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I would like to share a view with you. Not that it's true but one that I find provocative.
Eve was named or perhaps given the title "The mother of all living" after Genesis 3:15. I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and HER SEED. This is where we find the first prophecy of Christ, who's coming to redeem all of God's creation, (Lifting the curse on all of creation )
Adam calls the woman Eve/Woman of all living prophetically.
HERE'S WHY.
Eve was to "become" the mother of all living because it was through the seed of the woman that all that was living redemption would take place. Christ.
Adam named all the animals before the woman hit the scene and the woman was called Eve after the fall and the prophecy of Christ.
God bless.
The Holy Spirit instructs us of a holy family and it was determined before the worlds were founded. It is thus the Spirit begins with Adam who is a double for the Son. Even in a figurative sense is meant to be the body of Christ, the church. In the story of Cain killing Abel who was the righteous one we see Seth taking his place so the holy family may continue. This also gives us a reason why God sent his Son to the world. We who were dead in sins may be brought into the fellowship of God with Man. It is thus at every turn we have the holy family continuing to the last chapter. The Bible is not about history of Israel, natural world but about God who is a Spirit and our blessings determined before ages describes of inheritance of saints in the kingdom of light.
In the Ch.5 of Genesis you may note how the Spirit makes a distinction between the holy family and others. In vv.6-7 Enos belongs to the family sanctified by God. "And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos/And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters. " This is repeated over and over. Noah was righteous in his generation. "And the Lord said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation."(Ge.7:1) Noah is a double for the Son who leads a holy family which foreshadows Christ leading his bride Re.21:1-3
Bread from heaven (2 of 2)
God sent his only begotten Son and the Spirit sets an action from the nation of Israel in order to emphasize what he was there for. In the divine Will of God, which is multi-layered, Jesus, the Lamb slain before the worlds began is same as the Lamb of God. Similarly of the corn of heaven the Israelites were fed with manna. In the fulness of time He sent his Son. Jesus declared, "I am the living bread which came down from heaven."( John 6:48-51)
Manna is qualified as 'angel's food'. Angel in this context refers to word of God and referring to the will of God they are the saints called according to the pleasure of His will. When Satan tempted Jesus he challenged him., "He said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread./ But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God."(Matt.4: 3-4) Satan without understanding the basic quality of bread of heaven for which his body had to be broken first, was merely shooting air. ("My meat is to do the will of God"- John 4:34) Angel's food refers generally speaking to the will of God which preserved the cloud of witnesses of whom we in particular are shown in the night vision of Daniel. The writer to the Hebrews speaks of them, "seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses,"(He.12:1-2). They in short refer to the world of the Spirit and our heart about which we are working out our salvation with patience.
Bread From Heaven
"And trusted not in his salvation:/ Though he had commanded the clouds from above, and opened the doors of heaven,/ And had rained down manna upon them to eat, and had given them of the corn of heaven./ Man did eat angels' food: he sent them meat to the full."
This Psalm can be taken as a warning the Spirit has laid out while setting Salvation Plan of God in terms of the heaven and the earth. Specifically he is addressing Israel, which as a nation did not trust in his salvation. He gave them the bread from heaven as he did with water in the wilderness. "He clave the rocks in the wilderness, and gave them drink as out of the great depths./ He brought streams also out of the rock, and caused waters to run down like rivers." (vv.15-16). St Paul refers to the rock 'as spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ."(1 Co.10:4) The Spirit in keeping with the Salvation Plan set in motion, speaks of the rock as spiritual, signifying how we are to approach the narrative. So God when cleaving the rocks in the wilderness refers to 'the great depths', which does not mean from depths of the earth in the normal speaking but he adds next to it, 'caused waters to run down like rivers'. His footsteps are not known so "And a river went out of Eden to water the garden" is merely extending the waters above the firmament which as a body of water refers to the mercies of God.(Ge.2:10;Ps.77:19). When the Spirit says, "The LORD sitteth upon the flood; yea, the LORD sitteth King for ever. The Lord sits enthroned over the flood" it merely underscores the sovereignty of the Lord God. The earth and the fulness thereof belong to God. (Ps.29:10)
You are missing my point. As we look at ( 2 Pet 1:19-21) you and brother Chris are saying the holy men of God in v21 are (clearly) the Old Testament prophets and writers of the OT. If that were true that would mean the (prophecy) spoken of in all three of these verses was the Hebrew manuscripts, Right? For readers today that would mean those verses are history, not prophecy!
Yet the rest of the chapter IS (prophecy) that applies to us for today.
The subject of these three verses is (prophecy)
( 2 Pet 1:19) a more sure word of (prophecy).
