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I'm not the kind of person that points my arthritic fingers ( from drafting 22 yrs) at anyone.

We can see what we see. To me science is a point of view; beautiful to consider along with scripture. I believe in "let God be true and every man a liar". God doesn't lie to us. All we like sheep have gone astray to other interpretations.

I was an astrologer for 22 years: so I studied planets and stars. Rather than ask God, I did it myself. I had books of planet movements, forward, retrograde, forward again. All to interpret a seekers life. I wasn't getting rich off it, but I had notoriety. People believed in it through me. It is occult and in the Bible it carries a death sentence. Horoscopes are a lie. They draw us away from what God plans for our life. The stars didn't explain MY life. Then I met our Creator! It's burned into my brain the first time after that, I was sitting on a swing looking at the sky and all I saw was God in his creation! I wept buckets.

God hung the planets, stars, comets, asteroids and everything to circle the Sun. He orchestrates their movements. Earth is anchored by Him; protected by Him. Pure unadulterated faith in God keeps us safe in his care. The moons travel with the planets they are attached to. Sometimes forward, sometimes fixed, sometimes retrograde. We don't know why, because who can search out what God does? Someday only Gods Light will be our source. Don't you want to see that? A whole new view to be inspired by; with Him as the Creator of inspiration.

God has been teaching me all of my life since I was a child. I just don't know why. We're not just floating endlessly on this rock we call home: living, dying. Traveling aimlessly through it. Like ants, we don't see the foot thats coming down on us. We've been given the opportunity to search for WHO made all of this. Ants never look up.

God is Beautiful, through and through. Come and see the Goodness of the Lord!

Receive Him as Lord and Savior.

Beth-el was a major worship center in Israel, a rival to the temple in Jerusalem, which was the capital of Judah. The prophets criticized of this site for its pagan practices. Jeroboam I, the first king of the northern kingdom of Israel, caused a golden calf to be erected and worshiped here. 1Kings 12:25ff.

I would love for my mom to get better and to also see my dad someday

Peter Grant

I believe your approach may be backwards.

The best advice I can give you concerning understanding Scripture was found in a book called "How to Enjoy the Bible, by E.W. Bullinger.

If you believe in our heavenly Father and His only begotten Son Jesus Christ, then take the leap.

Read the Bible and BELIEVE it!!!

Read with common sense. In other words, keep and separate what is literal from what is FIGURATIVE. Not a page of

God's word can be turned without His use of figurative language.

Take advantage of Parallel Bibles, Bible Concordances, Bible Dictionaries, Etymological Dictionaries, Bible Commentaries, Lexicons, etc. to enhance your understanding of Scripture. The Bible was NOT written in English.

Build your foundation of belief.

Instead of comparing everything you understand of the world and trying to match it up with Scripture, now you can use Scripture to determine whether what you hear in the world is correct or not.

God Bless you in your journey.

Please pray for my daughter Paris Snowden she's I'll I need prayer for her recovery and my family we live in metro detroit I'm a Christian i do believe in the power of pray i love the lord and i know he's a way maker and a healer Thank you

Kim Burrow

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Paul also wrote that "the Law is not of faith: But the man that doeth them shall live in them" ( Galatians 10:12); quoted from Leviticus 18:5. And Paul immediately reminds us that "Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree" ( Galatians 10:13) quoted from Deuteronomy 21:23. Those that hang on trees have transgressed the Law. Paul uses two passages from the Law to show us that we cannot live without the Law?

James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

The words of Jesus confirm the 10 Commandments found in the books of the LAW, Exodus 20:1-17, Luke 10:27.

The only people that do not NEED the Law are those that are not sinning. No matter how righteous we may think we are, we all sin every day and are made new (every day) through repentance and forgiveness.

Just because we have been brought to Christ does not mean that we cannot fall away again.

Kim Burrow

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Concerning the abolishment of the Law of God:

The book of Hebrews shows us that the 7th day, the Temple, the Tabernacle, the Ark of the Covenant, etc., are a copy or replication of what God has already established in Heaven.

Hebrews 8:5 "They serve in a place that is a COPY and SHADOW of the heavenly meeting tent. This is indicated when Moses was warned by God when he was about to set up the meeting tent: See that you FOLLOW THE PATTERN that I showed you on the mountain in every detail;" from Exodus 25:40.

The heavenly pattern is what we follow, and God has not left us any information concerning that being changed in any way.

The fulfillment, partial or total that Christ has done in the Law does not make that Law abolished. For instance, the Temple is gone. We have become His Temple. The veil was rent from top to bottom ( Matthew 27:51) to show that we no longer need a priest to reconcile our sins for us. We all have forgiveness based upon repentance.

Fulfillment, in full, or in part, of the Law does not abolish it. What do you do with all other Scripture that does not agree with your assessment?

