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Rod how do people get saved in the tribulation when the dispensation of Grace is closed?

Do they have to keep the law?

Rod please explain where the pre trib rapture is as I can not find it.

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

16 ...and the dead in Christ shall RISE FIRST

17 THEN we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them...

In Rev. 20:4-5, John sees the souls of Saints who were BEHEADED for refusing the Mark of the Beast during the Great Tribulation. John writes that they will rise and reign with Christ for 1000 years and that this is the FIRST RESURRECTION!

according to John, the beheaded rise in the FIRST resurrection and Paul said those who are alive and remain are not caught up until AFTER resurrection

Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

We are changed at the LAST TRUMP and where is this found?

In REVELATION, the LAST BOOK of the Bible there are 7 trumps and the 7th trump is the LAST ONE and is at the end of the tribulation

It is Revelation 2:12,13,14,15; John 8:44 & Isaiah 14:13,14,15 at the crux of our story.

The sons of God are angels .

And the KJVInterpret may show us the corruption of 21st Century "Christianity."

Hey John! :) glad to see you here. Grab a Bible and let's taste and see the goodness of the Lord.

There is but one Interpretation in the KJVBible, which Paul shows us, written afore in the letters of the KJVText. The Interpretation is built upon the telling of the days of the Creation. There is no, "private interpretation;" this is the only interpretation there is! Amen.

Chris: My brain was reworked to street preaching. Much easier than warning Christians. I make a list of people skipping their way to being weeded out as a goat. Then I sit on the floor by my bed and pray for them. I ask the Lord to send workers into the harvest to witness the love of God to them before it's too late. I thank Him for rescuing me and pulling me back with that shepherds pole. Our sinful slip ups help us reach out as a disciple of Jesus. Jesus was humble of heart, on task, merciful and knows what we need. He has never hit me in the face with the Bible. I only see lost people. If our prayer life is rich, the Holy Spirit will help us to think less about judging the sin and "come let us reason together; tho your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow; though they be red as crimson, they shall be as wool. Isaiah 1:18, 43:26, 29:18.

There's a scripture about a full stall (kinda funny) but I view it as a productive prayer life. Jesus is interceding and so should we.

The only way Jesus is able to tell us about the generations is through the ancient stories in the KJVInterpret, as presented by Paul. Scientific concepts such as, "M-Theory," and "Black Holes," they are willingly ignorant of.

"...star of your god Remphan..."

Anybody wanting an interesting study;

A six pointed star as a symbol of the god of Saturn.

Kinda sounds familiar does it not? A pagan symbol that has plagued the Jewish people for centuries. Where did the "star of David come from?"

The KJVBible was said from the beginning and third day of the

Creation; unfinished, Jesus came by water only and sin would remain in the world on the third day of the

Creation, for they in the KJVBible. However, for us here now, the world has no sin

because Christ Jesus came by water and blood; died on the cross and took sin

away from the world, Today, the fourth day of the Creation.

Or should I say; thank you, our Universe is made in the dispensation of the grace of God, Amen.

The apostle Paul has demonstrated for us; today, how God uses signs in the grammar to tell us about the days of the Creation for the,"generation," living in other dimensions; of which we cannot even know, lest ye sin in the KJVBible. Now; Today, the KJVBible can educate us about these things existing in other dimensions. And with Science we may see that the world is perfect; there is no sin. Science is proof of the perfection this Universe that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

I'll be 69 in July :D

I was born again on Yom Kippur 1985. I was doing a horoscope with a friend. She said, it seems to make sense but the Bible says it's WRONG! (Has a form of godliness but denies the power) Her face disappeared and I was seeing Revelation 1:14. It was a vision that changed me instantly. Sometimes I think He was burning scales off my eyes. My ears open so that silence was so loud! Someday I'll Tell my testimony.

Yes, it is your perspective. The Holy KJV Bible is about the days of the Creation, as given in Genesis 1. KJVText comes from the beginning, in Genesis 2:4 to the book of Psalms; the book of Psalms is for the second day and the book of Proverbs begins the third day, which continues throughout the NT. This logical format is demonstrated by the apostle Paul in 2Peter 3:3-8.

The reason why there appears to be sin in the KJVBible is because on the third day, Christ came by water only. It was not until the fourth day; Today, that He came by water and blood and sins are forgiven.

Matthew 22:32-33...7:15; Ezekiel 34:12

John 10:12, 8

Luke 15:4-7

1 Peter 2:5

People are sheep, or a goat. Jesus is THE SHEPHERD. He will know who is what.

There also are wolves in sheep's clothing and ravening wolves.

If the sheep are lost, we need to take them over to 1 John verses 5-10; particularly verse 9. Show them how to get all that mud and stickers out of their wool. Baby Christians need to learn to run to Jesus and pray verse 9. Lay it all out and admit everything. They learn to love clean and Light.

A new commandment 1 John 2:8-17

1 John 3:10 in this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness, is NOT of God (a goat); neither he that loveth not his brother.

Once I got to carry a "lamb" in intercessory prayer, for weeks. Someone desperately wanting to die. As soon as that person turned to God for help, I was released. If Jesus let's you carry a lamb you will never be the same person. Sheep, lamb, goat?

Yes why did God punish her ??? I thought he told us to stay with our people ??? Like he told Samson ???? I have always believed that !

It is "the holy trinity, which is, god the father, god (jesus)the son, and god the holy ghost.

these three are called the holy trinity. god's throne, the kingdom of god.