( 2 Pet 1:20) no (prophecy) of the scripture.
( 2 Pet 1:21) the (prophecy) came not in old time by the will of man.
Then as we look at the rest of the chapter we see that it is also (prophecy) that applies to us for today.
If you are right then this chapter is prophecy for the time we live in now all except for verses 19,20, and 21 which would have very little value to the readers of today. But if you are wrong (and you are on this) then these verses are telling us the (prophecy) of the scripture (the prophecy meant in these verses would be the New Testament, not the Old Testament. and the holy men of God were the translators of the KJB, not the OT prophets) came not in old time by the will of man but holy men of God who spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
That would mean ( 2 Pet 1:19-21) is also (prophecy) for us today, it is showing us how we got the (prophecy) of the scripture that we have in the KJB today, not how the OT prophets got the Hebrew manuscripts which would be history for us today.
History is not prophecy! (prophecy) is prediction, a foreteller.
Blessings to you Spencer.
There is much prophetic scripture in Zechariah; much of which can be directly connected with prophecies in Revelation; as well as with the first coming of Christ. There is the idea of the New Covenant replacing the old one with Israel but never a total abandonment of Israel where God eventually is destined to establish His people in peace and prosperity in the Millennial Kingdom.
Zechariah 1 begins with a description of the earth being at rest (verse 11); but the expected promises of the end of captivity in mind in verse 12. Verse 13 indicates an affirmation of words of comfort to an angel that apparently communicated with Zechariah on these matters. Verses 16 and 17 indicate prosperity to return with the rest of the chapter indicating the "horns" (V. 21) that had scattered the land of Judah.
We need to be mindful of the reasons for the captivity as shown in earlier verses 3 through 6; this is a repeated theme in scriptures; much as Daniel at around the same time would pray in regard to the scattered people (see Daniel 9:1-19). In fact; many prophets begin their books with a review of rebellious acts such as Isaiah 1 where even an ox knows it's master but the people are dumber than animals ( Isaiah 1:3). Ezekiel also talks about the woe of the people being obstinate ( Ezekiel 2:4); and is put into bands to signify the captivity and had to eat food cooked with cow dung (as a concession to protest of human dung in Ezekiel 4:14 (ugh). Finally the last book of the O.T. Malachi also starts discussing poor attitudes among those who are offering sacrifices. Blessings are promised for those who would truly sacrifice with the right attitude (contrasted with Malachi 1:8) in the third chapter from verses 10-18.
The sins of Israel will not be fully removed until the Lord is about to return ( Zech. 12:12-14). Thankfully we cannot thwart HIs eternal plans or we all would be finished. His mercies are renewed daily ( Lamentations 3:22-23).
St Paul had in his days come across such believers who were lovers of themselves that the doctrine of Christ was as any other doctrine and they put themselves as judges. Then there were Judaizers the false brethren 'who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus' (Gal.2:4). While writing to Timothy, he warns of the perilous times, of believers. Then as now. The Christians are urged 'to abound in every good work' and we have activism instead. Whose is stoking the controversies?
"That they might bring us into bondage," is the work of Satan. The devil sins from the beginning and Jesus Christ was manifested to destroy his works. ( 1 John 3:8) We shall take a quick look at the mischief he has wrought ,-and the controversy of state and religion did not arise in our time but was the outcome of war in heaven. "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon" (Re.12:7) In the vision of Daniel we read of it, "And it (he goat) waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them./ Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host."(Dan.8:11-12). In the the same chapter we are given to understand the events telescope into the end times, "Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision." (8:17)
It is of the little horn we are interested in and where does his authority come from? We shall note that he did not win by the might of his own. It was given to him as in the case of the beast." And the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority(Re.13:2,11) So Daniel supplies us one trait of the little horn and he emerges into the history of nations "but not by his own power." He needs anti-Christ, and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. This is what we ought to take heed? 'Another gospel' has Jesus talk but his concord is with Belial.
"This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come" ( 2 Ti.3:1-5)
In a consumer society there are only two groups, who are suppliers and who are consumers. From whence came this opioid crisis? Lovers of their own selves require much more than basic needs. The word of God says "And be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee."(He.13:5) When use of recreational drugs one may graphically set increase of use which always go up and when it take hold of man we also see a curve downward in terms of the consumption of his own basic needs. He is obviously no longer in control of his management. Such is a perilous time for him and it affects him as the consumer as well as his own family.
