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Please pray for my son. He is trying to go back fro God's house.

Blessings!!

Pray for the return of the prodigals. And pray for the restoration of family altars.

Hello Jackie,

I do enjoy hearing your interpretation of God's Word and I think it's wonderful that you love to discuss the Word.

What I'm hearing you say here is that you believe God's Word was the 1st Law. And yes, that could be absolutely true in a sense. If we were to believe that, we'd have to make absolutely sure of the difference between Covenant Law and the Law that is written in the heart and mind.

The thing is there was no Law for sin at the time of Adam, therefore sin was not imputed at that time and this is the reason he and all others were considered sinners even though they had never sinned. All these folks at that time tried to win back God's favor thru offerings as you noted.

I agree with the lamb being sacrificed as the first blood covering. Good insight on your part. :) I believe it must have been quite a shock for A&E to see this killing and blood for the first time.

My viewpoint is each person needs to understand that sin became defined via the Covenant Law that God gave to Moses to give to the Israelites. When one agrees to be party with God to just one jot or tittle of the Covenant Law they automatically become a sinner until they are freed from the Covenant Law because God made the Law purposely so that no one was able to keep it without breaking it.

Most religions have used bits and pieces of the Covenant Law to form their religious doctrine which causes many problems for many people.

The Covenant Law brings in the need for a Savior and we know that takes place at the cross.

Thank you for your question regarding the breaking of the Law... Lynn :)

You have a responsibility to search scriptures to make positive that your Pastor does not teach heresy.

I did my best, Lord Jesus. Please undertake this child, open his eyes to see Your Truth, and not someone else's.

You have no need that any man teach you, because if you are born again and received the Holy Spirit; He Is Your Teacher.

John 16

We are told over and over; Jesus said, FOLLOW ME.

The Hebrew word for 'hindermost' is acharith and here seems to mean 'last' but hindermost is a good translation. Some of the translations use 'least' but this is misleading because Babylon will be entirely destroyed according to Jeremiah 50,51 and never be a nation again. So 'least' would suggests continuance. Babylon is the last of the nations to come up. She is called the daughter of Babylon in Jer. 50:42; 51:33,35. The last of the nations will become a wilderness, a dry land and a desert. Many believe since America has come up last, she is this daughter of Babylon. This I also believe. The wildfires in America are from drought, suggesting she is already becoming a desert.

They do not believe in, "being Caught Up in the clouds', to join Jesus. Just keep that in mind.

I mean no harm, but if you don't believe in the resurrection, it kinda makes you a Sadducee (sad you see).

There are excellent Christian Radio ministry programs on FM radio. I'd listen to that all night rather than watch people who refuse to believe in the (Rapture) or, Caught Up, of Christian believers....of every single word that Jesus and his Apostles, taught

Word for word from the Bible.

Search your heart. I did.

Christ, thanks so much for answering my questions and leaving no doubt in my mind that my suspicions were correct. I look forward to any posts you may have in the future as I continue to check out this site. Strange days we live in isn't it? I have one more question for you. The mystery called the Rapture. I have this understanding by reading the Bible that God does not let the righteous suffer with the wicked when he is the one who brings down Judgement. There are many Doctors of Theology that disagree on the "rescue of the church" Some believe in a Pre-Trib rescue, Mid-Trib rescue and then there is the Post-Trib rescue. What I look at about this matter is what God told Abraham before he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. He will not let the righteous suffer with the wicked. When I see Theologians debate these theories I never see them refer to the discussion Abraham had with God before he destroyed Sodom, Gomorrah and the other three cities of the plains. We know tribulation is coming, Jesus said himself that only his Father in heaven knows when he will tell Jesus when to come to get the bride (church) I know since Christ sacrificed himself, many Christians have died for the cause of Christ but that is different than God bringing down the hammer. What are your thoughts on what is called the Rapture? this Tribulation period not only is God bringing down the hammer but we read there is a war in heaven. Michael and his Angels are fighting the devil and his fallen angels and they are cast to the earth and we read the devil is furious so not only do you have Satan doing what he will do, but also God punishing mankind for their evil. What is your take on this? Thanks and I hope I am not bothering you by asking you these many questions.

As far as the bloodline of Cain, both him and Abel are listed in the generations of the heavens and the earth, and not with the generations of Adam, which, like you said, begins with Seth. Cain is given his own generational line. My pastor said that women can have twins from two different fathers and I checked it out and science says it can happen. That could explain an answer for Cain being the son of Satan and Abel being the son of Adam. I know that my family genealogy does not randomly put my two uncles in different genealogies because one is a murderer and the other was murdered. Why wouldn't they be listed under the generations of Adam like Seth is if they were Adam's children? And then Cain and Seth have two different generation lines. It makes sense to me only if they are two different seed lines, other wise what's the need?