I'll be 77 this July, and this was one of my 'go to' scriptures for years in my early Born Again life. It is refreshing to see/read it again as a reminder that God is still "the same yesterday, today & forever"! Amen?! Amen!

Kol Tov i.e. be well

Hello Deason,

I think the sin we repent of is the sin nature we are born with. It's not just the sin of unbelief, but all sin that we must repent of. I do think the demons both know of Jesus and know who He is. They know and believe He is the Savior of the world, they just won't submit to Him. They also know about His second coming. So they believe. The demons in Matthew Chapter 8 knew Him. They gave a perfect confession of who Jesus is. So yes, I would say they know Him.

I am just curious, have you received Christ, and have you been born of His Spirit? If so, that would be good enough for me, and I would say praise the Lord for that!

Hi Jesse, is your position that Christians never commit blasphemy of the holy spirit? or that they are incapable to? or they don't have the freewill to?

The Bible says even angels in heaven sinned, because they too have freewill in heaven. Humans have the same freewill, and Christians have the same freewill, do they not? Unfortunately some Christians have turned to evil and denounced faith in Jesus and committed blasphemy of the holy spirit, do you recognize this? Judas did that.

What is your reason for living life as a Christian or trying to be obedient to Jesus, if it has nothing to do with going to heaven?

Hebrews 10:26 You said doesn't refer to salvation, except it does. Have you read the whole chapter? How do you feel about James 2:17-26 or John 14:15, or Luke 12:9?

Many verses say Christians are to be obedient, but are you saying obedience or transforming isn't needed to enter heaven? Do you think there's no downside to Christians following the world of sin? Romans 12:2

>If it weren't, then the work at the Cross was defective & God's Eternal & Perfect Plan was not well thought through.

Not well thought through? Just because a Christian still has freewill to sin, and just because some Christians do in fact commit blasphemy and just because God doesn't forgive you for it doesn't mean God's plan isn't well thought through or imperfect. Where does your criteria of what is 'not well thought through' come from?

The Bible is full of verses warning people to avoid sin. All the parables are warnings. Most people will go to hell whether people like it or not, whether PC or not. Sharing the gospel is to seek and save the lost. If Christians can never do any wrong, why did Jesus keep warning them to obey. What is the point of even trying if everyone is saved? So, a Christian can sin as much as they want- is that your belief? Is that what Jesus says in the Bible or did he actually say the opposite?

Lola,

I would take both verses to be literal. Verse 10 is telling us that when the Lord does come and bring judgement, it's going to be a surprise to the non-believers. He will come like a "Thief in the night." But it won't be a surprise for us. Paul says in 1 Thessalonians Chapter 5 Verses 4 and 5, "But you brethren are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief."

And Verse 12 is showing the consciousness of believers, conscious that he's coming at any moment. The "day of God" is His day of judgement. So the remainder of the verse should be taken to be literal judgement.

But Paul goes on to say in 1 Thessalonians 5:9, "For God has not appointed us to wrath, that is, judgment, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. God hasn't appointed us to be judged, but rather salvation.

Correction: I meant to say God, not God's. Originally, I had those who are trusting in "God's promise." While trying to trim things to fit, I removed the word promise, but missed changing God's to just God.

Adam, let's look at Mark 3:28-30, the unpardonable sin. V.29, Jesus says, But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: He's not talking about Christians. Verse 30 says, Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit. Who are "they?" Not Christians. If you back up to Verse 22, you see who Jesus is giving the warning to. Blaspheming means to express rejection. When the Holy Spirit convicts a person of their sin, and their need of Christ, if they reject the testimony, their sins will not be forgiven. Christians receive the testimony, they don't reject it. Why use Hebrews 10:26? It has nothing to do with losing salvation. You're free to believe that you yourself can lose your own salvation, but you shouldn't be trying to convince those who are trusting in God's that they can lose theirs. Instead of looking for verses that seem to indicate you can lose your salvation, I would try finding the verses that indicate you can't!

In retirement homes elderly cant afford to lose money so they dont marry. Yet, the idea of a group of their peers and an officient for a "joining" ceremony was a good idea. They were joined in an unofficial civic ceremony but in the eyes of God they became man and wife. It was important to them. See people want to have their union recognized by God first and then other peers and family. Marry her in a simple ceremony in front if God and witnesses. Who knows? If you love each other enough to be together that way, you should honor one another with the celebration of commitment through marriage. Good luck and blessings....

I find it difficult feeling that none of us could fulfill what Jesus has told us to do. I believe that is why we need Him. He also told his apostles to kick the dust from their feet when the word wasnt received and to not cast Pearl's b4 swine. These statements seem to be contradictory. Can you explain? What do you feel about this passage?

My grand kids are not saved

There names are Kai, Major,Jarie

And Zack

Come on Bob, we are not in Revelation today in 2020 AD, Revelation comes in effect after the Rapture or the Catching away of the Church. We under the Dispensation of Grace, where God is dispensing grace instead of God giving us sinners what we deserve. This doesnt mean God doesn't Judge, Hebrews 9:27

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

And this virus is caused by men and all others problems in this world is caused by men especially those who have rejected God and his Grace, but rest assured God will Judge when he decides.

Hello Onnye. Go back and read it again but slowly. Mat.1: 16 states that Jacob begat Joseph, meaning Jacob is Joseph's dad and that Joseph is the husband of Mary, who gave birth to Christ ( proof of His humanity). Mat.1:20 states Joseph thou son of David to show Joseph's lineage to the house of David which is the connection to Jesus being the messiah from the house of David. Remember Matthew speaks of the lineage of Jesus which proves that He, Jesus, is of the house of David. I hope this helps.