God instructs us to be content with such things as you have.' He also promised your welfare both life and godliness. Excess has never remained static without disrupting something else. God commanded Adam not to eat the fruit of a tree he could well do without. Satan managed to take hold of his will without his knowing through Eve who was deceived. "She took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat."(Ge.3:6). When man has neglected the truth in his own inward parts what use is the knowledge of good and evil? The perilous time is when Satan has found a supplier and you have no chance of changing the system he has devised as long as you have let the truth by the wayside.
"For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,/Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,/Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God." We are looking at the same ways of the world, the Vanity Fair and Satan is the barker shooing the simpleminded to their peril.
You are absolutely right!
Enjoy your vacation.
May the Lord bless your trip.
Matt.13:9-11
How shall the world ever come to senses when " For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God."(1 Co.1:18). Wisdom learned after the traditions of men was foolishness to St Paul. It is thus we need make a distinction of wisdom in its its true sense.
The problem with heresies is that carnal wisdom dictates the word of God. "For with you is the fountain of life; in your light we see light."(Ps.36:9). Instead of seeing through the light of the Savior a man however otherwise well accomplished when he lets his wisdom take over the conclusion shall be outright false. If the scholarship of St Paul did not deter him from knowing Christ one need ask why few are chosen though the call went out before the worlds began.(Is.55:11) "If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself." ( John 7:17) Anyone may do the will of God but many cannot bring themselves to to receive like a child. "Many are called but few are chosen."
Matt.13:9-11 (1 of 2)
"Who hath ears to hear, let him hear./ And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?/ He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given."
At the end of the Parable of the Sower Jesus uses the expression 'Who has ears' we are already familiar with. The Spirit uses it after each message to the seven churches, for example after his message to the church of Ephesus he says, "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches;". The same formula seven times repeated which ought to tell us that not all have the same level of understanding. The seven names are interchangeable and many are called but few are chosen and it tells the raison d'etre for the mysteries of God. God is a Spirit sent the word before the worlds began and the key to understand it is so simple that even a child could do it. Faith is the key.
Before mysteries there shall be no beaten track. Straight and narrow is the path leading to it. "For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:/ But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise." St Paul was learned by any standards but he chose the foolish things of the world in order to suffer with his master. "And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are."(1 Co.1:26-28). Nevertheless in the sight of God he was the learned because his ear of faith was most attuned to listen. "He wakeneth mine ear to hear as the learned" and he learned by obedience in the manner Jesus in the flesh learned. "Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered."(He.5:8)
Ps.78:1-2
"Give ear, O my people, to my law: incline your ears to the words of my mouth./I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old"
"Testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." The written word, and it is the God document that we call the Bible has only one centre of gravity which is the Word become flesh. When Jesus began his ministry how he should lay across the message, - he was the message so in a manner of speaking it was cut out for him beforehand. Isaiah foretold this. "The Lord God hath given me the tongue of the learned, that I should know how to speak a word in season to him that is weary: he wakeneth morning by morning, he wakeneth mine ear to hear as the learned."(Is.50:4). To hear as the learned it is the wisdom that is from above and it can only help us. "But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption."(1 Co.1:30) Of God he is made unto us wisdom.
The Lord knows man so when He sent his only begotten Son he also taught him what he and how he should say. Of this the Son of man himself testified. So he said, "If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself." ( John 7:17) Here we come across why there is so much controversy, needless and devilish in its effect, and it is not from Jesus who of God has become wisdom. And Jesus outs the problem, "If any man will do his will" he shall know whether the doctrine be of God or of man. God makes a distinction as to who is amenable to benefit from hearing the word of God. Scholarship of the proud is in their intellect. "Though the LORD be high, yet hath he respect unto the lowly: but the proud he knoweth afar off."(Ps.138:6)
"Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot./ And Philip ran thither to him".(Ac.8:29-30) The eternal word and Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever gives us where we fit in. In the fellowship of God with Man we are associates of our Savior Lord and as angels serve one another. "But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:"(1 Co.1:30) With such calling we have in Jesus Christ the perfect example. Carnal wisdom is devilish and cause controversies whereas wisdom from heaven works out peace among brethren. So if testimony of Jesus is misunderstood one need examine himself well where he is seated, among the congregation of dead where the seat of Satan is. "But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:/ In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."(2 Co.4:3-4)
The Spirit moving upon the waters is the same as that prompted Philip who was his angel, to all intent and purpose. It is thus we are surrounded by the world of the Spirit. Christian life is a closed system where God is our shield and our reward."I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect. "(Ge.17:1-7)
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Re.1:1
"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John"
"How can I, except some man should guide me?" The question that the Ethiopian eunuch asked Philip the Evangelist is pertinent in understanding the significance of testimony of Jesus Christ, which itself is a revelation that God a Spirit and also the Word, -and in giving to Man, He made his holiness manifest, so whosoever received it was translated from his human circumstances to the world of the Spirit. Love is the bank across which man traded on the single bill of exchange, faith. As a legal tender in heaven and earth the slain Lamb before the worlds began is valid till the end of time. So when we speak of testimony of Jesus as the spirit of prophecy its validity it backed by the power and glory of God. (Re.19:10)
The angel reveals John after stating the mystery of v.10 the Word of God on a white horse fitted out to reclaim the earth usurped by Satan and his cohorts. "And I saw heaven opened,"(v.11, We read this in the inaugural vision of Ezekiel as well. "And I saw visions of God"(Ez.1:1) This heaven when opened reveals each of us is set in face to face with the world of the Spirit. In the creation account we read thus:"And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."(Ge.1:2) every drop of vapour is equally placed face to face with this reality. So when God framed the worlds by the word this testimony of God was as a matter of course part of the deal. Later when God breathed into man and made him a living soul theologically one understands what it is to have truth written in our inwards. No man may accuse God of partiality, God made it known to him.(Ro.1:20). The Ethiopian eunuch need not have worried for help was at hand to enlighten his eye of faith.
