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were can I find the Apostles Creed in he Bible

My answer to your first question is yes, that is my position. If you understand what takes place at the point of salvation, then maybe you'll see why I take that position. Free will? We're allowed to make decisions. But every decision we make is based on what or who we love the most. We either submit to the persuasion of God's Spirit telling us what He wants us to do, or we submit to what our flesh wants to do. Which one do you submit to? You say some "Christians" turn to evil, and denounce Christ, and then you say it is unfortunate? That's not unfortunate, especially since Paul says that division is necessary? Those "self-professing" Christians who turn to evil and denounce Christ were never saved or they wouldn't have left (1 John:2:19). You bring up Judas. Was that unfortunate? No, not at all. Jesus chose an evil man to fulfill His plan.

There is not enough space here to answer all you question, but I will answer in a separate post.

This must be why I'm still alive after comatose for several months

How to know the bible is true

I find it intriguing how we keep on ignoring the fact that God says to all of us " - - I have shown you the end from the beginning" - - Isa 46:9-10, Mat 5:17-18

Mishael in Genesis 1 - in Reply on Genesis 1:1

Thank you for your comment; encouraging

peter

Hi Chris, thanks for your response. I think the OSAS view contradicts itself and contradicts scripture.

The statement "Christians cannot blaspheme" contradicts Christians having freewill. Either Christians have freewill or don't. Some people were Christians then denounced it, like Marilyn Manson, Hitler, among many others. So we have the personal evidence on Earth, and scripture evidence including Matthew 10:33 and many others.

> "But the believer has to be on guard against Satan ( 1 Peter 5:8) & to "work out (attention to) his own salvation with fear & trembling" ( Philippians 2:12). A constant warfare, requiring vigilance, but the believer remains secure in God's Perfect Plan for him."

These verses also contradict the OSAS movement. If a Christian is already saved why would they need to be on guard? What is there to 'work out' if salvation is already decided?

God doesn't create evil, but allows evil, because he allows freewill to choose right or wrong. Satan is allowed to tempt us just as God allowed Job to be tempted and tested. We are all being tested while here on earth.

BTW, Chris I think its risky to call someone foolish or a fool because of Matthew 5:22.

Does ether bible talk about eating shellfish.

His name was Lucius Artorius Castus, which doesn't fit into your six-letter formula.

Rod, I gave the definition of being saved by grace and you replied in a manner saying I'm incorrect. Then you continue by using the apostle Paul's writing which say works are not involved in our salvation.

Clearly, James writings on faith and works contradict Paul's writings on grace.

Therefore, I neither call the apostle James or the apostle Paul liars.

I say it is both.

We are saved by grace after all we can do, says neither James or Paul are liars.

Many mislead others by using Paul to call James a liar.

If you meet James , the apostle of our Lord, when you pass on you can say, I used the apostle Paul to call you, the apostle of our Lord, James, a liar.

When I meet James and Paul, I will call neither a liar because I believe the truth.

There is no eternal life in th written word,eternal life in only by the living word, My words are spirit and life.Peter says being bornagain by an incorruptible seed even by the words of God that LIVIETH and abideth for ever ( the living word ) which is spirit and life.IF WE CD BE BORNAGAIN BY READING THE BIBLE JESUS SHED HIS BLOOD IN VAIN AND THE CROSS WAS JUST FOOLISHNESS. There was no other nation as sola scriptura as Israel but Israel stoned almost every prophet and REJECTED th Christ and Jesus was the LIVING WORD THAT THEY REJECTED.Its not about paper and ink but the blood of Jesus th living word of God the stone the builders rejected.The bible is precious and holy we need the bible written word. but there is no eternal life in the bible per se.The bible is not God but the living WORD IS TRULY GOD.His blood in not in the bible th written word but his blood is truly in the living word thats y he says you are made CLEAN by the WORD i have spoken unto you WHICH IS SPIRIT AND LIFE .

