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Please pray for my family, that the Lord will heal us after so much pain. Please pray for those I cherish with their battle against drugs. Thank you for your prayers.

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Thanks for your response as well. I don't know if you ever experienced one of these Pastors that teach this but I know two. I stopped attending that church so I have no idea if that man still teaches it. There is another Pastor that came to the town I live in and approached me during a High School Football game I was attending. (Its my childrens school and we go to every home game) he started to prophesize to me and said some really nice things so I was flattered and accepted his invitation to attend his church. I was pretty excited nobody ever approached me before in public and started to prophesize to me. I attended and it was a very charismatic church, speaking in tongues, etc. I came to understand by speaking with the Pastor that he was waiting for a kidney transplant and he explained to me that the church he had attended down in West Virginia was having a fasting contest and he had not eaten or drank for days and he was taking aleve to ease his pain from not eating and destroyed his receptors on his kidneys. I thought to myself this guy isn't very smart because most know you don't do that, 2nd, he was cheating anyway by taking something to ease the pain....which defeats the purpose because fasting is denying the flesh but if you take drugs to ease the painful effects of fasting, then why fast at all? Then I thought, he must also not know scripture because when you fast, you are not to let anyone know. I mean what kind of church has a fasting contest? I started to get a bad feeling about this Pastor and I asked him one day what Bible college he went to or if he had any Pastoral training. He said he attended Bible college for one day and quit. The last straw however was when he was up there preaching and made a comment that some people who want to be healed are not healed because they don't believe enough. So here is a man who is waiting on a kidney transplant because he did something really stupid and then has the nerve to tell others that!

Yes, I am glad you mentioned Paul because when I would question a Pastor about Tongues, etc. I would have that particular verse thrown at me. When I would read it though, I see something different. I look at what Paul was saying here as ....what is the word.....hyperbole! such as if Paul was writing a letter to a church in our time and wrote something like this.......If I could run 200 miles without stopping and then leap a tall building in a single bound but not love people It amounts to nothing. If I was a NFL superstar and have achieved all the awards and in the Hall of Fame but don't love people, It is worthless. All my success, all my fame, all my accomplishments, good works are nothing without doing it out of love. Does that seem like the proper understanding of this verse?

I am a believer since I was 14 years old have been like the prodigal son in some of my walk with him. In it all he has always been merciful and awesome. We are loved by him more than we can ever comprehend. We were made by him, for him and should live through him. He is the beginning and the end. Anything we learn or go through is but a glimpse of what he intended for us to go through. Remember no other name is given than the name of Jesus Christ for salvation is only found in him. He is love beyond measure, he has forgiven us, he did the hard work by dying for us in the cross and resurrecting on the 3rd day. He left to prepare a place for us. All the law and prophets are surmised in these two commandments. Love God with all your heart, soul, and strength. Then love your neighbor as yourself. By their fruits he shall know them. Let his light shine through us in this dark world. We are to show his glory to the world, so they can come to him. Love you guys keep on keeping on. The end is near let us watch and have our lamps full of oil.

what does the grinding means in the scripture, two women shall be grinding together, what does this mean, please explain this to me, two men in bed together, what does this mean?

What is the meaning of jonah beinginng mad if god is the most high and doing right

I have to ask these questions because I wonder, am I the only one out there that thinks these things? I mean, I was 15 when I came to know Christ in this one foster home where the people who took me in temporarily, called themselves Christians. Out of all the families I had lived with, this was the most peaceful and loving home I had ever experienced. Back then, I believed in the God of the Bible, but I did not know of the significance of Jesus. I had no understanding of who he actually is. The foster mom taught me and explained it to me as she showed me the Bible. Suddenly it was like a light came on and I knew. I knew I needed him to save me. I prayed with her and I became converted. My whole attitude towards the world changed. I no longer hated the world and wanted to destroy all that I saw as I ran around in the night creating mischief. It totally changed my outlook. Of course I was only there temporarily until they could place me in a larger youth home. After I left them I read my Bible daily, but as time wore on, the fights and the violence at this youth home and no contact with people who knew the "truth" I started to become what I was; however, I could not ignore the truth! I became miserable and when I finally left that youth home and no longer a ward of the court, I started to attend church, I am told "if you are not speaking in tongues you are not saved", turn on the TV preachers and they are speaking in tongues and healing the sick, etc and then I would wonder if there is something wrong with me because I don't. My problem then was reading my Bible as a study, not just reading. Not seeking to find out the meaning of what the text was saying. Just listening to people on TV or preachers who have not really been trained to teach. I was so confused because my gut told me something is not right. Also in the back of my mind is the first warning from Jesus was to beware of deception. I mean who am i to doubt that preacher on TV?

