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  • One eighty - In Reply - 1 year ago
    GiGi,

    I agree 100% with your last posting to me.

    For more clarity on what I last posted to you, I was not aiming my comments specifically towards activity on this site; but instead, in general terms on everything we say, do, and even think in our private thoughts towards everyone, in all circumstances and events. This is especially important in what I see as our "special" relationships, i.e. family and what we consider close friends. These are more often than not more challenging and typically need healing and active ongoing forgiveness in some manner. At least, this is what I've experienced. Yet, I think everyone we meet or speak to are forms of relationships worthy of these considerations.

    Of course, I'm not speaking of physical attacks upon the body, in which we sadly may need to defend ourselves and others.

    Please be assured, I'm not assuming that you were thinking that I was speaking SPECIFICALLY regarding this site. I do feel though I needed to further clarify.

    To those on this site who have perceived me as attacking them, I do not doubt that their feelings are justified. I sincerely apologize.

    I recall that in my late teens, I attended a conference at the Oakland Coliseum, put on by a Christian man named Bill Gothard. He provided round pin-on buttons that said PBPGINFWMY, meaning "please be patient, God is not finished with me yet". I can't say that over the years,I've always afforded others this courtesy, which I suspect has caused me and others unnecessary turmoil. With the Holy Spirit's help, we're working on it as much as I will let Him. The Holy Spirit does not limit His giving is my belief; Simply, I've limited my receiving.

    Father, in the Name of Jesus, I pray for myself that I would be more open to your correction, to be forgiving of myself and others, and to be willing to understand and accept your Perfect Love. Amen.

    Again, to all, Blessings and Peace
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thank you for your reply, dear Bro. Bennymkje

    I see that according to the your theory, the """Principle of Similitude explains the basis of comparing the like with like; So the heaven is compared with the earth."""

    Along the same line as your theory above or interpretation saying "the heaven is compared with the earth" by the Principle of Similitude,

    so I took your example to compare the Similitude between the Son of GOD and the angel who was sent by Him to the isle of Patmos- Revelation 1:1-Revelation of JESUS Christ, which GOD gave unto Him, to shew unto His servants things which must shortly come to pass; and He sent and signified it by His ANGEL unto His servant John. (Different of the translation, In my vision an Archangel). But what is the Similitude between the Son of GOD and the archangel sent by JESUS to speak with John?

    Here goes the Similitude: Revelation 1:13-16. (By the way, JESUS was in heaven when He sent the archangel to meet John , He was sitting on the right hand of the Father).



    Verse 13 - And in the midst of the seven candlesticks (7 Churches of Asia) one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

    14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

    15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

    16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged Sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

    Revelation 22:8-9

    8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.

    9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship GOD.

    Surely He is our fellowservant. Praise our GOD.

    Blessings
  • Elliux2 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thank you very much for your prayer.greatly appreciated! May God Bless you!
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    FrankieJ,

    You may be the first person here that's told me that. I am not sure how to respond. I would encourage you to give me a little more time, you might change your mind later!

    May the Lord continue to draw you and nourish you through His word, and may that hunger always remain, God bless!!!
  • Pnovello - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Heavenly Father, I plea for Your mercy and grace in protecting Ronald. Heal his body, soul, and mind. Father God block the negative disturbing thoughts, visions, nightmares and dreams that causes him to lose sleep. Everything and anything may You, Father God, bring it to a halt and replace it with peace. Ronald wants to go back to work that You have for him to do. In the mighty name of Jesus Christ. Ronald, ask Father God, if there is something(s) in your house that is/are displeasing Him. Without you knowing maybe books, movies, musicthat displease Him. A few years ago I threw out all the music (it was nice music nothing like hard rock) because God told me that I should be listening only Christian music. I am not telling you what to do just suggesting. Do you have an audio Bible that you can play throughout the day and night? I listen to sermons, that help me go to sleep. I listen to them over and over again. God bless you Ronald and keep us updated. Love you
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 1 year ago
    AMEN Frankie J:

    What is our cross for?

