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We are all individuals and susceptible to sin's temptations in our own ways. No one is exempt whether man or women. Christian women may be susceptible in ways that unbelieving women are not. And Christian men may be susceptible in ways that unbelieving men are not. And visa-versa. Christian men may be susceptible in ways that Christian women are not. And visa-versa. I agree that we should not make sweeping generalizations and judgments about people we do not know well and personally.
I appreciate your commitment to having us treat one another with kindness and good intentions on here. I, too, share that commitment. Thanks again and be blessed.
I have been reading this thread. I do agree that women are impressionable. But men, too, are impressionable. We both are equally corrupted by the sinful nature. So I see that it does not serve a BIG purpose to single out women as susceptible to sin when Adam freely ate, being just as susceptible to sin. He was led into sin by Eve and Eve was led into sin by Satan. Since both gave into sin's temptations, does it matter who led them into sin? I think it could have easily been the other way around with Adam being deceived by Satan, eating first and then leading Eve into eating.
There have been many honorable women in the Bible. Hannah, Deborah, Ruth, Anna, Elizabeth, Mary, Mary Magdella, Salome, Martha, Lydia, Dorcus, Demaris, Phoebe are so named. Peter's mother opened her house to believers.
We should honor women and men who served the Lord well either in Scripture or in history, in our families and in our fellowships. The same should be for men who do the same.
in Christ there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave or free, male or female, but all are one in Christ Gal. 3:28.Every believer shouid submit to God and His doctrines taught in Scriptures, men and women alike.
I realize that you are emphasizing the Scriptural reason for women to submit to their husbands and not be in positions of pastors and teachers over men. You have made this point very clear so I do not think there is much reason to continue emphasizing it here unless you are looking for an argument.
I must say though that you are wrong to judge Jema's commitment to the Lord or level of spiritual maturity based on this conversation. You do not know her heart, only God does. And since, we are to speak to one another what we truly know is truth, then we should refrain from evaluate others relationship with the Lord unless someone is clearly advocating heresy, which she is not.
Jim Miller, I have enjoyed reading your posts and I encourage you to continue to post your ideas on topics here.
We also see Lebanon and the wicked in Israel described; likely part of the 2/3 perishing in chapter 13. (verses 1-4). The forest could symbolically represent people; also of course there will be literal burnings of one third of the trees in the Trumpet judgments. Verses 5 and 6 of course could be speaking of the Diaspora and mass starvation during the Roman invasion and massacre of AD 70. The king mentioned in verse 6 could be the final Antichrist. Verses 9-10 show destruction coming to the land; and Verse 11 shows how the poor understand about the covenant being broken. This would imply the new covenant under Christ perhaps with shades of Isaiah 61:1 with the Good News to the poor. Symbolic terms are used here for the old covenant (Beauty and bands). Of course we also see the prophetic 30 pieces of silver which is sarcastically mentioned as what was considered Christ's worth. The field of a potter was determined for "blood money" once Judas repented of what he did (which was to avoid consequences not to seek forgiveness from God Himself), He hung himself; and later his bowels fell out. (verse 12-13; Acts 1:18). We must keep in mind that later verses describe God dealing with Israel then judging the nations that attacked them at the end of the Book of Zechariah.
Clearly the final Antichrist is mentioned here as well as the injury to his right arm and eye. (verses 15-17). This is the "worthless shepherd" and reminds us of verses in John 5:43 of another coming in his own name who they will worship.
If I understand your question well you are asking why there is so much violence in the Bible including God's actions. Firstly for what people do God can not be held accountable for. But often people see a violent God, especially in the Old Testament, forgetting that God is a Judge who judges people and nations righteously. Sodom and Gommorah and surrounding villages were destroyed by God. People may see that as an action of violence by God. But how could God judge and punish those people? He didn't create mankind for people to go down the deepest sins ever existed. When the state/people is punishing criminals why is it surprising that God acts similarly? People want a righteous and mercyful God but them themselves are in no mood to be righteous and mercyful. They wish a God who loves them but they don't wish to love others. They wish a God who takes care of all people in our planet but them themselves don't care at all if people die of starvation in other places of the world. They actually wish a God who loves and takes care of all their needs while them themselves go down the deepest deapths of sin and devour all the others for their own benefit.