Thank you Chris!

"For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace". Christ enters Jerusalem, enters the temple, and begins his final act of cleansing it. Throwing out money changers, that bought and sold, that made His house a house of merchandise. Not unlike the cleansing that takes place when we open the door to the temple of our hearts. Christ comes in and takes His place eliminating all sin that is within us! The scribes and pharisees ask Christ by what authority He does these things? Christ reminds them of John the Baptist! Christ asks them about The baptism of John, if it were of heaven or of men? How wonderful is His word, He reminds us of the baptism of John! While he convicts the leaders of the church of sin,at the same time reminding us of our baptism that it comes from heaven and not of men!

The month Sivan is the third month of the Jewish calendar & usually begins in late May or early June.

Amen. Well written - very true - we should all take in its richness & vitality for our lives, making it the very foundation for our thoughts & actions.

Jehova said to my Lord, should we not forget that GOD is GOD all by Himself, not by them self but rather Himself- meaning one GOD. HE is always One, however He is the Mysterious ONE. who choose to Present or Manifest Himself as Father Son and Holy Spirit. but is still the One LORD, who said to my LORD.

the way and the ways of God is not our way and ways. and the way and the ways of man kind is not the Lord way.

so we should come to the knowledge that many recorded information in the scripture are not for your comprehension

yours is just to believe.

Elvamae Greene

I don't want to upset any of you but from what I am reading in the comments alot of you are not getting it yet. I want to help Because I want very few tears to be streaming from my eyes that the lord will wipe away. Let me start with the judgement day. That great and terrible day! We all will be standing in like a court room but serprated, Goats from the sheep. You know your standing infront of the judge/God. You know what you did in your life. Youll see everyone you could have lead to the lord, but for some selfish reason like embarrassment or something you didnt, You failed to take your children to church, or just something like you didnt have the time. Well your standing there in the sheep side, the side that is going to heavan. You look over to your child or kids as you both are crying leaning forward crying for each other. Why daddy, whay mommy didnt you help me get to heaven??? as the tears fall from your eyes. This would be a very sickening time. You see your child condemned to hell forever and as you see this your enduring the most unimaginable. But its to late to do anything. I cant imagine this happening to anyone, its way to horrible. Dont be afaid to speak up in a crowd. Dont stop trying, On that great and terrible day you will see your loved ones in heavin rejoicing with you forever and ever. Take your friends, brothers, sisters, strangers and children with you to be with Jesus Christ forever and ever amen.

Please pray for me. I sucome to alcohol from time to time. Pray I remember God's work. Thank you

Please pray for my understanding and my faith. My faith has been wavering a bit, and I worry that my salvation may be lost because of this. Thank you, brothers and sisters who prayed for me. I greatly appreciate it and may God bless all of my brothers and sisters :)

What is considered as works? In James 2:14-26 it says that faith without works is dead. What can I do that's counted as works? If this is already told in the Bible, then please tell me the verses. I have not read the entire Bible yet.

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I also share your concern for those with the Gift of Healing. Again, I think the same principles of care & concern needs to be adopted. Especially, on the mission field where God's servants are labouring under very difficult spiritual environments where Satan has a firm grip, the moving of the Spirit in areas of healing & miracles can be seen as testimony of the Power of God & thus openness to the Gospel. Your example of Timothy's stomach & other infirmities, as well as Paul himself who had a thorn in his flesh which he besought the Lord for healing three times ( 2 Cor 12:8) are good examples of the sudden apparent cessation of this important spiritual gift among believers.

I hope that some of these thoughts are useful to the end that we consider one another in godly love yet in gentleness reprove those that err from the Truth & set them on the right path.