When Christ rose and spoke in the Synagogue on the Sabbath, He specifically left out the words in Luke 4:18-19 concerning the "Day of vengeance of our God" ( Isaiah 61:1-2) because that day has not come upon us all yet.

Christ came to fulfill the Law, not abolish it. Has the Law been completely fulfilled? No. We are still under the Law, which

Paul states "is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself" ( Galatians 5:14)

The "curse" of the Law is a persons' inability to keep it. That "curse" is what Christ has taken on for us. Not the Law. The Law is just and perfect. It is humans that cannot remain righteous; not even a single day of our lives!

Kim Burrow, Comments concerning the 7th day, Law, and Grace.

Concerning the Sabbath:

The Hebrew definition of the word "week," or "weeks," simply means "sevened."

The Greek definition is clear, as the word "week" is defined as "Sabbath," i.e. the 7th day (of a seven day period); the day of rest.

The 7th day was established for ALL of mankind back on the 7th Day of Creation ( Genesis 2:2, 3) and was never abolished.

( Mark 2:27-28) "And he said unto them, The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the Sabbath."

If we believe in the Father and His only begotten Son, then we have Christ in us every day, not just one day per week.

This new understanding is an enhancement of the 7th day, not the abolishment of it. It was made to last forever. This is a day that God BLESSES and SANCTIFIED! Christ always honored the Sabbath. The Apostles kept the Sabbath; look at Acts 13:14, 27, 42, 44, Acts 16:13, etc.

Pentecost is a holy SABBATH day; i.e. a day of rest.

The "first day of the week" spoken of in Acts 20:7, concerns the first Sabbath in reckoning the seven Sabbaths until Pentecost. (i.e. the first day of the Sabbath. Week = Sabbath.

In Acts 17:2 and Acts 18:4, Paul is continually feeding the people Scripture on the SABBATH. Christ never abolished the Sabbath; neither did Paul. God never said anything concerning that fact, and if He wanted that day changed He would have made it abundantly clear.

To pluck a few verses out of Scripture and declare a law of God to be null and void (especially with so much Scripture speaking contrary to what you are proposing) is playing fast and loose with His words.

*Look at the book of Enoch; specifically chapter 72 and 82 (column 27) concerning the ancient Enoch Solar priestly Calendar. A 364 day calendar (52 x 7)

Ephesians 4:26. "Be ye angry, & sin not: let not the Sun go down unpon your wrath". He teaches us how to bridle our anger in such a way that, even though our anger is fierce, yet it does not break out, and that it is without delay quenched before we sleep. And this is so that satan may not take occassion to give us evil counsel through the wicked counsellors and destroy us. If it so happens that you are angry, yet do not sin, that is, bridle your anger and do not wickedly do that which you have wickedly conceived. Let not the night come upon you in your anger that is, make atonement quickly for all matters.

He who dwealeth in the secret place of the MOST HIGH, shall abide in the shadows of the ALMIGHTY. I will step out in faith and call the evil one a liar. My FATHER is my Salvation. I will not be scared of the enemies around me continuously trying to steal my joy. All chains in the name of JESUS IS BROKEN.. My children, granchildren, and great-grand are protected. Bring good , caring Angels into our life and may we be receptive of them when they arrive. Keep us always FATHER in your Grace. Forgive our ignorance. Thank you for allowing me , is another day to get it right. Bless the families FATHER who have been targeted for racial injustices. We had MARTYERS AMONGNST us. OUR FATHER IS WATCHING. HE'S SENDING HIS AMBASSADORS. IT'S DONE SAID THE LORD OF HOSTS. GO IN PEACE. HALLELUJAH

Provisions or Possessions

In this chapter we see how God despises Israel's pride as the people competed in extravagance while they continued to suppress the poor. In making application we see how the Lord hates a proud look as it is self worship. The Lord provides all of our needs and there is nothing wrong with providing for our families but when our provisions become possessions or idols the Lord will judge. How about you? Are your provisions from the Lord a possession of pride? Let us learn from our text today and the example of Israel to see how their pride of their possessions at the expense of others brought them the judgement of the Lord.

Deception; I think is what it is really all about

Also for me, it is about the nature of my research and my thinking, I check it as soon as I think about it. The problem is that I wake up early, when it is still dark, thinking about it and if I don't do it then; I can't remember my thoughts on it in the in the morning. I have research all issues; all in vanity; and it was enjoyable; except I was younger then and now; it is time for good nights of sleeping and a regular life style,

I once thought that I would become a writer when I got older and that sleeping in the day and writing during the nights; my best hours for thinking would become my lifestyle and that I could do it as God is with me; but I don't think that He minds if I quit because I feel that I have done the job that He trained me to do.

And I think deception is deceiving people and we know that the Bible does not agree with that. So I would say that it say that we are suppose to discus the Bible of course as Christians as other, of course discus their religions also and in so doing; we can look after one another. Take care that no man deceives you and that you deceives no man; and that is why we discuss scriptures to be sure we do that.

