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Please pray that the Lord heals me from woman issues and that I have a normal monthly. Also pray He restores my hemoglobin to normal. Prayers for all, may the Lord perfect that which concerns us all.

Please pray that the Lord heals me of female problems and that my monthly is normal and that my hemoglobin comes up to normal. Prayers that the Lord moves on all our requests and perfects all that concerns us. God bless.

Asking for prayer about me being able to get pregnant and being content with Gods timing. My husband really wants to be a dad and I believe it'll happen, just asking for other brothers and sisters in Christ to pray with me that believe to. If you're going through this with your spouse, just know that you are not alone, and that Gods timing is everything. Love you al and God bless

A Correction:

In the last para second line:Thus one was blessed and the other was not judged.

Please read it as,"Thus one was blessed and the other was condemned."

Rev.11.2 "The Gentiles"

"But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months."

The term Gentiles are those who are not counted by God as worthy of Zion. These includes Israel as well the Gentile nations. They are numbered among the sanctified ones and are covered by 144,000. "And of Zion it shall be said, This and that man was born in her: and the highest himself shall establish her./The Lord shall count, when he writeth up the people, that this man was born there."(Ps.87.5-6)

Blessed are those who found favour. "Blessed is the man whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee, that he may dwell in thy courts: we shall be satisfied with the goodness of thy house, even of thy holy temple."(Ps.65.4) From the same Gentiles there are those who are enemies to Christ. The Spirit has illustrated this two groups at the cross. "And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us./ But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation? And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss./ And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom./ And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise."( Lk. 23.39-43)

Both malefactors were justly under condemnation but one found grace who pleaded with a right spirit, 'remember me'. Thus one was blessed and the other was not judged. The nation of Israel will resist and 42 belongs to the sons of perdition and the beast derives his power from the dragon. "and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months."(Rev.13.5-8) The name of Israel shall not be found in the book of the Lamb. Death of two witness and the city of Jerusalem is judged as with Sodom and Egypt. (Rev.11.8)

please remember my daughters and their families in your prayers please remember my mom and Magda and me in your prayers

"Blessed"

"Blessed is the man whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee, that he may dwell in thy courts:"(Ps.65.4)

According to the everlasting Covenant the sanctified one are those 144,000 standing on mount Sion. (Rev.14.1)There is another 144,000 which are mentioned in Rev.7. They have come out of the great tribulation. "These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb./ Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them./ They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat./ For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes."(Rev,7.14-19)

Here we have the temple of God which is in heaven which is being prepared. The 144,000 refer to the body of Christ where every believer has a volume. There is another 144,000 that comes out of tribulation. These are the Gentiles. The two witnesses testify for 1260 days in order to bring them into the body of Christ."And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth."(Rev.11.3) The number foreshadow the earthly ministry of Jesus Christ for Three and a half years.

"And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein./ But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles." (11,1-2) The temple of God when it is ready shall have the testament of Jesus Christ. "And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake."(Rev.11.19)

Dear !DLHenri,

I am continuing to pray for Arthur and yourself.

Just wondering, does he have you or anyone else as a power of attorney or guardian?

I ask this because, if so, then the doctors and nurses and social workers can legally speak with this person concerning Arthur and his care.

When you are in the room with Arthur, does the staff fill you in?

I can tell that this is so very hard for you. I am sorry that things are not coming into place as you or Arthur needs.

Be persistent in calling on the Lord. He does hear you.

Brother Giannis thank you for those worthy thoughts. And yes, your wife certainly gave you a great illustration in the role & attitude of a father to his children. One thing though that came to mind (& coming from left field): I realize that this is a 'non-Scriptural' thought, but how do we perceive or visualize our Father God in Heaven. We do have several glimpses, especially in The Revelation (mainly in chapters 4, 5, 7), about those elders, angels, & beings around His Throne worshiping Him - is that how we generally perceive this state in Heaven?

Speaking from my own perception, and given whatever the Word reveals about the presence of God & His Character, I don't at all sense that He is a happy-go-lucky father figure, entertaining humor & jokes from the beings of Heaven, or even joining in the activities of Heaven. I realize that some believers may sense the opposite to what I do and that's okay, since I feel that after all, it can only be an individual's perception, unless we've had an Isaiah or Paul experience.