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Yet, I don't hold as some do, that all the Gifts (at least those such as Tongues, Healing & Miracles) have ceased. 1 Cor 13:8-10 is usually given in support that all these are no more since "that which is perfect comes": probably they're referring to the complete Word of God or the full establishment of Christ's Church when those 'spectacular' Gifts are no longer warranted. I'm not convinced about such a stance as I just don't have enough from the Word to support this. The verse could well speak of what we know & do "in part" now will one day in the future be fully known when there will be no further need of such manifestations. I do admit that we see a lot of false proofs, but can we say with all certainty that the Spirit has ceased altogether in His demonstration of His Power to the Church & the World? Some have even attributed these manifestations to the work of the Devil; this is very sad & grievous as the caution for 'blaspheming' e.g. Mt 12:31, is when some applied the works of the Holy Spirit of God to Satan. Apart from one example that I heard of, where an actual unlearned language was spoken for the blessing of the Church, but the brother was soon pulled back down as there was in their midst one who actually spoke & understood that language. The message was satanic which blasphemed the Deity rather than glorifying him. But we need to take care as to how we view such manifestations & also in understanding the Scriptures.

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Those are great observations Spike4187. Indeed, the 'other tongues' referred to in the Bible were known languages, but unlearned by the speaker. We need to bear in mind that the initial pouring out of spiritual gifts (from Pentecost to the early Church) was essentially for signs to unbelievers & for the establishment of this new Church: 1 Cor 14:21-22, "In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe."

It seems clear that the Gift of other Tongues was for a purpose & not to be regarded as a criterion for proof of regeneration as is sometimes taught & believed. Even if that gift, which was for the convincing of the unbelievers, continued (as seen within the Churches), then there was teaching for how it was performed. 1 Cor 14:12-28 speaks about this. If the Spirit prompted one to give a word of exhortation in 'another tongue', it is clear that the Spirit will alert the one who is gifted with it or with the gift of 'Interpretation', to shed light & meaning. And yes, 'tongues' were always a language & not babble; saying that the 'babble' may be a now defunct language or a heavenly language, doesn't hold water with Scripture. Then 1 Cor 13:1 may be quoted by them: "tongues of men & angels" in support: yet Paul is illustrating that even if he had the ability to speak in earthly & heavenly languages, if love was not evident, there was no profit to having any or all the Gifts.

it is a reminder to us that when we do bad things or sin against the Lord, we will not alone suffer the consequence of our actions, people who are close to us will also suffer. That is the penalty of our sin.

The person who did the sin will not suffer alone, but also the people around him will suffer.

It is to remind a person the weight of his sin and for him to think carefully of the action he will do.

please pray for me

I put in a request for the meaning of 561 but have had no reply

If you can't find anything on your question; consider this:

2 Thessalonians Chapter 2

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

(Mishael). If this is from the Lord, it will be confirmed in Scripture, or by 2-3 witnesses.

In the meantime, I would let it go. God will confirm His Word. No confirmation=lying wonder.

To Ed George

This is a comment that someone wrote in regards to Big Pharmacy and marijuana.

When you think about it....Big Pharmacy does provide America with enough opioids to kill a planet. I see the point. What do you think?

> commenter unknown. WRONG! Your research is ancient and full of old prohibition deception. Sounds like you're a religious pharisee and definitely a legalistic. Not all who say Lord Lord. You can twist and pull scripture out of context all day long. Once pulled out of context, becomes a pre-text. Doesn't work. There is freedom in grace. Not to be taken lightly of course. Our motives determine everything. I don't agree with recreational, however medical has saved the many from harmful pharmaceuticals something I'm sure your on the payroll for so of course you are going to claim cannabis is oh so dangerous. Big pharma is dangerous and deceitful beyond measure. Big pharma happens to be one of the biggest opponents of cannabis along with alcohol and tobacco. That sure says a lot.

In Scripture we are to obey Gods precepts. There is nothing there regarding cannabis except to say do all things in moderation. As well don't offend your weaker brother. Again.. stop twisting scripture to suit those who keep your bank account full Big Pharma.

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Mishael comment: I had 2 little brothers die from long term drug use. My view is rather harsh. Maybe we should talk about this?

No. But a good thought. I don't know who did it but I think it is a good thing to do.

Some get this wrong : upon this rock. He is talking about Himself. He's the rock not Peter.

The arch angel sounded the arrival of Jesus. Jesus didn't blow no horn. Jesus is no angel.

No. no, no no.

The arch angel sounded the arrival of Jesus. Jesus didn't blow no horn. Jesus is no angel.