Re.19:10
This helps us understand what St Paul writes about our calling. "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:/ According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love." (Ep.1:4-5) Our heavenly places are in heaven and we are not to be lumped by the swine of Gadarene whose agenda always has only one direction, headlong into the sea. "Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace;"(He.13:8). We are angels because all our well springs are in our Savior Lord. We are dead to sin but are alive to God; and are led by the Spirit given to us as an earnest.
"Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach./ For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come./ By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name./ But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased."(He.13:13-16)
"Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,/ Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;"(He.12:1-2)
Re.19:10
"I am thy fellow-servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." (19:10)
The 'angel' addresses himself as a fellow servant and it is a clue: first we shall check what Jesus had spoken, "Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you." ( John 15:15) Jesus Christ as the Servant King knew it first hand. He is the Son, only begotten in the sense he is the Word become flesh. So there need no other citations required.
The angel is connected to Jesus Christ as much as John is. One is in flesh and blood by circumstances living out his banishment on the isle of Patmos. Yet he is free to be in heavenly places in his master. The angel is part of the cloud of witnesses which we saw in the night vision of Daniel the Seer. "One like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, "(Dan.7:13). These clouds appear from time to time and it is always in association with God. "who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind." The Psalmist inspired by God places these in heavenly places. When He accords a vision to Prophet Ezekiel he sends the four living creatures from the midst of it. "And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire./ Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures." (Ez.1:1:4-5; Ps.104:3)
Sorry but you are taking this verse out of context Jordyn. This verse doesn't say one could come into the Kingdom by what was written in Moses and the prophets.
( Acts 28:23)
It says Paul testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, (which is the Torah the first five books of the Bible), and out of the prophets, this is all the prophets who have books written in the Old Testament, or in the Hebrew manuscripts.
The word (testified) is #1263; it means to attest or protest earnestly, charge, witness, to be a witness, testify, give (evidence) bear record, be well reported of.
Paul was pretty much preaching the kingdom of God convincing them concerning Jesus.
The word (persuading) is #3982; it means to convince (by argument, true or false) to assent (to evidence or authority) to rely (by inward certainty) assure, believe, confidence, trust.
Blessings to you Jordyn.
The Israelites are camped east of the Jordan on the plains of Moab. Over the next 40 days, Moses will teach this new generation how God had brought them out of Egypt with mighty miracles, how God spoke to Moses on Mt. Sinai, commissioning Moses to deliver His Law and the terms of the covenant God will make with the nation, how the nation rebelled at the border of the promised land and thus spent 40 years wandering in the desert until all who came out of Egypt over the age of 20 died.
This is a new generation, the oldest being below the age of 40 with the exception of Moses, Joshua, and Caleb. Most did not personally experience the miraculous exodus from Egypt nor the events at Sinai. It was important for this generation to receive instruction as to the covenant and law given to the nation, be reminded about the promises God had made with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and to learn from Moses how to live in relationship to God.
Moses knew that His life was almost at its end. God had said so. He must give over this people he has led for 40 years to Joshua and Caleb and Eleazar. But ultimately, he gives them over in submission to God. He knew that there was much to relay to this nation and so most likely he wanted to be sure to put first things first in what he delivered to the people. He needed to follow the lead of God in all of this and not seek his own way.
I believe we both was sending our messages at the same time.
I was in the middle of a 3 page message answering your question on carnal approach.
I took a break from further readings until now.
After reading your messages I wish I hadn't answered that and walked away.
God bless.