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YOU please back up in Acts chapter 9:3-16. I hope you have red letter edition. Jesus was speaking in verses 4, 5, 7, 10, 11, 12, 15, 16.

Verse 15: Paul is a chosen vessel unto ME, to bear MY name...

Jesus audibly spoke because several people heard it; verse 7

You may as well give this up now. Jesus spoke. Paul was CHOSEN.

Philippians 3:2 and Revelation 22:15

Beware of dogs ( Gal. 5:15), beware of evil workers, beware of the concision ( Romans 2:28)

Revelation 22:14-15.

Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the Tree of Life, and may enter in through the gates Into the city.

For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

You have to stop and ponder on what real dogs do. Their noses are always where they shouldn't be, etc.

It's stunning to ponder. I've worked with people like that. Run in packs; respect nothing; have to be the king of the pack.

I said it was brutal.

A spirit is a demon; dog spirit.

Yasser Davin,

I'm sorry, but I still don't see Paul lying about anything. I've read the accounts that you are referring to. Jesus did tell His disciples that they would not physically see Him again after His ascension. Paul, on the Damascus road never said that he physically saw Jesus. Paul said he saw a light from heaven, and he heard a voice from heaven. He never said he physically saw Jesus. So there is no contradiction there. I'm sorry that you view Paul as a liar and someone who fabricates the truth. I just don't see it, and I'm not going to agree to it.

I would like to start out by thinking each and everyone who have shared and given me the time to read some of your comments. It's not every day that i take time to set and read bible verses and spend time with my father. although I pray and ask him to use me, I surrender, God is a merciful God and I want to spend more time with him and doing his will. just as you have given me a chance to comment there are other brothers and sisters out there, that God want to reach though us by commenting and connecting each of us to his will.

Though God I can do all things

Chris,

Thank you for your great reply! I am so much enjoying this website, & commenting with others about the Lord! I think you may be right about the thief on the cross because since my last comment I remembered something! When Jesus was crucified and was raised, He appeared & was talking with His disciples. He told one of them not to touch Him because He hadn't ascended into heaven yet! So, how then was He in Paradise with the thief when they gave up the ghost?

All scripture is given by INSPIRATION OF GOD and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

2 Timothy 3:16

You know you are bored when you start calling people liars! In the Bible. Go take a walk. Get fresh air.

Please pray for me to get rid of ALL parasites in my body, I think I got them on a mission trip to Africa.

thank you.

Yasser so you are telling us the book of acts is wrong for telling us the story of Paul's conversion. The book of 2 peter that acknowledges Paul as a brother in the faith is wrong. That the Holy Spirit FAILED to warn the 11 apostles that Paul was a fake? Is that what you are telling us in your statement? I want to be sure I understand. If Paul is a fake then all the above would be true.

The Bible teaches both GOD,S sovereignty in electing sinners to salvation ( John 6:44, Romans 8:29 and Ephesians 1:4.and we are commanded to evangelize and spread the gospel( Matthew 28:16-20)Why evangelize if we are predestined?Because we were commanded to do so.I believe the gospel is Preached mostly to the believer anyway .Because the unbeliever does not want hear what you are saying any way.It is totally the work of GOD. There is away I believe,to embrace predestination,and election without having our hands bound by it,when it comes to evangelism.For scripture teaches both sovereign election and necessity of evangelizing.Paul addressed this issue in ( Romans 10:13-15).R.C.Sproul commented on that passage;GOD not only foreordains the end of salvation for the elect,He also foreordains the means to that end.We are called to share the gospel and to respond in faith and obedience.So you see evangelism is still necessary in light of GOD,S sovereignty in salvation for two reasons:(1)GOD has commanded us to do it.(2)This is GOD,s chosen means of advancing His kingdom on earth.We have that privilege of being used by GOD to accomplish HIS will.What a blessing to by to bless others with the words of the BREAD OF LIFE. The apostle Paul was sent by the LORD to preach the gospel to JEW and Gentile.That by hearing they might believe,and so call on the name of the LORD and be saved.But there can be no true calling upon GOD without faith no faith without hearing no hearing without preaching and no preaching without a divine calling.Every man calls upon the god he believed in.And those that do not believe in GOD and Christ do not call on them.How shall they believe in him whom they have not heard;meaning that there is no faith in Christ without hearing of Him.There may be believing without seeing,but not believing without hearing.