Anyway, my pastor says that the reason Satan aimed his sights at the seduction of eve was two fold. It accomplished Adam to first partake in sin, getting him kicked out of eden, and then it disrupted the seed line that the Messiah would now need to come from, which is what Seth became.

My Pastor may be mistaken concerning all of this, but I think he is correct because I don't see how all the terminology relating to seduction, seed, birth pangs, separated genealogies, two fathers, and all other scripture relating to it points to something else or is because of eating forbidden fruit.

Plus, Jesus Christ is coming back looking for us to be chaste virgins. This can't be literal, so I think it relates to apostasy and idolatry which is the Spiritual version of being unfaithful to God, like adultery is for man and woman between each other. Do you see how it all seems to come full circle?

Plus if you look the giants survived the flood because it says "also after that" which as far as I see relates to being after the time of the flood of Noah. And I don't think a flood can kill angels. It was sent to get rid of the hybrid giants and evil man.

Mishael,

Thanks for your comments, questions and suggestions.

I believe that Abel brought a blood sacrifice because he was a "keeper of sheep" and Cain brought an offering "of the fruit of the ground" because he was a "tiller of the ground." The difference between the two offerings was that Abel brought his offering of the "firstlings of his flock, and of the fat thereof" while Cain's offering was common "fruit of the ground." Abel cared deeply about his offering to his Father and Cain cared less. I don't think blood sacrifice was set up by God for mankind for remission of sins at that time.

I think that Cain received a curse from God as a result of murdering Abel, not his disrespectful offering to God.

I am not sure if the thought that Eve and Adam were seduced by Satan is entirely an imagined thing because the NT says that Eve was beguiled, and that word in Greek means "wholly seduced." That means Adam was also, and the reason homosexuality began then also. And I guess the question might need to be asked is why Adam and Eve eating an apple would result in them being ashamed of their nakedness, or need clothes for covering their private parts, or separation of seed, or increasing birth pangs? To me, it seems to all add up and make sense.

If the tree of the knowledge of good and evil bringing forth literal fruit that is both good and evil, and this is all Satan has to work with, how hard would it be to resist him? It looks like Satan beguiles Eve with the subtle twisting of the words of God, and probably not a piece of fruit. That's just what seems to make sense to me.

It might be that Eve was tempted with the ability to "as gods" become closer to God, and this closeness would be a result of experiencing this thing called "evil" the her and Adam were unaware of. I believe that Satan was the most beautiful creature Eve had ever seen, and it made seduction easier.

My prayer is that the lord will watch over me and keep me safe from the devil, that god will protect my body mind spirit and soul.

Lord also that you will help me to manage life, and to be a godly woman and that you will keep me as i get older.

Amen.

When I was young, we Painted each other with washable paint,

Sang " all you need is love", by the Beatles and played frisbee.

Then everyone went swimming. It was fun.

Nowadays people burn stuff, shoot at the cops...wind up in the hospital with the virus.

Jesus could come back tonight when the rioters are in the street; AND they will not be caught up in the clouds with Jesus; no matter how many times they've gotten "saved".

They will be Left Behind with an Antichrist who will have them gunned down on the spot. He hates everybody and demonstrates it every single day. He will hang decapitated heads on college gates to discourage rioting.

Everybody Google the riots at Kent State College, in the 1960's, by the students. They were not using rubber bullets.

Richard, thanks for your response. I appreciate the feedback I have received from Chris and yourself. I mean, I have been to several different churches in various states from when I was a soldier and afterward. I have never doubted people on television who preach, or churches I have walked into looking for spiritual guidance. What amazes me during my Christian walk is you can have two learned men, Doctors of Theology and yet disagree on the meaning of the same text!! What is the average dude like myself to do in a dilemma like that? I have come to a point now where I actually sit down and not just read the Bible, but study it and I get angry that I did not do it sooner. When I ask Chris about certain things that have bothered me and my suspicions are confirmed I think.....man, I have wasted years listening to these folks. I mean I was young but it led to adulthood where I should have wised up and did my research like Christ tells us to. It's my fault for being a little gullible and I should have been reading the Bible and studying it.

The most loving thing to do, is to plow that barren field, with the sacrifice of prayer.

Jesus taught parables about farming, to farmers! :) (Also fishermen, tax collectors, etc.)