Gwynn, you're on very dangerous ground to believe that God created both good & evil. I had an uncle who also said similarly & he believed that since we have good & bad things on Earth & since He is Supreme, that God also created evil. How wrong & foolish he was. God can never be a creator of anything evil. Either God is Good or evil, not both. Can the Devil also share this inconceivable trait? Never, he is altogether evil. How about humans? Some say we can be both good & evil. The Bible teaches us that all of us are inherently evil ( Rom 3:23) (i.e. we all have a sin nature passed down generations from our first parents), that even if we commit the smallest sin, then the whole person is a sinner. ( 1 Cor 5:6 speaks about a little leaven = sin, leaveneth the whole lump). God is Holy. There are many, many references to this, but apostle John gives us a vision of Heaven & sees the heavenly beings cry out "Holy, holy, holy is the LORD God Almighty, which was, is & is to come" ( Rev 4:8).

Thanks Rod!

Hi Melissa,

Blessings on you for asking for prayer. I'm sorry for his loss and how that's affecting him and you. While I'm not a grief counselor per se, I do know you're on the right road by sharing about your burden, instead of bottling it all up inside; now we can all help you by begging God for your situation as both you and your dear one walk the path of grief - he for the loss of his mother, and you for the loss of relationship you used to have with him.

Romans 8:28 "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God"

God bless.

Who was the mother of Mary the mother of Jesus

Ya think that Mary cd have fallen away or lost her salvation ( the Child ) the Son of God,th living word of God no way.Jesus said to them that hath shall more be given,her Child grew more and more in statue with God and man and we are like MARY in that we must be born from above but the child we birth is spirit th h.g. our new innerman,christ in us.as we have borne the image of the earthy we must also bear ( birth ) the image of the Heavenly.thats y he always refers to himself as the SON OF MAN.mankind has to bring forth fruit unto God which is the H.G. THAT RESULTS FROM HIS SEED THE WORD TH LIVING WORD NOT THE WRITTEN WORD THAT GENDERS TO DEATH BUT THE LIVING WORD.MY WORDS ARE SPIRIT AND LIFE THAT genders to a baby Christ born in us.My lil children of whom i travail in birth til Christ is formed in you th ( son of man ) Thus we cannot fall away if we birth Christ in our hearts the child is th essence of God the child of PROMISE EMANUEL God with us.She brought forth a man child th H.G.

Hi June,

Very sorry to hear about your son's condition. And your added burden of visiting restrictions at this time. I pray for his healing and for you too.

Deuteronomy 33:27 "The eternal God is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms"

Patricia, if you're referring to the matter in Numbers 12:1 ff, then verses 1 & 2 refer to Aaron's & Miriam's objection to Moses' marriage to an Ethiopian woman & God's prophetic use of their brother Moses, instead of them. Or at least, that they too should be able to give prophecy to the children of Israel. We don't know exactly how this all started or the level of anger & objection they raised against Moses, but it was apparently severe enough for the temporal punishment of Miriam (with leprosy) for her sin. I've always wondered why Aaron wasn't also punished at that time. Maybe because Miriam was the instigator of this sin, as well as Aaron being the High Priest, which position shielded him from God's Anger.

Jesse, I too appreciate your comments here & do always look for them, as from one who correctly divides the Word of God & has an intimate relationship with the Godhead. I know we may never agree on everything - who even does or can? - but what is essential is that His Word & His Love is enriching us daily & we together "press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus". The Lord give you His Grace & Wisdom in your life & your contributions here.

1John 1:8 if we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us .we sin by words thoughts and deeds

Yes Jesus Christ paid the price on Calvary for us He came to take away the sins of the world that does not mean the world is sinless .it is only those that are washed in His blood are free from sin.

