's protection. IF that brings repentance to him, then he will be saved although his flesh had suffered a lot.

1 Cor 4:19-20,

"But I(Paul) will come to you shortly, if the Lord will, and will know, NOT THE SPEECH of them which are puffed up, BUT THE POWER. For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power."

1 Cor 4:9-13,

"For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men. We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised. Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace; And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:

Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day."

NOT the gospel of prosperity But the gospel of suffering. I heard once someone using the term "the gospel of the towel". I liked it.

1 Cor 4:4, "For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord."

Paul means that he finds nothing wrong in himself, but the Lord knows if and what.

1 Cor 3:12-13,

"12 Now if any man build upon this foundation(Jesus Christ) gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is."

What materials do we use for building our spiritual house(selves)? The day of the trial will show. Shall it fall or shall it stay?

In much assurance !!!

1 Cor 2:4-5,

"4 And my(Paul's) speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, BUT IN DEMONSTRATION OF THE SPIRIT AND OF POWER: 5 That your faith should NOT stand in the wisdom of men, BUT in the power of God."

How many preachers can say that? I hear people saying that we don't need miracles any more, those were for those early times, just preaching is enough. I don't think Paul would agree with that.

1 Thessalonians 1:5,

"For our gospel came not unto you in word ONLY, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake."

1 Cor 1:30,

"But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:"

1 Cor 1:26-28,

"26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world

to confound the things which are mighty;

28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to

nought things that are:"

One will not see many powerful and famous people among christians. But one will see many Lazarus' among us. The famous and rich usualy follow another way.

1 Cor 1:22,

"For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks(gentiles) seek after wisdom:"

The world hasn't changed much, has it?

1 Cor 1:10,

"Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment."

Philippians 1:27-28,

"Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I (Paul) come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;"

Paul says to the people of the church of Corinth:

1 Cor 1:7,

"So that ye(Corinthians) come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:"

Paul tells to Corinthians that they do have all the gifts. What are these gifts?

They are described later on in 1 Cor 12:7-11,

"4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit

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8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;

10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

11But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will."

Does the church, which we are menbers of, have those gifts? Lets examine it.

Compare Dan.7 especially vv.10-14 with Re.5. I have to conserve my energy whatever left of it for needful things and it is not to give you understanding, Holy Spirit is the best tutor, and I can only explain my understanding on the basis of the Bible Study. You seem to approach literally while I have another approach to the Bible. Sorry if I am not inclined to draw in another round. it shall be wasting my effort. Ask God to enlighten your understanding as He did with mine. So leave it that brother.

Bennymkje

The most important thing is what JESUS said: Luke 20:35-36

35 But they which shall be accounted WORTHY to obtain that world (next world-the Kingdom of GOD- Revelation 11:15-18, among other biblical references), and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:

36 Neither can they die any more: for they are EQUAL unto the ANGELS; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

Revelation 5:10

10 And hast made us unto our GOD kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Matthew 5:5

5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

Act 1:9-11

9 And when JESUS had spoken these things, while they beheld, He was taken up; and a CLOUD received Him out of their sight. ( Matthew 17:5-5 While JESUS yet spake, behold, a bright CLOUD overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same JESUS, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

Jesse

to change my mind would be denying God, Scriptures, sound reasoning & the Witness in my heart.

What we have writen is True Christianity,

I feel you are sensible enough in your heart to know it, who do you think inspire you to write it?

though it maybe just a Seed, being planted within, as an invitation for all who have ears to hear & a heart to receive this Truth

I personally have received it by pick up my Cross and in a measure experiencing this.

At first I dreaded it, but as I continue therein ( I'm speaking years ) its truly is as Christ declared Matt 11:29,30

For He truly is the God 2Cor 1:4

Now I'm Psalms 40:8

In reading your thread, my heart leap for joy, that God has & is openning this to you.

Friend, lets strive to enter the straight gate, lets run the race, press towards the mark, & in the end, when he places upon us our crowns, then we in turn can lay them down at His feet Rev 5:11-13

come on!

I can say in Truth, as the old hymn says (& I have already experience) "though none go with me, yet I will follow".

In all of this it has been a very broken, humbling, & merciful experience, considering where He found me.