Therefore, the "fear of God" speaks to me of an Almighty, Holy, Everlasting God Who ever exists, thinks, behaves, & causes things to happen both within & without, in a way that is far removed from what an earthly father (or, man) could ever be, whether to his children, family or others. Yes, as we can run to our earthly father to express ourselves or needs, so too we can approach our heavenly Father in & through His Spirit within us. But the fact of the very Nature of God & His relation to all His creation, and without any similarity to our humaness, our God is truly to be feared for His Majesty, Wisdom, & Power. Do we just hold Him in awe & reverence, or do we (or should we) come before Him as those beholding His Glory, as no earthly father can produce or expect? Maybe, if we do receive a vision of His Glory, then the word "fear" will hold a greater, compelling, & worthier meaning to us. Blessings.

Making amends: Repentance in word and deed

Luke 19:8 And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord: Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold.

Matthew 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

"Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth." ( Ephesians 4:28).

These verses show that our actions should be part of what we verbally confess in order to bring restoration to those we have offended. THere are cases like with Paul where Barnabus stated in Acts 9:27 But Barnabas took him and brought him to the apostles and declared to them how on the road he had seen the Lord, who spoke to him, and how at Damascus he had preached boldly in the name of Jesus. This reminds us of the verse Proverbs 27:2 where another is to praise us rather than promotion of ourselves. In this case the early believers had to hear it from someone other than Paul himself for no doubt they feared he would entrap them and were doubtful that he was truly converted. This could be compared in some ways with a convicted criminal who sincerely is apologetic with a family of a victim when he has nothing to gain for himself-anyone can repent and part of OUR repentance is showing God's love toward those who offended us.

Repentance also involves a permanent turn from sin and not replacing one sin for another. This is one danger of those who say that they have a demon of "lust" or some other specific manifestation. The enemy will substitute one temptation for another; that is clear from the verses of Christ's temptation to go from satisfying hunger; to being suicidal and worshipping the Devil rather than God. We need to repent from actions and the lifestyle that leads to the broad road or directly to sin

(1 Timothy Part 11b):

1 Timothy 3:3 continued:

Not covetous; Now the normal word for covetousness in the bible, which is not this word, but the normal word PLEONEXIA means to have a desire to want more. You might say more what? Well, that's what covetousness is. It's the whole attitude of I've reached this level of material wealth in life, and the common desire amongst western culture people is to want the next level, the next step, the next thing.

That's covetousness, to want more than what you have, and the desire to have more than what you need. We just keep going and that's covetousness. But that's not this word here. This word is a single Greek word that means a love for silver or love for money. It's the same word used in Chapter 6 where he says the love for money is the root of all evil.

It doesn't say money is evil. It says the love for money. And the word love is PHILEO which means friendship. And unfortunately for many people, money is their best friend. We rearrange our whole schedules around money, what's going to make us the money, and how we're going to spend our money.

So, a person in leadership cannot desire or love money. Which as you know, if you watch TV, or heard enough in church, for people in ministry, that's a difficult thing because usually that's all they talk about.

In Verses 4 and 5 we have the crux of the whole book. It's the pivotal point and the center of the whole book. It says in Verse 4, and this is the 14th characteristic of the person who is the overseer.

(1 Timothy Part 11a):

1 Timothy 3:3 - Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

The 8th thing is "Not given to wine." Now that kind of sounds like there's a loophole there. Not given to wine. Literally, the Greek text means to not be alongside of wine. What does that mean? It means don't be associated with it. Don't even let it sit on the table next to you, even if it belongs to someone else. Stay away from it. Don't be associated with it.

No striker, and that's the literal translation, somebody who does not use their fists to handle their situations. It is somebody who does not beat up other people.

Then the next thing which is our tenth thing and it's only in the Textus Receptus manuscripts. You won't find it outside of the King James Bible.

Not greedy of filthy lucre; Now before I understood what that meant, just by those words I didn't want anything to do with it. I had no idea what filthy lucre was, but I didn't want to find out. It's literally one Greek word that means do not desire or be greedy of shameful gain. It means that if you're in a position of leadership in the church, that issue of your relationship with the world and your desire for worldly material things, it has to already be settled.

But (meaning in contrast to that), but patient, that is, you wait back. You're not known to be out in the world. You're known to be moderate. You hold back. You don't need to go there. You don't need that!

Then it says not a brawler. That is self-explanatory.

(1 Timothy Part 10c):

1 Timothy 3:2 continued:

Next: To be of good behavior. Some people would be eliminated there. But good behavior comes from the Greek word KOSMION, like cosmetics, and it means to have an orderly lifestyle disciplined and orderly.