Praise God! first and fore most I would like to appreciate all of us who actively participated in every comments we have been going through. Mind you, for those who have taken this page for granted the bible says in the book of Ecclesiastes 12:14 that" For God will bring every deed into judgment,with every secret thing, whether good or evil" and we should give account of each and every we deed to fellows or the Holy spirit! God bless you all in Jesus' name.

I think that if the Bible doesn't say why, then it's not for us to know

Carl, I want to thank you for the prayers and encouraging words that you give me. I can tell you it has helped me a lot during this time. GOD has showed me something's and to stay away from. I want to thank you again Sincerely your brother in Christ always

I know that God was watching over me when I was very young. I should been electrocuted several times,I should have been shot, by a shotgun. Burn do to and explosion, twice. That when I was very young; I'm 63 years old now, and God have been calling me all of my life. I tried to drink it away to gambling it away: if God would have given me my just reward that I deserve, I personally wouldn't be here.but because of his mercy and grace; and with all of the chances my Lord has given me: I finally accepted the call to the to the ministry. Thanks be too God,hekept me from falling any deeper in sin. We need to wake up, repent, pray turn back from all of our wicked ways. Reference to revevelation.

The Apocrypha already exist before 1611. King James simply authorized its translation same as the old and new testament. It was in the previous translations as well. Without the Apocrypha we loose 400 years of history

Isaiah 53:5

"But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.". ...." Tattoos yea some more than others"

There is no reason to say the people Jesus was talking to weren't saved. I'm sure there were false converts back then too but the warning is to those whose names were already written in the book of life if they didn't repent.

In the parable of the sower doesn't it say, "and they BELIEVED for a while but when persecution arose for the word's sake, they were offended..."?

they didn't count the cost. Back around 60 to 70 AD, the Romans ran out of trees to crucify Jews on. When Jesus told his disciples to "take up your cross and come follow me", they knew exactly what could happen to them. In North Korea, they tell them if you come to Christ, it may cost you your life tomorrow. totally different than the gospel we have been given in America. This is why I am so concerned about the pre-trib teaching. It has no real warning to those. We are one of the few nations that havent' suffered real persecution. I have had a lot and mostly from churches but I evangelize quite a bit. Some have been put in prison like Kent Hovind was unjustly in 2005 for ten years in Florida. Very few have suffered anything. I hope you subscribe to my channel as I am going to show how many passages have been taken out of context or words added to the verses that are not there in the original languages to make it fit the pre-trib teaching. This is very deceptive. I care about you Jesse. You seem to be a great guy and very sound on a lot of issues. God Bless. I am sure we will talk again sometime.

YOU: "Hi Robert,

You partially answered my question, so I'll take what I can get. I have heard of the Millerites. But don't know much about them as I never took the time to do any research on that group. Also, I've heard of people being "on-fire" for the Lord. What I have learned over the years, is that most of the people who are "on-fire" people are new believers. I'm not even sure how I would describe someone being on-fire for the Lord? I remember when I was a kid growing up, I walked by a church that had the side door open and inside there were people flailing their arms around, jumping up and down, and screaming things I couldn't understand. It definitely wasn't English. I was pretty young so it scared me. There are things that stick with you your entire life, and that was one of them. I guess you can say they were "on-fire" for the Lord. I've also seen people in church that seemed to be on-fire for the Lord, but that fire seemed to be quenched as soon as they left the parking lot, and they didn't get it back until the following Sunday.

ME: I actually got saved at a pentecostal church. Some of the stuff going on today in many of those churches might be kundalini. Actually an old grandma praying for the lost her whole Christian walk and sometimes that is all a person is able to do is equally as on-fire as a person preaching the gospel with the anointing.

YOU:

So when I hear of someone being on fire, that does not tell me much because I've seen people on fire burn out and leave after a few months and no longer want anything to do with the Lord. So being on-fire for the Lord does not really prove a person is truly saved. The parable of the sower comes to mind.

ME: A fire can burn low for sure. Jesus tells those of us to come back to your first love.

Greg, I see your point, as Jesus could have at anytime, whether during his Ministry or standing before Pilate in judgement, done something that would show them His Divinity, or even escaped from them. But was this in God's Plan for Jesus & the World?

