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Moon
The "Love Covenant" of God The Father is with His Wife, God The Mother first, then to their Spiritual Children.
Gender starts in the Spiritual-Realm of God The Father, and God The Mother first, and that's not a bad thing, so accept it, and get over it!
Genesis 1:26,27, Galations 4:26
The perfect-order of a family is, Father, Mother and Children, spirit ually first, then physically. To be a true Child of God, you need to know your Spiritual Parents, and accept Them.
However, because of "the fall", the sin of Adam+Eve, an evil spiritual-realm of darkness now exists, and too many men are rejecting the perfect-order of God, MelquisedecLisbet.
In the Spirit-Realm every thing exists before it exists in the physical-realm; like houses, cars, animals, plants, spices, men, women, male, female and all the details, design and spiritual engineering that go along with these things.
The Spiritual Light of God, Jesus Christ(The Holy Spirit in the flesh, God The Spiritual Mother), and God The Spiritual Father, with Their Spiritual Children, will eventually totally eliminate the spiritual-realm of darkness of this world.
The Pulpit Commentary might shed some light on this.
"Christians seem to have taken this advice when the city was attacked by Costius Gallus, about A.D. , some three or more years before the siege under Vespasian. Gallus had appeared before the walls, and apparently had every hope of taking the city, when, for some reason not certainly known (either owing to a supposed defeat, or ignorance of his own success, or the advice of his generals), he suddenly withdrew his forces (Josephus, 'Bell. Jud.,' 2:19, 6, 7). The Christians, bearing Christ's warning in mind, and having, as we may conjecture, seen the predicted sign, took the opportunity of flight from the doomed city, and made their escape to Pella."
I don't know why prophecies have historical "shadows" of what is to come, but clearly, mention of Judea does not mean the message was for the Jews. We can't argue in favor of something, from silence. At best, we can say Christ mentioned Judea because He was in Judea. Matt 4:25 says, "Large crowds from Galilee, the Decapolis, Jerusalem, Judea and the region across the Jordan followed him."
As most likely with you, I was taught a dispensationalist view of Scripture. And there are things in that that make sense. But, Christ is warning all of us that the Coming and our gathering up to Him will be Immediately After the Great Tribulation. That's why He goes on to warn us to be prepared, in Chapter 25. There is no Pre-Trib Rapture. As Bob Hilt pointed out, if there were, then there would have to be more than 2 resurrections. Two are mentioned. One at the Coming and Rapture of Christ and then the 2nd.
Yes I will pray, and I wish you courage in the battle! God will help you win!
I don't know your personal situation, but if it's ok, I'd like to share a little thot based on my own experience...
Sometimes we can pray and work hard to fight off the devil / negative thots and feelings. Sometimes tho, there is amazing victories when we start looking for, and doing good and positive things. (This in itself is not salvation; that only comes thru Jesus' blood.) But there are many positive things we can do to overcome the devil's negativity, and God turns the tide of the battle for us.
Some simple things could include: finding someone on this website who needs an encouragement; if you have a family - bend over a little extra for each one of them; if you leave your house - make a conscious effort to smile or have a friendly chat with those you interact with; etc, etc the list could go on for days!
Please pardon me if these thots are not applicable to you at this time; I only mean the best, and wish you every success in your Christian life!
Carl
Thanks for sharing your heartache...it is so hard when young people who have chosen God's way, become discouraged and lose heart in their Christian lives. And when they express themselves thru anger, it makes it even sadder and hard to know how to help them! But there is so much power in a mother's prayer, and I can sense that you love him and pray a lot for him. Keep that up, we also will pray for him. And for you too, that you can keep your faith while God keeps working in your son's life.
I love today's verse of the day, and it is so fitting here "Commit thy way unto the LORD; trust also in him; and he shall bring it to pass." Psalms 37:5
God bless!
Carl
1. God prepared a body for Christ
2. And He prepared that human body before creation ( 2 Tim 1:9)
3. And God created mankind in His image
4. Then, can we conclude God created man so Christ could have a human body in His image?
Or was it accidental? God either created man in His image on purpose and with a purpose, or the body for Christ was a convenient accident. Wasn't the Law, to include sacrifices, set up by God as a Shadow of what was to come? If the Law was a Shadow, what was it a Shadow of? For there to be a Shadow, there has to be a real object that casts that Shadow. And which comes first, the shadow or the object that casts that Shadow? Col 2:17. And if a Shadow, when was that Shadow cast? When God used an animal to clothe Adam and Eve? When Abel offered a better sacrifice than Cain? Or when Abraham offered his son on the altar?
We see from these Scriptures, I hope, the Shadow of Christ's Sacrifice was cast prior to anything being created. Heb 8:5. Consequently, is it fair to conclude that both the Shadow and the object that casts that Shadow, Christ, were for Christ to enter the world as the True Sacrificial Lamb? Col 2:17, Isa 49:6, 51:5.
Isaiah 40:3 sounds the call to prepare the way for the Lord. You said, "It does not speak of man being created to open the way for Christ to come & be his Sacrifice." But if the call is not to man, who is the call to? Who was to come? A man. Why did God make man in His image? Because an animal could not meet the needs only the Man Christ could satisfy.
