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Mathew 3:17 reads, "And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." In Genesis the writer indicates that God thinks that what He has accomplished is good, but in this verse of the book of Mathew and in no where else in the bible does God speak and say He is well pleased. Is that true?

Hi there,

In answer to your question, I can only say what I've learned so far. Firstly, that the spirit you were born with remains your spirit and stays with you. But when you become born again, your spirit gets 'upgraded', in that Jesus gets connected to it, and through Him (as He's got connections in High Places), the Holy Spirit (after you get baptised) also dwells with you in your spirit.

So, having two spirits is actually:

1. Your own spirit that is connected with Jesus and,

2. The Holy Spirit.

The goal of the believer is to strive to be the kind of person that God needs you to be, because once His Holy Spirit lives in you, your body and soul become His 'Temple' in a sense, so you need to get it to be holy. God knows that when we start out with Him we're a mess, but His grace is so great that He puts up with all that while we learn and renew our minds to His ways of being - learning to love and forgive etc.

A person's spirit is eternal, so that should never perish after this life. There are only 3 options regarding what happens after this life for a person:

Heaven, hell or reincarnation.

Hell is reserved for the very wicked only.

Your (good but unsaved) 'average Joe' would simply be reincarnated and get another shot at bettering himself in his next life, and hopefully finding salvation this time.

If a person is born again and has a real relationship with God (they'll know it if they do!), they should be able to confidently believe they'll go to heaven as long as they've been faithful to God and have lived a life that's pleasing to Him, and have not rebelled against Him. God is a faithful God, and they'd experience that with Him. If He's faithful in this life, why wouldn't He be faithful in the next? It also says somewhere in the Old Testament that there is a special place in heaven which is guarded by God, in which are preserved the souls of His saved, and has gates - which Christians refer to as 'the pearly gates'. I believe this. See next comment.

Earl, thanks for your response.

If you believe it's impossible for a Christian to sin, does that mean tonight your or I can commit any sin we'd like and it wouldn't be sin? I'm a Christian and just like Paul have struggles of the flesh and part of me would really like to commit a fleshly sin tonight. Is your belief that I can proceed to do that and not be sinning? What if I do the same tomorrow and the next day for the rest of my life and add more sins too, do you truly believe there be no consequence? At what point does a Christian suddenly become 'was never a Christian'?

Did you hover over any of the verses above and do you feel they are consistent with what you're saying here, like Hebrews 10:26?

Adam, it is not possible for us (carnal man) to not sin. When you are born of the Spirit you no longer have a carnal mind, but you are given (graced) with the mind of Christ. This grace was bestowed on us by the power of the resurrection. Coming to this truth takes hundreds and hundreds of hours in Gods word and the gracing of the Holy Spirit. I John 3:8-9 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested (revealed), that he (Christ) might destroy the works of the devil (carnal mind). Whosoever is born of God doth not sin; because his (Christ) seed remaineth in him: and he (child of the resurrection, birthed by the woman: Revelation 12:1) cannot sin, because he is born of God. Philippians 2:5-6 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: (vs) 6 Who, being in the form (image of God) thought it not robbery to be equal with God: John 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought to kill him, because he not only healed on the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father (who is your Father) making himself equal with God. Does God sin. Ephesians: 4:13 Till we all come into the unity of the faith (Christ), and or the knowledge (mind of Christ) of the Son of God, unto a perfect (mature) man, unto the measure of the fulness of Christ:

Truly I am not worthy

Dibro,

Right on!

Well presented.

The 10 Commandments are still fully in force.

Fred Scanlan,

Well spoken.

Love God, Love your neighbor

We all need to find more love, tolerance, and patience in our lives for others.

John 15:13

Bob Hilt,

Not sure if it is a fact that Sampson committed suicide.

Sampson was captured, chained, and had his eyes plucked out.

Could it not be said that he died in battle?

i beleve in the Lord Jesus Christ, healing power i ask that u pray for my son and daughter-in-law to keep them safe from the virus

luke 18:8 poses the question ," When the Son of man comes, will he find on this earth anyone of faith?

it seems to me that 2 Esdras 5:1 answers this question:

"Nevertheless as coming the tokens, behold, the days shall come , that they which dwell upon earth shall be taken in great number, and the way of truth shall be hidden , and the land shall be barren of faith.

it seems like that last days will be a very dark time. Not many people will have any type of faith of knowledge of biblical teachings. It seems to me , that when this occurs, the arrival of the son of man, Jesus, will be close at hand.

there seems to be no comment on this scripture anywhere that I can find. I am speaking of Luke 18:8. what do you think or believe on this

Hi Joshua,

Do you believe that Christians physically cannot deny Christ? If so, do you think that God denies them their freewill?

Are you a Christian currently? If so, if you chose to deny Christ, would that mean you were somehow never a Christian?