There's "no turning back, no turning back,"

His Grace to you, Jesse.

Bennymkje

It seems that you did not understand that GOD gave the sealed book of Revelation unto JESUS,and JESUS called an angel(different of the translation,in fact an Archangel,as an ambassador of the Lord),and delivered the message unto Him to reveal the content of the book to the apostle John who was in Patmos because of the Word of GOD,and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Being on Patmos,the archangel presents himself to John being behind Him as recommended by the Word( Isaiah 30:21),not in front,in front only JESUS must be,do you understand?And John heard behind him a great voice, as of a trumpet, so John turned to see the voice that spake with him, and being turned he saw seven golden candlesticks (the 7 Churches of Asia, whose spiritual conditions reflect the spiritual conditions of the Churches in this current time of the END, time of Apocalipse, by the way reflect a very terrible condition);

John saw in the midst of the seven candlesticks ONE LIKE UNTO THE SON OF MAN. How was him? Revelation 1:13-16:

13 He presents himself "clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle".(This picture or scenary remembers Joseph in Egypt- Exodus 41:38-45)

14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

16 And he had in his right hand seven stars:and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged Sword:and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.(By the way, he was also with Joshua in the Old Testament- Joshua 5:13-15)

Paul Apostle spoke about him in 1Thes.4:16 and 1Cor.15:51-52.Take a look.

JESUS warned:At midnight there was a cry made,Behold, the bridegroom cometh;go ye out TO MEET him-Mat.25:6.Who's going?

See,IT'S NOT ENOUGH to just have lamp-the Word of GOD-a lamp for the feet-Ps.119:105;It's necessary also to have oil,otherwise the lamp will go out.

In 1 corinthians 13: 3 says "And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing"

what does Charity mean in this context because if one bestow his or her goods to feed the poor, its considered as charity

Dear Pnovello,

Thank you for your prayers, I really appreciate all the kind responses on here.

Also I will ask our Father to let me know, what needs to go, like you mentioned, books, music and other material things. This makes sense.

The idea of an audiobook is also good to have, so I will search for it.

In regards to the Corrie ten Boom museum, I've never been there, but according to their site it looks like a interesting museum to visit, since it is also a living memorial to the family who lived as Christians.

Thank you again and may our Heavenly Father bless you!

With kind regards,

Ronald

Jimbob, in response to your question

Not according to Hebrews 8:9 on tablets of stone.

but, Yes, according to the New Covenant promise, Him writing His Law upon our heart & placing His Spirit within us.

1 John 2:27 & is not a lie.

Jimbob

you seem to be stuck on the letter.

God's Grace / Spirit / Light appears to all mankind, preaches the gospel to them within their hearts , whether they ever heard of a bible or not, or having never learnt to read, or for that matter whether they believe in God or not, or if their in some far remote places in the earth. as David expressed, Psalms 139:7-11

its the sure Word of Prophecy & is preserve for all generations & forever

Call in the order of Melchisedec in the Power of an endless life, Christ in you the hope of eternal glory.

May God graciously continue to open the eyes of your heart

to Himself, Who is within you.

Ge.2:21-23 "The Soul"

"And (God) brought her unto the man".(v.22)

It is not ourselves but it is God who has brought us into the Fellowship of God and Man. This is the gift of God. (Ep.2:8-10) Jesus speaks of it from his POV, "As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him."( John 17:2) Glory of the word like seed finding the right soil so wisdom is a deep calling unto deep,- which in this case is the power and he has power over all who would benefit from. He knew who were his. "those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled."(17:12) That the scripture might be fulfilled sets him the soul, the knowing part so we have Adam as the double revealing another aspect of the Son. As the Son of man he knew what was in the man of man. "But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him./And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father."( John 6:63-64)

It pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell.

"And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man."

The Spirit invests in Adam the same qualities that Christ as the brightness of His glory displayed. As the Good shepherd he revealed his Father the Shepherd of souls(1 Pe.2:25).

Dear One Eighty,

I did perceive that you were speaking to how we think, speak and act towards others in general.

I think that on this site, since we cannot really know each other as we would people we meet with in person regularly, we do need to employ the motivations, attitudes, graciousness and patience that you mention.

Thank you for your kindness and openness. I appreciate you.