I did not come to discuss scriptures, I came to do the job that I was trained to do; and I think that I have done that. If I am right on with what I say scriptures say about deception; then I know that my job is done, and it is time for good nights of sleeping and a regular life style,

Please pray for myself to have peace and quiet. Amen

PRAISE THE LORD

this website is very useful to me

I have a a prayer request pray for are country { INDIA }

Lord Jesus.Thank you for salvation keep my heart and soul in the true righteousness of God AMEN

Leaster, the Book of Proverbs has generally been attributed to King Solomon (v1). The first seven verses speak about the purpose of this Book (to give forth wisdom, knowledge, understanding, etc.). Then from verse 8 onwards, Wisdom personified, speaks, giving instruction in various aspects of life & its experiences. As you read the Book, & you have questions in understanding verses, then present them here as someone may be able to guide you.

Great comment Kim & very true. While reading the part about the Sabbath, I was reminded of Rev 1:10, when John on the day that he first heard from Jesus, the Alpha & Omega, was the Lord's Day. Interesting, that he didn't call it the Sabbath but referred to it as the accepted term for a separate day to that observed by the Jews. So yet another piece of evidence that the Sabbath was no longer recognized & the Lord's Day was set aside as Sunday & the day for worship.

Thank you for sharing your testimony

Greetings and God bless you Misheal - I always revert to - How does it compare to what The word Of God says.

Most of the "Scientists?" believe in a big bang starting life, and Apes turning into humans.

Strange but I can't seem to find that in any of the bible translations. Another thing I 'll run by you Misheal is this

They also tell us we are spinning around the Sun and the Moon!

I read in the Bible - In the beginning God created the heaven (singular) and Earth - The Sun and Moon had not been created until V :16 - what was the Earth spinning around then?

No Christian has yet to been able to give me CH & V to show me it spins and set my mind at rest, So I keep coming up with questions they would rather not hear All they can muster is Isa 40:22 But Hey! a CIRCLE is not a Ball

Any picture the scientists present are all CGI including the Earth

what are your thoughts on that Mate?

I'm not pointing a finger at anybody and saying "You are wrong!" All I want is someone to give me scriptural proof that i am the one that is wrong

Gods rich blessings to you and your family

Teboho, I see that both these accounts, referring to Spiritual Gifts, as complementing each other. I don't think that we should necessarily look at these lists from the apostle, as exhaustive. They may well be other gifts that have not been specifically mentioned. But what is evident, is that God wants His Church to be well equipped in serving each other, for the building up in our faith & blessing of each other. After all, we are a community within a community & just as parents give all due care & instruction to their children, so the Church, with its members so gifted, should also use those gifts for the building up of one another in love. It may be true that certain gifts may not be seen or even necessary in a fellowship today, but the Spirit does give each one a gift to be used to edify the Body.

You may, or may not have, a gift from the Spirit that is listed there. It may be something very unique, just as each one of us is unique in Christ. The important part is that the person with the gift or position is not elevated (as was being done in Corinth, 1 Cor 3:4), but rather that the Church grow & the gift in that person be exercised. How do we know our gift? It won't come as a letter from Heaven but most likely as we walk with the Lord & are active in our Fellowship, we will sense our special God-given abilities, our direction, our joy in service even when it gets demanding, because we will know that this is the Lord's doing & enabling & blessing to the Church must be the result.

Job 40:4

Would you explain it please

Thanks

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Neither. Because the Law of the Life-giving Spirit has taken those righteous commandments of God & now written them in our hearts ( Heb 10:16). Isn't this then the same thing as being obedient to the Law? No, when we obey the Holy Spirit & not looking to the letter of the Law, our obedience to God then comes out of a renewed heart/spirit that has all that is necessary to obey Him. And this also includes the Fruit of the Spirit, walking in the Spirit & the Law of the Spirit & the Law of Liberty (Js 2:12). So when the Law says, Do not kill, we now know that it also applies to those who are angry with another without cause. When the Law says, Do not commit adultery, it now means even just the act of looking at a woman with lust ( Mt 5:21,22,28,29). If we want to buy a bunch of grapes, are we immediately convicted if we want to just take one to check if it is sweet? Or, do we justify our actions?

We have never denied the righteousness of God's Laws, but the Scripture tells us that only through Jesus we can be saved & only by His Spirit we can keep God's Laws that went beyond the letter & that which is now inscribed in our hearts. So even if we didn't have Scriptures as mentioned in Matthew 5 to teach us, I know we would still be aware of its Truth as the Spirit teaches us God's Holy demands upon us. We don't need to know God's Laws as they are already written in our hearts & we can choose to obey to enjoy God's fellowship & favour or disobey so allowing our sinful nature to resurrect itself.