It is true that we don't have answers to every question but we can rely on that we believe in a rightous God who is determined to reward but also to punish. In the present time humanity enjoys the mercy and the grace of God who calls every single human to accept the gift of eternal salvation, it is free, we just have to accept it, so lets take advantage of that and go get the free gift of salvation that He offers before the door is closed. GBU
Here God is addressing man, "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." In the next verse it is to the beasts, 'every green herb for meat' which is to understood for what it is. God as the creator made everything beautiful in his time. (Ec.3:11). So he is not laying do's and dont's but perfect law of liberty in Christ is keep your conscience find its equipoise in him. It is immaterial if one chooses to be a vegan or not. "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ."( Col. 2:16). Let your moderation be known unto all men.
>Hahahaha nervous and impressionable ! Hahahaha , he's not met me or any woman I've ever met ! Thanks for that good giggle >:)
What hubris!
You underestimate your enemy! 1 Peter 5:8 (KJV) 8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."
Considering God is a Spirit and has a visible image in his Son, to embody His unseen qualities of holiness. This necessitates this curious expression. In his own image refers to Jesus Christ the visible image of the invisible God. ( Col. 1:15a) When the Spirit admonishes us, "Be ye holy, for I am holy" it is what the Word become flesh was. ""Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:"(1 Pe.2:22). At the end of his earthly ministry Jesus could say, " For the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me." ( John 14:30)
When he set an example how could anyone say he has faith but deny the works? Jesus explained what was the work of God that any man may do. "This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent." He also said "Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart."(Matt.11:29-30) Without taking his yoke and learning of him through straight and narrow what nonsense do we hear of left, right, liberal as though a Christian may run with hares and hunt with jackals? Faith must be wrought in God, and not in the many causes the children of wrath espouse. "But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God."( John 3:21;6:29) In his own image demands your total commitment so the glory of the knowledge in the face of our Savior we behold in our hearts and grow from glory to glory.
Male and female created he them. In case of Adam, Eve was already represented as in the Fellowship of God with Man we have our destinies embedded in the Man component. The deep sleep in Adam foreshadows the death and resurrection of the Son. The Spirit narrates the creation of a holy family in him. Adam is a double for Jesus Christ who of God has become wisdom.(1 Co.1:30) Wisdom is the feminine principle. Pr.9:1 "Of whose are we' (He.3:6)
How we react to the LORD'S pointing out our sins and iniquities will determine our future blessings in HIM.
Our nation is in dire need of the LORD'S wisdom. Let we who are saved and active in the work of our SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST be like Daniel and pray diligently and faithfully. Let us show the power of the LORD in everything we do in HIS name.
GOD to shine HIS face on all who are obedient and faithful to HIM. HIS glorious blessings are available to all who trust and obey in HIS word.
Praise the LORD for the faithfulness of the brethren on this forum.
September 20, 2023
I ask for strength for you all for He is faithful. They that wait upon the Lord!
Never give up, keep praying and seeking
His Kingdom. God bless you.
I ask all your needs be met, for yes He is a God of perfect Love. Trusting Him and waiting on Him through prayer, and does hear you. Stand strong in Him.
Each time you think of them, consider how God must think of them. I know we see their problems in the flesh realm, God sees
their hearts. Bless them in all they do Father, bless them towards the path of your wisdom, bless them with surely goodness and mercy shall follow them all the days of their lives. In Jesus name.
Yes, it's all Forhisnamesake.
The great tribulation ( Matthew 24:21)
The Day of the Lord ( Isaiah 2:12; 13:6-9; Joel 1:15; 2:1-31; 3:14; 1 Thessalonians 5:2)
Trouble or tribulation ( Deuteronomy 4:30)
The time of Jacob's troubles ( Jeremiah 30:7)
Toward the end of Daniel's life, he has a vision described in Daniel 12.
