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This is known as the 70th week of Daniel, a week being a seven-year period. I don't know how to get 3-1/2 years out of a week? The 70th week of Daniel is divided into four sections: Pains of Birth (The first 3-1/2 years), the Pivotal Point (Mid-Point of the Tribulation), Perils of tribulation (The last 3-1/2 years known as the Great Tribulation), and then the promise of His Coming (The Second Coming of Christ).

You say that the actual tribulation begins as soon as the man of sin moves from Rome and sits in the temple, and if you are referring to what the Bible calls "The Great Tribulation" then I agree. I am curious as to how you know for sure this man comes from Rome?

If no man will ever go to the 3rd heaven where the Father, Son, and holy angels currently dwell, where is Paul the apostle at right now? Paul said to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. If the Lord is in the 3rd heaven and Paul is present with the Lord, where is Paul? Paul said in 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 "I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago-whether in the body I do not know, or out of the body I do not know, God knows-such a man was caught up to the third heaven. And I know how such a man-whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, God knows-was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which a man is not permitted to speak. Could that have been Paul himself? And wasn't John caught up to the 3rd heaven? John got to see the throne in heaven and the one sitting on it.

I do agree that there will be some who will survive the Great Tribulation, the last 3-1/2 years. However, I think it will be very few, not great multitudes. I do thank you for sending me all these scriptures. Please know that I have read all these before and I am familiar with them. They are not new to me.

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Naya,

I agree that all who are found worthy will receive spiritual bodies. But what does it mean to be found worthy? Am I found worthy? I think not. One day when I stand before the Lord, I'm going to know that I don't deserve to be there. I am found worthy not because of anything I did, but because God is going to see His Son in me. You see, I am made righteous through Christ because He alone is righteous. I have no righteousness of my own.

You say that "the church applies to everyone who will be grafted into the God Family natural born and spiritual." I would agree that the church consists of all believers who have received Christ and have been born of His Spirit. I am not following what you mean about the "natural born" part?

I also agree with you that there is only one more return to earth by Christ. And yes, the bible is clear that all eyes will see Him. Our technology today makes that possible (Satellite TV, etc.). This return to earth is His second coming. Revelation Chapter 19 says we come back with Him. But I don't believe this refers to us meeting Him first in the air (the clouds), and then immediately coming back down to the earth. Why would we meet Him in the clouds just to come right back down? I see nothing in scripture that supports that thought. I do agree that Christ will come and reign for 1,000 years. I see this as happening after the Tribulation period.

You mention that "Jesus will be teaching the children of Israel in the Wilderness for 3 and a half years when he returns." Can you share with me where you find that in scripture? I'm not saying I agree or disagree at this point. I just never heard that before.

As far as the Tribulation Period goes, I still believe it will be a 7-year period. The first 3 years is called the Tribulation. The last 3 years, the bible calls it the Great Tribulation. And the whole time it is called the Tribulation period.

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Raymond Quigano, GOD"S CALENDAR

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I have continually found that those that refute the Dead Sea Scrolls and the book of Enoch have not read them and show their complete dependence and reliance on what man (Catholic church) has declared to be divine writings.

A breakdown of the Enoch calendar

1) 12 month, 30 day month, 360 days

2) + 4 intercalary days (+ 1 occasional leap day) = 365 days

3) 364 / 7 = 52

4) Four intercalary days are to be lived but not reckoned, same with the occasional leap day.

5) Intercalary day (day of remembrance) is inserted at the end of each 3 month cycle.

6) 1st day of the 1st month is ALWAYS the day AFTER the spring equinox.

7) 1st day of the 1st month ALWAYS resets to the 4th day of the week.

8) Enoch lived 365 years.

The spring equinox is also called the "Great Gate"

The first day of the first month according to the Enoch calendar is ALWAYS the 4th (FOURTH) day of the week.

A check for this can be found in the book of Jubilees where it states that the Festival of Shavuot is ALWAYS the 15th day of the 3rd month and is ALWAYS the FIRST day of the week.

So if you count backwards to the 1st day of the 1st month it will ALWAYS be the 4th day of the week.

(Enoch 72:32-34) states that there is a separation day that is to occur at the spring equinox which separates each year. It is the day after day 364 and it does NOT have a day attached to it.

It is the time from the end of the 364th day until the spring equinox.

The day after the 364th day is intercalated.

The Enoch calendar is a holy priestly calendar that is based on 364 days ONLY.

The extra time until the equinox is used to calibrate the New Year. That time is not counted. The calendar is perfectly rectified every year.

Raymond Quijano,

I hear you loud and clear and completely agree.

I will do my best to keep God's calendar and not the ridiculous Gregorian calendar that has everyone fouled up.

The Book of Enoch from the Dead Sea Scrolls gives us the Solar Priestly Calendar.

The Book of Enoch covers topics on the solar priestly calendar, origins of demons and giants, why some angels fell from heaven, an explanation of why the Great Flood was morally necessary, and the thousand-year reign of the Messiah.

The Book of Jude speaks of these fallen angels and Enoch is mentioned as having preached against them ( Jude 1: 14-15).

Sabbath days remain constant on the Enoch calendar in relation to the spring equinox; but they will rotate on the Gregorian calendar.

Enoch lived 365 years (and possibly .242)

The spring equinox is the great equalizer of the calendar and is the leap day that rectifies the calendar every year (day 365.242), look at (Ps. Ch. 19)

March 20, 2020 (sunrise to sunrise) was the 365th day of the solar year (the day of the spring equinox), making March 21, 2020 the first day of the first month of the New Year (and the 4th day of the week)

The 364 day Enoch solar calendar runs off the 365.242 day solar cycle

When does the day start? Look at ( Gen 1:16, 18, 19:33, 34, Ex. 10:13, 16:22-27,

We are specifically commanded to use the SUN as the sign for days, Sabbaths, months, years, Sabbaths of years, jubilees, and feasts, and for all seasons of the year.