With sweat and tired muscles, one must plow a field, remove the rocks; and make the field ready to sow seeds (of kindness).

Glean you're scriptures to pray for this neighbor from that. In the righteousness of Jesus, your Savior: command Satan and his demonic workers to "get the hence", from your neighbors life. Go into outer darkness!

"This field, I claim the harvest for Jesus Christ." Do some study on faith scriptures (see your Bible dictionary)

Release prayers of the love of God and Christ, toward your neighbor. Pray to the Lord of the Harvest, to set up a meeting.

Take a package of good, store wrapped cookies (so they will not refuse food from someone they didn't trust previously)

Ask God if He can send an angel over there to bring the neighbor outside. Walk over, saying I cover this meeting with the blood of Jesus; under your breath.

Then just inquire how your neighbor has been coping with sheltering at home so much? Or, I was thinking about how you are doing? I bought myself some cookies and thought I would bring you some too.

You've plowed, sown the seed and chased out the crows...And rained the love of God on your neighbor. You have fully extended the love of Jesus by your work. Expect the harvest. Even if it's not this day, it will happen soon. Let your faith and continued prayers grow.

I pray in Jesus name, that your love will be rewarded... with a new friend.

Mishael

Just like the lost sheep, always trying to make up excuses to do things their way instead of God's way! Tatoos are nasty looking carvings! Look to the old days as why they did them!!!

Genesis 4:16-26

Is Cains' genealogy. It ends with Seths birth.

The bloodline of people that eventually would give birth to the Son of Man, Jesus; came through Seths branch of the Geneology.

Reading genealogies in the Bible truly tells a story that is often missed. Generally women were not recorded, unless their story intertwined with Jesus's story.

You can Google Charts of Abraham's genealogy ( which was made from the Bible); Jesus's, and others. They generally follow after the story of someone's life ends, in the Bible.

Enoch was born through Cains history. He walked with God; one day God must've said, you come home with Me today. Enoch did not die. That's why people think he will be one of the Two Witnesses.

I lean more towards, "The Law and the Prophets" of the Old Testament: which would be Moses and Elijah. But I could be wrong too. The whole world will see them on the Internet.

Mishael

RE: John 3 verses 3 and 5. I am confused. Verse 3 you must be born again to enter the kingdom of God.

Verse 5 you must be born of water AND of the spirit.

3: Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

5: Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

QUESTION: If a person is born again of the spirit ONLY and not of water he/she CANNOT enter the kingdom of God?

Adam or rather Yet Eve broke the 1st Law That God commanded thou shalt not eat of it. So Adam had to eat of it to be with his wife (type of jesus)for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Gen.2:16-17

He eat of it and died a spiritual death that day and was stripped of his Glory coat and the eyes of them both were opened and they knew that they were naked Gen 3:7

And God judged satan and judged Eve and He judged Adam.

And gives the promise of the Seed (jesus) Genesis 3:15

Then God starts to give providence of the seed jesus unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God made coats of skins and clothed them. Genesis 3:21

The passover lamb jesus

God said in the day you eat of it you will surely die. But that day they did not die But what died that day? A Lamb died a innocent lamb that had done nothing Blood was shed and his skin take off for a covering for Adam and Eve.

The Innocent dying so the Guilty could Live The Cross

They were sentenced to death But a Lamb dies in stead of Adam and eve like. Genesis 22:13

Or we could say they died that day Because one day is with the Lord as a thousand years and no man lived a thousand years 2 Peter 3:8

But I prefer The Passover Lamb Jesus

Thank you for debating the Word of God with me I love the word of God and learning about Jesus may God bless you and your family always. A sinner saved by Grace

Matthew 5:14-16

New International Version

14 "You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. 16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven

John 5:35

"He was a burning and a shining light: and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his light."

John 5:36

"But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me."

That's why we have the first Commandment then the second commandment so don't love anyone more than God.

Because we didn't come from Cain but from Seth.

Luke 23:34

Luke 23:34

You will almost always find the verse that you're looking for with a Google search :)

I have thought the same thing. For God so loved the world he gave his only Son and whosoever believes in him shall not parish but have ever lasting life and the way I see it is that if you are a true believer then you will want to obey Gods Commandments and everything else just falls into place or at least it does for me. Amen

After reading Earl's reply, Christ does things for mankind ,while at the same time the house of Israel. How his work and word are eternal . How the book of revelation also is a work in progress, now and forever until Christ returns! Too comprehend His return and how and when, are indeed are what we all look for! It will happen with some of us sooner than others. When our flesh gives up the ghost we will most certainly see Him as He is, according to the spirit that lives in us! The scripture is the light of the truths we who hope in Him speak! the voice of angels.