Next: Given to hospitality. This has nothing to do with parties, or the church Christmas party has got to be at his house. It has nothing to do with that. In fact, the word hospitality, it's one Greek word. It's a compound word that means to love or be fond of strangers.

I think I shared this in the past, but it has to do with the believers who come into town on the Lord's business, and they have nowhere to stay. And believers opened their homes to other Christians, people who were strange in that city, and had no place to go or no place to stay. So that's what it's talking about. Be hospitable to other believers that have no place to stay, as they're traveling through your town.

After giving the hospitality, it says apt to teach; And it literally means have the ability to teach. An overseer, and especially a pastor, must be able to teach God's word.

(1 Timothy Part 10b):

1 Timothy 3:2 continued:

As I mentioned in part 10a, there are 16 qualities that are necessary for a bishop, elder, or pastor.

First of all, it is necessary to be blameless. This word means that he is unable to be impeached. You can accuse him of things, you can spread rumors about him, but there must be at least two or three witnesses to bring a conviction in court. You can't just accuse a leader of something. You have to prove it. And there must be at least two or three witnesses, and this person cannot be eligible to be impeached. If he can be impeached for any of the moral problems or areas that he's presenting here, then he cannot be an overseer. So, he must be blameless, unimpeachable.

Secondly, the husband of one wife, and remember, all of this goes with (to be), to exist as the husband of one wife. How can a woman be an overseer (Bishop, Elder, or Pastor) and be the husband of one wife?

Now the way the Greek text reads, it reads a one-woman man. That's the way it reads. It has nothing to do with marriage, or divorce, or remarriage. It has nothing to do with any of those factors as far as the text is concerned. He must be a one-woman man, faithful, period! We're talking about faithfulness. He must be unimpeachable. He must be a one-woman man.



Next: He must be vigilant. That means attentive, to be watching, because Satan is always on the prowl. So, he's got to be taking inventory of his life and taking care of things as they're happening.

Then it says sober. This has to do with sober mindedness. This has nothing to do with alcohol or that type of sobriety. It means to have a frame of mind that thinks in wisdom and facts according to God.

(1 Timothy Part 10a):

1 Timothy 3:2 - A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

I would like to spend a little bit of time here because I believe there's some very important teaching here concerning the qualifications of a bishop. And please keep in mind that this word for bishop (EPISKOPOS) is also interchangeable with elder and pastor.



But here is a very important technicality I want to share with you. It says in the text a bishop then must be, and then he starts his list. The word "must" is the word necessary. It is necessary. And then in the Greek text, it says (to be), not just be, but to be. That is what is called a Present Tense Infinitive. It means to presently exist with these qualities. It has nothing to do with the past, and obviously nothing to do with the future. It is right now presently that these are the qualities and the character of this person.

There are a couple of highlights here that people use, but it's not really a text about marriage and divorce, or relationships. This is all about character. This is all about faithfulness. If you are into marking in your bible, you might want to write off to the side 1 Corinthians 4:2. Paul says there is one requirement of those who are stewards, or ministers, and that is faithfulness. That's the only requirement. If you read that into each one of these qualities, you will see that Paul is saying that to be an overseer, a (man) must be faithful in all of these areas. There are 16 of them.

Fear not, for we put into our flesh that which is of the world, no different than meat, fish or any other plant. It is our belief in the world's judgment that needs cleansing and we need to turn our trust to the Word, the Life, the Way.

Worry not about your body, but your soul and spirit, so be of sober mind. If you're inhaling to exhale responsibility then repent! Focus instead on others, rather than yourself as you've already been saved. The trappings of this world are much more subtle than something the world simply and vocally rejects, so be on your right guard, because the world changes on a whim. Have faith. Faith, and Trust in the Lord is all you need. He will guide and instruct you if you listen and obey His instructions. Prov. 3:5-6

P.S. I can't find any text at all regarding not smoking. Oh, I've heard all the arguments, but I follow the scripture, not man's word. As far as sober mindedness, well, yes that's easy don't succumb to temptations that replace our Lord, that's the first commandment after all. I hope this helps you find peace so you can focus on what the Lord wants you to be, not what you have been or even are.

