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Good morning. Seems like for now that the second day of the week here in earth may continue to be a pull.

I understand that many believe the Lord will return to the earth again. I believe his work was 100% finished on the cross and that the harvest is imminent and the harvesters are few. The other thief on the cross wanted Jesus to save both of them from death by working a work in the world. Perhaps Judas Iscariot had the same erroneous thinking and false hope.

When the view of the harvest is from the perspective that I believe, politics of this earth are of the world.

By Love.

Though the Jews, through unbelief, unjustly demanded the death of Jesus, and the Romans followed through with the wicked plot, the glorious truth is that God himself determined that Jesus would be slain as the sinless Lamb of God for our sins. ( Acts 2:22-24; Romans 4:24-25; Romans 11).

Bob Grove,

Did not Jesus allow for divorce based upon "fornication" ( Matthew 5:32, 19:9). All those people that divorced based upon that reason are NOT committing adultery..according to the words of Jesus.

God is a divorcee ( Jeremiah 3:8).

God will re-marry Israel again ( Ezekiel 37:15-28).

The word sound in Titus 1:13 is the word healthy. It's the same word used in Titus 1:9 about sound doctrine, or healthy doctrine. This section in Titus, Verses 5-16 is giving us the instruction on leadership. The leader is to present sound (healthy) doctrine in order that it might do two things: both to exhort, that is encourage, and to convict the gainsayers, those who speak against the word. Gainsayers are those who speak against the word.

So a leader is to present sound (healthy) doctrine that will encourage believers so that the believer will be healthy in the faith, and also, sound or healthy doctrine will convict the non-believers.

Please read Hebrews chapter 3 which compares Moses' office with the exceeding much more of Jesus Christ.

A born again believer cannot claim to have a sinless life (1 John chapter 1). By faith in the completed work of Jesus Christ on the cross and his resurrection from the dead , we are imputed the righteousness of Christ ( Romans 4 & 5).

Please pray for me and my husband that we will be able to purchase a home. We submitted an offer for a home but looks like many others are submitting too and we are not sure if they are going to except ours. We need a miracle that if this home is not meant for us that the Lord will direct us to where it's going to be and that it's in our price range. And if this home that we did put an offer on is meant for us that this we will get an answer today in Jesus' name I pray!

Bob Hilt,

Well said and well presented concerning the "Sons of God."

Right on!

Bob Grove,

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It seems that "Enos" is the first person recorded within the blood line of Adam and Eve that willfully chose to fall away from the word of God. Both Adam and his wife displayed fear for having disappointed the LORD ( Genesis 3:8 - 10), as well as honesty to Him about their transgression ( Genesis 3:12, 13). Seth, being Adam and Eve's first listed biological son ( Genesis 5:3), is not mentioned in Scripture as acting against the word of God in any form or manner.

To build a wedge between the word of God and His people is the main goal of Satan, and those who do his work for him. Being of a particular family or heritage does not determine whether you will love God or not; that is an individual decision. The example is set forth in this verse that within the direct bloodline of Adam, even at this early period in time, there is a falling away from the saving grace of the LORD, and it "began" with "Enos."

I believe it is also worth mentioning that "Enos" is the only Antediluvian patriarch of the genealogy of Adam and Eve, save for Seth, that is listed among "THE GENERATIONS OF THE HEAVENS AND OF THE EARTH" ( Gen 2:4). Seth is mentioned for genealogy purposes only, as the focus of this verse ( Gen 4:26) is about the error and wickedness of "Enos." The focus of the entire 4th chapter of Genesis, in general, concerns the rise of the seed of Satan upon the earth, and the influence they had on mankind from its earliest beginnings. Even though Adam walked with God only three generations earlier, "Enos" has himself chosen to fall away from the LORD and ally himself with the sons of the wicked one.

