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These are the same people who were destroyed by the brightness of Christ at His return for his people 2 Thessalonians 2:8. Satan cant deceive them, Christ brightness destroys them, they are all dead. Then at the end of the thousand years Satan will be loosed to deceive them for a short season, Revelation 20:5 the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.
fellowships where did he get this ?
Hope all is well. I would like to request a prayer for my husband, my mother, my mother in law, my father in law, grandmother, great grant mother, friends, relatives and the rest of the world, that God give us strength to fight the disease illness, in order for them to find the cure, to give us peace each and everyone on earth, that we have to love one another, trust/faith with the Lord God. God bless us all.
Stay safe and healthy.
Thank you.
Brian
What is the significance of the number of fish caught in the net: 153.?
I apologize for making the devil comment seemingly directed at you. Please forgive me.
What I meant to say was that the devil is behind the Protestant division. He hates the Eucharist as it is such a personal love gift from Jesus to His people.
So the perfect storm happened with Father Martin Luther in 1400s to break off a branch of revolutionaries from "under the thumb" of the Catholic Church into a new dissident group called Protestants which allowed them to do away with many of the fundamental teachings and authority of the Church. You can be assured that the devil was behind this fiasco as he hates the Catholic Church as well.
So Protestantism was able in one fell swoop to get rid of Jesus' priesthood, His established government, His Mass, His Eucharist, and the rest of His grace giving sacraments (save Baptism thanks be to God) etc. This is how the devil has tricked multiple generations of people and deprived them of the full benefits of the Church that Jesus established. This is also why there are more than 30,000 different Christian denominations because there is no authority to govern the splinters and the interpretation of the bible. The Bible needs the Church for true interpretation not visa versa. Without that, 2 people can interpret the same passage different ways and they both can't be right (this thread is an example) and therefore, that is why there are so many different denominations.
So, I rest my case that the fullness of Jesus plan is for us to "all be one" in the Catholic Church that He established, guides and nourishes at every moment. IMHO, there will be a reunification of the Protestants with the Catholic Church and this may happen by the end of the year. If you think that much of a change is impossible, just look what has happen to our world in less than a year. The devil is in his last temper tantrum - fear, division and ultimately the antichrist's appearance. We live in exciting times. Hold on to your booties!
The old person or man will perish, but the new person will know the Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ in His resurrected life. This new person is a blessing and freedom and is fed by the Comforter which is the Holy Ghost sent by Jesus from Heaven. This Comforter will provide love beyond measure for Jesus, brethren and His love, through you reflected towards your neighbor.
Before the True Christian was crushed by the door of repentance which is God's Holy Mercy (because he wants every soul to Himself to share His Glory) they were a neighbor to Jesus. So we are our neighbors neighbor.
Therefore know this door of Mercy by personally being crushed by the Rock of Salvation and then you can love your neighbor as yourself and in know the Righteousness that is in Him and His Holiness.
God bless our meditations.
In your first paragraph you asked a couple questions that seem to be loaded with assumptions. I have no idea where those assumptions even come from.
At the end of your first paragraph you mention Peter as head of his church? I don't interpret the verse that way at all. Jesus is the head of the church, not a man or anyone else. You can view a commentary on this on this website which explains it in detail: Link
In your second paragraph you make a case for 'priestly succession', but I believe this conclusion is based on misinterpretions of the scripture. Jesus already said he's the way, no one else. He's the door, no one else. No hierarchy or priesthood is supported by the scriptures as an arbitrator between you and God. The Bible says church can have its own minister, elders and deacons, but that's only for church management, not for a relationship between you and God. Jesus is the way, he's the only way. There's no where in scripture saying people need to pray to a pope and have graven images of them. It says the opposite, though.
Thank you. Carleton the goat (for now).
Have you not asked other people to pray for you or for some special intention that you have? I'm guessing you have. Why do you do that? Are you not putting a man/woman in-between you and Jesus? Jesus established a new priesthood in the apostles and put Peter as head of His Church on earth ( Mat 16:18+).
The Acts of the Apostles shows in numerous places about priestly succession as well as succession of Peter after he died. Jesus knew his apostles were going to die and designed His Church to continue till the end of time with a priesthood to administer His Sacraments which meant someone else would need to replace Peter as head of the Church and receive the power of the "keys". If you don't like the way Jesus set up His Church government, talk to Him. Technically, the Pope has only invoked the power of Infallibility less than a handful of times and usually not without consulting his advisors. The Lord's Peace brother.