gigi: Wish you was a lawyer. at first Arthur was appreciated of me calling 911 and him being admitted plus the surgery with all the complication with his sugar being at 25. now he cusses me, calls me the B word. he says his in prison (guess) his still in the hospital. before I left so he would not see the pain I was hurting for him, he was whispering-Let's go-mom I replied: I can't pick you up, I have no strength, then he started yelling, I told him go ahead and yell at me, If I was able to take you out of here, you would still do this to me, I said I would be back. I cried and cried, after I left his room. I asked: God Why? do you allow my son to struggle? why? have them mistreat him and get away with it and I say that by them putting promises to him, the IF word comes out with obligation to get the healing and now his having to go by their words or get out and live on the street. they said they would Help him get into a assistance living, theyy would help him with a care worker, they would help him get a bed, a new motor scooter to get around and now they are not going to do anything. His not human no more, his rejected, ignored and not cared for. What can I do beside Cry out to God, Jesus, with the word. HELP the disabled, my son. His own brother (the oldest) rejects him, his twin brother wants to live in Arthur house still but does not want to care for Arthur, His dad will not assist Arthur either. I am basically the only one who is showing up for my son Arthur and his deny me now out of anger. I feel real hurt. I want to die but I would leave him alone and not knowing how his suffering might be worst, so I best not die. HELP it's getting to the point I am getting worn out as well-trying to be around and by him. I had to come home but I have to go back Tomorrow to take his phone to him.

please pray for america and israel and for the peace of jerusalem pray that god keep sending his angels to protect mr trump and his family from all his enemies.pray that god would break a generational curse of my family.please pray that i can take back every thing the devil has stolen from me.pray that god help me find a helpmeet.pray that i can get a 1,400 stimuus check.pray for my nephew travis neal.i believe he worship a false god thats not holy. pray that god let him visit hell so he would know that hell is real and thats where he is headed if he doesen,t repent and change his ways.thanks for your prayers and may god bless in jesus name amen

Two witnesses-3

"And when they shall have finished their testimony,"Rev.11.7

These two witnesses testify and their testimony is true. Jesus said, "It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true." man and angel representing the pillar of cloud and of fire respectively correspond to man with his inner man. So John refers to it, "He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son."( 1 Jn 5.10; Jn 8.17)

Once again Jesus speaks, this time it is of the night, "I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work."(Jn.9.4). For their testimony they are killed.

God fashioned all hearts alike so it a testimony against the unbelievers, "And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half," And when they rise from death, their testimony is complete. "And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them./ And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven."(11.12-13)

The Spirit gives us clues there that it is Jerusalem and the Jews are intended. The earthquake was a signal for those who crucified Jesus."Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost./And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent."(Mt.27.50-52). One tenth refers to the Decalogue and the Law of sin and death. The Word of the Law judged them and 7x1000 tells the truth. The city shall be lifted up so it is no longer but New Jerusalem that is the focus. (Zec.14.5,10) Once again earthquake is mentioned, 'yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah.'

I have been having hard times recuperating from smoking.Aside from devoting myself to praying I still cannot live my life without it thereby leading me to deeper temptations and tribulations.

I am afraid it will destroy my new life in Christ and a major hindrance to my faith in the Lord.Really needs a breakthrough

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Prayers for all who are struggling and trying to find their way. Let us all give thanks to our Lord for all the uncountable blessings he gives to all of us.

I am very ill right now,i have a severe rash all over me.it is painful.imissed church partially because of it.i am on bactrum for it.and an antifungal cream for it.i really need your prayers that God will touch my body and heal me of this .i am so upset.

I need prayer of agreement that God will supernatural move in the area of my finances today. I need a financial break through to day.

So God father honor your word and manifest my desires today so that the enemy will not have God's glory in my life and the earth. I need $4500 hundred dollars today. I need this miracle..

What is "fear of God". Should we, His children, "fear God?"

In the past I was troubled by having two different feelings. One feeling that says that God is your dear Father who loves till death and a feeling that says that God is a fearsome, powerful God, with whom one should keep a distance from. After all He is God, not a man. Two opposite feelings.

One time as I was trying one more time to think what is the proper way to approach and think of God, I just asked my wife what she thinks of it. And she said something very simple to me," how would you like your son to see you and approach you?" And I said that I would like my son to love me, to appreciate what I have done for him, to trust me that I want the best for him and to respect me as a father. I would never liked that my son fears me, I would feel like a failed father if that had happened. So she said it is the same with God. Love Him, trust in Him, appreciate what He has done and doing for you and respect Him like a Father but do not fear Him. He wouldn't like this. Fear God means respect God as a Father.

So we should not fear God BUT we should fear about our salvation and be very serious about it. Philippians 2:12, "12Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling." Let us obey God, let us not play games with sin, be careful, stay away from anything that could turn us to a different direction than that of the narrow way, along Jesus' footprints, which ends up in Heaven, Every other way leads somewhere else, not in Heaven.