And when did Christ start casting the Shadow? He started casting the Shadow back to the beginning of time, from the 1st Century Cross, to before creation. John 8:58. Which came 1st, Man, Shadow or Christ?
Israel is being pushed to accept a two state solution. God gave the land to Israel. Israel is back in their land and now LOVE their land and intend fully to defend it. There is a lot to look for the heartbeat of scripture.
Nite yall
You can also visit with your loved one in prison, attend to his needs, phone calls, encouraging words from the Bible, & all these under girded with much prayer, that the Lord Who sees all things, will turn the hearts of men in power. Your loved one must never feel abandoned & he should use his time in prison wisely, whether in work there as an inmate, or volunteering help to the prison system, or even having spiritual discussions with others (if he is allowed to). The authorities will notice the different person that he is, & no doubt his behaviour & submission to authority, may just lessen the sentence given. Most importantly, your loved one needs to keep his faith strong & not succumb to Satan ploys & to daily seek to use God's Love & Wisdom to minister to others. Blessings all round will surely be seen.
And as I'm about to send this off, I see another comment from you, re: the two trees. And now I focus on: "The Genesis account of the Garden is clearly allegorical." Taking a deep breath & staying focussed, I believe that I can now in truth, understand how you are perceiving Scripture. To say that the Garden of Eden & subsequent events were an allegory, leaves a great chasm between us that can never diminish. If that Garden was an allegory, what about when Jesus was led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil? One could allegorize this as well quite easily. Therefore, I feel that I now have a handle on your thoughts about all we discussed, and that is, we are basically viewing the Scriptures in quite different ways. Again, thank you for your time Carlos, & I will attend to other points that you might raise, but of course with a better understanding of your perceptions.
You said: "I repeat my previous assertion that, corruption was an inevitable consequence of creation. Were that not true, God would not have created an existence susceptible to corruption." So the other aspect I see here (in a similar thought to 'Planning' & 'Foreknowledge'), is that you are possibly viewing God's Plans from the end & working backwards; so working backwards: God's Plan was to have a perfect restoration of all things since creation would undoubtedly be corrupted (i.e. the end of the Plan), but to get there, Satan had to be locked away for good, Christ had to come for sin, corruption of man & His other creation had to happen, Satan had to come into the picture, & therefore, God had to make a creation susceptible to that end (the beginning of the Plan). I realize you may not see it this way, indeed I may be quite wrong, but it's the only way I can make sense of your views.
My view (with the Foreknowledge of God) works from the beginning: Creation of all things is perfect, Satan entered, man sinned, corruption of man & creation occurred, Christ had to come, Satan would be locked away, & God's Plan for a perfect restoration of all things realized. Anyway, as I said, this type of view (of Planning or Foreknowledge) does help me understand. (onto Page 4)
The word that I find is better suited is 'Foreknew'. Using the same scenarios of a world created perfect but would ultimately be corrupted, that man would fall into sin of his own choosing, that Satan would undoubtedly tempt him to do so, etc., are what I see as God's Foreknowledge, rather than His Planning. Even after studying your detailed explanation on these matters, I cannot fathom a Holy God planning to engineer certain things (which would necessarily include sin) from Creation to the full restoration of all things in the future, so that His Plans & Purposes would be realized. I rather see that He foreknew all things, that even in Creation, he knew man would corrupt himself, that Satan would not be far away, that the sacrificial system given to Israel was only temporary & a shadow of the True, that Christ must needs come to deal with the sin issue, that Satan would be finally be locked away & full restoration of all things be accomplished. Now how this 'foreknowledge' of God relates to His 'Planning' to accomplish all things, maybe a 'fine line' of interpretation. But I see that God's Foreknowledge determined His Plan to accomplish His Purposes, & that nothing would take Him by surprise, for He already knew all about all events. I agree, that He knew beforehand that His perfect Creation would one day succumb to corruption, but I see that He also continued on with creating, knowing that through man's knowledge of his sinfulness & need of a Saviour (which man couldn't provide), that the love the man lost because of sin & separation to God, would now be restored in full measure in the knowledge of God's Love for him in Jesus. (onto Page 3).
Carlos, I had replied to the first page you posted in your lengthy response to me, but I don't see it anywhere, so I'm going to try & deal with the crux of these matters, though appreciating the time you've taken in your detailed response. As well, I'm now inundated with your further postings, finding myself quite buried & gasping for air. I have looked at all of them, but I don't think I have the capacity & fortitude to deal with each matter. So with apologies for dealing so briefly as opposed to the time you've kindly expended to me, I write the following:
The two key words used here is 'Planned' & 'Foreknew'. You have used the word 'Planned' often & I think that I'm not seeing the meaning in your way. Planning, for me, is when (in human terms), one sits down & sets a Plan on paper which brings in all manner of aspects for consideration, including possibilities for the proposed Plan to go one way or the other, hurdles, time lines, etc. When I apply it to God planning for certain things to happen (e.g. creation of man so that Christ could come to save him; planning the future so that certain things could happen & God Himself would be subject to it, etc.), I think of just that: God has laid out a Plan for events, good & bad, to happen & so His Purposes are fulfilled. That man was created into corruption, so Christ could enter that world of corruption to rid man & the world of it, was His Plan, causes me to gasp at such a thought. (onto Page 2)
Jeremiah 3:8 "And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of DIVORCE divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also."