I do believe Jesus spoke in parables and I'm sure you will agree that he spoke literally as well. New Testament refers to Jesus as the paschal/passover lamb ( 1 Corinthians 5:7). Vegan Jews didn't skip eating the lamb at the Passover - eating the flesh was a requirement to fulfill God's ultimatum. When Jesus said we are to eat and drink his flesh and blood he meant it.
You cherry picked the John 6 passage. Continue on:
55For My flesh is food indeed, and My blood is drink indeed. 56He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him.
60Therefore many of His disciples, when they heard this, said, "This is a hard saying; who can understand it?"
61When Jesus knew in Himself that His disciples complained about this, He said to them, "Does this offend you?
66From that time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more. Then Jesus said to the twelve, "Do you also want to go away?"
If Jesus was speaking symbolically, He would have called those who were leaving and said "Wait a minute, here's what I really meant." No He didn't and to make the point He was willing to have his apostles go away if they didn't believe what he said. The Eucharist is the ultimate "call to Faith" that Jesus gave the members of His Church and the ultimate gift. The saying of a couple in love saying "I could just eat you" - well in this case, Jesus meant it. He is the manna for the Journey, the living bread, the Eucharist. The Eucharist is the crown jewel that the Protestants threw out when rebelling. And as for the Pope, read up on when Jesus gave Peter the "keys" and what that means. That should resolve your Pope issues and succession. Joseph in the old testament had the "keys" to Egypt. Also remember, the Church came 400 years before the Bible. The bible has truth, but not the whole truth. That is found in the Tradition of the Catholic Church. "Eat my flesh and drink my blood" - NOT SYMBOLIC. The devil has tricked you. God's blessings brother.
First of all, my sister, I pray that you will return to the one True Faith, the Catholic Church, the one Jesus founded. I think you will be given that opportunity very soon. As for your specific comment about "Father", your interpretation was taken literally and out of context. Context is CRITICAL when interpreting the Bible.
Perhaps the most pointed New Testament reference to the theology of the spiritual fatherhood of priests is Paul's statement, "I do not write this to make you ashamed, but to admonish you as my beloved children. For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel" ( 1 Cor. 4:14-15).
Peter followed the same custom, referring to Mark as his son: "She who is at Babylon, who is likewise chosen, sends you greetings; and so does my son Mark" ( 1 Pet. 5:13). The apostles sometimes referred to entire churches under their care as their children. Paul writes, "Here for the third time I am ready to come to you. And I will not be a burden, for I seek not what is yours but you; for children ought not to lay up for their parents, but parents for their children" ( 2 Cor. 12:14); and, "My little children, with whom I am again in travail until Christ be formed in you!" ( Gal. 4:19).
John said, "My little children, I am writing this to you so that you may not sin; but if any one does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous" ( 1 John 2:1); "No greater joy can I have than this, to hear that my children follow the truth" ( 3 John 4). In fact, John also addresses men in his congregations as "fathers" ( 1 John 2:13-14).
By referring to these people as their spiritual sons and spiritual children, Peter, Paul, and John imply their own roles as spiritual fathers. Since the Bible frequently speaks of this spiritual fatherhood, we Catholics acknowledge it and follow the custom of the apostles by calling priests "father."
Come home dear sister!
Our message remains the same: Ye must repent and turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).
Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).
:)
I'd like to share an alternate viewpoint if you are open to it.
Do you believe that Jesus often spoke parables? These stories and metaphors were a means for teaching and he explained why he used them: Luke 8:10
So, when Jesus said to eat his flesh and blood in John 6:53 did he literally mean to kill him and resort to cannibalism? I believe not, based on all his previous metaphors. Even his followers knew it was symbolic, but didn't quite understand the symbolism yet.
Jesus also said a few verses earlier in John 6:35 that he's the bread of life. Does that mean he's literally a loaf of bread walking and talking? It was a metaphor.
Jesus also explained the purpose of communion in Luke 22:19. Do it in remembrance of Him. If the goal was to literally eat and drink Jesus then you would think he would not have said this. It suggests the whole purpose of communion is to remember Jesus and His sacrifice for our sins and not that we're supposed to literally eat and drink him as food.
Also Jesus says John 14:6, John 10:9, Acts 4:12 that he's the only way for salvation. Not a man. So, I feel if a religion uses another man, like a Pope, in-between you and Jesus that you must go through then it is a false teaching inconsistent with scripture.
God bless!