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My COGIC WORSHIP: 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

I Worship a God that is Holy,Word,life and resurrection.God that saves.God of obedience to listen.God of love one to another.

please remember my daughters and their families today please pray for my mom and for Magda and me

Two witnesses-2

Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.-(Ps.19.2)

God leading the Israelites by pillar of cloud by day is a witness as the pillar of fire is. They testify the gospel of salvation and for those who reject it testifies damnation. Thus two witnesses create enemies who are called sons of perdition. "And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them."(Rev.11.7) The angels serving God,- for God made angels spirits and his ministers a flame of fire, are the two witnesses. So what St John refers as their power to shut rain shall have man at the other end, "These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will."(11.6) Moses, Elijah and great many who serve the Lord do so for the glory of God. Against them who resist are the sons of Belial."Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith."(2 Tim.3.8)

How does this apply to Israel? Thy do not enter into the Law of the Spirit where Jesus Christ is the Fulfillment, the earth that abides forever.(Eccle.1.4) God tells Moses. "Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:/And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation."(Exod.19.5-6; 1.Pet.2.9) In rejecting Jesus Israel rejected the divine Will: "The Lord hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek."(Ps.110.4) He was the priest of the most High as well as the king of Salem. He blessed Abraham to validate the Law which is of the Covenant and of the Spirit. What is not planted by God shall be uprooted under the Old or New .

Two witnesses-1

'The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork'.(Ps.19.1-2)

God is Spirit. Glory of God delineated by the word therefore is spiritually understood so his handiwork Earth shall consequently has spiritual significance.

God framed the worlds by his word so the glory of God is in terms of his Will, a world unseen but the firmament serves as a testimony, and it is thus God gave an angel the revelation of Jesus Christ. The visions of St John and Ezekiel are examples and the firmament serves as a glass which endues every heart, a spiritual space to know this glory, "But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord." (2 Cor.3.18)

Here is a verse: "And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."(Rev.11.8) What Jerusalem as a geographical name is interchangeable with places where God made his glory manifest.The angel went the whole Egypt at night. He judged Sodom as he judged Egypt. "And there came two angels to Sodom at even." God sent His witnesses to deliver Lot and his family for Abraham's sake; as He sent pillars of cloud and pillars of fire to lead the Israelites, "And the Lord went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night:/ He took not away the pillar of the cloud by day, nor the pillar of fire by night, from before the people."(Exod.13.21-22 The same fire and cloud associated with the living creatures. Testimony of Jesus Christ as the Word become flesh. What the firmament testifies is the Law of the Spirit which has a command number Seven. Judgment meted out to the disobedient in the book of revelation, consequently presented in the form of seven angels.

Dear !DLHenri,

Thanks for the update. I am continuing in prayer for Arthur.

It is incredible that case workers cannot find safe place for him to be released to. May God's mercy be effective in his life and situation.

Hello Richard.

Yes Luke 3:8 that mentions fruits worthy of repentance shows that repentance is a way of thinking, living, facing life, not just a mere feeling of regret.

Now, I wouldn't agree to present God as an angry God. Definitely we must talk to people about the consequences of unbelief. That hell is very serious thing, it is not a weekend trip to a bad place but a horrible eternity away from God in the lake of fire.

Not everybody comes to Christ for the same reason. Others come to God because of fear of death or hell, others because they are looking for God, others for healing or solution to a serious problem, others are looking for freedom from a sin or passion etc etc. This is in the begining. But as we spend time near God and start understanding His character and His love for us and what He has done for us, then we are attracted to Him by His love for us. And God uses this method often. He gives various gifts to people to draw us to Him and then He gradually reveals His true character to us, God is Love. And He expects us to love Him back. The first and most important commandement is to love God with all yourself. But one can not do that if they don't understand His character and if one never gets anything from God.

Is a man drawn to God because they are regenerated first OR one is regenerated first and thus they are drawn to God? Difficult question. There are good arguments on both sides. Was Paul regenerated before Jesus appeared to him in his way to Damascus? Honestly, I do not think so. But what I can tell is that God often uses specific methods to approach a person whom He knows they will believe. Methods that He may never use for a person who will never believe. But often He does that latter thing. So what we can say for sure is that we can not place God in a pattern. It seems that God alters His methods according to whom He deals with, believers or unbelievers.

Thanks for your comment. GBU