Bob Grove,

I understand Genesis 4:26, and specifically the word "began" in this way:

Mankind in general, and Adam, in particular, was properly calling upon the name of the LORD long before the birth of "Enos." Suitable worship of the LORD did not begin with this one "Enos," as Scripture has already given us the example of Abel, whose tribute unto the LORD for his transgressions was found to be acceptable by Him ( Genesis 4:4).

Many believe this verse to convey the sense that the worshippers of the LORD began, at this point in time, to publically band together, calling or representing themselves as dedicated disciples to God and His word. These measures were taken by them in order to distinguish themselves from the wicked generations of Cain, known as "Kenites" ( Genesis 15:19), that were rapidly advancing in all facets of life; especially their worship of their god, Satan.

I believe that what did originate with "Enos" can be better understood from the Hebrew word "chalal," which is translated "began" in Genesis 4:26. The definition and etymology of the word should be reviewed for clearer understanding.

The practice "Enos began" was that of profaning and defiling himself, his heritage, and most importantly, the name of the LORD. "Enos began" calling the names of men, and the names of idols, directly by the name of the LORD, thereby allowing even more confusion to be brought upon the true children of God that are eagerly wanting to understand His precepts.

Given below is ( Genesis 4:26) from the Targum of Jonathan;

"And to Sheth also was born a son, and he called his name Enosh. That was the generation in whose days they began to err, and to make themselves idols, and surnamed their idols by the name of the Word of the Lord."

Father

Thank and Praise You for blessing me this far.

Lord, You will answer our prayers and we ask to draw many souls to Yourself. Father establish me In ministry I Pray for the Spanish, English, and Arabic Gospel outline for people to use and Salvation for the Unsaved and any that the gospel is shared with. Protection over my family Spiritually physically and Deliverance from evil one attacking the mind of my son, mother, brother and me/body and attacked daily enemy and deliverance from our houses, and repentance, and family saved, free my son from alcohol and drug addiction and Deliver him, my brother from mental illness. Please Pray for Onlyhopeyouhave website also for salvations, videos, and posts to be used and protection for people that go there. So can any add to there Daily Prayer lists? Thank You, Father, In The Name Of Jesus God Almighty Glory and Honor.

Chris,

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As Paul states in Hebrews 4:11: "For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, AS GOD DID FROM HIS."

When did God rest? The 7th day.

When did Jesus rest? The 7th day.

When did the Apostles rest AFTER CHRIST DIED? The 7th day.

Was Peter wrong for observing the health laws laid out by God in the book of Leviticus well AFTER Christ had died? Why was he following these laws if ALL had been fulfilled in Christ ( Acts 10:12)?

God explained what is clean and unclean. Did Christ make all unclean food clean again? Answer: No. But I am not going to judge a new Christian (in meat) for eating a ham sandwich; however I will politely and gently point him to Leviticus 11.

"ALL" has not been fulfilled, therefore the LAW still exists. ( Matthew 5:18).

The student of God's word needs to be clear as to what "ORDINANCES" ( Ephesians 215, Colossians 2:14) have been taken out of the way (such as blood sacrifice) and what LAWS (7th day, health) are still in effect.

To answer your questions:

All believers look to take one day off a week, per order of God. I don't think anyone is condemned for trying to understand it as clearly as possible. As I said over and over, I am not the judge and ignorance is not a sin.

Could the 7th day vs. the 1st day be, as you state, "a possible divider of those that are granted eternal life from those that are rejected," I would reply that the ONLY thing that will not be forgiven you in the flesh is if you reject the Holy Spirit from speaking through you if and when the time comes.

On a side note Chris, I appreciate your feedback and I am amazed at your ability to respond to various people at the same time. These comments and replies take me forever to generate.

Chris,

I interpret Colossians 2:16 differently than you do. I believe this verse concerns those that are weaker in faith and in understanding of Scripture are not to be condemned or judged by those that are stronger in faith.

I completely disagree with your belief that Paul is telling us that "the believer is free to do a number of things, including appointing his worship day." Do you tell people that they do not need to understand or follow the OT because it has been replaced? Dangerous stuff there!