John 12:27 speaks of Jesus in agony of His impending death, which meant bearing the load of mankind's sin as well, cry out to the Father to "save Him from this hour; but for this cause came I unto this hour". So Jesus had it in His Power to thwart the wicked plots of the Jews & Pilate, but refrained because of the wiser Plan of God for dealing with our sins.

Even after His Resurrection, he could have given witness to His Divinity & the Power of God, & no doubt that would have shaken them to the core. But would all be convinced? Would 'the people of planet Earth' in the future take note of that witness by Jesus? Jesus gave the story of 'the rich man & Lazarus' who had died ( Lk 16:19-31) which gives us insight to this. The rich man, in Hades, is in torment & longs for his five brothers on Earth to be warned that they don't come to the place he was at. Jesus replied, that the Scriptures were available to them to learn about this, but the rich man pleaded that Lazarus who was in comfort should be sent to his brothers to warn them (as one coming from the dead). But Jesus' reply: "If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." So Jesus knew that even His presentation to the people after His Resurrection, may convince some, but not all, & of course the rest of us would very likely also reject Him, as so many do now.

And besides all this, all things that Jesus did, was according to His Father's Plan. And this included, for reasons not revealed, that Jesus should not promote His Resurrection except his revelation to those closest to Him & for this witness to be carried into all the world by His servants, as those who were there to see it all.

Mahlon & Chilion were Naomi's sons. They married two Moabitish girls: Mahlon married Ruth ( Ruth 4:10), so Chilion must have married Orpah.

Of course, like anything published on the Web, even from books I suppose, one needs to examine & accept the information given prudently. Thus my suggestion to do other research besides Wikipedia. Though, as you may have found out, that Wikipedia does give quite a good narrative on Moab's history which I couldn't easily fault.

What is the statement just before this section "the 1611 bible the he verson " reading that threw me a bit

Leviticus 15:2; 3 & 13 All speaks of an issue of blood even in these verses of a man. Therefore, since, for the woman with an issue of blood, it is not mentioned where her discharge is coming from. Just doing some critical observation in my study, and hanging on to every word. We can not assume the answer. Also, it is mentioned of the woman as passing the flowers of her seed as her menstrual cycle. To me this is two different things; (Issue of blood vs Flower/s of her seed). because it is something that a man has an issue of blood also. I would like to know what is his issue of blood. I will continue to study, in order that I may find the answer.

Chris, obeying the law or the commandments is the key to Paradise as Jesus said on Mark 10:17-19, Matthew 5:17-19....It is only Paul's teaching's of eliminating the law ( Romans 3:28) and relied only on the death and ressurection of Jesus because according to him without the crucifiction and resurection there is no salvation....But is it really true that the death of Jesus on the cross is the only way of salvation?....And if it is, where in the 4 canonical gospels did Jesus said that my death on the cross is the only way of salvation?..But if you can't find, I conclude that the theology of death and resurection is Paul's own theology and has nothing to do with the real teachings of Jesus.....See also Ezikiel 18:20-21

My niece is going through a divorce and her ex is requesting for half of her retirement .He refuse to sign the paper. This has being going on for three years. She has found out he has another wife. Pray that God will allow everything in her favor.

Paul is not an apostle of Jesus, he doesn't even saw Jesus face to face, drink or ate with him...But he is a murderer since the beginning....The only way that linked him to Jesus was his alleged vision which also a big fabrication because of the inconsistency of his statement....Pls. read Acts 9:19-29, 26 :19-21 and Galatians 1:15-23 and see the inconsistency of his statement

Chris, if when you reference Rom5:13-14, you mean there was no Law of Moses, no Levitical Law, no 10 Commandments, then who could be held accountable. The import of the passage is that All Have Sinned and Fall Short of the Glory of God. Sin was imputed even to those that didn't sin like Adam. 5:14, "Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression.'

The Law is God. And the Law was written in our hearts. There was one Law in the Garden, "DO NOT EAT". It was posted on the Tree (figuratively speaking). If there is a sign in a Ranch that says, DO NOT TRESPASS, is it OK to walk in? Or is the trespasser breaking a Law? Clearly, the 10 Commandments had not been given. But the Law at the Garden was plain as day. "DO NOT EAT". Adam and Eve ate. They broke the Law God imposed. They disobeyed.