Ge.2:21-23 "Bone and flesh"

"And he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof"

God caused the deep sleep which is according to his purpose. Adam as a stand in for his body cannot have any other meaning than what his emblem signifies. The slain Lamb foreshadows the death of his Son. According to the Min-Max, mode of Narrative a specific action of God telescopes into the 'forever' mode applicable to the Son. Accordingly his sleep refers to the death of the Son as on another occasion God tells King Solomon, "I have hallowed this house, which thou hast built, to put my name there for ever; and mine eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually."(1 Ki.9:3). The bone signifies doctrine. What is a rib, a bio-material protecting the lungs where spiritually the presence of God like winged cherubs, presides over man. (Temple of God- 1 Co.3:16-17) By the breath of God he made Adam a living soul. Notice the order the word of God (breath) next the doctrine of God and closed up the flesh refers to the word become flesh. Adam is confirmed as the double for his Son.

vv.22-23

" And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man./And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man."

We see how the living soul responds. Adam did not confirm his suspicion as to what the woman signified. He knew in his bones the truth. The Spirit gives us a parallel commentary on the development of the holy family. all those who shall be pressed into the church, the body of Christ.

please remember me and my family in your prayers today

Ge.2:18

" And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him."

Here we see the Mind of God. Power principle in godhead works with Wisdom principle and operation of one in tandem with the other is glory; so Fellowship of God with Man gives a body that is enjoined to enter into the rest of God. (He.4:1) 'Where is the place of my rest?' (Is.66:1). Peace of which passeth all understanding should warn us the pitfall of judging the rest of God from human circumstances.

In the Lord's prayer we recall the Power and the glory which is forever. Whereas The Word becoming flesh death and resurrection only explains a body which is in flux reason for which we have this verse, "That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish,"(Ep.5:27) In Christ we shall find equipoise or enter into his Rest, the Sabbath. Adam could not find rest in His creation. The peace of God mentioned here above necessarily is in the Son 'as the express image of his person.' Adam was merely a stand-in for the Son, marked by 'son' of God. ( Luke 3:38)

vv.21-22

"And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;/And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man."

Regarding deep sleep we have yet another example, "So David took the spear and the cruse of water from Saul's bolster; and they gat them away, and no man saw it, nor knew it, neither awaked: for they were all asleep; because a deep sleep from the Lord was fallen upon them."(1 Sa.26:12) Deep sleep simply establishes it was in accordance with the will of God. Thus was with Adam as a double for the Son so Eve is created in her own right as well as in fulfillment of divine Purpose. We shall see this double function in theLife of Abram and Sarai.

Bro. Oseas,

There is one more point with regards to the nature of angels: measurement of the holy city of God where Jesus Christ as the Head gives every believer called to be a saint the same measurement. "And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel."(Re.21:17) God hates unequal weights, is it not? "

Divers weights are an abomination unto the LORD"(Pr.20:23)

Bro.Oseas

First your question of the angel whom Jesus Christ semt 'and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John'(Re.1:1) The angel reveals himself, " I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things./ Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book."(Re.22:8-9) 'fellowservant' and 'brethren' Again we have "And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." (Re.19:10) Those who have the testimony of Jesus. They are the saints called before the worlds began. They are the cloud of witnesses ('Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses'-He.12:1) We see them as St Stephen saw(Ac.7:56) or St Peter (Ac.10:11) and our heart is not anatomical part but carries a spiritual space. Daniel saw in the night vision, "thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him." (Dan.7:10) This is a great congregation that Psalm 40:10 refers to. On account of this what we whisper in our bedchamber is like shouting from the roof tops. Nothing is hidden.

Secondly regarding principle of Similitude He.11:3 The unseen world (of the will of the Father- the heaven) with the visible earth (seen the word become flesh-the Son)The Lord's prayer.Matt.6:10 ('Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.') Principle of Association is about the gospel. (Matt.10:40; Luke 10:16) Thirdly Ministry of Reconciliation. All 'theory" or suppositions must be backed by the word of God. Hope this makes clear.

Heavenly Father, please answer Andrew's requests. All who were mentioned need what only You can givepeace, protection, love, mercy, deliverance, healing, safetyin the Mighty Name of Jesus Christ. God bless you Andrew