    To DIE on or cross.

    Psalms 116:15 Precious in the sight of the Lord is the DEATH (on our cross) of his saints.

    If we die on the cross of Christ, the we were MARRIED to him in his RESURRECTION.

    1 Corinthians 15:43 .... raised in GLORY .....

    1 Peter 1:21 WE by him (Christ) do BELIEVE in God, who raised him from the dead, and GAVE him GLORY....

    John 17:22 And the GLORY thou GAVEST ME, I have GIVEN them, that as we are ONE, they may BE ONE in us.

    There was ONLY ONE BODY raise at the RESURRECTION of Christ.

    Ephesians 4:4 .....ONE body .......

    1 Corinthians 12:27 ..... ye are the BODY of Christ ......

    Ezekiel 36:26 A NEW HEART will I give you .....

    1 Corinthians 2:16 .... ye have the MIND of Christ .....

    We are a NEW Creation, ONE BODY, with the heart and mind of Christ.

    Psalms 107:31 Oh that man would praise the LORD for his goodness, his wonderful works to the children of men!

    God Bless YOU!
  • Pnovello - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Riemmers, I visited your beautiful country some years ago. The people are very nice. I went to the Corrie Ten Museum. It was beautiful. I will continually have you in my prayers.
  • Jimbob - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Frankie J thank you for your response.

    Do you believe that God preserved His Word for this generation?

    If you do then where is it today?

    If you do not then wouldn't that make ( Ps 12:6-7) meaningless, or even make it a lie?
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Rainwalker:

    There is no 7 year great tribulation. There WAS a GREAT TRIBULATION 2000 years ago, but those days of that GREAT TRIBULATION were shortened for the elects sake.

    Matthew 24:21 For then shall be GREAT TRIBULATION such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time (of the great tribulation), no, nor shall ever be.

    Matthew 24:22 And except those days (of the great tribulation) BE SHORTENED, there shall no flesh BE SAVED ....

    What are you SAVED from? ---DEATH --- When was DEATH defeated? ---- at the RESURRECTION of Christ ----

    The above scriptures STATES the Great Tribulation had to occur before flesh could be SAVED from DEATH. Therefore the Great Tribulation had to occur before the resurrection.

    The GREAT TRIBULATION was from the time Christ entered the garden until his death on the cross.

    God BLESS YOU!
  • Pnovello - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Heavenly Father, please have them find the ring. If someone has it I pray they take it to the store. In the Mighty Name of Jesus Christ.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Dear One eighty. Thanks for your reply and kindness.

    I am glad you are finding what I post thought provoking. That is certainly one aim I have is to inspire people to think on topics and learn from the Scriptures what is true. We should hold whatever anyone says on this forum up to the light and truth of Scriptures. It is our authority and way to know God through the working of the Holy Spirit.

    We are to do and say all things from love from the heart. I try to do this here. I think it is fine to discuss, disagree, and offer a rebuttal on what someone says on this forum. But. like you said, our motivation should not be to attack another person here personally. It is ok to have strong opinions and reasoning. It is ok to strongly disagree with another, and it is ok to choose to exit a conversation that seems to be antagonistic. Disagreements are not necessarily attacks unless they are put forth in a contentious, sarcastic, demeaning, and/or disrespectful way. Thanks for your comments on this topic. We can discuss things lovingly with God's help.
  • Frankie J - 1 year ago
    Jesse

    a very important subject here in both topics, faith & suffering

    1.Faith, we all know that Rom 10:17, Paul earlier says it is Rom 10:8 he's not talking about the letter here

    But John 6:63 The Grace / Light that appears in the heart bringing salvation to all mankind Hebrews 9:28 that wait on Him.