"At that time Michael shall stand up, the great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people; and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation, even to that time. And at that time your people shall be delivered, every one who is found written in the book. And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, some to shame and everlasting contempt. Those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament, and those who turn many to righteousness like the stars forever and ever."- Daniel 12:1-3
From this passage, we know that
Unprecedented, troubling times are on the way.
There will be some who will awake to "everlasting life."
There will be some who will awake to "shame and everlasting contempt."
Those who are wise will shine.
A further study of this passage and the 7-year tribulation reveals more about the troubling times and who will awake to everlasting life and who will awake to everlasting contempt.
Everlasting life is given by those who trust in Jesus for their salvation.
Everlasting contempt is given to those who do not trust Jesus.
The Words of the LORD are pure Words. Every Word of God is pure. The word (every) is #3605; it means the whole, all, any or every, to complete, (make) perfect.
(Every) Word of God is Perfect!
The words (Holy Ghost) only show up in the New Testament GiGi.
Which of these are perfect GiGi?
The KJB ( Col 1:14) "In whom we have redemption through his blood"
The Nasb "in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins"
The Niv "in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins"
The Nlt "who purchased our freedom, and forgave our sins"
Only one of these verses are perfect GiGi, can you not see that?
The other three verses fall into ( Jer 23:36) The word (perverted) is #2015; it means to change or overturn.
Why would modern versions pervert, or CHANGE the words of the living God and remove the words "through his blood"?
Would you please answer this question GiGi.
Blessings to you GiGi.
SHOWING
MAN HIS DUTY
AND POINTING
HIM TO THE PRINCIPLE OF GOD IN HIS HEART ,
-WHICH IS
THE ROOT OF LIFE IN ALL ITS DISPENSATIONS, AND WHICH, BEING KEPT TO, IS ABLE TO BEAR THE FRUIT OF LIFE IN EVERY DISPENSATION-- Issac Peningtion 1662
THE goodness of God endureth for ever. And though his creature man (who should have been subject and obedient to him) hath sinned against him, and by motions and inclinations of his own will and wisdom (out of the principle of his pure life, which was to have been his guide and governor) hath fallen short of his glory; yet he still pleaseth to visit his poor lost creature with loving-kindness and mercy, and with various dispensations of his life, according to his pleasure. What man is there that hath not received a soul from the breath of the Almighty? And what soul is it that hath not some visitations of life from that living breath? The bowels of eternity most naturally roll towards all its offspring; who seeketh the gathering of them all in the variety, and according to the limitations of his will, in his pure wisdom.
There is a current or stream of life before the promise is known, which secretly visits all, discovering the darkness in some measure unto all, and drawing from it. And happy is he who falls in with, and follows the leadings of the Almighty here; for then he cannot abide in the darkness, but still (according to the need of his condition) will meet with a true guide out of it, and with the true power which redeemeth and delivereth from it. For as the promise made to Adam, had relation to all his posterity; so whoever is visited with any light by virtue of the promise, that light will lead him to the promise, and he (in the obedience thereof) will meet with the sweetness and virtue of the promise. So that the lowest dispensation of God (the creature being exercised therein, feeling the want of God's power, and drawn to depend upon him for mercy and strength) will lead fallen man back again to his Maker, by the virtue which flows into man from the promise, though ever so secretly and hiddenly. For it is not the distinct knowledge of the promise, (though that is a very great advantage) but the virtue flowing from the promise, which saves. Man being touched by that virtue, and by the touch thereof quickened towards God; and in that virtue which comes from the redeeming mercy, cleaving to his Maker, and hoping in his tender bowels, and
feeling the weakness, insufficiency, and corruption of his own will and understanding, and so going forth from himself towards the spring which quickened him. Here is Christ known in spirit, received in spirit, believed and relied on in spirit, and his living virtue already felt, and further waited for. And can this man, thus walking, thus believing, thus obeying, thus cleaving to the principle which gives life, thus receiving virtue from it, and growing up (in that virtue) out of the self-hood, into it; I say, can this man miss of eternal life, which runs along in all the streamings forth of this living virtue?