Did Christ come to obliterate the Law, (our schoolmaster)? Absolutely not! How do you justify your condemnation of O.T. law?

Do you think that you are not under the 10 Commandments? You are under the law if you break the law. And that is every one every day. Last I checked, only Jesus didn't break any laws, ever?

Concerning the Sabbath, we are plainly told that Christ became our Sabbath and our rest is EVERY DAY, not just one day per week ( Hebrews 4:1-11). That is what I believe! ( 1 Corinthians 5:7). And that is why I don't care when you or anyone else observes the day of rest within a week. As I have repeatedly stated, I'm not the judge!

I would think that people who value understanding Scripture as clearly as possible (as you seem to) would want to use all available resources for this. If you want to rest on a Friday or a Sunday because it is EASIER and convenient and that is what everyone else is doing, that is your choice.

I was not trying to get into a "solar calendar argument," but your dismissive comments concerning the DSS, and your idea that days are "unimportant for worship" and that we "NEED" to abide by the current (Pope Gregory) calendar sounds to me like someone that is "in the world" and has closed his mind off to any new understanding? Are you fearful to find out something that might be different from your understanding?

Luke 11 .24

Luke 24 .39

Demons are falling angels and they are spirits without flesh unless they possess a person .

They are not capable of sexual relationships with flesh .

There was a song that had Psalm104:15 in it during charismatic renewal. Does anyone remember the words to it? The last part of the little song was "and oil to make my face to shine".

what does "take it patiently" mean in 1 peter 2:20-21?

Needing of prayer for husband and I. My husband is dealing and trying to overcome mental illness in his life. We have been for 5 years wanting a family of our own but we both know it's better to wait upon the Lord. My husband been dealing with this illness since 2001. Its through God he will be saved eventually that's why I'm having patience along the way. I'm a prayer warrior at heart because of the many trials and tribulations God has brought me out of. I gave God all the glory. Pray that our marriage is restored, his health and health is restored and we get closer and closer to God our Provider. Thank You.

Jesus remained a devout Jew in the tradition of his forefathers, David, Jacob, Abraham. He was a biblical scholar of the Original testament and was found amonst the scholars expounding nuanced passages of Isaiah at 12 years old. It is said that Jesus is our propitiation with Yahweh and I believe it to be true in heaven. Wasn't Moses also an advocate to God, El Shaddai, on Mt Sinai on our behalf when the people partied like 1999 while Moses brought down the Tablets of the Pact. God was going to destroy them and create a righteous nation from Moses. He talked him out of it! I believe we are now as that wanton nation rejecting God, for He is a longtime absent from us due to our entrenched sinful behaviors. Read the whole story before deciding that your "born again" and noone can claim that without a sinless life!

Prayers for Tammy Fuselier for addiction.

Genesis 4 . 26

Notice the word " began "

Pray that God brings peace in the home so I could stay here to receive my financial blessing. Pray against witchcraft and that I do not get evicted, being illegally thrown by witches to a mental facility, nor my dogs being taken away. Pray that God works in my favor.

Pray for my sister chaylynn protection and to be cured from any ailments and disease in her system immediately. Pray for her and her daughter's protection and deliverance from witchcraft and demons. Pray that my sister is delivered and receives a husband in Christ.

Who are the Sons of God in Genesis 6 before the flood of Noah?

Sons of God (ANGELS) shout before the world began - Adam man came 6 days later. How can Adam shout before he existed?

Job 38:4 - Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

Job 38:5 - Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

Job 38:6 - Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

Job 38:7 - When the morning stars sang together, and all the SONS OF GOD sons of God shouted for joy?

How can the sons of God be men since they were shouting for joy when the earth was created?

Adam man did not come till 6 days AFTER the earth was made.

Adam was a Son of God since he created him -

Angels are SONS of God since God created them and was their Father

Jesus is the only BEGOTTEN SON of GOD -

Believers DO NOT become Sons of God till they are born again of the Holy Spirit only in the new testament

So were all the SONS OF GOD of Genesis 6 the men who were ALL righteous

the DAUGHTERS OF MEN were all women who were ALL wicked and evil

So all the men were godly and the women were evil ?