The LUNAR cycle for the year is 354 days

The Enoch solar calendar is 364 days (+ 365th and day of spring equinox)

The moon is to be for light upon the earth at night ( Gen. 1:14, Psalms 136:9, Jeremiah 31:35), for seasons ( Psalms 104:19), and for a witness to the covenant of David ( Psalms 89:37).

The ONLY calendar that can reckon Daniel's 70 weeks is the Enoch calendar.

No wonder they took this book out of the KJV it is packed with wisdom , I'd hate to be in the shoes of them come judgement time !

Chris,

When you say "their bodies lie in the grave" do you believe that only Jesus is in heaven.

If that is true, how do we understand what happened with the rich man and Lazarus?

See you there, hapily, gratefully, smiling and crying (for joy) at the same time. His church, his bride, New Jerursalem, we who wait for him, love him, receive his words and obey them. We have little time left here so Lord, teach us to number our days and apply our hearts to wisdom. Hold that fast til he comes and keep praying to escape all the things that are coming upon this world and be found by him living in joy. But how, with the terrors and hatred that will be coming at all of us from everyone, everywhere as these very last days are here. I'm still trying to love my enemies that pursue and make prey out of me, but my natural reaction is to hate them. Stephen and Jesus are our examples, love and pray for those who persecute you. God will perfect that which concerns us. Be strong. See you there. Love you.

when Jesus said to Simon called peter and his brother Andrew casting a net into the sea and he said to them "follow me and i will make you fishers of men.

also in mark 1:17.

what does Jesus meant by '' I will make you fishers of men''.

Please, i need a study bible and christian matterials, that can help me grow in faith. Thanks.

pray for the salvation of my daughter, son-in-law and grand daughter

Pope Gregory Calendar Or Gods Calendar of Genesis Chapter one

which one would you keep?

That is Revelation all about God and the forces of darkness and when God gave John a vision not the one that baptized Jesus he saw a new earth and a new heaven.

For that God caused Satan "Because you have done this you wil move on your belly and eat dust all he days of your life and a woman's son shall destroy your works.

Jesus is White jo.

Yes including the flood.

Ye, thy, nor.

Remeber the fall of Lucifer- The son of the morning.

But I don't understand how you should not touch unclean things.

Jesus said unto them "I am the way truth and the life nobody cometh to my father but through me.

Peter was in Joppa then God gave him a vision a sac from heaven dropped saying "Kill eat" then Peter said the Jewish law said that we should not eat unclean animals.

Like the intance in the bible Jesus tempted by satan.

Jesus fasted in the wilderness for 40 days and 40 nights he was led by the Holy Spirit to be tempted by satan the first one was "If you are the son of God command ye stones that they shall turn to bread. "The Jesus said "Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. Then satan took him to the top of Jerusalem the said unto ye "Throw your self down that your father shall send his angels too carry you. then Jesus said "Ye shall not test your lord God.

Then Satan took him to the top of a moutain and said "I shall give you all the parts of the world I can give it to anyone that pleases me if you will bow down and worship me.

The Jesus said "Do not temp your lord God. The Jesus said "Get behind me satan.

I thank you all for your prayers for my sons James and John. Please continue praying for them, that God will break the bonds of addiction and restore their health, mentally, emotionally, and physically. Please also pray that they will be blessed with long, healthy, happy lives. Amen

That is so easy.

It is not everywhere the only place that we are not supposed to pray is on a street. So that people will no that you are praying. The bible said like Daniel he did not pray on the street he prayed west ward Jerusalem.

Thank you so much for your prayers! My appointment went well, and the results were good! Please continue to pray that both my mom and I will be completely healthy. Thank you so much, and may God bless you!

Genesis 1:26. And God said, Let US make man in OUR faith image, after our likeness: and let THEM have dominion over .... creation. (Not other people)

God is Spirit (no color)

Holy Spirit (no color)

Jesus (Mary's color)

The 3 persons of the Godhead have WILLS. It was given to Adam and Eve. They could obey God's will; OR do what they did: disobey God's will (for them) which they did with Satans encouragement; deception.

Satan has a will. He was a created Archangel; covering Cherub. His speeches start with I WILL. He's the evil that hurts people. Not God. Satan never does anything good. He wills, to crush Gods children.

He thought he had killed the Son of God. Imagine his grief when Jesus walked out of the grave.

A scripture says that Jesus was an ordinary looking man; that others would not look upon as being desirous.

He will not look like Revelation 1 Jesus, until we get to Revelation 1: with the white hair and eyes as flames of fire. That's when he becomes the Lion of the tribe of JUDAH.

I agree that people since Adam & Eve have been exploited based on color, wealth and position. There is no way to fix or repay for all the suffering of mankind. The only one who can offer hope is Jesus Christ.

WHO can possibly profit off of mass anger, lack, need, fear? It is The Spirit of Antichrist flexing his muscles against anyone who might believe and follow Jesus to salvation. These crowds are described all through the New Testament, Bible! Satan will possess the Antichrist eventually. It's not ever going to be normal life again. This is a preview of satans plan for the world.

Don't despair and lose heart. Draw closer to Jesus at this time, and He will guide you with his wisdom and preserve your life and those you love. Sit down beside your bed and pray more. Pray for wisdom and strength. He is coming for us! Keep your focus on HIM. Get your families saved. Love will guide your witness to them.

I love and pray for you.

Umm..?? I think so.

It is true.

That was the first rapture that took place as Enoch was walking with God he did not acsend he was taken up to heaven in an twinkling of an eye.

The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would shew them a sign from heaven.

Revelation Chapter 13

1And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make w