So, what do you think qualifies someone to be a Christian then? If someone prays and asks for forgiveness and says he believes Jesus is the son of God and is Lord and wants to follow him and is baptized is that enough?

Christians turn from the faith and deny Christ too often, so all these Christians were never Christians? by the Bible's standards or someone else's? Can anyone be certain they're a true Christian then, because you don't know what you'll say or do in the future, right?

Look at the context of this verse. The one sin that won't be forgiven is to blaspheme against the Holy Spirit. Right before Jesus said this, he said that those who deny Him (Jesus) before men will be denied eternal life. To deny Jesus is to blaspheme against the Holy Spirit, and that sin will not be forgiven.

If we deny Christ, we were never saved to begin with, and we are denied eternal life.

"For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it." Luke 9:24, Matt 16.25, Mark 8:35, Luke 17:33

To FRED SCANLAN

Also, please read Zechariah 7::11 and Hebrews 12:25.

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

Greetings from Nova Scotia.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg

To FRED SCANLAN

Please consider the following, as you refuse to accept God's 'Life' giving message ( John 18:37).

God unites His people (the believers) by His Spirit ( John 4:24; Eph. 4:3-6,13).



Luke 9:56. For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.

Matthew 11:6. And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me ( Isa. 8:14; Matthew 13:57; 24:10; 26:31; Rom. 9:32; 1 Cor. 1:23; 2:14; Gal. 5:11; 1 Peter 2:8).

John 3:19. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

Luke 11:22. But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.

1 John 4:4-6. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he than is in the world. They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice ( John 8:47; 18:37).

You search the scriptures for in them ye think that ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life ( John 5:39,40).

He that is spiritual judgeth (discerneth) all things, yet he himself is judged by no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).

There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true ( Proverbs 1:7; 10:8,21; 12:15; 13:20; 14:9; 16:22; 18:2; 20:3; 29:11; Luke 18:10-14; Cor. 1:20; 2:14; 15:36).

We regret that you are not able to understand any of the above ( 1 Cor. 2:14; 2 Cor. 7:10). Notwithstanding: Seek and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

Don't let your self-righteousness stand in the way of your salvation ( Romans 10:2-4).

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg

We as Christians don't die we only sleep in the lord. He gave back this His conquest of Satan to us.

Great reply brother. I don't find your examples strange at all. They are perfect. Just as you stated that there are countless things that go on in our everyday lives. That the Ten Commandments may not shed light on. As bringing up examples or "parables", just as Jesus did, helps people understand which way is the right way. It truly is a help to other people that may not understand things in the Bible.

One thing I wanted to share with you is last night it came to me to check a couple passages and put them to the Ten Commandments. In Mark 7:21-23 where Jesus is teaching about evil thoughts from within that "defile a person". The other is Galatians 5:19-23 where Paul states of the "works of the flesh" and "fruit if the Holy Spirit". With these two lists you can match up all the Ten Commandments. The seven of things to veer away from and the three things that God wants us to do. Just looking at those two list there is much more detailed information of things to repent from and things to seek after or focus on. Like you stated about many examples, there still are more things than just those written. Also just another guideline, to help us, from the Lord.

It is so true that we will be faced with things, in this life, that no person has spoken of. Or is written about. It is also true that not everyone is to be Blessed to receive the Holy Spirit in this life. As the Comforter and teacher for us from the Lord. I still believe God to be in all of us as He knows everything about everyone. It is truly a great treasure, and gift, to have the Spirit of Christ reside in us. A wonderful teaching, as all are, of Jesus Christ is Luke 6:27-38. Also the simple but "golden" rule of "Do unto others as you would want them to do to you."

Hope you have a great weekend Chris. God Bless my brother.

My Commants to Earl Bowman thank you and GBU

Hi Earl,

I believe the opposite of what you stated, because of what I see in the scriptures. God forgiving our sin and cleaning us is different than claiming someone cannot sin- that it's impossible. That's a logical leap into a whole different territory in which there's a mountain of scripture warning us against sin (including Christians) and no scriptures saying it's impossible for us to sin. It's also different than God 'not seeing sin' due to grace covering us as long as we're following Christ (a Christian). The old testament verses above do not mean someone cannot sin. If no one can sin, what's the point of asking for forgiveness? If no one can sin, what's the point of avoiding sin and striving to be perfect like Jesus said? If no one can sin, what's the point of spreading the gospel? If no one can sin, then you can ignore the Bible and just follow the world and do whatever sin you want with no consequence? The Bible already said that's not the case. Paul wrote about his fleshly struggles to sin- if there was no sin would it make sense that he would write that? If no sin, does that mean you can't blaspheme the holy spirit, either? Why would Jesus preach and challenge his followers with all these instructions if they couldn't sin and their actions were irrelevant. Satan is the father of lies and one of these teachings is truth and one is a lie. They are not both true. So, if satan was going to deceive someone is it likely they would deceive someone into being 'gooder' than they need to be or to be 'badder'- to convince them it's ok to sin, that you will surely 'not' be punished for it. To me that sounds like the same being behind the 1st temptation in the garden of eden- the father of lies is always not far away from any false teaching. Once saved, always saved is another teaching people often distort in order to justify sinning and blaspheming against God.