    Believing that it is He, speaking to us & His first works within us is teaching us to deny all ungodliness & the learning of righteousness

    Paul says in Gal 3:2 so there's an increase of His Spirit as we received His judgement of sin & instruction in righteousness.

    Here is Power offered to overcome all sin. For He who show us our sin, will not only take them away, but power is given to preserve from repeating the sin. There is one requirement, a truly contrite & broke heart birth through godly sorrow for the offense. This is saving faith produce by the Spirit, True faith purifies the heart, cleanses the vessel 2 Timothy 2:21

    2.Suffering 2Timothy 3:12

    As we look through both Testaments, we see a common thread, the suffering of the faithful

    Paul by the Spirit call them 2Cor 4:17 which suffering brings a far more eternal weigh of glory

    Hebrews 11:35,38 attain a better resurrection, whom the world was not worthy of.

    We must have a renewing of our minds as Paul contiu.. 2Cor 4:18

    What an encouragement on this side of the grave, & the reward is eternal,

    Folks,

    lets pick up our Cross & follow Jesus, He merciful & faithfully cleanses us from all unrighteousness, takes away our sins against Him, continually increases us with His Spirit alone the Way, until we are baptize unto His death, being dead unto sin, baptizes us in His Spirit, each one fitted in the body according to His gifts, we enter into the fellowship of His suffering (He's there with us ) therefore we experience the Power of His resurrection, & He never leaves us or forsakes us.

    Then rewards us for what He alone done through us, what a deal, Come on!

    Jesse you inspire me, thank you
  • Jema - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Yes , what is not of faith is of sin , Revelation Ch 21 V 5-8 .
  • One eighty - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello GiGi,

    Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

    I agree, all of us sin and God allows it; otherwise He would be violating our free will, which He created us with. Therefore, we would be the cause of bad stuff due to our sinning, not God.

    I won't go any further than this in response to your reply, other than I also do not fully perceive the Mind of God. Yet, I perceive correctly I believe, it is worthwhile more than anything to endeavor to do so, and that those who do pursue to do so , will.

    GiGi, you have no clue how thought provoking your replies are; and also the comments on this site by others. Even if I don't necessarily agree with everything. Thank you: in my mind all of you are worthy of taking into consideration of EVERYTHING you say.

    One final comment: I've arrived at the conclusion that since love is obviously not sin, that everything that is not love, is; and that those, including myself that sin, it is a cry for help, due to a lack of Love. Although at times, in my own mind, I fail to recognize this. But when I accept this as true, it helps me to reconsider how I react or respond to others by not perceiving their attacks on others as evil or bad done to me or others as such; instead though as a cry for help. This helps immensely; because now I don't see myself as a victim, allowing me not to feel the need to attack in return. Seeing sin (doing something unloving) as a cry for help due to a lack of Love, is rewarding because in this way I won't attack back. I realize, from a lifetime of perceiving and returning attack, that it is ONLY an attack upon myself! And there is NO peace in that.

    Peace to all
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Brother Richard:

    You are completely out of sync (rightly dividing the word) with the PROPHECIES of scripture.

    Mosses and the Prophets reveal to us the Kingdom of God.

    When Christ came HE SAID: all of Mosses and the Prophets IS fulfilled IN ME. It's FINISHED, nothing can be added and nothing can be taken way.

    The Kingdom has been ON EARTH now for about 2000 years.

    The whole prophecy of Daniel; is the prophecy of the Kingdom of God, no part of Daniel is a prophecy of a single anti-christ ..... what ISN'T of FAITH is anti-christ, what ISN'T of TRUTH is anti-christ.

    WE ALL were born flesh and blood, no FAITH in us, no TRUTH in us, no LIFE in us, all these things CHRIST IS; we were BORN DEAD, anti-christ,our HOUSES MADE DESOLATE: and ALL the DEAD were RAISED with CHRIST; life and truth, the NEW CREATION.

    Revelation is the REVEALING of this WAY, this TRUTH, this LIFE.