But oh, how sweet is the stream of life in the sensible manifestation of the promise! He who feels the covenant in Christ, and life streaming into his heart through the covenant, and the seal of eternal peace to his soul, and that he shall never be left nor forsaken by the fountain of mercy, but all that ever befalls him shall conduce towards the working out of the perfect redemption and salvation of his soul; this is a precious state indeed; and this is the state which the feeling of the faith, and the living obedience in the Spirit leads to. Happy are they that walk in the path thereof, who content not themselves with man's knowledge of Christ, with man's belief of the things written concerning him, with man's obedience to the precepts left on record by the apostles, but whose living soul cannot be satisfied without the feeling and pressing after Christ, the life, and without a true engrafting into him in spirit, through the living Word, or testimony of life, received into, and believed on in the heart.
And how sweet also is the ministration of the law, which comes from the promise, and is managed to the soul by the hand of the Mediator! How sweet is it to see the creature fall daily! to find one's own strength to believe, to obey, to suffer, to abide with Christ, to wait on Christ, to hope for Christ, daily battered and brought to nothing, and no life left but what issues from the spring, and is alone maintained by the free current thereof into the heart daily! Here the stroke of the law is received by degrees unto perfect death. Here are the openings of the pure prophecies in the Spirit concerning a new kingdom, a new birth, a new heir, a new life. Here is the axe laid to the root of the tree, and that cut down in the heart which is not to live, and which hinders the heir from his inheritance. Here is the vale of tears; which tears spring from the life, whose virtue washeth away the corruptible day by day. Here is the house of mourning, and that state of darkness entered into, which swallows up all the joy of the dark, earthly spirit, and consumes its nature. Here the light of life is sown, and through these exercises it springs up; and after the passing away of this ministration, breaks forth in strength upon that soul which hath been thoroughly exercised herein.
I desire the good of all mankind, waiting for the swallowing up of the dispensations of death, and the breaking forth of life upon them in the seasons thereof, according to the good pleasure of him whose gift life is, and whose are all the dispensations of it. And in that love, through the openings and drawings of life in me, have I writ what follows; not to upbraid or strike at any but to be an help unto such as the Lord shall please to make it serviceable to. Wait on the Lord, eye him, read in fear, praying to be touched by, and gathered into, that which gives the feeling of the weight of truth. Oh, that men's souls were awakened, that they might know what it is to perish from God, and what to be saved by him! The proper portion of man's soul is the fountain of eternal life; and he can never be happy (nor in true rest, peace, or joy) while separated from it. Let him who is not brutish in understanding, and whose soul is not wholly dead God-wards consider this.
Friend,
the Principal refer to is the Grace of God, The Light.
I have said often that there are either fake human manifestations regarding the five senses; or demonic events; or true experiences from the Spirit. Your point is interesting that emotions can be involved with some of these gifts; but isolated without the Spirit or making the feelings be a priority over the Holiness of God gets us into trouble and opens the door for deception at some point. To have no emotion of course means our hearts are cold and we are in danger like the Ephesians were in Revelation 3 and risk having the church fall apart.
I have noticed today that rebuke is almost nonexistant; and this can be because of sloppy leadership in church; lack of discernment or love which prompts us in the Spirit to challenge ourselves first then others. Encouraging words such as truthful statements of how we see the Spirit working in someone is probably sorely lacking today as well; hard to remember the last time I heard it myself. As is often the case as I see it human familiarity and friendships can be a large detractor from effective moves of the Spirit; and sometimes someone from the outside is able to more effectively discern and give words of knowedge (often of course taken as an insult or brushed aside). Tact is important; of course but can't overrule God's truth getting out.
I would say that genuine prayer; and godly music with praise are necessary prerequisites for the Spirit to move. Too often something as seemingly insignificant as gossip can upend what the Spirit is attemptiong to do and quench it. People need to be serious in the house of God. Perhaps I should do a series on this subject?
Let me know.