Really can we believe this: all the men were godly and the women were evil

then the godly men and wicked women got married and believers and unbelievers had children who were GIANTS

so where are these giants today? Playing for the NBA?

2 Samuel 21:20 - And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant.

so see any unbelievers running around with 6 fingers and toes?

then the Lord commanded all the they be killed? What?

No the fallen angels tried to corrupt the blood line of the chosen seed. that is why the Lord commanded the Cannanites be exterminated.

Read Job 38 which tells you the Sons of God shouted for joy at the foundation (creation) of the earth.

Adam did not exist until 6 days after the earth was created. So how can the sons of God be godly men? Adam did not even exist to shout then.

since when do godly men marry ungodly women and then giants are born to them?

John 1:14 Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son of God.

Luke 3:38 Adam is called a son of God since God created him.

1 John 3:1 Believers do not become Sons of God till they are born of the Spirit.

So who was the Father of the angels? would they not be Sons of God also?

Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

I know most churches will argue with me and claim Genesis 6 is not referring to angels and I say they are wrong.

when do believers and unbelievers get married and have giants for kids? Goliath anyone?

Matthew 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God IN HEAVEN. NOT ALL THE ANGELS ARE IN HEAVEN, some were cast out.

"behold, i am the lord, the god of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?" king james version bible

" i will not leave you comfortless: i will come unto you." john 14:18 kjv bible

jesus loves you very much so much that he gave his life for you and us all i have just gone through something like this & it seemed i kept going round & round. kept praying & now seeking jesus more than ever in my life. don't give up tgats what the devil wants you to do. i've heard a many a preacher say if the devil is not trying to destroy, take steal or kill your joy, family some one you love dearly then maybe you need to pray. in other words you are growing in jesus & the advesary doesn't like it because the closer you draw to jesus the more you realize how the devil doesn't want you but to destroy you. lord, i come to you now with himble heart praying for this dear soul. father this day clear her mind, show her lord, comfort her in an almighty way so she knows lord it is your amazing grace that has touched her lift her spirit and let her experience and keep peace that surpasseth all understanding and be a blessing to everyone she comes in contact with. by your grace and mercy thank you jesus for this opportunity to pray for a sister in the lord. love you but jesus will always love you more.

Indeed, brother Mishael: each part of Christ's Body, fitly joined together gives the strength to the Body, edifying itself unto love. We all need to offer help where we can & how much so, when a dear one seeking salvation will be in a raging battle for her soul. The enemy is not far with his mincing whispering words but the Spirit of the Lord is closer with His potent Holy Word. We do cover Barbara in prayer for Light & Salvation to be her assurance & joy.

OH Lord: UNVEIL, restore myself helppp hedge of protection. Please pray for latch key kids Im continually seeing remove chip implant and any connection to latch key kids. Forgiveness for any sin here. Help OH Lord forgive me with this software and any connection to the dragon. Everyone for salvation, mercy, Gods love and His protection. Also praying for kids in Sudan and Yemen, every nation - state where these abominations are for salvation, mercy, and meds, food everything. Praying for their abusers and captors to bring on,for salvation, mercis, justice in Jesus Christ Name Amen Amen

Please keep me in your Prayers GOD bless you all

The bride at this time is in every nation and the women with the stars is Israel, when the antichrist army invades Israel and destroys most of Israel at that time, some will run into the wilderness for the time of the rest of the great tribulation period. I'm thinking America "The two eagle wings" will help her and protect her.

I saw in my life and family, how the voice of God thundered over the voice of satan in delivering my husband from death. glory be to the Lord in the highest.

i will praise thy name forever o Lord my God and king cause face to shine upon

me my redeemer and friend Amen

God gave man his main instructions, his symbol of authority, that is to manage the earth.