    The doctrines of men have made the GOSPEL of the Kingdom of God of no effect.

    The 1260 days, 42 months, 3 1/2 years is the time Christ spent proclaiming the gospel of the Kingdom of God, by his cross and resurrection, all creation was RECONCILED to our Father, being made ONE by the RESURRECTION.

    1335 days (pentecost) marked the time the SPIRIT of TRUTH was released on mankind to proclaim the WONDERFUL WORKS of God.

    God Bless YOU!
  • Giannis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello Oseas

    There has been a misunderstanding. What I intented to say is that God hasn't got a name like people have in order to distinguish them from others. The names (and He has got many) He uses for Himself have a unique purpose. Through His names He reveals to people some of His characteristics. Like say "YAHWEH", which means "I am who I am" and which is interpreted as "the self existing God". So God with this name reveals to us that nobody ever created Him. You see? More on this. "Lord of the hosts" means "the Almighty God". God is showing people through that name that He is the most powerful being in the universe.

    Brother, I live in Greece. Here the time is 3 hours ahead of Greenwich time. So now it is 11:10 before midnight.

    Blessings to all my brothers and sisters in Brasil and the whole of South America.
  • Giannis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    More on cooperation with God, and the huge significance of prayers.

    In the Book of 1 Kings, the story of prophet Elijah is described. In 1 Kings 18:1-2 Elijiah is called by God to go to the King Ahab to tell him that He was going to send rain (because it had not rain for many years and people were suffering).

    "And it came to pass after many days, that the word of the LORD came to Elijah in the third year, saying, Go, shew thyself unto Ahab; and I will send rain upon the earth."

    What does one expect in such a case? Definitely that God is going to send rain. Are we(or Elijah) supposed to do something about it? The obvious answer is, "No, it is God's work, nothing that we can do. He decided it ... He will do it". But what did Elijiah do?

    1 Kings 18:41-42, "41 And Elijah said unto Ahab, Get thee up, eat and drink; for there is a sound of abundance of rain.

    42 So Ahab went up to eat and to drink. And Elijah went up to the top of Carmel; and he cast himself down upon the earth, and put his face between his knees (and prayed seven times, which is a lot, isn't it?),"

    So Elijah went to pray for rain. And the question is. Why? It was God's decision to give rain and He sent Elijah to inform Ahab. Why did Elijah have to pray for something that God decided to do? Here comes the issue of cooperation. God may decide to do something but he expects our cooperation, our prayers. The church is a "partner" of God in the work of salvation of people. God definitely wants our cooperation. He can do all things alone without needing any help from anybody else, He is the Almighty God anyway. But He will not unless we, as humans, take part in that work. So there is a big responsibilty on our shoulders, and a lot of work to do for God. Prayers are very important.

    Paul was always asking for prayers to get freed from his enemies and from jail, and prayers to be able to preach the Gospel, although it was God that send him to do that.
  • Anjels - 1 year ago
    My desire is to be fully submissive and humble before God! I have hit a ruff patch in life ,but i am ready to go full force..Please keep me in prayer
  • Stephanie V - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thank you so much for your continued prayers, Pnovello! We really appreciate it!
  • RicoUS - 1 year ago
    Asking for strong protection and breakthrough for us and all in need. Lord Jesus please fight our battles and give us victory please. Please send encouragement and strength. Please save many before its too late Father. Thank you. In your holy name I pray. Amen.
  • RicoUS - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thank you and PRAISE you Father, Lord Jesus! Please allow for the knee pain to totally be gone. Thank you. Amen
  • RicoUS - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Lord Jesus please richly bless, protect and guide and send help to all mentioned in accordance with your perfect will Father. Thank you. Amen
  • RicoUS - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Amen....Thank you so much. Father I continue to stand with Pnovello in prayer asking that you send healing and breakthrough concerning all the things she has been crying out to you for in accordance with your perfect will. Please encourage, strengthen, protect. These times are so tough for so many believers. Father please send the latter rain. The Living Water, the Fire of the Holy Spirit and Lord Jesus may you come back very soon. Maranatha.
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Dear Bro.Oseas,