(from previous comment). 5. Christians can never do wrong. Christians can sin, but the Holy Spirit convicts & repentance must follow; the unbeliever or phony Christian has no such check, repentance or restoration. 6. Can a Christian sin as much as they want? Not possible. A Christian cannot pursue a life of sin: his works (manner of life) are proof of the genuineness of his conversion ( Rom 6; Gal 5:19-26). He can sin at times, hence the instructions & pleas by the Lord & the apostles to new & mature believers to abstain from all appearance of evil; how to deal with temptations; how to find victory. But the believer has to be on guard against Satan ( 1 Pet 5:8) & to "work out (attention to) his own salvation with fear & trembling" ( Phil 2:12). A constant warfare, requiring vigilance, but the believer remains secure in God's Perfect Plan for him.

Jesus said even as Moses lifted up a serpent in the wilderness even so must the son of man be lifted up,Jesus is our bronze serpent spritually speaking,We are still in the wilderness, sometimes we get bit but if we behold the lamb of God our snake bite ( sin ) is not fatal aka as Grace etc. Behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world John preached, John knew we wd get bit sometimes in this evil world but no condemnation to them in Christ Jesus.This bronze serpent was a metaphor, the 1 st sign of Grace to come in Christ Jesus. The law was given by Moses but grace and truth came by Christ Jesus.I.E. the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made us FREE from the Law of Sin and death SNAKE BITE AND DEATH in Moses time. Behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world.The Church is like th Red Heifer we still have sin RED but when the baptism of fire comes we will burned to Ashes at the door of the tabernacle ( door of our hearts )Our God is a consuming fire gbu

Adam, I'll only address the 'apparent' errors I make in my comments.

1. Freewill. Yes, all Christians & unsaved have a freewill (to sin). 2. Blasphemy. Not possible for Christians. Blasphemy is the accusation one makes against the Holy Spirit that Jesus' Works are generated from Satan ( Mt 12:24-32). 3. God's non-forgiveness to blasphemers. As above: Christians cannot blaspheme. 4. "Not well thought through". The purpose of my phrase was that God's Plan of Salvation WAS well thought through, but IF His Plan allowed for a (truly) saved person to be lost, then the Work of the Cross has failed in that person's salvation. God's Plan is Perfect, "all that the Father giveth Me shall come to Me...I will in no wise cast out" ( Jn 6:37); "sealed with the Holy Spirit" ( Eph 1:13, 4:30, 2 Cor 1:22). (see next comment).

Your comments appear mystical & your interpretation of the Bible, allegorical. Was this something you learnt, or from personal belief through mental calculations & surmises? If the Bible says ( 2 Pet 3:8) "one day is with the Lord as thousand years, & a thousand years as one day", could not that mean, that in Eternity, time is not measured by Earth's time schedule? That is, one day on Earth could even be a thousand years or more, (or less), in eternity? And to place the sequence of biblical books as representative of days of creation, surely must stretch the intent of Scripture to the point of personal invention & speculation? If, as you say, there is no more sin in the world, even though the evidence is overwhelming, then what do you make of the other Scriptures (e.g. Acts 3:19) that urge a person to "repent & be converted that your sins may be blotted out". Is this Scripture too, and many more, also then mysteriously put aside, or even reinterpreted to fit into your belief?

please keep me in your prayers

"But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world."( Galatians 6:14 )

How to understand " by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world." , I am not sure of what I am understanding.

Hebrews 6:19-21 A forunnner is a lil vessel or boat that carried the anchor and dropped it in shallow water so the ship can be firm. We are the big boat Christ is our forunnner that took our hope and anchored us in the holy of holies . When Christ was on the cross and he gave up the ghost of spirit the veil torn . The lord is the way the truth and the life . He anchored our hope hidden in him and only thru him . No matter what storms we face and no matter how rough the waves crash against us we are firm and secure in who we are in him amen.

Melchisedec is from, "the beginning."

And you may want to check out 2Peter 3:3-8, with Isaiah 28:9-10 & Hebrews 5:10 bringing Melchisedec into the mix?!?