Here's what the Bible actually says:

James 2:17

Romans 6:15

Hebrews 10:26

Rom 7:22

Matthew 7:21

John 14:15

Matt 5:13

Matthew 7:26-27

Eph 5:5-6

Rom 11:19-23

God bless...

Comments by Alex about the Woman in Rev 12 v 5. The law which came 430 yrs after the Abrahamic Covenent did not make void the PROMISE TO ABRAHAM. The Abrahamic Promise was multiplication, I will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven, This was the Only Promise that God made that he swore by his veryself. The Woman is the very best example of multiplication, Christ has sowed his seed in this WOMAN which is humanity,its her Child that is a baby Christ that is gona be multiplied as the Stars of Heaven Impling her Child are children meaning many . In the last days God is gonna turn the hearts of the FATHERS to the Children meaning the H.G PLURAL.Remember her Child, the manchild is gonna rule the whole world simply b/c he is gona be born in the hearts of humanity and this is how satan is gonna be destroyed by that GREAT PROMISE of multiplication of Christ seed, the words of the new covenant, the parable of the sower and his seed etc. His seed will bruise your head etc our carnal minds is satans head. In rev 12 we see that there is war in heaven meaning in our minds our spirits etc But the manchild wins he is the result of Christ seed etc We be the WOMAN.This 12 th chapter is solely multiplication of Christ seed, which are the children of the kingdom which fulfills the law. THIS WOMAN is like the Mona Lisa of the new covenant for us sinners, she is screaming we must be bornagain of an incoruptible seed then the law will be fulfilled by multiplcation of Christ seed etc. them that are born of God cannot sin, Whats so beautiful about this woman is she is HUMANITY, If i be lifted up i will draw ALL MAN UNTO ME. OK GBU

I can tell you've been watching Ray Comfort. What a bold evangelist for Christ.

Chris,

The Law was never set up to be followed by man perfectly. That is why atonement (through blood sacrifice) was introduced with and as a part of the Law.

The Law was established as guidelines for proper worship and proper living.

Paul taught in the Synagogues on the Sabbath well after Christ had died.

Peter observed Old Testament Health Laws well after Christ died.

Why would they still be following those Old Testament Laws if ALL LAW was fulfilled through the Grace of Jesus which was based upon His death on the cross?

Jesus is the only Person to have fulfilled ALL the requirements of the Law while He walked upon the earth.

The rest of us cannot!

The 10 Commandments, including the 4th Commandment, were made for man, "for all time."

Wouldn't that include the present time period?

Alex, you are correct, when we are born again we cannot sin because we believe the words that Christ has spoken. Ezekiel 36:24-27 For I (Christ) will take you (those born again) from among the heathen, and gather you out of all the countries, and will bring you into your land (kingdom of heaven, Christ in you). (vs) 25 Then will I (Christ in you) sprinkle clean water (baptism of Christ, baptism of Spirit, Christ in you) upon you, and ye shall be clean, from all your filthiness, and from all your idols ( works of your hands), will I (Christ) cleanse you. (vs) 26 A new heart (mind of Christ, the new heaven) also will I (Christs works, I am the potter you are the clay) give (grace) you, and a new Spirit (Christ in you) will I [Christ in You, ( I John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons or God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear [to you, the day of the Lord, today is the day harden not your heart (mind)] , we (children of the resurrection) shall be like him (Christ): and I will take away the stony heart (carnal mind, old heaven) out of your (carnal) flesh, and I will give (grace) you an heart (mind of Christ, new heaven) of (Spirit) flesh. (vs) 27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause (working of Christ, causing us to love our brothers, love our enemies,no sin) you to walk in my statutes (love all) and to keep my judgements (words), and do them. Psalms 92:4-6 For though Lord, hast made me glad through thy work: I will triumph in the works of thy hands. (vs) 5 O Lord, how great are thy works! and thy thoughts are very deep. (vs) 6 A brutish man (beast) knoweth not; neither doth a fool understand this. Psalms 64:4 Blessed is the man whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee.....