    Isn't it amazing how the Spirit drawms entire narrative to one centre of gravity that is the Son? He does so by certain principles after a similitude. Of Moses what does God speak, "and the similitude of the Lord shall he behold:" Principle of Similitude explains the basis of comparing the like with like; So the heaven is compared with the earth. The world of the Spirit in his Son has a similitude, consequently we speak of Moses as a double for Jesus. But to confuse the role of servant Moses with that of Jesus Christ as the Son over all his shall lead a believer to confusion. The Spirit has thus provided signposts all along and it is solely for perfection in his Son. "the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

    "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:/That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works." Faith and good works are in the Son and not by dragging Law of Moses in between. Besides there is no greater or lesser in Trinity. Office of the Holy Spirit is to organize the Word, time of fulfillment and letting all glory to the Son.

    If we follow the Spirit for doctrine for reproof and for correction we shall be indeed instructed in righteousness. Faith with which we were led and good works that produces are not apart but the fruit of the Spirit.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Amen Jordyn.

    Philippians 1:29.

    You are right.

    God bless.
  • Oseas - 1 year ago
    A brother in Christ-Les Brewer-wrote about a*SUPERNATURAL TRANSFORMATION*in friendsofjesus.proboard,quoting 1Samuel 17:45"You come to me with a sword,with a spear,and with a javelin. But I come to you in the name of the Lord of hosts,the GOD of the armies of Israel,whom you have defied."

    We all,with unveiled face,beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord,are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.

    Christ-occupation makes you bold but not superior,humble but not inferior.When our minds are occupied with Jesus,we don't have to try to be humble.In the presence of the Servant-King,our hearts become supernaturally transformed,and we will carry His servant heart.ITOH,when you dwell and spend time with Jesus,all that He is will rub off on you.Your thoughts and your words will be full of the fragrance of His sweet presence and grace.All your inferiority and insecurities will melt away in His marvelous love for you.It takes people who are truly secure in Christ to be able to bow down and serve others with genuine humility".

    In my understand,more than ever, GOD's people need to receive and hear messages like the one posted above by our brother in Christ Les Brewer.The Word of GOD-the Word is GOD-warned us saying"This know also,that in the last days perilous times shall come"-2Ti.3:1- ITOH,there will be a battle,a spiritual War-Rev.12 combined with Rev.11:15-18 -,and the red Dragon will manifest himself"having great wrath,because he knows that he has but a short time"- Rev. 12:12.

    JESUS left revealed that"Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles,until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled"- Luke 21:24 combined with Rev.11:2-"the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months",and the red dragon will"give to the Beast of sea-Rev.3:1(ruler/guide of the apostate Church of Rome-RCC,which rides upon the Beast),yeah,will give his Power,and his Seat(in the holy city-Jerusalem),and great Authority-Rev.13:2.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    "Bennymkje"

    Yes, as JESUS revealed,"when unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places seeking rest". The dry places where the unclean spirit walks are the men made by the dust in the belly of the Serpent( John 8:44-45), and are without the Spirit of GOD, without the Spirit of Christ, as was Israel, the clay, the dry land. The unclean spirit finds none among them which were born again from GOD and really remain in the body of Christ. 1John 5:18-19->18 We know that whosoever is born of GOD sinneth not; but he that is begotten of GOD keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. 19 And we know that we are of GOD, and the WHOLE WORLD lieth in wickedness.(Because they live in the belly of the Serpent,and only within them the unclean spirit finds rest.)

    The unclean spirit saith: I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished./ Then goeth the unclean spirit, and taketh with himself (7) seven other spirits more wicked than himself,

    1Peter 5:8-9

    8 Be sober,be vigilant;because your adversary the Devil(the old Serpent),as a roaring lion,WALKETH about, seeking whom he may devour. 9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.