Now, a law written in the heart is not the same as an Edict. God's Edict was "DO NOT EAT" and it came with a penalty. The day you break this Law, you will be put to death. And the Universe will be cursed. And you will be expelled from the Garden. No such law attaches to conscience, which only creates guilt for the Day of Judgement.

I have tried to provide as much Scripture as possible in this short space, and am responding to your statement on one I provided. The Question is, are you perplexed and defensive, or are you trying to see exactly what I am getting at? Are you looking at additional Scriptures? Now, I didn't know Angels could cross species. Please explain. Thanks.

Hi Trevor, hope you are stay well

I am praying for you.....

Neil,

Are you referring to James 1:8? If so, it says "A double-minded man is unstable in all his ways."

Double-minded can also be translated double-psyche. What this is telling me is that I can ask the Lord for wisdom ( James 1:5), but I have to understand that wisdom is gained through enduring trials by faith. And so when he says if any of you lack wisdom, let him ask from God, we have to be careful. If I say "I would really like to have God's wisdom," okay, but I'm going to have to go through a lot of trials.

My personal definition of wisdom, and it's the word Sophos by the way, but my personal definition that actually summarizes its application in the New Testament is that wisdom is seeing life as God sees life. It's like looking through His eyes!

1 Corinthians 2:16 plays a big role in this, that we have been given the mind of Christ. The word mind is the word Nous, which means perceptive. By His Spirit, we can perceive God and His working in our circumstances. That's wisdom, seeing life as God sees life. Now how am I going to do that? By experiencing Him, and by enduring and totally trusting the Lord Jesus Christ!

So I can ask the Lord for wisdom and then freak out as soon as He starts putting me in tough circumstances. My emotions would be flying all over the place. I'd be calling all my friends asking what I should do. It could lead to panic and anxiety.

We have to understand that we ask and we enter into trials in order to endure through them by trusting the Lord. But we have problems with that sometimes. It's like I know I should be trusting the Lord and I know what the bible says, but look what I'm going through, and it's a big mess. That is an unstable person, a double-minded man, that can't be ready to ask for wisdom. They've got to learn to endure their trials first.

Chris, discussion leads to growth, edification, faith and maturity. When we refuse or fear exploring ideas, doubts, concerns and Biblical Doctrines, Church Teachings and limit ourselves to what is generally accepted and legal in that group or denomination, we become victims of indoctrination.

Studied people will often not contemplate or take time to discuss and explain the difficult things. They are too busy being pompous and arrogant. I had the advantage of learning from one of the best Presbyterian Ministers ever. But he was humble, kind and loved to talk about every issue. He was a Philosopher Theologian, who mentored under Donald Barnhouse himself, at 10th Presbyterian in Philadelphia, Pa.

Regardless, I try to retain an open mind. What Rev. Ralph Hibbitt taught me was invaluable and it is the basis for all my questions, curiosity and desire to learn more. I wasn't always receptive to what he taught. But he was always patient and right on the mark. My own personal background spans the gamut of denominations. I appreciate them all and share things in common with them. But when I fit in one, I am rejected by the other. I believe Baptism is symbolic and not necessarily by immersion. I believe in the Gifts of the Spirit. I adhere to the Reformed Tradition, I am reject Church Entertainment, Declare it and it is Yours Fantasies and Prosperity Myths. And I consider myself an Evangelical proponent of Mission Work. So you see how things are difficult for me in Churches that won't discuss these issues. Churches that limit you to indoctrination?

And now that I have been exploring things, like a population before Adam and Eve sinned, a Phased Creation nominated DAYS, the Symbolic nature of certain things in Genesis and other subjects, you can see why Christians don't want to discuss them with me. We have all been indoctrinated, though some more than others. And if we don't talk, with an open heart, I can't learn and make corrections and those reading can't either.

You've gone to far about my arguments, I've only qouting John 16:10 because Jesus said you can't see him no more but Paul suddenly saw him in his alleged vision on his way to Damascus....Now, in Acts 9:19-29 according to Paul he had preached at Damascus in the name of Jesus and he was with them (disciples) coming in and out at Jerusalem and continued in Acts 29:19-21 that he had shewed unto them of Damascus and at Jerusalem and throughout all the coast of Judea and to the Gentiles......and then contradicted by him in Galatians 1:15-23 it says " But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace, to reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood: Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus. Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days. But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother...Can you see the lies of Paul now?...