Whenever we become angry, it is one of several indicators that we are not letting go of our own will. There are several indicators that let us know when we haven't given ourselves completely over to Jesus. That we are operating in our own will, instead of God's. Anger is probably the most prevalent of these indicators but there are others. Such things as pride, envy, and worry. Each person must contemplate and discern their own indicators. Knowing the signs of being in our will, instead of God's will, can indeed lead us to where we need to be. Instead of looking at anger and other indicators that we identify, as being a spiritual defect, look at them as tools to use on our journey to become one with Christ.

please pray for Frank

Brother Chris,

At this point, you stated that you and I may not be making much headway in our discussion regarding the keeping of the 10 Commandments. I believe our discussion may still be beneficial to us, in ways that we may not realize at the moment. Also, it is possible others on this site may benefit from our discussion regarding this important issue.

I realize there is a large following of people/churches including antinomians, that attribute some of the apostle Paul's teachings to lessening or even more drastically eliminating the need to follow the 10 Commandments.

I hold the apostle Paul, as well as all of the other apostles that where chosen by Jesus in high esteem, but we should also acknowledge they were humans with the same weakness's as we have. Jesus is Perfect, and if there is a question such as we are discussing regarding the 10 Commandments, I will put my trust in following what Jesus said regarding this issue.

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

John 14:21 "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."

If believe, if we argue against keeping the commandments we argue with Jesus, I'm not willing to do that...ever.

God Bless

To ALEX

Your latest comment is after religious and man-made doctrines ( Isaiah 29:13; Col. 2:18; 1 Tim. 1:6,7; Titus 1:14) and not after Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Rev. 12:9).

The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God ( 1 Cor. 2:14), and we know that ye have not the love of God in you ( John 5:42). Therefore our message remains the same: Ye must repent and invite you to learn what it means. see message a few comments down.

He that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7)

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada

My words - My doctrine, my commandments.Abide in you - Not only are remembered, but are suffered to remain in you as a living principle, to regulate your affections and life.Practically and experimentally, if you adhere steadfastly to the doctrine which I have taught you, firmly believing my declarations, conscientiously obeying my precepts, and affectionately embracing and relying on my promises; ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

To ALEX

Please consider the following, as you refuse to accept God's 'Life' giving message ( John 18:37; Hebrews 12:25).

God unites His people (the believers) by His Spirit ( John 4:24; Eph. 4:3-6,13).



Luke 9:56. For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.

Matthew 11:6. And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me ( Isa. 8:14; Matthew 13:57; 24:10; 26:31; Rom. 9:32; 1 Cor. 1:23; 2:14; Gal. 5:11; 1 Peter 2:8).

John 3:19. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

Luke 11:22. But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.

1 John 4:4-6. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he than is in the world. They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice ( John 8:47; 18:37).

You search the scriptures for in them ye think that ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life ( John 5:39,40).

He that is spiritual judgeth (discerneth) all things, yet he himself is judged by no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).

There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true ( Proverbs 1:7; 10:8,21; 12:15; 13:20; 14:9; 16:22; 18:2; 20:3; 29:11; Luke 18:10-14; Cor. 1:20; 2:14; 15:36).

We regret that you are not able to understand any of the above ( 1 Cor. 2:14; 2 Cor. 7:10). Notwithstanding: Seek and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

Don't let your self-righteousness stand in the way of your salvation ( Romans 10:2-4).

In His Service.

Andy & Diane van den Berg

please pray for me I need financial breakthrough in my life.

The Ten Commandments apply today. The (just) are free from their condemnation. (2nd death)

God's (Moral Law) make the arrest

The Gospel sets us free.

Matt. 10:14 (example) Many trample the pearl of grace. Until they see God as a righteous judge,

For them Gods law commands their attention.

Luke 8:17 For nothing is secret that will not be revealed, nor anything hidden that will not be known & come to light.

Have you ever lied? hated? Lusted? Stole anything? Had sex out side of marriage. Wild imaginations?

What do you call someone who lies? What do you call someone who steals? What is someone called who uses Gods name as a cuss word?

Let's be legalistic. An empty stomach lust for food. Is that sin? Of course not. But

Jesus said whoever looks at another with lust (seizing them with wild imaginations) has already committed adultery with that person in their heart. Forget others, You're in big trouble.

Rev. 21:8 But the fearful, & unbelieving, & the abominable, & murderers, & whoremongers, & sorcerers,& idolaters, and ((all liars)) shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Now back to court....

Telling an honest judge in a court of law you're sorry won't set you free

and you can bet it won't work when we're summoned to stand the living God either.

The wage for our sin must be paid. ((Death))

The bible speaks of only two types of people.

The just and the unjust.

At our judgment reward will be given & taken away.

But God will throw the book at the unjust. (second death)

1 Cor. 15:1-4 Salvation in a nutshell

Acts 17:30-31 God calls all people to repent (turn from unbelief) & warns Christ will (Judge) the world!

Praise God earth is not home of those justified by the finished work of the cross!

The "Just" have been justified by the blood of the Lamb. We have confidence!

1 John 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have ((boldness)) in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world!