    Job 1:6-There was a Day when the sons of GOD came to present themselves before the Lord,and Satan(the Old Serpent)came also among them.(By the way,we are entering the Day of the Lord,the last millennium)

    Reevelation 11:15-18

    15 - The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

    ...

    The battle is against three unclean spirits like frogs: Revelation 16:13-15

    13 I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon,and out of the mouth of the beast,and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

    14 They are the spirits of devils, working miracles...

    15 Behold, I come as a thief. ...
  • Rlemmers - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Dear Bibleman 72,

    Thank you for your prayer, it is much appreciated.

    May our Heavenly Father bless you!

    With kind regards,

    Ronald
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    This post of 23/02/24 "A dream doubled" Ge.41:25-32 may help reader understand the deep sleep of Adam

    "And Joseph said unto Pharaoh, "And for that the dream was doubled unto Pharaoh twice; it is because the thing is established by God, and God will shortly bring it to pass."(v.32)

    This chapter begins with a clue. "And it came to pass at the end of two full years, that Pharaoh dreamed: and, behold, he stood by the river." So we are considering the third year, where Three is a command number for the Son. Compare with this vision, "In the third year of the reign of king Belshazzar."(Dan.8:1)

    A day is appointed for the Son and the everlasting covenant is not merely for nations that only speak of the world made to appear. It covers also the world unseen which is eternal.(He.11:3;2 Co.4:18). Both worlds of the flesh and of the Spirit are covered under dreams. Fools take exclusively to here and now because faith (as God has revealed) holds no meaning to them.

    Sleep and awake, night and day are doubled to indicate each of the pair either deserving everlasting contempt or to everlasting life. "And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt./And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever."

    What does it tell you? Day as Joseph figures from Pharaoh's dreams is about Jesus Christ by whom all things consist. "All things were created by him, and for him./ And he is before all things, and by him all things consist."(Col.1:16-17)/ What God revealed to Pharaoh are identical despite the dreams indicated seven fat kine and seven lean kine, in one; and seven good ears and seven empty ears. The seven is a tag that 'it is established by God' and shall surely come to pass,

    The dream was doubled unto Pharaoh twice because God is the Sovereign Lord and Pharaoh is here cast as a double for him."(selected)
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Ge.2:20-21

    Like Begets Life

    The Superscription can be put this way, "And the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself." Whose seed is in itself makes the tree of life and the trees of righteousness as of one kind. Whose seed is in itself refers to the word of God sown in our hearts about which we hold a spiritual space.

    Thus Adam would not find an help meet. He was the double for his Son and his mate had to match bone for bone and flesh for flesh. This understanding is what being based on truth did. God breathed his spirit into his nostrils and his living soul established his world 'in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,'. Now for the verse,

    "But for Adam there was not found an help meet for him./And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;"

    What does sleep signify? For Jesus here was no doubt with regards to Jairus's daughter. Before he would go in he said, "For the maid is not dead, but sleepeth. And they laughed him to scorn."(Matt.9:24; Luke 8:8:49-55) He was there as the Word become flesh but also was in the land of the living where his Father was the God of the living." The same two worlds we are discussing and it's frame of reference is not only the now but also the day decreed for the Son.

    When Jesus transfigured before the three disciples he merely showed the two worlds he carried about and it was same for Adam. He carried the same glory so he was naked but felt no shame.(Ge.2:25)

    In 2:21 the Spirit speaks of a deep sleep which is not merely his sleep but with reference to the Son for whom he was a stand in. It is for this reason Elisha asked a double portion of his spirit. "And Elisha said, I pray thee, let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me."(2 Ki.2:9). This is in context of the two worlds. 'Deep' refers to the death of the Son which would occur according to the scriptures in the day decreed for him.


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