On HOMOSEXUALITY, SAN FRANCISCO AND GOD"S JUDGMENT

A Gallup pole of the 50 largest Metropolitan area's in the U.S. found that 6.2% of San Franciscans identify as LGBT; which is 2.6% higher than the national average. The survey was conducted between June 2012 and December 2014. The question now is: Would God be able to locate 10 people that are righteous in His eyes ( Gen. 18:32)? We are afraid not, and please remember: he that is 'spiritual' judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).

We have served the true and living God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob since 1984 and during those days have learned that this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9), and that it is a narrow road that leadeth unto 'Life' and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14). Also, that mankind prefers darkness over light ( John 3:19), as they serve after an image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Rev. 12:9).

It should be remembered that God's judgment will always prevail and therefore our message remains the same: Ye must Repent.

You can learn more about our Ministry in Christ by Googling our 'Names' or the article "False Apostles and False Christs' or 'A World Deceived'. There is also a 'Contact' page for further communication. We invite you to review the 'Letter of Introduction' posted on the 'Introduction' page of the website. It highlights some of our work. Please note that our website was visited last year by people from over 160 countries. There are a total of 193 countries throughout the world plus the Vatican and Palestine that are listed as observer states.

It should be noted that in over 36 years of service we have never collected/received, solicited or requested donations. The gift of 'Life' was freely given and freely do we give to all those that believe ( 2 Kings 5:16; Matthew 6:26; 10:8).

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada

On JOB 42:6

The Word of God is God ( John 1:1) and is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20).

The word 'Repent' in different forms (repent, repentance, repented, repentest, repenteth, repenting, repentings) is mentioned 110 times in the KJV, and means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. The word 'repent' used in the New Testament was translated from the Greek word "metanoeo", and means to change, transform, to think differently or reconsider.

It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).

For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9) and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( Matthew 7:7; John 14:17).

You need not that any man teach you ( Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), as mankind follows after an image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Rev. 12:9).

It is only by revelation of God that people will come to know the true Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1), and only then will you be able to overcome the spirit of this world ( 1 John 5:4; Rev. 3:21) and learn what 'True Repentance' means, and how this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9). It should also be remembered that it is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14).

LUKE 15:10. LIKEWISE, I SAY UNTO YOU, THERE IS JOY IN THE PRESENCE OF THE ANGELS OF GOD OVER ONE SINNER THAT REPENTETH.

To SANDRA

Please read Numbers 14:30,31; 15:30; 26:65; 32:12 and you will learn that the children that crossed the Jordan were the children of the new generation.

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada

please keep me in your prayers today

You need to get a Bible With center of page Reference Columns (tiny alphabet letters). It gives you additional information about each scripture that has one or more.

Abel brought a BLOOD sacrifice to God. (For without the shedding of blood there is no remission for sin).

Cain didn't think about that. He had PRIDE in his offering and felt that was good enough for God. He disrespected God. God rejected his offering and as a result Cain was cursed.

Cains response is to murder Abel.

Adam and Eve were married by God. God performed the first marriage. All Hebrew marriages after that were performed the same way.

Leaves were their idea of quick clothing. Adam knew they had sinned by eating the fruit. It has nothing to do with what someone imagined that Eve (a married woman) did with Satan. He tempted her with food and then power. The very same way he tried to tempt the Lord, Jesus Christ; after 40 days of fasting.

There is no scripture that says Eve and Satan had relations. Adam was heartbroken that Eve had eaten of the fruit and he took a bite because he loved her; he didn't want to be separated from her.

First thing God does is curse Satan. Then He prophesies a future day (at the cross) Genesis 3:15 about her seed: Jesus, bruising satans head.

Then came the prophesy that she and all women would suffer in childbirth.

Back to Cain: Jesus's bloodline DID NOT come through Cain. Eve had another son named SETH, with Adam. By all means go Google a genealogy chart on Jesus so you can see it with your eyes. His bloodline is in the Bible Also. Your Pastor was mistaken.

We, as Gods children bear a solemn responsibility to verify every scripture ourselves, from the KJV Bible...that the Pastor issued on the teaching. If we don't read scriptures slow, and look up all those Center Of Each Page Reference Columns; we may miss out on a gem of Truth.

Take another look at it and tell me what you think.

Mishael

Tom, I don't own the KJV by Thomas Nelson, but was able to download a NKJV by Nelson to have a peek in it. In that one, Gen 1:2 does show the Spirit with a capital 'S'.