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Mercy Seat ( 1 Jn 2:1. God now meets us through Christ Who is our Mercy Seat, for the expiation of our sins & averting the Wrath of God from us).

So, it is only through Christ that we can see God's Holy requirement for His people (Jew & Gentile alike). If God saw us through the keeping (obedience) to the OT Law, then the Cross of Christ is made pointless & of no effect. Hence, Rom 8:3 reminds us that the Law was weak through the flesh (i.e. inadequate/ineffective because of our inability to fulfil the whole Law). If we sinned in even one aspect of the Law, we have sinned in all (Js 2:10). There was nothing wrong with the Law: it was our inability to keep the whole Law that proved our sinfulness, which meant that God had to send His Son, His Word in the flesh to take the punishment for us. Why? So that the righteousness of the Law might then be fulfilled in us & not in the keeping of the Law.

Are they correct, who say that we must obey the Law? If they maintain that we have to obey God's Law to the letter as well as being saved by grace through faith, then that belief is in direct violation to the meaning of the Cross & what the apostles preached & gave their lives for. In biblical terms, we never have to obey God's Laws as given to Israel to be right before God, because they could never work; we now look to Jesus Who fulfilled those righteous Laws in Himself, so that our focus is not on the letter but on the spirit of the law. So, Rom 8:1,2 gives the best description (transliterated): we who believe in Christ are no longer condemned by the Law, because we now live by the Spirit of God. Why? Because the LAW OF THE LIFE GIVING SPIRIT has set us free from the Law that only showed us our sin & brought death. And so how does this work out in our obedience to God? Do we still come by faith in Jesus & obey the Law to complement it? Or, if that is harsh, then maybe we just keep the Laws in our minds to guide us in our Christian walk? (onto Page 3.)

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Teboho, what has been suggested to you concerning obedience to the Law is not entirely correct as far as the biblical meaning & application are concerned. Maybe it's only on a technical point but when it comes to such an important subject, we need to understand the Scriptures correctly so there is not only no confusion in our minds but also to others when they hear/read this message. So, in defence of the Word on this subject, I submit the following for your consideration & comparison to what you have heard elsewhere.

I doubt if anyone who truly believes in God, in His Son & the Word, could ever say that 'Christians are free to do whatever they like since we are not under the law': this is called antinomianism ("freed from moral law by virtue of the Grace given in & through Christ"). To say this, shows our gross misunderstanding of God's Laws, Whose "Laws are holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good" ( Rom 7:12).

So the questions that we need to ask & address: what are the Laws of God, to whom were they given & what was their purpose? We know that all the Laws given to Israel (as shown in Exodus & Leviticus mainly) were given to them & not to the Gentiles (these were not God's chosen people & not in God's (OT) view for blessing & eternal life). These Laws (the whole Law, including those pertaining to ceremony, festivals, daily life), including circumcision, these made Israel distinct from everyone else, as well as the Tabernacle with the Mercy Seat, where God met with His people. So, all the commandments given to Israel, not only identified them as God's Chosen, but also, through prophecy, pointed to a later, perfect fulfilment of them. Therefore, we understand that God's Son, Jesus Christ, was sent in complete fulfilment of those prophecies, whether in the Law ( Mt 5:17), Circumcision (not cut in the flesh but in the heart by Christ's sacrifice & worshipping God in the spirit, Phil 3:3-5; Col 2:11), (cont'd on Page 2.)

I can say , I even lost count of how many times God has saved or helped me , and yet does more when , I get upset , I try to remember all times God has picked me up

Please pray spirit of conviction fall upon my bksld daug danele tht she no longer have no peace to eat sleep or drnk until she repents and walk away from drugs alcohol and sex please pray for my finances

Proverbs 1: what dose it mean?

Praise the Lord with gladness,praise the Lord with singing,praise him with string instruments,praise him with high sounding cymbals, praise him with thank giving, praise him with everything you have. God have been so good to all of his people no matter how we have been; God bless us anyway. Hallelujah glory to our lord.

11-19 explains, though she was very blessed by Jehovah /GOD, she as a whole loved and included sins into her, see verse 5. 11-19 explains how she filled the void of the world especially pretending to be a defender of life, liberty, , she was blessed by GOD to be a light to the world and to sit as Queen of global commerce, thereby Merchant sailed to her from around the world to buy & sell & sell and buy, causing her money to become great globally, and her money sailed around the world into every country or king's treasury. But in one hour so great riches is come to nought because of her sins. Her money printing machines SHALL go up in smoke and everybody on earth shall be broken-heated,see verse 11. Somewhere it is said the LOVE of money is the root Thank GOD for verses such as John 3:16-21, thereby all who will, can obtain SALVATION.

I agree about the.demon activity.

The word of God tells us to keep ourselves unspotted from the world.